Author Topic: The Windows 8 Experience (Read 6826 times)

Joe Molotov · « **on:** October 27, 2012, 05:09:06 PM »

$15 well spent!

archnemesis · « **Reply #1 on:** October 27, 2012, 05:13:19 PM »

I understand that they want a cleaner look, but when you remove error messages and other useful information it's not an improvement.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #2 on:** October 27, 2012, 05:15:59 PM »

I guess I'm not seeing what the problem is here, looks like a standard Windows screen to me.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #3 on:** October 27, 2012, 05:18:16 PM »

Meet the new Windows, same as the old Windows.

MCD · « **Reply #4 on:** October 27, 2012, 05:19:38 PM »

There is an app for that: http://apps.microsoft.com/webpdp/en-US/app/teamviewer-touch/417cca6d-744d-4770-b168-12171f73ed37

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #5 on:** October 27, 2012, 05:22:28 PM »

i just got used to windows 7, fuck off windows 8!

originalz · « **Reply #6 on:** October 27, 2012, 08:43:16 PM »

I get the BSOD immediately on bootup and it restarts my computer in an eternal loop.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #7 on:** October 27, 2012, 10:35:31 PM »

Finally got it to install after spending an hour disabling programs, uninstalling stuff, disconnecting extra disc drive, etc. Now time to bitch about how shitty it is!

Tasty · « **Reply #8 on:** October 27, 2012, 11:15:35 PM »

Shoulda got a Chromebook.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #9 on:** October 27, 2012, 11:26:29 PM »

yeah, think of all the great things you can do with a chromebook, like render html5!

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #10 on:** October 27, 2012, 11:28:29 PM »

Quote from: Andrex on October 27, 2012, 11:15:35 PM

Shoulda got a Chromebook.

If there was a $15 Chromebook, I would have!

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #11 on:** October 27, 2012, 11:29:54 PM »

Oh yeah, also Metro sucks.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #12 on:** October 27, 2012, 11:32:33 PM »

not every grocery chain can be kroger

Tasty · « **Reply #13 on:** October 27, 2012, 11:36:21 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on October 27, 2012, 11:26:29 PM

yeah, think of all the great things you can do with a chromebook, like render html5!

And actually boot up!

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #14 on:** October 27, 2012, 11:41:51 PM »

check out all the great games you can play* on your chromebook

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/app/3-games#category/app/3-games

*view

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #15 on:** October 27, 2012, 11:43:41 PM »

F2P games

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #16 on:** October 27, 2012, 11:45:25 PM »

*can't even run 95% of them on a chromebook

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #17 on:** October 28, 2012, 12:05:55 AM »

I havent run into any issues installing Win8- but some people have. Some people have issues with iOS upgrades- some dont.

demi · « **Reply #18 on:** October 28, 2012, 12:35:01 AM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on October 27, 2012, 11:41:51 PM

check out all the great games you can play* on your chromebook

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/app/3-games#category/app/3-games

*view

https://chrome.google.com/webstore/category/app/3-games#detail/crash-bandicoot/lbglaphjmakdancklcmhepnabflennig

what the fuck?

oh google.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #19 on:** October 28, 2012, 12:40:05 AM »

:windowscry :applecry :sonycry

spoiler (click to show/hide)

BONUS!

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Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #20 on:** October 28, 2012, 12:44:03 AM »

i think QUALITY is definitely L

demi · « **Reply #21 on:** October 28, 2012, 12:52:25 AM »

they must be using a chromebook.

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #22 on:** October 28, 2012, 01:03:51 AM »

Quote from: Green Man on October 28, 2012, 01:01:07 AM

Anyone know how long the W8 for $15 offer lasts?

No one know's how long the signup is gonna last other than the January 2013 date. Personally I don't think they are gonna stop it cause as long as they keep the numbers coming in thats all MS cares about. DO NOT UPGRADE from a Windows 7 install that you've installed on other pc's. The other pc's will no longer work and you'll get the dreaded register this shit or suffer with 4 hour shutdown.

Tasty · « **Reply #23 on:** October 28, 2012, 01:43:50 AM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on October 27, 2012, 11:45:25 PM

*can't even run 95% of them on a chromebook

New Chromebook has Flash if that's what you're getting at, doofus.

No NaCl yet though so Bastion and From Dust are out of the picture. :'( But PNaCl is coming which will add support back in.

Tasty · « **Reply #24 on:** October 28, 2012, 03:59:35 AM »

Verge knows what's up.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #25 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:45:47 AM »

Quote from: Andrex on October 28, 2012, 01:43:50 AM

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on October 27, 2012, 11:45:25 PM
*can't even run 95% of them on a chromebook

New Chromebook has Flash if that's what you're getting at, doofus.

No NaCl yet though so Bastion and From Dust are out of the picture. :'( But PNaCl is coming which will add support back in.

brb, installing battlefield play 4 free on my chro-

oh

pilonv1 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:51:56 AM »

every thread andrex posts in

ends up about google or nintendo

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #27 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:54:37 AM »

brb, gonna use chromebook to watch some scary movies on Netfl-

http://blogs.computerworld.com/laptops/21180/new-samsung-chromebook-netflix

oh

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #28 on:** October 28, 2012, 09:26:59 AM »

Quote from: Andrex on October 28, 2012, 03:59:35 AM

Verge knows what's up.

(Image removed from quote.)

That both the Chromebock and Surface suck. Sounds about right.

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #29 on:** October 28, 2012, 01:59:58 PM »

You know I don't know how it determines which version you end up getting as it didn't give me a choice of x32 or x64. But I had previously a x32 then installed x64 Windows 7 and was able to upgrade to x64 Window's 8 with no issues.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #30 on:** October 28, 2012, 02:01:32 PM »

nobody takes the verge seriously.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #31 on:** October 28, 2012, 03:28:34 PM »

The one thing I think most can agree on is that the Surface hardware gave laptop manufacturers a kick in the pants when it comes to designing tablets that MIGHT just be useful for work- not just the angry birds and youtube.

Tasty · « **Reply #32 on:** October 28, 2012, 03:33:41 PM »

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on October 28, 2012, 07:45:47 AM

Quote from: Andrex on October 28, 2012, 01:43:50 AM
Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on October 27, 2012, 11:45:25 PM
*can't even run 95% of them on a chromebook

New Chromebook has Flash if that's what you're getting at, doofus.

No NaCl yet though so Bastion and From Dust are out of the picture. :'( But PNaCl is coming which will add support back in.

brb, installing battlefield play 4 free on my chro-

oh

Oh you meant the actual games the spam games were trying to crib.

That's uh, pretty dumb. They're obviously spam games.

Quote from: Dr. Feelbad on October 28, 2012, 07:54:37 AM

brb, gonna use chromebook to watch some scary movies on Netfl-

http://blogs.computerworld.com/laptops/21180/new-samsung-chromebook-netflix

oh

Like I said, PNaCl is coming with the next Chrome update yo.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #33 on:** October 28, 2012, 05:11:22 PM »

but see, you told him he should've bought a chromebook

and right now the chromebook can't do shit

"it's coming"

awesome, everyone just wait until it's worth a rat fuck and then...still not buy one

Tasty · « **Reply #34 on:** October 28, 2012, 05:40:13 PM »

It's more limited but it doesn't have the bajillion problems he's documenting in this very thread. Boots up in 8 secs, resumes instantly, updates are automatic.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #35 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:30:01 PM »

surface boots quick, resumes instantly, and updates automatically

MCD · « **Reply #36 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:42:06 PM »

Surface can also get you laid

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #37 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:49:17 PM »

Quote from: MCD on October 28, 2012, 06:42:06 PM

Surface can also get you laid

When you buy one to give to a hooker in lieu of money?

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #38 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:53:13 PM »

http://hal2020.com/2012/10/28/understanding-the-microsoft-surface-a-sort-of-review/

Tasty · « **Reply #39 on:** October 28, 2012, 06:54:55 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on October 28, 2012, 06:30:01 PM

surface boots quick, resumes instantly, and updates automatically

Just make sure you don't flub the install and clean your registry out every week.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #40 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:03:41 PM »

you don't install WINDOWS *RT* you clueless idiot

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #41 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:04:17 PM »

uuuh what andrex?

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #42 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:06:02 PM »

yeah I dunno- whatever. Just read reviews from people you trust on third party sites and dont listen to people with a clear agenda is my advice

Tasty · « **Reply #43 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:09:21 PM »

Quote from: Van Cruncheon on October 28, 2012, 07:03:41 PM

you don't install WINDOWS *RT* you clueless idiot

No duh.

Edit- You said Surface, not RT, so I thought you were including both RT and Pro in that.

Mea culpa.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #44 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:32:29 PM »

ultimately any system that allows full admin access to everything also gives you (and any software you allow to run as admin) the power to fuck up your system beyond recognition or redemption. the whole point of Windows RT and the sandboxed / declarative-install-only Windows Store app model is to provide the peasantry with a safe environment where they can install crap to their heart's content without fucking up their system - with the new System Refresh feature as a safety net - leaving the anything-goes desktop environment to members of the master race who can handle it

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #45 on:** October 28, 2012, 08:57:04 PM »

So system refresh only cleans the Metro part of the OS?

I feel like doing a clean install and was wondering if the refresh options can offer similar results.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #46 on:** October 28, 2012, 09:06:10 PM »

No it's the other way around. System refresh will leave all your Metro apps/settings intact, along with your document libraries, and bulldoze/pave everything else. Other than that it should be "basically" the same as a clean install, as far as fucked up registry settings and startup pollution etc. go, but I'm not sure what caveats there might be to that. There's also System Reset which paves over your Metro stuff too, so it's basically the same as a reinstall.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #47 on:** October 28, 2012, 09:11:52 PM »

Sounds like something worth experimenting. I just need to confirm one thing: I have two 500gb hard drives (no partitions). My OS is on my C drive while my games and documents are on my D. These bulldozing options should theoretically affect the OS drive while leaving my D intact, correct? I'm asking this because I don't have an external drive at the moment to backup my stuff to. Having my D unaffected would be a more convenient route.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #48 on:** October 28, 2012, 09:58:53 PM »

I think so, but I don't know much about the details of system reset/restore tbh.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #49 on:** October 28, 2012, 11:00:54 PM »

Sounds like someone needs to take one for the team and check them out. If it ends up erasing my D drive, I swear to Lucifer, everyone in this thread will pay.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #50 on:** October 28, 2012, 11:15:47 PM »

Also, fwiw, I'm starting to really love this thing after getting the hang of it. The switching between desktop and Metro isn't as jarring now that I've visualized how the layering works.

Not mention discovering all the various shortcuts have greatly improved the flow of navigation. Just getting used to hitting the Win-key to bring up Metro (and realizing by simply typing I go straight to search), Win-C for the Charm Bar, and Win-Q (among other keys) to jump to the App list/search helped a lot. I can safely say I don't need the start menu anymore.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #51 on:** October 29, 2012, 12:24:13 AM »

Himu · « **Reply #52 on:** October 29, 2012, 12:25:39 AM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on October 28, 2012, 11:15:47 PM

Also, fwiw, I'm starting to really love this thing after getting the hang of it. The switching between desktop and Metro isn't as jarring now that I've visualized how the layering works.

Not mention discovering all the various shortcuts have greatly improved the flow of navigation. Just getting used to hitting the Win-key to bring up Metro (and realizing by simply typing I go straight to search), Win-C for the Charm Bar, and Win-Q (among other keys) to jump to the App list/search helped a lot. I can safely say I don't need the start menu anymore.

Sounds delicious. Windows has been the same for near 20 years, I'm excited to relearn it.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #53 on:** October 29, 2012, 12:33:42 AM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on October 28, 2012, 11:15:47 PM

Also, fwiw, I'm starting to really love this thing after getting the hang of it. The switching between desktop and Metro isn't as jarring now that I've visualized how the layering works.

I think what throws a lot of people for a loop is they sort of try to think of the desktop and "Metro" as "modes", like something you switch your whole computer into, but it really doesn't work that way. The start screen is more like a nexus of worlds (in a Philip Jose Farmer or Kingdom Hearts-esque cosmology) where everything comes together

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #54 on:** October 29, 2012, 01:03:11 AM »

The way I think of it - and I don't know if this is close to what MS intended or not - is that the Start menu has been removed because it's been replaced by the Metro Start Page. Metro is a full-screen start menu with a subset of light full-screen apps for tablet-style data consumption. Everything else is Windows 7. TAH DAH.

Upgraded this afternoon, have been loving it ever since. If desktop users don't quickly learn EVERY WinKey + ?? shortcut they are going to be sobbingly disappointed, however.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #55 on:** October 29, 2012, 01:11:12 AM »

I'm pretty happy with the mouse ways of doing everything, but YMMV

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #56 on:** October 29, 2012, 01:13:12 AM »

Quote from: Howard Alan Treesong on October 29, 2012, 01:03:11 AM

The way I think of it - and I don't know if this is close to what MS intended or not - is that the Start menu has been removed because it's been replaced by the Metro Start Page. Metro is a full-screen start menu with a subset of light full-screen apps for tablet-style data consumption. Everything else is Windows 7. TAH DAH.

My thoughts exactly. The minute you realize that is the moment you stop raging, and if you don't you might wanna see a doctor.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #57 on:** October 29, 2012, 01:18:31 AM »

aside from the obvious gaming stuff I can use my Surface as my primary machine all night long which is kinda nice. Im not switching to a laptop because the virtual keyboard is too annoying. Surface, even the RT is well designed from a usability standpoint- spec/performance hounds have plenty of beef though im sure- legitimately in some cases even

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #58 on:** October 29, 2012, 11:19:56 AM »

the start menu ultimately exists because we had to strategically migrate users in a useful, constructive way to a touch model for windows, and also because THE MARKET.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #59 on:** October 29, 2012, 02:01:45 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on October 28, 2012, 11:00:54 PM

Sounds like someone needs to take one for the team and check them out. If it ends up erasing my D drive, I swear to Lucifer, everyone in this thread will pay.

I can report that the "Remove Everything and Reinstall Windows" works beautifully like a fresh install, even from my cheap Upgrade License. If you allowed Win to sync your settings, some of your Metro options will be retained, otherwise everything on the OS hard drive will be wiped clean. The tool gave me a few options before starting which I appreciated (e.g. "Wipe all your drives or OS drive only" and "Delete all files or Thoroughly clean drive" I chose the latter and it took 6 hours to complete).

Everything right now has been reset to factory settings, from documents, apps, and drivers all the way to my registry. I'm a happy camper. All hail Balmer.

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Author Topic: The Windows 8 Experience (Read 6826 times)