Author Topic: Anyone know any good tips for changing sleeping patterns? (Read 2365 times)

The Sceneman · « **on:** October 02, 2012, 11:48:05 AM »

I'm nocturnal at the moment and want to fix this and have more regular waking hours and basically get more out of my days.

It's 5am now and I'm wide awake in bed after trying to sleep for a couple of hours. I'm considering just getting up, making some coffee and trying to get some work done. I have around 4-5 hours work I need to get through and I figure I can just blob out and play games for the rest of the day.

Don't know if this is a better idea than trying to sleep. The work absolutely has to be done tomorrow and I have social engagements from 5-10pm. It could be another couple of hours before I get to sleep thus I'd wake up in the afternoon and not have time to get anything done.

Of course, thinking and worrying about all this is keeping me up also.

Hmmm

archnemesis · « **Reply #1 on:** October 02, 2012, 11:51:09 AM »

Get up at 6 am. Work hard all day. Fall asleep exhausted.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #2 on:** October 02, 2012, 11:53:01 AM »

that was my idea, as I'm basically not working hard/long enough to tire myself out properly.

Fuck it I'm getting up

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #3 on:** October 02, 2012, 11:54:02 AM »

fuck man, i'm lucky to get more than 5 hours anymore.

archnemesis · « **Reply #4 on:** October 02, 2012, 12:04:04 PM »

Physical exercise is also a good way to improve your sleeping patterns.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #5 on:** October 02, 2012, 12:10:46 PM »

Sweet well I'm feeling perky now, got my pot 'o joe right here. Lets do this

Momo · « **Reply #6 on:** October 02, 2012, 12:16:46 PM »

fap every night at 11:30
you will be asleep by 11:32

Tasty · « **Reply #7 on:** October 02, 2012, 12:36:01 PM »

Stay up later and later. Eventually it'll loop back around. (I've done this several times.)

The Sceneman · « **Reply #8 on:** October 02, 2012, 01:55:43 PM »

nailing my work and got to watch the sun come up

Brehvolution · « **Reply #9 on:** October 02, 2012, 04:07:57 PM »

Start drinking beer about 7 pm. Go to bed around 11:30pm. Wake up at 7am rested and refreshed.

brob · « **Reply #10 on:** October 02, 2012, 04:31:49 PM »

I'm with zero hero. just remember to get your dick sucked and drink some water before you sleep.

Huff · « **Reply #11 on:** October 02, 2012, 04:37:54 PM »

chug a bottle of nyquil and try to finish jacking off before falling asleep

brawndolicious · « **Reply #12 on:** October 02, 2012, 06:13:55 PM »

Just stay up through the night and then go to sleep at the right time the next night. The last 6 or so hours are the hardest, try not to be home during that time so you don't doze off on the couch or something.

I actually missed a class for the first time in forever because I overslept so hopefully my advice works.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #13 on:** October 02, 2012, 09:08:27 PM »

2pm now and I'm just about ready to cabb out, lol. Almost done with the work I needed to do so I'm stoked. Also managed to slip in a couple of games of FTL to get my blood all hot and crazy

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=cabb+out

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #14 on:** October 02, 2012, 10:01:00 PM »

Make sure you get outside and see the sun - this helps fix your circadian rhythms apparently. Also, heavy deadlifts and squats followed by a carb-heavy meal will make you sleep like a baby

pilonv1 · « **Reply #15 on:** October 02, 2012, 11:43:10 PM »

Get up early consistently, whether you need to or not. And as above, if you exercise and eat well your body will tell you when its tired.

chronovore · « **Reply #16 on:** October 03, 2012, 03:45:44 AM »

When I travel and need to adjust to the new timezone, I sleep with the drapes open. Sunrise does a pretty good job of getting through my eyelids and starting the waking process. Get up early enough, and that nocturnal stuff will FLEE.

Also, apparently Valerian Root will knock yo' ass out, if you're having trouble getting to sleep.

Robo · « **Reply #17 on:** October 03, 2012, 10:36:22 AM »

Melatonin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin#Circadian_rhythm_disorders

pilonv1 · « **Reply #18 on:** October 03, 2012, 09:22:59 PM »

Quote from: chronovore on October 03, 2012, 03:45:44 AM

Also, apparently Valerian Root will knock yo' ass out, if you're having trouble getting to sleep.

I tried that, I think it works more as a placebo. Didn't notice improvement long term.

chronovore · « **Reply #19 on:** October 04, 2012, 02:08:44 AM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on October 03, 2012, 09:22:59 PM

Quote from: chronovore on October 03, 2012, 03:45:44 AM
Also, apparently Valerian Root will knock yo' ass out, if you're having trouble getting to sleep.

I tried that, I think it works more as a placebo. Didn't notice improvement long term.

I peeked at the wikipedia page on it last week (which means "IT'S A FACT"

) which stated it is clinically proven. I've never tried it. Melatonin just makes me spacey.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #20 on:** October 04, 2012, 02:14:49 AM »

super-obvious but since we seem to be getting into crazy town with the herbal stuff: stop drinking, get off pills, sleep in a blacked out room or use a blindfold

pilonv1 · « **Reply #21 on:** October 04, 2012, 02:36:10 AM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on October 04, 2012, 02:14:49 AM

super-obvious but since we seem to be getting into crazy town with the herbal stuff: stop drinking, get off pills, sleep in a blacked out room or use a blindfold

make sure it's comfortable to sleep too, not hot/cold, just cool.

Fifstar · « **Reply #22 on:** October 04, 2012, 03:59:41 AM »

Listen to your body. Sleepyness comes and goes, if you're getting tired you might only have some time to easily fall asleep, after that you're body cycle goes up again for some time until you can quickly fall asleep.

Regular sleeping patterns also help, as does getting of the pc/tv.

The Sceneman · « **Reply #23 on:** October 04, 2012, 04:35:24 AM »

thanks for all the advice!

update: so after staying up all night I had a nap from 3-5pm as I couldn't physically keep my eyes open anymore. I then hit the pub quiz with the bros and had a few beers and shit, then didn't get to sleep till 4am :/

Got up at 9am this morning and ran some errands and had a meeting and shit, but I was walking around in the rain for an hour so I was cold and tired when I got home, so NAP TIME again

I have to be more disciplined about naps and stuff.

Still, I have gotten heaps done in the past couple of days and got some hysterical socialising in, so it's a win.

In regards to herbal shit, chamomile tea I find is pretty good to chill out and relax with. Better get onto that routine

Fifstar · « **Reply #24 on:** October 04, 2012, 04:46:50 AM »

Well, if you get shit done it ain't that bad is it, or at least you can work around it.

Otherwise, as you mentioned yourself naps aren't a good idea until you have a proper sleeping pattern established. Another thing that apparently is pretty bad for sleeping are those ten minute naps (like when you're watching tv and fall alspeep for a short period of time), those often will make it tough to fall asleep.

Dickie Dee · « **Reply #25 on:** October 04, 2012, 03:00:26 PM »

PILLLLLZZZ

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #26 on:** October 07, 2012, 05:32:58 PM »

When was the sceneman hit by a bus?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #27 on:** October 07, 2012, 07:13:37 PM »

Daylight Savings kicked in yesterday, I'm tired as all fuck this morning. Amazing what getting up one hour earlier can do to you.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #28 on:** October 07, 2012, 07:17:02 PM »

I just buy some generic brand sleeping aid once in a while.

Groogrux · « **Reply #29 on:** October 07, 2012, 10:03:14 PM »

About two hours before you're ready to go to bed, turn off most artificial light sources (I.e. TV, PC, tablet, ect). I also remember that Cormac once said to stretch really well before getting in bed and that would make you sleep better. Its worked for me a few times...

EmCeeGrammar · « **Reply #30 on:** October 07, 2012, 10:30:52 PM »

Staying up for like 36 hours until you choose when to go to sleep and therefore your sleep schedule always works for me. By that point you will go to sleep within 5 minutes of allowing yourself to.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #31 on:** October 08, 2012, 01:46:49 AM »

Quote from: Groogrux on October 07, 2012, 10:03:14 PM

About two hours before you're ready to go to bed, turn off most artificial light sources (I.e. TV, PC, tablet, ect). I also remember that Cormac once said to stretch really well before getting in bed and that would make you sleep better. Its worked for me a few times...

Well, general stretching will definitely help but I think I was referring to a specific trick of lengthening the spine which really helped me. I got it from a review of a sleep aid book on Mark Sisson's site originally I think. All you do is lie down, raise up your hips a bit and stretch out your spine. Even just a cm or two of movement takes all this pressure off and really relaxes me. I do it habitually every time I lie down now, without thinking. I also always use a blindfold...I even travel with one. It is annoying when you don't need it when it's dark but it really helps the quality of the last few hours of sleep around dawn when the light starts seeping in.

Groogrux · « **Reply #32 on:** October 08, 2012, 10:59:41 PM »

I don't use a blind-fold or anything like that because I can't stand for anything like that to touch me while I'm sleeping. I keep a heavy blanket over my window though and that really helps, except for when the kid tries to wake me up at 6am and turns all the lights on, or when the cats try to climb the fucking blanket...

drew · « **Reply #33 on:** October 09, 2012, 12:49:46 AM »

xanax.

headwalk · « **Reply #34 on:** October 09, 2012, 01:10:44 AM »

cocaine.

Rusty Shackleford · « **Reply #35 on:** October 09, 2012, 01:39:04 AM »

Quote from: Robo on October 03, 2012, 10:36:22 AM

Melatonin. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melatonin#Circadian_rhythm_disorders

Second the melatonin. Also, if you take enough, it gives you crazy weird dreams. Had to use melatonin last week because it turns out the OTC sleeping pills are Benadryl in disguise and made my sinus infection worse.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #36 on:** October 09, 2012, 01:45:08 AM »

Nothing works for me- I think the best thing I've done was to accept that i'll get to sleep when I am exhausted and will wake up shitty cause my brain is distinguished mentally-challenged

Rusty Shackleford · « **Reply #37 on:** October 09, 2012, 01:49:30 AM »

There's always autoerotic asphyxiation. Nothing like cutting the rope and stumbling off to bed with the best high ever.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #38 on:** October 09, 2012, 01:50:26 AM »

lol- just avoid the point of sleep altogether

Rusty Shackleford · « **Reply #39 on:** October 09, 2012, 01:51:39 AM »

It's like rolling over to sleep after sex -- but without the wet spot!

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #40 on:** October 09, 2012, 02:22:05 AM »

Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on October 09, 2012, 01:49:30 AM

There's always autoerotic asphyxiation. Nothing like cutting the rope and stumbling off to bed with the best high ever.

optimally, position the rope above your bed

Rusty Shackleford · « **Reply #41 on:** October 09, 2012, 02:31:13 AM »

I'm kinda surprised they don't sell something like that already. There are already a brazillion sex swings out there.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #42 on:** October 09, 2012, 02:50:34 AM »

some sort of suicide hammock could work well. Climb up, whack off, automatically slump down into a safe and dreamless, albeit cum-stained, sleep

T234 · « **Reply #43 on:** October 09, 2012, 08:39:48 AM »

Hash. Pakistani Black will put you under, period.

king of the internet · « **Reply #44 on:** October 09, 2012, 09:13:32 AM »

The combination of alcohol and sleeping pills can send me into a deep slumber at pretty much any time of the day. Give it a shot.

Rusty Shackleford · « **Reply #45 on:** October 09, 2012, 07:27:10 PM »

Quote from: king of the internet on October 09, 2012, 09:13:32 AM

The combination of alcohol and sleeping pills can send me into a deep slumber at pretty much any time of the day. Give it a shot.

I want to die in my sleep like Grandpa did. Not screaming like the passengers on the bus.

Akala · « **Reply #46 on:** October 13, 2012, 05:48:27 PM »

I've never actually acclimated to getting up early. Been getting up at 6-6:30 for years, and it's still a struggle.

Fifstar · « **Reply #47 on:** October 13, 2012, 06:17:21 PM »

Quote from: Akala on October 13, 2012, 05:48:27 PM

I've never actually acclimated to getting up early. Been getting up at 6-6:30 for years, and it's still a struggle.

Some people just have a rhytm that goes against 'normal' sleeping times and no matter how long you try to condition yourself to a specific wake up time, you never will as fit as you would be at your natural rhytm.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronotype

chronovore · « **Reply #48 on:** October 13, 2012, 07:38:47 PM »

Dude. Don't try to chronotype me.

;-)

MIMIC · « **Reply #49 on:** October 14, 2012, 12:05:41 AM »

I use sleeping pills (Unisom).

I just take half of one to get me to sleep. A whole one make me way too groggy in the morning (unless I slept for 10 hours or something)

pilonv1 · « **Reply #50 on:** October 14, 2012, 07:36:18 AM »

Quote from: Akala on October 13, 2012, 05:48:27 PM

I've never actually acclimated to getting up early. Been getting up at 6-6:30 for years, and it's still a struggle.

I did it for 6 years at school, was never an issue. Then I went to university and was staying up until 2am in the morning every night and haven't been able to get that sleeping pattern back. My body just always wants to wake up at 9am, not 7.

Eric P · « **Reply #51 on:** October 14, 2012, 09:37:16 PM »

magnesium citrate has been a godsend for me

i take it before bed and i am knocked the fuck out in less than an hour

i used to require sleeping pills to get to sleep. like, literally for years, thank god i was able to break that pattern.

Rusty Shackleford · « **Reply #52 on:** October 14, 2012, 09:42:48 PM »

Quote from: Eric P on October 14, 2012, 09:37:16 PM

magnesium citrate has been a godsend for me

i take it before bed and i am knocked the fuck out in less than an hour

i used to require sleeping pills to get to sleep. like, literally for years, thank god i was able to break that pattern.

Isn't that like Citrusel or something? A laxative?

chronovore · « **Reply #53 on:** October 15, 2012, 05:56:10 PM »

Yeah, I looked it up on der wikipedien and it appears to help you poop. A big poop.

How is it helping you sleep?

Rusty Shackleford · « **Reply #54 on:** October 15, 2012, 05:58:07 PM »

Would have been a hell of a practical joke, though.

Eric P · « **Reply #55 on:** October 15, 2012, 06:19:11 PM »

hey didn't see this thread

it basically draws more water into the lower intestine so that yes, when you poop it's more, but it's not some kind of colon destroyer

chronovore · « **Reply #56 on:** October 15, 2012, 09:55:03 PM »

Quote from: Rusty Shackleford on October 15, 2012, 05:58:07 PM

Would have been a hell of a practical joke, though.

Rusty Shackleford · « **Reply #57 on:** October 15, 2012, 10:05:10 PM »

There's also a "sh*t the bed" joke somewhere in there too.

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Author Topic: Anyone know any good tips for changing sleeping patterns? (Read 2365 times)