SHENMUE FANS - let's kill ourselves, all five of us

[Himu]

Yes. I liked Dreamcast and its fighting games and Sonic Adventure (surprisingly, at the time), but the majority of my friend circle was excited for ps2. Only one or two were excited about Shenmue. Everyone else was excited about fucking Tekken Tag Tournament and those Metal Gear Solid 2 pics. No one gave one shit about dreamcast aside from Mups, who was playing Phantasy Star Online.

Final Fantasy IX came out in 2000, and psx had an amazing summer in 2000. By 2001, no one cared about Dreamcast.

It's a shame, because growing up on Sega, I would have bought one in a heartbeat if Sega hadn't fucked up Saturn. Looked like I was right too, with Dreamcast only last two years before it was killed. Between Saturn, 32x, Nomad;etc. I had grown used to Sega hardware just flat out failing and being killed too soon, even as a snot-nosed kid. Fool me once;etc.

In hindsight, it was foolish to put Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Orta, and Shenmue II on Xbox. They should have gone to ps2.

[bork]

On the flip side of that, I played the shit out of my Dreamcast until it was completely dead in 2001...it had a shitty (Japanese) launch, but things started getting a bit better by Spring 1999.  The PS2 in comparison was awful for most of its first year (again, going by the Japanese release).  It had next to nothing worth playing and i used it mainly for PSOne games.  I think the first PS2 I really went crazy for was SSX, then Onimusha in early 2000.  I still liked the DC way, way more than the PS2 during 2000, too.

[Himu]

Ps2 sucked in its first year, but psx was still kicking if only by a thread. When Onimusha dropped, I started to get mad jelly and my friend would bring his over. But by fall 2001, ps2 was amazing. I got one for Christmas. So really, that's just a slow year and we Sony fans had the psx to keep us tethered to the Sony base. I still really liked Dreamcast any time I played one, though.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

http://www.goodcowfilms.com/farm/basement/ga-archive/sega-dc-sales-03-04-2003.htm

I've posted this before but here's a thread with NPD data for Dreamcast sales.  The Dreamcast, hardware and software, sold like crap, especially after 1999.

Oh and Shenmue wasn't hyped as a PS2 killer, it was supposed to be the game that would shut the critics up who said that the Dreamcast could never touch PlayStation 2.  It was supposed to be the game that proved Sega and the Dreamcast could hold its own against the PS2.

As a poor kid, I had a lot of fun with the Dreamcast post cancellation when every retailer was dumping their Dreamcast wares for little or nothing.  Then my Dreamcast crapped out early 2002, I said "fuck it" and got a PS2.  The Dreamcast was the last console to really get me hyped up.

[Himu]

The ps2 was my most hyped console. Probably the last in that manner, at least.

In fact, I was really angry at Sony for fucking PS3 because I really wanted it to work out. 360 I was looking forward to, but not ps2-level of hype. Wii had me hyped, but mostly out of interest because it was something new.

It really sucks that those days are over. I'm not looking forward to ps4 or 720 at all and don't give a fuck about WiiU. Meanwhile, back before ps2 dropped I followed every piece of news like a hawk and marveled at every new screen shot.

[bork]

I have no hype for Wii U because I a) don't care about tablet controls and b) already own a PS3 and 360.  There's nothing to get hyped up over for the actual next-gen consoles yet anyway.

Oh and Shenmue wasn't hyped as a PS2 killer, it was supposed to be the game that would shut the critics up who said that the Dreamcast could never touch PlayStation 2.  It was supposed to be the game that proved Sega and the Dreamcast could hold its own against the PS2.

  But plenty of games already did that.  I remember the big one was comparing Soul Calibur to Tekken Tag Tournament.  SC looked and animated better (which really has nothing to do with the hardware so much as it did SC just being a better-animated game), plus the Dc had the visual advantage with the VGA box.  Nice n' clean.

[Himu]

Back to Mue.

From the Dojo, Shenmue in 1080p:



















Certain textures don't look too hot but other than that...I like it.

[Joe Molotov]

That looks gross, Himu. And Ryo looks like he's 7 feet tall.

[Himu]

It's the higher res, I think. Ryo is actually about the same height as the soda machine in standard res. I wouldn't say it looks gross. Some of the textures are really blah though. The guilin shot is awesome.

[Positive Touch]

i forgot why this thread was created, and when i went back and checked i relived many lols

[recursivelyenumerable]

yeah ... most old 3D games kinda need the lower res to obscure how simple the models & textures are. though there are some games that have extra detail that's lost on lower res and benefit from being uprezzed (FF9, FF12).

[Himu]

Eh, I think Shenmue Passport models are amazing.



And Shenmue 1+2 look great uprezzed. Certainly better than the FF9.