Author Topic: EX-LAPD COP KILLER (Read 17503 times)

Mandark · « **Reply #120 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:45:17 AM »

If you check the source article, it's pretty vague.

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Asked directly if drones have already been deployed, Riverside Police Chief Sergio Diaz, who is jointly leading the task force, said: “We are using all the tools at our disposal.”

The use of drones was later confirmed by Customs and Border Patrol spokesman Ralph DeSio, who revealed agents have been prepared for Dorner to make a dash for the Mexican border since his rampage began.

He said: “This agency has been at the forefront of domestic use of drones by law enforcement. That’s all I can say at the moment.”

So it's not absolutely clear whether they're using drones or what they'd be using them for, or if this is unprecedented at all.

Yeti · « **Reply #121 on:** February 11, 2013, 01:08:22 AM »

Whelp, freedom had a good run.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #122 on:** February 11, 2013, 01:32:52 AM »

holy shit

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I kind of hope they never catch him

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Positive Touch · « **Reply #123 on:** February 11, 2013, 01:39:01 AM »

bububu innocent victims

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #124 on:** February 11, 2013, 02:32:07 AM »

Quote from: Yeti on February 11, 2013, 01:08:22 AM

Whelp, freedom had a good run.

Your lack of enthusiasm about drone strikes has been noted and sent to the proper agencies.

StealthFan · « **Reply #125 on:** February 11, 2013, 07:44:23 AM »

How sad if while all these jack-offs are fellating him like he's The Punisher manifest, he's a fucking icicle in Big Bear. When I say sad I mean hilarious.

Verdigris Murder · « **Reply #126 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:04:00 AM »

drew · « **Reply #127 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:28:12 AM »

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #128 on:** February 11, 2013, 10:36:11 AM »

drones can be used for lots of things, they're probably just trying to find him with them.

...cause they're not confident enough it'll shoot the right guy, which is important in the U.S., but not important in the mid-east :roll

but otherwise, drones are cool. we'll all be using them for all kinds of shit in the future...

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #129 on:** February 11, 2013, 10:36:59 AM »

Also, if you rearrange the name "Dorner" what do you get? DRONER. WAKE UP SHEEPLE

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #130 on:** February 11, 2013, 11:03:15 AM »

False alarm, the drones are just used for surveillance, which is not unprecedented.

drew · « **Reply #131 on:** February 11, 2013, 11:46:58 AM »

can you name a situation where fucking goddamn predator drones with skin melting Hellfire missiles were used to survey an American in America? I know it was recently made lawful but this is the first time I have heard of them being put to use.

Mandark · « **Reply #132 on:** February 11, 2013, 11:48:38 AM »

So the drones they're flying have hellfire missiles?

drew · « **Reply #133 on:** February 11, 2013, 11:49:58 AM »

probably not, but twas added for dramatic effect.

and by probably I actually mean positively

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #134 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:21:28 PM »

predator drones with skin melting Hellfire missiles personally controlled by Obama.

Mandark · « **Reply #135 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:22:41 PM »

fueled by ground-up bald eagles

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #136 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:26:36 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 11, 2013, 12:21:28 PM

sentient predator drones with skin melting Nuclear Hellfire missiles personally controlled by black muslim gun-hating Obama*

*some facts altered for dramatic effect

drew · « **Reply #137 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:29:20 PM »

seriously though guys, when have drones been used for surveillance of a fugitive before?

and by guys I mean silly gooses

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #138 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:30:03 PM »

Drones are already used on the borders, so this is nothing new

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #139 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:36:27 PM »

Quote from: drew on February 11, 2013, 12:29:20 PM

seriously though guys, when have drones been used for surveillance of a fugitive before?

and by guys I mean silly gooses

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2011
Janke knew the gunmen could be anywhere on the 3,000-acre spread in eastern North Dakota. Fearful of an armed standoff, he called in reinforcements from the state Highway Patrol, a regional SWAT team, a bomb squad, ambulances and deputy sheriffs from three other counties.

He also called in a Predator B drone.

As the unmanned aircraft circled 2 miles overhead the next morning, sophisticated sensors under the nose helped pinpoint the three suspects and showed they were unarmed. Police rushed in and made the first known arrests of U.S. citizens with help from a Predator, the spy drone that has helped revolutionize modern warfare.

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/dec/10/nation/la-na-drone-arrest-20111211

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #140 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:41:25 PM »

drew · « **Reply #141 on:** February 11, 2013, 12:44:55 PM »

hm. alright thanks!

something just hit me, is the predator drone called that in reference to the movie? it must be since it uses thermal imaging. I always thought it was just some lame generic name.

Flannel Boy · « **Reply #142 on:** February 11, 2013, 01:03:10 PM »

Idea for a new TV show: A Predator to Catch a Predator. In this reality show, adult women on the internet will impersonate underage girls to lure men to an open field for "sexual liaisons." Men lured there will be confronted by a MQ-1 Predator controlled by Chris Hansen, who will question them. If Hansen receives unsatisfactory answers, at them he will fire several skin melting Hellfire missiles.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #143 on:** February 11, 2013, 01:07:02 PM »

O god they hold several hellfire missiles now? I'm moving to Canada. Thanks Obama.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #144 on:** February 11, 2013, 01:50:44 PM »

Quote from: Flannel Boy on February 11, 2013, 01:03:10 PM

Idea for a new TV show: A Predator to Catch a Predator. In this reality show, adult women on the internet will impersonate underage girls to lure men to an open field for "sexual liaisons." Men lured there will be confronted by a MQ-1 Predator controlled by Chris Hansen, who will question them. If Hansen receives unsatisfactory answers, at them he will fire several skin melting Hellfire missiles.

I'll wait for Predator to Catch a Predator to catch a Predator. The Predator uses a Predator to find the Predator + underage girl, then he runs to where they are, quickly undoes his cloak camo, and screams in the guy's face. The guy runs away or passes out in fear. Then the Predator says in a perfect American accent with a deep male voice "well, I guess we learned who the Predator and the prey really are!" and everyone starts laughing and goes out for drinks after. They have a weekly vote on whether the guy they catch runs away or passes out in fear.

drew · « **Reply #145 on:** February 11, 2013, 01:51:19 PM »

Quote from: The Business on February 11, 2013, 01:33:21 PM

During one flight demonstration, a grenade attached to the bomber's underside detonated prematurely and wiped out Bailey's one-craft air force.

haha

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #146 on:** February 11, 2013, 07:47:58 PM »

Yeti · « **Reply #147 on:** February 11, 2013, 07:53:01 PM »

Quote from: Borys on February 11, 2013, 10:35:05 AM

From ebay:

(Image removed from quote.)

I feel like this is just begging to be given a speeding ticket.

StealthFan · « **Reply #148 on:** February 11, 2013, 08:38:38 PM »

Seriously. You're a fucking idiot if you drive around with that on your car.

Boogie · « **Reply #149 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:02:47 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on February 10, 2013, 11:49:44 PM

http://now.msn.com/christopher-dorner-is-first-drone-target-on-us-soil

Welp, they've authorized drones for the lapd killer. Not sure how I feel about this...

Apart from the fact that this news story was bunk, that drones have already been used for domestic surveillance as per Malek, and we can all agree that the idea of weaponizing drones for domestic purposes would be absolutely unacceptable.....it's time for a bit of devil's advocate.

Pretty much every big city police force already makes use of police helicopters, to assist in surveillance, track fugitives, offer support/intel to officers on the ground, participate in search and rescue, etc. And nobody has any issues with that.

So what is the difference between an aircraft conducting those roles with a pilot inside it, versus an aircraft that has a pilot controlling it from the ground? Why is it that we're supposed to encourage efficiencies in most human endeavours, but we should prevent law enforcement from utilizing efficient technologies? Especially in times of fiscal restraint when departments are facing unprecedented budgetary constraints.

I think there's a place for drones in domestic law enforcement as long as there are some clear policies that can be developed governing and limiting their use.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #150 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:13:23 PM »

Because drones are things used to hunt dirty sand people not good old Americans. Also mistrust of cops.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #151 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:14:05 PM »

Well, it allows people to kill at no physical risk to themselves. That's a very very scary prospect (for the citizenry, obviously - it's great for cops). That might actually make drones safer, I don't know (no self-defense motivated killings...) but it FEELS scarier. And also cold and indifferent and amoral. I think there is a lot of irrationality working against use of drones right now, basically.

Boogie · « **Reply #152 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:20:06 PM »

Quote from: Cormacaroni on February 11, 2013, 09:14:05 PM

Well, it allows people to kill at no physical risk to themselves. That's a very very scary prospect (for the citizenry, obviously - it's great for cops). That might actually make drones safer, I don't know (no self-defense motivated killings...) but it FEELS scarier.

Perhaps, but as per Malek's article, the drone allowed officers executing a warrant to lower their risk assessment, which is the sort of support that could reduce instances of itchy trigger fingers in such tense situations.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #153 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:28:09 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on February 11, 2013, 01:07:02 PM

O god they hold several hellfire missiles now? I'm moving to Canada. Thanks Obama.

You think you're safe behind the Maple Curtain?

Mandark · « **Reply #154 on:** February 11, 2013, 09:49:41 PM »

I don't think people would be nearly as freaked out except ~99% of the time they've heard about drones over the last decade has been about them being used to kill, and usually in the context of the lack of due process or judicial checks involved. So it's bringing up all sorts of scary associations even if it's essentially being used the same way as a police helicopter (I swear I was gonna make that comparison myself).

Anyway, drones are big and visible and I'd imagine somewhat loud. If we're worried about a sprawling surveillance state, I'd be more worried about the wiretaps, GPS tracking, online monitoring, and other potential spying tools that you'd never know about.

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #155 on:** February 11, 2013, 10:07:23 PM »

Drones can be as small as insects

Cormacaroni · « **Reply #156 on:** February 11, 2013, 10:08:01 PM »

Although IDK if the LAPD has access to that level of tech. From what i've seen of the Shield and so forth, I'm thinking no

brawndolicious · « **Reply #157 on:** February 11, 2013, 10:48:29 PM »

Quote from: drew on February 11, 2013, 12:29:20 PM

seriously though guys, when have drones been used for surveillance of a fugitive before?

and by guys I mean silly gooses

It makes more sense than a manned helicopter when you've had a manhunt across the wilderness for several days.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #158 on:** February 11, 2013, 11:13:56 PM »

Quote from: The Business on February 11, 2013, 10:36:02 PM

Accused cop kill local Oklahoma hero:

http://thislandpress.com/roundups/accused-california-cop-killer-chris-dorner-has-ties-to-oklahoma/

That's really depressing. $:-\$

drew · « **Reply #159 on:** February 12, 2013, 02:42:57 PM »

Quote from: Mandark on February 11, 2013, 09:49:41 PM

Anyway, drones are big and visible and I'd imagine somewhat loud.

this is false. something like the predator or one of the numerous smaller ones can operate at altitudes that mask or eliminate entirely any sort of audible cue. combining this with their paint job which is specifically designed to blend into the backdrop of the sky (think fish) and you have something that is pretty damn covert. Hell even Apaches are able to sneak up on targets and are able to watch them for long periods of time before the decision is made to place 30mm on their position.

ManaByte · « **Reply #160 on:** February 12, 2013, 04:22:44 PM »

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Associated Press quoting law enforcement source saying Christopher Dorner in gun battle with police in Big Bear area.

It started with a sighting, which then moved to a stolen car reported, and now they're in a shoot out.

Edit:

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Riverside Co. Sheriff's Dept. says Dorner was possibly involved in home-invasion in Big Bear, tied up couple and took off in their truck.

Don Flamenco · « **Reply #161 on:** February 12, 2013, 04:35:12 PM »

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=512128&page=55

f5 it, this is nuts

ManaByte · « **Reply #162 on:** February 12, 2013, 04:35:29 PM »

Two officers shot. He's throwing smoke grenades from the truck.

ManaByte · « **Reply #163 on:** February 12, 2013, 04:38:34 PM »

Here's the local ABC station here, they have a streaming link up for the broadcast but it's getting killed:
http://ktla.com/live/#axzz2Kiu5xU8Y

CBS: http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/live-video/

Radio: http://www.iheart.com/live/177/?autoplay=true

ManaByte · « **Reply #164 on:** February 12, 2013, 04:44:12 PM »

NBC's helicopter is better and their stream is too: http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Christopher-Dorner-LAPD-Manhunt-Search-Big-Bear-190902721.html

Lone · « **Reply #165 on:** February 12, 2013, 04:49:43 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #166 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:03:07 PM »

"I heard the word cabin, I don't know if he was in the cabin, or around the cabin, or in the back of the cabin, or if he was in the same cabin or a different cabin, but I definitely heard the word cabin."

Basically cabin is the point they're trying to make.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #167 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:07:04 PM »

FUCK ME I'm at work

ManaByte · « **Reply #168 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:08:02 PM »

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #169 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:11:49 PM »

Stern just pranked CBS with a call haha. A patient is giving everyone in the office updates

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #170 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:22:15 PM »

No way does Dorner make it out of that cabin alive.

Lone · « **Reply #171 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:22:59 PM »

yeah, sounded like Capt. Janks.

ManaByte · « **Reply #172 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:24:06 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 12, 2013, 05:22:15 PM

No way does Dorner make it out of that cabin alive.

No he's fucked. The FAA just put flight restrictions around the area to get the news copters away. One apparently got too close to the SWAT helicopter and the cops got pissed. They said they have snipers set around the cabin with armored vehicles coming in.

The two people he held hostage are probably going to get the $1 million reward.

Lone · « **Reply #173 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:26:40 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on February 12, 2013, 05:24:06 PM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 12, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
No way does Dorner make it out of that cabin alive.

No he's fucked. The FAA just put flight restrictions around the area to get the news copters away. One apparently got too close to the SWAT helicopter and the cops got pissed. They said they have snipers set around the cabin with armored vehicles coming in.

The two people he held hostage are probably going to get the $1 million reward.

More like the families of the 2 hostages

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #174 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:27:55 PM »

why the fuck are people defending this shitfuck

ManaByte · « **Reply #175 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:30:37 PM »

Quote from: Lone on February 12, 2013, 05:22:59 PM

yeah, sounded like Capt. Janks.

It was Ronnie.

Quote from: Lone on February 12, 2013, 05:26:40 PM

Quote from: ManaByte on February 12, 2013, 05:24:06 PM
Quote from: Great Rumbler on February 12, 2013, 05:22:15 PM
No way does Dorner make it out of that cabin alive.

No he's fucked. The FAA just put flight restrictions around the area to get the news copters away. One apparently got too close to the SWAT helicopter and the cops got pissed. They said they have snipers set around the cabin with armored vehicles coming in.

The two people he held hostage are probably going to get the $1 million reward.

More like the families of the 2 hostages

Why? They're alive. They got out.

ManaByte · « **Reply #176 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:34:57 PM »

Boogie · « **Reply #177 on:** February 12, 2013, 05:39:25 PM »

Glad they found him. Shame that two more officers have been hurt, but hopefully this will be it, now.

Snuflupagulus · « **Reply #178 on:** February 12, 2013, 06:00:16 PM »

Quote from: BrandNew on February 12, 2013, 05:27:55 PM

why the fuck are people defending this shitfuck

'Cause he's their Serpico. That he's a homophobic, murderous, vengeful monster is easily overlooked 'cause he's gonna save us all from the LAPD.

Oh, and he gave back some money. He's practically a saint, dying for our sins.

I'm a lefty, but wow do I part ways when supposed liberals decide that the cause is worth a few innocents.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #179 on:** February 12, 2013, 06:02:15 PM »

it's kind of like a reverse Skyfall!

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Author Topic: EX-LAPD COP KILLER (Read 17503 times)