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January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« on: February 08, 2013, 06:58:02 AM »
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           <-------- 2013 ------------->        <-------- 2012 --------->
System     Share (%)   Share (units)            Share (%)   Share (units)
Xbox 360     38.4%         810K   (-50K)          30.9%         860K
PS3          25.8%         545K   (-28K)          20.6%         573K
PC           10.8%         228K   (-84K)          11.2%         312K
Wii           8.6%         182K  (-352K)          19.2%         534K
NDS           6.6%         139K  (-170K)          11.1%         309K
3DS           5.3%         112K   (-44K)           5.7%         156K
PSV           2.2%          46K   (----)          ----%         ---K
WiiU          1.6%          34K   (----)          ----%         ---K
PSP           0.6%          13K   (-18K)           1.1%          31K
PS2           0.1%           2K    (-1K)           0.1%           3K

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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #1 on: February 08, 2013, 07:13:06 AM »
Looks like UK market collapse can be attributed to Nintendo collapse.

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I think 2011 numbers were much better than 2012 ones,will try to find them
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Can't find exact numbers but UK 2012 January was 27.7% down compared to 2011(units).
« Last Edit: February 08, 2013, 07:56:07 AM by maxy »
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #2 on: February 08, 2013, 07:48:18 AM »


Not really surprising

Vita looks to have two or three times the userbase and the UK is the territory it is doing 'least shit' in

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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #3 on: February 08, 2013, 10:18:32 PM »
Asked in a store how interest in Monster Hunter was : "not a single preorder, no one cares"

Girl working behind counter piped in with "I played it on the PSP for 20 hours and it was just too slow and annoying"

Yup yup - game doesn't start until around 40 hours in lol
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #4 on: February 08, 2013, 10:20:13 PM »
I'm guessing that due to the huge sales numbers of previous NSMB games, Nintendo figured that NSMBU would be good enough for gamers for a while.  Guess they fucked up on that gamble.
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #5 on: February 08, 2013, 10:21:22 PM »
I thought people have agreed to having all the sales talk in the same thread?

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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #6 on: February 08, 2013, 10:25:48 PM »
I'm very interested to see where Nintendo's going to go from here.  The WiiU is already fucked beyond hope, but I can't see them sitting out a whole generation *or* releasing a new console quickly.  Should be fun!

They already said they were making a lot of changes.  Specifically a major restructure of the gaming divisions into one big division.  And they will be pumping out a lot of games.  They system is screwed atm but i believe with a price drop and compelling software kids will want it.  I dont see the price dorp happening soon thought because Iwata's commitment to the 100 million in operating income.

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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #7 on: February 08, 2013, 10:34:11 PM »
Oh - UK store guy said they were hearing a price cut to coincide with new big titles in September time frame. I know there's rumblings but that would seem about right

Veering off topic : I liked the store and the people in it - it's rare that staff in them are knowledgable but everyone at Whitehaven Game was - and friendly and helpful. Manager guy , three times whilst i was in there, has went out of his way to help customers buying stuff for kids/others , making sure the people the gifts were for got points on their reward card by searching for details etc.

Hats off all round.
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #8 on: February 08, 2013, 11:09:56 PM »
holy shit  :o

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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #9 on: February 08, 2013, 11:21:27 PM »
September is too late

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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #10 on: February 09, 2013, 06:12:07 AM »
Well,Nintendo fans are trying to do something.They are sending emails to Ubisoft and signing petition.
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« Reply #11 on: February 09, 2013, 09:09:45 AM »
This reaffirms my belief that Nintendo must have been sitting on their asses for the last few years. The Wii's final years were a wasteland and a lot of 3DS stuff looks like DS ports...so what else was Nintendo doing. At least with the GameCube they were pumping out a Mario Party regularly lol

Still once Mario Kart arrives I'd imagine things will change. Plus a price drop
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #12 on: February 09, 2013, 10:06:01 AM »
It's not easy porting OoT and WW.

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« Reply #13 on: February 09, 2013, 10:11:50 AM »
When your games sell 20-30 million copies each, you probably won't feel like bothering to make new stuff.  However those days are done and probably will never come back.  I think Nintendo realizes this, which explains the HD port of Wind Waker.  That and I bet the Galaxy team is working 100+ hour weeks to get a 3D Mario out for this fall.  Same goes for Retro and Mario Kart 8.
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #14 on: February 09, 2013, 10:13:37 AM »
they were not working on modeling the feet in Fire Emblem, that's for dang sure.  why all those people got pig hooves?  o_O

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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #15 on: February 09, 2013, 11:44:53 AM »
Yup Retro, working on dat mature killer app. Any day now
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #16 on: February 09, 2013, 12:50:07 PM »
Yup Retro, working on dat mature killer app. Any day now

How long have they been working on that one, again? Six years?
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #17 on: February 09, 2013, 12:56:31 PM »
Guyz making an HD game is hard

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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #18 on: February 09, 2013, 03:08:41 PM »
I wrote Nintendo a letter about their current situation.


Dear Shigeru Miyamoto, Satoru Iwata and Reggie Fils-Aime,

I can see that you are in trouble and thought I would help you, if you will listen? I have only owned Nintendo consoles since the SNES and feel I have an excellent insight into where your troubles lie.

You're hardware is always excellent, although I WAS expecting an updated Wii U Remote and wireless Nunchuck with Wii U, which I hope you intend to bring to Wii U eventually. Hardware is not the problem.

Hardware is only ever going to be loved if it has a wealth and breadth of software available for it. This is the reason the NES and SNES were so loved, they had ALL the best games from every developer, not just Nintendo, made for it and felt like a DVD player in that respect. Just like a DVD player you had the freedom to play what ever type of content you wanted on it, it was all available to you. This has not been the case for any of your home consoles since the N64.

The reason why Nintendo has struggled since that time is because they have failed to produce consoles that have garnered that level of support. It is that level of support that enriches a platform with value. The less support, across the board, in all genres, the lover the appeal and the lover the perceived value of that console.

This is the problem that Wii U is having, no one is buying it because they simply do not trust Nintendo anymore to garner the highest amount of third party support and no third parties are making games for it because they think no one will buy them. It is Nintendo's full responsibility to change this!

Where Nintendo managed to just barely survive this situation in the past was when they, themselves, supplemented this lack of third party support. Goldeneye on the N64 is a good example of this. "Goldeneye" created the illusion that the N64 had a breadth of game genres when in fact it did not. "Rogue Squadron" was another example of this and so was "ExciteTruck". These "realistic" western style games fill gaping holes in the consoles library and prevent the console from being a complete failure.

Another reason I feel Nintendo had more success with the NES and SNES was that they embraced the west with those consoles more. Nintendo of America had more power in those days because Nintendo of Japan was not as arrogant. I feel that Nintendo of Japan is very insular today and does not understand the gaming needs of the west as much as they think they do. This is why they continually get caught by surprise. Nintendo of America needs to be given more power and responsibility for ensuring all the main western franchises such as "GTA 5" take pride of place on Nintendo consoles and for developing first party games in the same vein as those. I feel that Nintendo is very aggressively controlled from Japan and it needs to expand into the west to a point where at least 50% of it's first party software is made in the west, by western development houses like Retro Studios, Monster Game and the late Factor 5. Further more, do not squander the efforts of these wester development houses on more Japanese centric games like "Donkey Kong" and "Pilot Wings", have them always work on mature western style games to plug the gaps in your consoles game libraries.

I trust that this email will find it's way to Shigeru Miyamoto, Satoru Iwata and Reggie Fils-Aime where it may be able to do some good. Sometimes I feel that Nintendo's stubbornness, while often it's greatest strength, can also be it's undoing.

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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #19 on: February 09, 2013, 03:15:45 PM »
September is too late

Yup, September we'll be getting ready for actual next gen ish
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #20 on: February 09, 2013, 03:46:44 PM »
Well,Nintendo fans are trying to do something.They are sending emails to Ubisoft and signing petition.

so basically nothing while ignoring the real solution


Yup Retro, working on dat mature killer app. Any day now

How long have they been working on that one, again? Six years?

i would laugh if it was that was Mario Kart they were working on or some other nintendo francise but hopefully all that time didn't go to waste.



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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #21 on: February 09, 2013, 04:06:08 PM »
This reaffirms my belief that Nintendo must have been sitting on their asses for the last few years. The Wii's final years were a wasteland and a lot of 3DS stuff looks like DS ports...so what else was Nintendo doing. At least with the GameCube they were pumping out a Mario Party regularly lol

I know, it's crazy. 3DS lineup was a wasteland until finally they derped out a new Mario Kart and some N64 ports and then for the entire year of 2012, we get a half-assed NSMB, a half-assed Paper Mario game, and Kid Icarus. Then on the Wii front, the handful of games they did release in Japan (Xenoblade, Last Story, Pandora's Tower, Fatal Frame 2), they're like LOL NOPE, AMERICA. It's not a secret that people only buy Nintendo consoles for Nintendo games, but their output has been so lethargic lately, it's hard to even justify that.
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #22 on: February 10, 2013, 03:02:58 AM »
Yup Retro, working on dat mature killer app. Any day now

How long have they been working on that one, again? Six years?

They finished DKCR about two years ago and lost about six months helping get MK7 out the door.  So, about a year and a half, give or take?

Six years is how long people have been talking about a secret, "mature" Retro game that will make hardcore gamers weep.
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #23 on: February 10, 2013, 09:24:38 AM »
I honestly don't know what people were expecting from a "mature hard core" game on the wii, "hey guys it looks as good as RE4 Retrogods :bow2"
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Re: January UK software sales Vita > Wii U
« Reply #24 on: February 10, 2013, 10:45:10 AM »
You honestly thing graphics wouldn't be a big talking point of such game?
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« Reply #25 on: February 10, 2013, 11:23:07 AM »
I think I need to make clear that I'm not talking about the quality of the game, more of the reaction of bragging ninwarts on gaf.
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