Kentucky Bore, explain yourselves

[Human Snorenado]

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120825/NEWS0103/308260017/Another-creation-science-attraction-plans-N-Ky-home

I mean really.

[Eric P]

i dunno

i'd blame new jersey for that one

[Joe Molotov]

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20120825/NEWS0103/308260017/Another-creation-science-attraction-plans-N-Ky-home

I mean really.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creationist_museum#United_States

I've been to one of these. 

[archnemesis]

It makes perfect sense if you think about it.

[Brehvolution]

God wrote the bible

[Mr. Gundam]

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That makes my head hurt.

[bork]

It really does make my head spin when I think that people can still believe in stuff like this in the year 2012.

[Stoney Mason]

It really does make my head spin when I think that people can still believe in stuff like this in the year 2012.

Welcome to the South. Where it's always 1836.

[bork]

Tell me about it- I live in Georgia.   

[huckleberry]

These stupid fucking places have so little to do with Kentucky.  The locations have more to do with economic interests than anything else.

[Momo]

God put dinosaur bones in the ground to test our faith

[T234]

These stupid fucking places have so little to do with Kentucky.  The locations have more to do with economic interests than anything else.

Yep. There are quite a few people in KY who don't give a shit about religion one way or another. Myself being one.

[brawndolicious]

It sounds more plausible that the bible is a hoax designed to test who is a good scientist/moral person and who isn't.

[Mr. Gundam]

If God wrote the Bible wouldn't he also then make sure everyone knew it from the moment they were born?

Whether you agree or not, faith is a pretty amazing thing.

[Himu]

If God wrote the Bible wouldn't he also then make sure everyone knew it from the moment they were born?

maybe he prefers people raised in christian nations and not those heretical places like asia

[brawndolicious]

If God wrote the Bible wouldn't he also then make sure everyone knew it from the moment they were born?

Whether you agree or not, faith is a pretty amazing thing.

Yeah but about 80% of the world is believing the wrong thing. It seems easier to believe that if there is a god, he did not actually tell us (yet) what to believe.

[Himu]

or that if he exists he does not give a fuck about our planet and especially humans so why bother worrying about it anyways

or that he did exist once and is now dead

or that he never existed and is merely a concoction of the human psyche

[Human Snorenado]

If God wrote the Bible wouldn't he also then make sure everyone knew it from the moment they were born?

Whether you agree or not, faith is a pretty amazing thing.

Not really.  It kind of indicates a failure to think critically in my opinion.

There are three primary ways of looking at things in the world- Believing, Knowing and Thinking.  Guess who the dumbest motherfuckers are.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

We should be taxing churches and other religious organizations.  That would definitely cut down if not eliminate freak establishments like this.

[Groogrux]

Meh.  Places like this don't reflect how all of us feel about or act out our faith.  At the end of the day, some Christians/Catholics/Jews/Muslims/Atheists are just like everyone else:  they're out to prove everyone else wrong and they're willing to make an ass of themselves and hurt other people to do it (see: this thread and any other thread posted about religion).

Seeing as how there is nothing written in the bible about dinosaurs (well, there is one very vague, short passage that refers to scaly creatures), I think it's safe to say that these people are wrong and probably know it.  They're just out to build their agenda.

[Stoney Mason]

Meh.  Places like this don't reflect how all of us feel about or act out our faith.  At the end of the day, some Christians/Catholics/Jews/Muslims/Atheists are just like everyone else:  they're out to prove everyone else wrong and they're willing to make an ass of themselves and hurt other people to do it (see: this thread and any other thread posted about religion).

Seeing as how there is nothing written in the bible about dinosaurs (well, there is one very vague, short passage that refers to scaly creatures), I think it's safe to say that these people are wrong and probably know it.  They're just out to build their agenda.

The problem is that according to polling its not a tiny crazy minority of people who have somewhat similar views.

In U.S., 46% Hold Creationist View of Human Origins
Highly religious Americans most likely to believe in creationism

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/Hold-Creationist-View-Human-Origins.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Religion

So while its easy to mock people like this on a message board, the more scary idea is how many people actually believe this shit or somewhat similar stuff.

[archnemesis]

Job 40:15-24 is commonly used by creationists as a description of dinosaurs.

15 “Look at Behemoth,
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins,
    what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
    its limbs like rods of iron.
19 It ranks first among the works of God,
    yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
20 The hills bring it their produce,
    and all the wild animals play nearby.
21 Under the lotus plants it lies,
    hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22 The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
    the poplars by the stream surround it.
23 A raging river does not alarm it;
    it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.
24 Can anyone capture it by the eyes,
    or trap it and pierce its nose?

(New International Version)

[Brehvolution]

Dinosaurs or

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[Himu]

We should be taxing churches and other religious organizations.  That would definitely cut down if not eliminate freak establishments like this.

Ya know, I dunno about taxing churches or religious organizations.

When you do that, they really DO have a claim, politically, because they're being taxed.

Also, my own old church is a dying breed. If they were taxed, they'd probably go under. Not all churches are big, rich, megachurches.

[demi]

I guess they should meet and have sermons for free then!

[Yeti]

Job 40:15-24 is commonly used by creationists as a description of dinosaurs.

15 “Look at Behemoth,
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins,
    what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
    its limbs like rods of iron.
19 It ranks first among the works of God,
    yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
20 The hills bring it their produce,
    and all the wild animals play nearby.
21 Under the lotus plants it lies,
    hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22 The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
    the poplars by the stream surround it.
23 A raging river does not alarm it;
    it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.
24 Can anyone capture it by the eyes,
    or trap it and pierce its nose?

(New International Version)

Tubes of bronze and rods of irons didn't exist when dinosaurs were around though? 

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm not convinced the Behemoth was a dinosaur. IIRC that passage also references the Leviathan, which most Christians don't believe was a dinosaur; the bible suggests it's a singular creature that will be destroyed in the end times. If the Behemoth is not just a mammoth or something, it's more likely another singular creature than one of many creatures

[Great Rumbler]

Job 40:15-24 is commonly used by creationists as a description of dinosaurs.

15 “Look at Behemoth,
    which I made along with you
    and which feeds on grass like an ox.
16 What strength it has in its loins,
    what power in the muscles of its belly!
17 Its tail sways like a cedar;
    the sinews of its thighs are close-knit.
18 Its bones are tubes of bronze,
    its limbs like rods of iron.
19 It ranks first among the works of God,
    yet its Maker can approach it with his sword.
20 The hills bring it their produce,
    and all the wild animals play nearby.
21 Under the lotus plants it lies,
    hidden among the reeds in the marsh.
22 The lotuses conceal it in their shadow;
    the poplars by the stream surround it.
23 A raging river does not alarm it;
    it is secure, though the Jordan should surge against its mouth.
24 Can anyone capture it by the eyes,
    or trap it and pierce its nose?

(New International Version)

Tubes of bronze and rods of irons didn't exist when dinosaurs were around though? 

Robot dinosaurs. Biblical times were pretty crazy, yo.

[huckleberry]

Fun (or Ironic) Fact :  these creation themed ignorance places are about a 20 minute drive from the best named state park ever - Big Bone Lick. Bone Lick has the honor of being the place considered to be the start of American paleontology.
 Fucking creationists.

[Mr. Gundam]

I'm not convinced the Behemoth was a dinosaur. IIRC that passage also references the Leviathan, which most Christians don't believe was a dinosaur; the bible suggests it's a singular creature that will be destroyed in the end times. If the Behemoth is not just a mammoth or something, it's more likely another singular creature than one of many creatures

Elder gods, eh?

Cthulu will rise again.

[Steve Youngblood]

The problem is that according to polling its not a tiny crazy minority of people who have somewhat similar views.

In U.S., 46% Hold Creationist View of Human Origins
Highly religious Americans most likely to believe in creationism

http://www.gallup.com/poll/155003/Hold-Creationist-View-Human-Origins.aspx?utm_source=alert&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=syndication&utm_content=morelink&utm_term=Religion

So while its easy to mock people like this on a message board, the more scary idea is how many people actually believe this shit or somewhat similar stuff.

Before I actually read the link, I was going to just assume that the high figure represented belief in God's non-specific role in the process. However, the actual content of the article painted a more disconcerting picture.

[Groogrux]

Not that I'm trying to brush it all away, because I think they're fucking nuts.  But does it really matter what these people believe?  They're not going to teach that in public schools, and nobody is forcing people to go to these museums. 

If they start picketing in my area (or anyone else's) and telling us why God hates us, then I'll have a reason to care.

[Himu]

Except that people ARE trying to teach creationism in public schools.

[Stoney Mason]

Not that I'm trying to brush it all away, because I think they're fucking nuts.  But does it really matter what these people believe?  They're not going to teach that in public schools, and nobody is forcing people to go to these museums. 

If they start picketing in my area (or anyone else's) and telling us why God hates us, then I'll have a reason to care.

It matters what people believe. For very big and very small reasons. I'm not going to harp on about religion as that can get tiresome but what people believe reflects the values they put into place in society with their laws, their education, etc.

[Human Snorenado]

We all have to live together.  Whether it be in this world, country, state or town, we're all co-citizens to one extent or another.  So yeah, I find stupidity and ignorance offensive and detrimental wherever it's happening.

[treythemovie]

I'm dating a Kentucky homegrown girl. According to her "Everyone outside of Louisville and Lexington is inbred and have few brain cells left, and even Louisville is pretty janky. But hey, at least its not Tennessee"

[brawndolicious]

Not that I'm trying to brush it all away, because I think they're fucking nuts.  But does it really matter what these people believe?  They're not going to teach that in public schools, and nobody is forcing people to go to these museums. 

If they start picketing in my area (or anyone else's) and telling us why God hates us, then I'll have a reason to care.

I'm in the liberal Bay Area but in 7th grade, this one kid who sat next to me in science class started pestering me about believing evolution (he was a Christian). I told him I think it makes sense because there's all the fossils and I guess God did something too with making Adam/Eve but whatever, bear in mind that I was a highly religious Muslim at the time but I still hadn't given much thought into finding an excuse for how Adam & Eve existed. Eventually he keeps telling me I'm wrong and I say okayokayokay to get him off my back.

The next day, this kid from Kentucky who sits in front of me turned around asked me what the fuck was wrong with that guy?

Now I get it, a lot of you are really religious and grow up in the hotbed of creationism-pollution but are still never going to drink that kool-aid. However, I don't like the idea of people trying to prosletize that shit. For science of all things, the way to prove everything before you believe it is so goddamn important. What bothers me isn't that people believe creationism, it's that they reject the scientific method.

Most religious folks at least try to come up with some way for both evolution and the Adam/Eve story to be true. Because they value the motherfuckin' science.

[Himu]

I don't get why they're so anti-evolution if even the pope said that evolution should not be contested and is a truth observed in nature?

[Groogrux]

Except that people ARE trying to teach creationism in public schools.

I'm guessing in the deep south.  Has any public school actually succeeded in passing this though?  Seems to me that separation of church and state would prevent this simply due to the fact that this idea is all based on (one) God's plan.  I really don't know of any public schools that don't at least have one person of a different belief system.  I would think the ACLU would put a stop to this well before it ever got underway.

We all have to live together.  Whether it be in this world, country, state or town, we're all co-citizens to one extent or another.  So yeah, I find stupidity and ignorance offensive and detrimental wherever it's happening.

Ignorance, yes.  Stupidity, maybe not.  I know a lot of good people that believe this way or some form of it that I wouldn't consider to be detrimental to society.  There are quite a few people that believe Marxist-based communism is good idea or that marijuana should be legalized that aren't detrimental to society.  They don't share the popular vote with many others, but that doesn't make them a threat to anyone.

I'm dating a Kentucky homegrown girl. According to her "Everyone outside of Louisville and Lexington is inbred and have few brain cells left, and even Louisville is pretty janky. But hey, at least its not Tennessee"

Mostly true. I'm an exception because I'm a transplant from Dayton.  Thor is an open-minded and intelligent guy.  Jaybo lives in a really liberal town now that most other Kentuckians shy away from because they don't want to get the free-thinking cooties.  Bloodwake moved out of the state altogether.

 

Most religious folks at least try to come up with some way for both evolution and the Adam/Eve story to be true. Because they value the motherfuckin' science.

This partly describes me.  I think Adam and Eve were borderline plausible but probably just told as a moral story.  Most other stuff from the OT in the Bible can be found in a lot of older monotheistic religions so it leads me to believe that a lot of them are parables mixed in with some history.

[Huff]

I don't get why they're so anti-evolution if even the pope said that evolution should not be contested and is a truth observed in nature?

catholics are actually very accepting of science in my experience and are most likely to use the bible as allegory and not as facts

[Human Snorenado]

I don't get why they're so anti-evolution if even the pope said that evolution should not be contested and is a truth observed in nature?

catholics are actually very accepting of science in my experience and are most likely to use the bible as allegory and not as facts

On the flipside, there's the whole boyfucking thing.

[Huff]

I don't get why they're so anti-evolution if even the pope said that evolution should not be contested and is a truth observed in nature?

catholics are actually very accepting of science in my experience and are most likely to use the bible as allegory and not as facts

On the flipside, there's the whole boyfucking thing.

cant be perfect

[chronovore]

I don't get why they're so anti-evolution if even the pope said that evolution should not be contested and is a truth observed in nature?

Rabid, defensive, intellectual laziness.