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Metal Gear Rising OT of REVENGEANCE!!!!!!!
« on: February 17, 2013, 02:38:55 PM »
Just found a copy of the game in the good old KSA and I'm about to play through it for hours. Demo and trailers have me hyped while DmC and NG3 have me thirsty so I can't wait to delve deep into this after I'm done hanging out at the GF's place.
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« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2013, 03:38:39 PM »
authentic civilian disguise !!!!

six hours gaemplay !!! 1

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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2013, 04:22:58 PM »
I feel some bayonetta and DMC in there, but it seems way closer in DNA to Ninja Gaiden...more emphasis on speed and reactions rather than extensive fighting engine knowledge and style combos.  That's just from the demo.

edit: also, i'm super jealous! 

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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2013, 05:04:02 PM »
I really want to buy this when it comes out, but I don't have the money, so I won't. :'(

how strong are these ninja gaiden comparisons? enemies seemed pretty fuggen popcorn in the demo - even assuming they become more aggressive on harder difficulties.

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« Reply #4 on: February 17, 2013, 05:57:03 PM »
I need a 360/PS3 comparison. If it plays worse on the PS3 like Bayonetta did, then some VR missions won't convince me to get that version.

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« Reply #5 on: February 17, 2013, 06:03:06 PM »
Is it on Steam?
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« Reply #6 on: February 17, 2013, 06:29:07 PM »
I need a 360/PS3 comparison. If it plays worse on the PS3 like Bayonetta did, then some VR missions won't convince me to get that version.
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-metal-gear-rising-demo-showdown

I'm pretty sure since Bayo, Platinum has been fine on PS3. Seems like this may be even a bit better on PS3.

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« Reply #7 on: February 17, 2013, 06:40:59 PM »
Thanks, PS3 it is then. I'll preorder it from Gamestop tomorrow just to get the extra stuff.

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« Reply #8 on: February 17, 2013, 06:45:24 PM »
I really want to buy this when it comes out, but I don't have the money, so I won't. :'(

how strong are these ninja gaiden comparisons? enemies seemed pretty fuggen popcorn in the demo - even assuming they become more aggressive on harder difficulties.

The difficulty isn't there since i never played hard my frist go around, but they act a lot like Ninja Gaiden enemies if that makes sense.

in the demo I didn't really have to wait for openings in the enemy patterns, plus the free slash fucks them up for free, although they did seem to possess some ability to dodge if they were unfazed. the demo didn't have enough weapons/attacks (or enemy types for that matter) to really suss out if there are any specific rock-paper-scissor with regards to weapon selection/attack vs enemy types.

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« Reply #9 on: February 17, 2013, 07:05:35 PM »
If you buy this and Crysis 3 (same transaction) at TRU you get a $40 gift card
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« Reply #10 on: February 17, 2013, 07:59:05 PM »
wtf crysis 3 is coming out this week?   I thought it was due for march or may or something

i just wanna see what frames i get maxed lol

edit: unless it's open-ish like Crysis 1

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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2013, 08:04:42 PM »
Apparently there's an achieve for S ranking Revengeange difficulty. That might be on par with the Ninja Gaiden 2 MNM achievement.. meaning almost nobody will have it.

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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2013, 08:05:19 PM »
wtf crysis 3 is coming out this week?   I thought it was due for march or may or something

i just wanna see what frames i get maxed lol

edit: unless it's open-ish like Crysis 1
doubt there is many doors down that hallway, ceytek is a bunch of focus testing plebs these days.

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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2013, 08:12:27 PM »
Apparently there's an achieve for S ranking Revengeange difficulty. That might be on par with the Ninja Gaiden 2 MNM achievement.. meaning almost nobody will have it.
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« Reply #14 on: February 17, 2013, 08:31:18 PM »
http://www.ign.com/blogs/rpgb46/2013/02/15/review-metal-gear-rising-revengeance/


The recent DMC: Devil May Cry is evident that a melee action experience can still be incredible in 2013. 6/10



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i did think it was IGN at first.
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« Reply #15 on: February 17, 2013, 08:32:20 PM »
http://www.ign.com/blogs/rpgb46/2013/02/15/review-metal-gear-rising-revengeance/


The recent DMC: Devil May Cry is evident that a melee action experience can still be incredible in 2013. 6/10

its some user review but still  :lol

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« Reply #16 on: February 17, 2013, 08:33:30 PM »
there's no dodge   :lol


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« Reply #17 on: February 17, 2013, 08:42:51 PM »
Finally got to play the demo, game made me cum.
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« Reply #18 on: February 17, 2013, 08:43:14 PM »
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. The original Kojima Productions design was for the game to take place during the events between Metal Gear Solid 2 and Metal Gear Solid 4. Of this fuzzy period we knew that Raiden would have been tasked with rescuing the infant Sunny from the clutches of The Patriots, his loss of humanity and eventual transformation into the badasss cyborg ninja we saw in Guns of the Patriots. It turns out that these narrative guidelines didn't provide enough creative leeway for Platinum who then decided to set the game in 2018, four years after the fall of The Patriots.
Yes this fuzzy period that we already know what happen compared to a time that we don't know anything about.
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Even Raiden's personal history and what drives his reasons for fighting are explored but the outcomes remain shallow and presumably meaningless to anyone not familiar with the series.
You mean like in MGS4 by Kojima where all his development from two is thrown out to make him sad and badass?

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Content-wise the game is a little on the meager side. A campaign which clocked in at less than six hours (and one that I didn't at all rush and in fact spent a modest amount of time exploring areas looking for secrets) is definitely short by genre and series standards
You mean the series that includes other short games such as MGS1, MGS2, and MGS4 if not counting the cutscenes?
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though the linearity and little choice on how levels can be approached leave the game lacking any real incentive in regards to re-playability.
I guess fun isn't an incentive. I really hate the review stance on length of games. Vanquish and ZoE2 don't have a lot of "replayablity" , but fuck have I played them a lot because they are fun.



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« Reply #19 on: February 17, 2013, 08:46:29 PM »
it's not an official review, it's just some random uk bloke who hasn't been blessed with our american genes

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« Reply #20 on: February 17, 2013, 08:58:48 PM »
if only you yanks hadn't kicked them out of your little tea party way back when :gbcry

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« Reply #21 on: February 17, 2013, 09:14:27 PM »
Who has time for games that take skill and dedication anymore? Bring on the manchild power fantasies.

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« Reply #22 on: February 17, 2013, 09:42:55 PM »
I really want to buy this when it comes out, but I don't have the money, so I won't. :'(

how strong are these ninja gaiden comparisons? enemies seemed pretty fuggen popcorn in the demo - even assuming they become more aggressive on harder difficulties.

I saw someone say that enemies start wearing armor (or something like that) after the first couple chapters, so you can't just use blade mode to rip through everything.

I hope that's true because the demo made blade mode seem like the most insanely overpowered ability ever.
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« Reply #23 on: February 17, 2013, 09:56:38 PM »
The demo for this was completely terrible. The cutting mechanic works so hit or miss on the environment that I had no idea what was going on. Also, the cut scenes don't really feel like MGS at all

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« Reply #24 on: February 17, 2013, 10:02:45 PM »
shoulda called the nintendo tip line. if u press start there is a skip cut-scene button. victory in two inputs.

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« Reply #26 on: February 17, 2013, 11:10:17 PM »
just wont feel the same without them taking 30 minutes to walk me through the next 20 minutes of gameplay
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« Reply #27 on: February 17, 2013, 11:39:59 PM »
The demo for this was completely terrible. The cutting mechanic works so hit or miss on the environment that I had no idea what was going on. Also, the cut scenes don't really feel like MGS at all

the cut scenes not feeling like MGS at all is a good thing.  a very, very good thing.
Agreed. Blade mode camera was awkward though, but I got used to it after a while.

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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2013, 12:02:10 AM »
The demo for this was completely terrible. The cutting mechanic works so hit or miss on the environment that I had no idea what was going on. Also, the cut scenes don't really feel like MGS at all
They are just using the MGS name to get more sales. Captain obvious, I know.

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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2013, 01:51:35 AM »
just wont feel the same without them taking 30 minutes to walk me through the next 20 minutes of gameplay

Yeah uh, I didn't think those were good either. But the new cutscenes are bad. Just in a different way

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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2013, 02:14:09 AM »
I haven't been reading much, but I glanced some things that indicated vehicle sections, failable QTEs, and you can miss fights and lose rank as a result.  :-\

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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2013, 02:34:15 AM »
But can you cut werewolves and bomb them away in a coliseum?

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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2013, 02:36:53 AM »
I saw a pic where the guy missed one fight in a chapter, S-ranked all of the other ones and got an A as the overall grade. So basically it's just like Bayonetta.


The game also saves after pretty much every battle, so if you screw up you can just reload the checkpoint (which is also just like Bayonetta). That should make the 'S-rank Revengeance' achievement doable without too much trouble.
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2013, 02:40:15 AM »
i glanced some things that indicated this game is fucking bad ass and if you're not down with that, you can hang your testicles by the door and make the rest of us fellas a sandwich, mary


platinum's vehicle sections haven't been very fun so far

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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2013, 04:01:29 AM »
nm

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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2013, 10:02:26 AM »
Lol so basically everything that was probably put in the game to make Kojima happy sucks. I can live with that.

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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2013, 12:32:38 PM »
Got the guide and I'm gonna skim through it.  Should I spoiler stuff? 

first bit on difficulty levels: 
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it recommends you start on normal because your stuff carries over to Hard mode, where enemies have 50% more health and attack more often, but the enemies are the same.  Very Hard and Revengeance have remixed enemies (the same set for both difficulties.)  VH and RV further increase enemy strength, and lower Raiden's health.  But apparently on Revengeance, a successful parry counter kills any enemy? 
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this guide seems very good on the surface-- it's geared around helping you get all S-ranks, rather than just beating the game.
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2013, 01:53:23 PM »
Amazon shipped my copy last night via UPS from the distribution warehouse in Seattle. 8 miles from my house, but it's not coming until tomorrow. Balls.
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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2013, 01:58:32 PM »
guide has me hyped, i'm gonna go to a midnight launch for sure.

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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2013, 02:03:04 PM »
Gives me more time to try and finish Ni no Kuni this week. I've got Macross 30 coming next week, so if I can blow through MGR that would be awesome.
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2013, 02:08:34 PM »
there's a devil trigger called "ripper mode"

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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2013, 02:34:01 PM »
WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA

you gotta beat it on hard and very hard before you can give it a number, breh.  Don't do what game journos do!

Normal mode does sound like an 8/10, just there to collect unlockables, figure things out, and gear up for the rest.  One of those "true game doesn't begin until harder difficulties" games.
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« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2013, 02:41:04 PM »
i bought the game on ps3 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2013, 03:07:53 PM »
That schedule sounds kinda "lifey."  A lot of that stuff could be converted to more game time.  The money you'll save from not going out can be used to buy games and socks to poop in.

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« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2013, 04:40:01 PM »
i was just joking around man, it's cool :)

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« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2013, 08:19:37 PM »
This game is inching me closer to breaking my "not buy a game at full price" rule.


I should really stop playing the demo and listening to Bladewolf's boss track  :lol

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« Reply #47 on: February 19, 2013, 07:22:15 AM »
Makes me feel the opposite- that I should wait and pick it up for $40 at the highest.  But I want that pre-order grey fox skin bonus.  :(
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« Reply #48 on: February 19, 2013, 10:14:08 AM »
The game also saves after pretty much every battle, so if you screw up you can just reload the checkpoint (which is also just like Bayonetta). That should make the 'S-rank Revengeance' achievement doable without too much trouble.
It's still not going to be much more common than the NG2 MNM achieve. Didn't know you could carry over all your upgrades to a new game.. that would make it a lot easier. There's still VR missions lol.
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« Reply #49 on: February 19, 2013, 12:35:52 PM »
So with the game length, this game is the Platinum equivalent to Lollipop Chainsaw?
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« Reply #50 on: February 19, 2013, 12:42:11 PM »
didn't get it last night, got too tired.  Just got it now...gotta do some thangs before playing  :'(


The game also saves after pretty much every battle, so if you screw up you can just reload the checkpoint (which is also just like Bayonetta). That should make the 'S-rank Revengeance' achievement doable without too much trouble.
It's still not going to be much more common than the NG2 MNM achieve. Didn't know you could carry over all your upgrades to a new game.. that would make it a lot easier. There's still VR missions lol.


i feel bad for any one who put themselves through NG2 360 MNM.

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« Reply #51 on: February 19, 2013, 04:13:57 PM »
This is the Strider that Capcom can't give us.
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« Reply #52 on: February 19, 2013, 05:15:57 PM »
hah, thought the same thing. 

This game's fun.  My only real problem was screwing up a QTE at the end of the Ray fight and having my entire score get wiped for it.  That is bullshit and a holdover from Bayonetta.  I got hit from off-screen a couple times, which also sucked...as far as I could tell, I had about a frame to react and no warning, but I'll have to test that more. 

I don't find it to be nearly as parry-dependent as others have made it out to be.  Its just that none of his defense is a sure-fire block button to squeeze when you're in trouble.  He's mobile as fuck, so there's your defense. 

I'm skipping the cut scenes, I'll just read what's important later. 

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« Reply #53 on: February 19, 2013, 05:51:19 PM »
So is it worth full price purely as an action game? Or does an interest in MGS help ease the sting of FULL PRICE
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« Reply #54 on: February 19, 2013, 06:00:11 PM »
I'm loving the combat so far, but I'll have to see how it plays out on harder difficulties.  10 mins with this game's combat was enough to see that it would blow away anything DmC tried to do.  For me, Revengeance has a good chance of being up there with NG, DMC, Bayonetta so far.  Could go to hell if the game becomes "not fun" difficult on harder difficulties. 

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« Reply #55 on: February 19, 2013, 07:02:14 PM »
So is it worth full price purely as an action game? Or does an interest in MGS help ease the sting of FULL PRICE
Similar to Bayonetta and Vanquish imo. It's worth it if you're planning multiple playthroughs, aiming for high scores, collecting things, doing all the VR missions, etc. If you're just thinking of completing it on normal and never playing it again, you might want to wait. Not sure on the plot/character stuff but I heard there were a lot of optional codec conversations to dig into.

I'm very much enjoying it myself, just got it tonight. Despite all the ppl playing it early, today is the "official" launch day.

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« Reply #56 on: February 19, 2013, 07:19:56 PM »
It really reminds me of Strider, even with the MGS sound effects. Feels more like a 3D Strider really, and for that it's worth it.
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« Reply #57 on: February 19, 2013, 07:53:45 PM »
I picked it up
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« Reply #58 on: February 19, 2013, 08:12:44 PM »
It really reminds me of Strider, even with the MGS sound effects. Feels more like a 3D Strider really, and for that it's worth it.


The way he awkwardly bounces on a wall when you hit jump while ninja-running is very reminiscent of NES Strider.  :lol

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« Reply #59 on: February 19, 2013, 08:22:41 PM »
S Is For Strider by Ninja Theory