Official Dark Knight killer thread

[Mr. Gundam]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2018744138_apuscoloradoshooting.html

The police found a Batman mask at his house. Huh.

[bdoughty]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2018744138_apuscoloradoshooting.html

The police found a Batman mask at his house. Huh.

Maybe it was his version of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde.


http://tracking.si.com/2012/07/23/denver-broncos-visit-aurora-colorado-theater-shooting-victims/

Kudos to the players who visited and Peyton for calling and talking to some of the  victims.

[Cormacaroni]

those homicide rates are in my opinion irrelevant, they are contaminated with the fact the the overwhelming vast majority of them are black on black.  keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa.  no matter what reaction you have been conditioned to have since grade school upon hearing something like this it's a simple fact that can't be ignored as coincidence or mere "environment"

i'll just leave this here

you are vile, Drew

[Cormacaroni]

t keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa.  n

Wait, let's get back to this.

Ignoring the part where you're racist and suck at geography, you're also WRONG.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

http://chartsbin.com/view/1454

Highest homicide rate = Honduras.  For countries that have such data, the highest rates are in Central and South America.  South Africa trails at number 10 on that one wiki list.

Of course, people in Latin America are still kinda dark skinned, so your overall point still stands, right, drew?

What am I missing here boogie?

                        '04   '10
North America   6.5   4.7
Europe           5.4   3.5

How is that 3-4x the homicide rate??? Are you talking about a separate stat for gun-only intentional homicide, or all gun-related homicide/manslaughter or some other definition?

[Phoenix Dark]

those homicide rates are in my opinion irrelevant, they are contaminated with the fact the the overwhelming vast majority of them are black on black.  keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa.  no matter what reaction you have been conditioned to have since grade school upon hearing something like this it's a simple fact that can't be ignored as coincidence or mere "environment"

i'll just leave this here

whoops
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-43/10tbl43a.xls
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl03.xls

Also bro, Africa isn't a country. Although it's certainly true crime in Africa is very high, especially Southern Africa.

[Boogie]

t keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa.  n

Wait, let's get back to this.

Ignoring the part where you're racist and suck at geography, you're also WRONG.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

http://chartsbin.com/view/1454

Highest homicide rate = Honduras.  For countries that have such data, the highest rates are in Central and South America.  South Africa trails at number 10 on that one wiki list.

Of course, people in Latin America are still kinda dark skinned, so your overall point still stands, right, drew?

What am I missing here boogie?

                        '04   '10
North America   6.5   4.7
Europe           5.4   3.5

How is that 3-4x the homicide rate??? Are you talking about a separate stat for gun-only intentional homicide, or all gun-related homicide/manslaughter or some other definition?

I would imagine that's because "Europe" in that stat would include those countries that were behind the old iron curtain, which tend to have a higher homicide rate than the rest of Europe.    If Russia is included in that Europe stat, that alone would bump the average way up because their rate is like 12 per 100k.

When I compare the US to other "developed" countries, I mean Western and northern Europe, Canada, Japan and Australia, essentially.  Countries that would have been labelled as "first world countries" back in the day (though obviously that term doesn't quite work in 2012.)

[Brehvolution]

Have video games been blamed yet?

[Fifstar]

t keep in mind that the country that really has the most gun murders (or just murders, plain and simple) is Africa.  n

Wait, let's get back to this.

Ignoring the part where you're racist and suck at geography, you're also WRONG.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

http://chartsbin.com/view/1454

Highest homicide rate = Honduras.  For countries that have such data, the highest rates are in Central and South America.  South Africa trails at number 10 on that one wiki list.

Of course, people in Latin America are still kinda dark skinned, so your overall point still stands, right, drew?

What am I missing here boogie?

                        '04   '10
North America   6.5   4.7
Europe           5.4   3.5

How is that 3-4x the homicide rate??? Are you talking about a separate stat for gun-only intentional homicide, or all gun-related homicide/manslaughter or some other definition?

I would imagine that's because "Europe" in that stat would include those countries that were behind the old iron curtain, which tend to have a higher homicide rate than the rest of Europe.    If Russia is included in that Europe stat, that alone would bump the average way up because their rate is like 12 per 100k.

When I compare the US to other "developed" countries, I mean Western and northern Europe, Canada, Japan and Australia, essentially.  Countries that would have been labelled as "first world countries" back in the day (though obviously that term doesn't quite work in 2012.)

USA 4.8
Finland 2.1
Israel 2.1
Canada 1.6
UK 1.23
Australia 1.16
Ireland 0.96
Italy 0.87
Italy 0.87
Netherlands 0.86
Sweden 0.86
Denmark 0.85
Germany 0.81
Spain 0.72
Norway 0.68
Switzerland 0.66
Austria 0.56
Japan 0.35

Seems like a fair list. Finland also has (or had; they changed it a bit after a couple of killing sprees in the last couple of years) some of the most lax weapon laws in western and northern europe. On the other hand, Switzerland has similar laws and one of the lowest rates.

[Mr. Gundam]

Advisement hearing live on TV right now. Holmes is blinking a ton.

[Boogie]

Advisement hearing live on TV right now. Holmes is blinking a ton.

Man, what a difference from the picture that was first put out.

This here is the look of someone who knows that his life is over.

[Phoenix Dark]

Great heartfelt speech, and the story towards the end is truly a welcome feel good reminder of the enduring human spirit.

In terms of media coverage, I don't think we'll ever see a day where focus is not so voyeuristic and focused entirely on every detail of the killer's life/actions. Media stations just attempt to 1-up each other every second, as "analysts" and watchers attempt to project all their fears and assumptions onto the murderer.

[Van Cruncheon]

anything below the mason-dixon line is effectively the third world, so it's not really fair to compare half of the us to yoorup

[Diunx]

Great heartfelt speech, and the story towards the end is truly a welcome feel good reminder of the enduring human spirit.

In terms of media coverage, I don't think we'll ever see a day where focus is not so voyeuristic and focused entirely on every detail of the killer's life/actions. Media stations just attempt to 1-up each other every second, as "analysts" and watchers attempt to project all their fears and assumptions onto the murderer.

Stop watching as soon as he mentioned the bible, smh.

[Boogie]

Great heartfelt speech, and the story towards the end is truly a welcome feel good reminder of the enduring human spirit.

In terms of media coverage, I don't think we'll ever see a day where focus is not so voyeuristic and focused entirely on every detail of the killer's life/actions. Media stations just attempt to 1-up each other every second, as "analysts" and watchers attempt to project all their fears and assumptions onto the murderer.

Stop watching as soon as he mentioned the bible, smh.

why?

[ManaByte]

[Phoenix Dark]

No way   

Someone is losing their job

[Reb]

It's the july 20th edition, it was already printed by the time this transpired.

But, hey, we're on the internet, it's a ManaBaby post, let's manufacture some OUTRAGEEEEEE!!!!

[Reb]

I hate you ManaByte.

[ManaByte]

The guy apparently financed his plan with a $25k stipend he got from a federal grant that paid for his school tuition.

[Dickie Dee]

I hate you ManaByte.

[Himu]

The guy apparently financed his plan with a $25k stipend he got from a federal grant that paid for his school tuition.

BIG GOVERNMENT CLAIMS ANOTHER CASUALTY

DAMN YOU OBAMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[ManaByte]

Christian Bale visited the victims in the hospital today.

[Phoenix Dark]

I hate on Bale a lot but I gotta salute him today. Great move.

[bdoughty]

Stop watching as soon as he mentioned the bible, smh.

Makes you feel bad for Obama in this case, damned it he mentions it, damned if he doesn't.  Always interesting to watch intolerance from the other side of the isle.

[tehjaybo]

This thread.  Jesus.

[Atramental]

edit: Too soon?

[Diunx]

Stop watching as soon as he mentioned the bible, smh.

Makes you feel bad for Obama in this case, damned it he mentions it, damned if he doesn't.  Always interesting to watch intolerance from the other side of the isle.

Lost tolerance to religious bullshit a long time ago.

Some people on my not so bright country are saying that the dude was dressed as the Joker, smh.

[Phoenix Dark]

Stop watching as soon as he mentioned the bible, smh.

Makes you feel bad for Obama in this case, damned it he mentions it, damned if he doesn't.  Always interesting to watch intolerance from the other side of the isle.

Lost tolerance to religious bullshit a long time ago.

Some people on my not so bright country are saying that the dude was dressed as the Joker, smh.

He was, and he told the cops he was The Joker

[Diunx]

He wasn't dressed as The Joker.

[G The Resurrected]

Saw that Christian Bale visited some of the victims. Kind of shocked that he would do that, especially given his pre-madonna nature. One of the victim's reported that he said he would personally take care of any medical bills that they would have outstanding from the shooting. He also has donated a large portion of money to the already created fund to help the victims, more than what WB has already given.

Some pictures:




Seem's like a pretty upstanding dude

In other new's has anyone been reading about the shooters family history? Most importantly having to do with his father and his research? Very interesting stuff all about how his father worked with DARPA on the creation of new technologies related to communications with the brain. Coincidence? And that the school he was attending in Colorado is a pitri dish of eggheads that tend to get swallowed into DARPA. Hell the school was one of the biggest "DARPA campus'" in recent history until it was "disbanded." I almost wonder if something actually happened to him with the research he was delving into. It could explain a few things possibly. Still not an excuse for what he did though.

Personally I don't know why he didn't have the balls to kill himself. If he wasn't in it for the attention and fame he presumed he would get by doing what he did. An obviously troubled individual, I hope he doesn't get what he wants in the long term.

[Great Rumbler]

Personally I don't know why he didn't have the balls to kill himself. If he wasn't in it for the attention and fame he presumed he would get by doing what he did.

I was reading an article that said at one point he went back to his car after one of his guns jammed and was "surprised" to see police at the theater already. So, maybe his original plan was to eventually kill himself, but the police got there more quickly than he thought they would and was arrested before he could do that. That's just speculation, of course, and we may never know why he did any of what he did.

[TakingBackSunday]

The whole diva outlash that Bale had was pretty overblown if you ask me.  He seemed really tired, frustrated, and to be fair, he was working on a shitty movie.  Still sort of a dicky thing to do, but every other instance of him in the public and when he's around other celebrities, the dude is a funny and humble guy.  Loved his response during Ricky Gervais's shelacking during the Golden Globes; dude was laughing most of the time.

[Diunx]

I too would be lashing out at people if I had to work with some cocksucker named Mcg.

[Great Rumbler]

One of the victims in the James Holmes mass murder spree has lawyered up and plans to file a lawsuit ... because he feels the theater dropped the ball in a very fatal way.

Torrence Brown, Jr. was in Century 16 Theater when Holmes let loose.  One of Brown's best friends, A.J. Boik, was shot in the chest and died.  Brown, who was not physically injured, claims to now suffer from extreme trauma.

Brown has hired attorney Donald Karpel to rep him.  Karpel tells TMZ ... he is targeting 3 defendants.

1.  The theater.  Karpel claims it was negligent for the theater to have an emergency door in the front that was not alarmed or guarded.  It's widely believed Holmes entered the theater with a ticket,  propped the emergency door open from inside, went to his car and returned with guns.

2.  Holmes' doctors.  Karpel says it appears Holmes was on several medications -- prescribed by one or more doctors --  at the time of the shooting and he believes the docs did not properly monitor Holmes.

3.  Warner Bros.  Karpel says "Dark Knight Rises" was particularly violent and Holmes mimicked some of the action.  The attorney says theater goers were helpless because they thought the shooter was part of the movie.  Karpel tells TMZ, "Somebody has to be responsible for the rampant violence that is shown today."

http://www.tmz.com/2012/07/24/james-holmes-lawsuit-shooting/

[Himu]

[Huff]

It was only a matter of time before someone tried to take advantage of this situation

[Vizzys]

so are they gonna say what was written on that note or whatever he sent ahead of the shooting

[Himu]

OVER A MILLION PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. THROUGHOUT ITS TENURE IN THEATRES THIS PAST WEEK, ONLY ONE SHOOTING HAS OCCURRED OUT OF THOUSANDS OF THEATRES COUNTRY AND WORLD WIDE.

LET'S BLAME THE MOVIE.

[Mupepe]

OVER A MILLION PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THE DARK KNIGHT RISES. THROUGHOUT ITS TENURE IN THEATRES THIS PAST WEEK, ONLY ONE SHOOTING HAS OCCURRED OUT OF THOUSANDS OF THEATRES COUNTRY AND WORLD WIDE.

LET'S BLAME THE MOVIE.

Even worse is that Holmes began planning this months in advance and unless he saw a prescreening they've really got no legs to stand on with WB.

[Himu]

During the gun scenes, Holmes decided to go to his car and pick up his stuff because goddamit, the movie made him do it!!!!!

[Himu]

BATMAN MADE ME MASTURBATE BECAUSE MARION COTILLARD IS HOT AS FUCK EVEN IF SHE HAS A HUGE ZIT ON HER FOREHEAD

I killed millions - BILLIONS - of my sperm thinking of her and it's all that movies fault

[Great Rumbler]

Look, I definitely sympathize with this guy and what he went through, but, geez, he didn't even get injured in this whole thing and he's looking to get millions out of the movie theater [for not stationing armed guards at every exit], the shooter's doctors [for not jumping in front of the bullets], and Warner Bros. [for letting the shooter use their time machine]. Here's a thought, maybe you should sue the guy who pulled the trigger?

I hope it's not the case, but this guy that's suing really comes across as having dollar signs in his eyes and something like this coming out less than a week after the shooting is just shameful.

[Himu]

What exactly HAS Holmes been through?

[Huff]

He probably has some friend or family member that is a lawyer saying he can get all of them to settle for a certain amount.

[Himu]

my best friend who probably really wasn't my best friend was murdered and now i need to make money off of that fact

[Joe Molotov]

In other new's has anyone been reading about the shooters family history? Most importantly having to do with his father and his research? Very interesting stuff all about how his father worked with DARPA on the creation of new technologies related to communications with the brain. Coincidence? And that the school he was attending in Colorado is a pitri dish of eggheads that tend to get swallowed into DARPA. Hell the school was one of the biggest "DARPA campus'" in recent history until it was "disbanded." I almost wonder if something actually happened to him with the research he was delving into. It could explain a few things possibly. Still not an excuse for what he did though.

This one's already sending conspiracy theorists into a feeding frenzy, connecting the dots from Neuroscience to DARPA to MKULTRA.

[TakingBackSunday]

someone get bebpo the fuck in here to defend lawyers

[Cormacaroni]

I'd be pretty surprised if he was anything other than another lonely, frustrated beta male angry at society 'cause he can't get a girlfriend/status and generally thinks he deserves a lot more than he got. What has emerged so far?

[Joe Molotov]

I'd be pretty surprised if he was anything other than another lonely, frustrated beta male angry at society 'cause he can't get a girlfriend/status and generally thinks he deserves a lot more than he got. What has emerged so far?

So far just that he was brainwashed by Obama to enable the UN to confiscate all our guns.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I'd be pretty surprised if he was anything other than another lonely, frustrated beta male angry at society 'cause he can't get a girlfriend/status and generally thinks he deserves a lot more than he got. What has emerged so far?

He sounds like your standard PAFC (Psychopathic Average Frustrated Chump) who spends too much time working on their gun kino and not enough learning to interpret IOI (Indicators of Insanity).

[Cormacaroni]

I saw a theory that spree killers were all the fault of the Sexual Revolution

I mean, there is likely a tiny grain of truth in there, but wrapped up in a giant ball of misogyny and Alpha Male posturing. It goes like this:

- Sexual Revolution happens (contraception, free love), leading to;
- Prolonged single years, postponement of / general decline on marriage;
- Tiger-blood havin' alphas drinkin' all the milkshake, women being SHAMEFUL SLUTS, beta males gettin' no milkshake
- Beta males with no prospect of mating going full psycho

So yeah, all the fault of those goddamn hippies and Kesha

[Mr. Gundam]

But I agree with the doctor part. These fucking doctors prescribe meds like candy.

I don't see how a doctor doing their job as outlined by the APA should be culpable for a patient going out and shooting up a theatre.  People are (in my opinion as well) generally overmedicated for psychological disorders, but there are millions of overmedicated people out there *not* shooting people.  Which makes sense, as overmedication *generally* leads to lethargy, not explosions.  It's *under*-medication with particular disorders that can lead to the boomy-boom.

AMA, not APA. Psychiatrists are medical doctors and can prescribe medications. Psychologists (APA) can't... yet. Well, they can in Louisiana and New Mexico, but that's it.

[G The Resurrected]

In other new's has anyone been reading about the shooters family history? Most importantly having to do with his father and his research? Very interesting stuff all about how his father worked with DARPA on the creation of new technologies related to communications with the brain. Coincidence? And that the school he was attending in Colorado is a pitri dish of eggheads that tend to get swallowed into DARPA. Hell the school was one of the biggest "DARPA campus'" in recent history until it was "disbanded." I almost wonder if something actually happened to him with the research he was delving into. It could explain a few things possibly. Still not an excuse for what he did though.

This one's already sending conspiracy theorists into a feeding frenzy, connecting the dots from Neuroscience to DARPA to MKULTRA.

Yeah its a stretch but you never know. It is a bit interesting still none the less.

[Huff]

Can you clarify on what the doctors did or didn't do to be partially to blame?

[pickle]

But I agree with the doctor part. These fucking doctors prescribe meds like candy.

I don't see how a doctor doing their job as outlined by the APA should be culpable for a patient going out and shooting up a theatre.  People are (in my opinion as well) generally overmedicated for psychological disorders, but there are millions of overmedicated people out there *not* shooting people.  Which makes sense, as overmedication *generally* leads to lethargy, not explosions.  It's *under*-medication with particular disorders that can lead to the boomy-boom.

AMA, not APA. Psychiatrists are medical doctors and can prescribe medications. Psychologists (APA) can't... yet. Well, they can in Louisiana and New Mexico, but that's it.

To be fair APA also stands for American Psychiatric Association. Although the fact that both organisations have the same acronym can make things very confusing.

[ManaByte]

Dane Cook, WTF

Dane Cook is using the Colorado shooting tragedy as material for his standup act. Last night, Cook took the stage at the Laugh Factory on Sunset Blvd. and began to talk about "Dark Knight Rises." In footage, obtained by DailyCaller.com, Cook can be heard saying ... "So I heard that the guy came into the theater about 25 minutes into the movie ... And I don’t know if you’ve seen the movie, but the movie is pretty much a piece of crap ... yeah, spoiler alert.”Cook continued ... “I know that if none of that would have happened, pretty sure that somebody in that theater, about 25 minutes in, realizing it was a piece of crap, was probably like ‘ugh f*cking shoot me.’”A bunch of people in the crowd laughed ... some people groaned. For the record, the shooting occurred exactly one week ago ... 12 people were killed and 58 were injured with many people still hospitalized.

[Phoenix Dark]

Is this him trying to be edgy or some shit, what the fuck

[Joe Molotov]

I wonder what the audience is thinking 25 minutes into a Dane Cook routine.

[Eel O'Brian]

I don't really think anything's off-limits as far as comedy goes, I just think that joke sucks.

Also this dude is apparently doing some sort of fake amnesia routine in jail now. Kill this asswipe, already.

[Verdigris Murder]

It's always really interesting the way certain phrases or words do the rounds, 'false flag' is a tasty treat, 'perfect' was too.

Also, wtf at the news of another attempted assassination of Hilary R Clinton in Israel being suppressed.