Sega or Nintendo?

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It's time to settle the score on the bore

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Segaaaaa in the lead

[Momo]

sega

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[archnemesis]

I had to go with Nintendo because of nostalgia from the NES/SNES era.

[archnemesis]

Pretty much any game is better than Sonic. Sega still has plenty of awesome classics. You should pick up one of the Mega Drive collections if you don't already own one. They're still putting out great games like Yakuza and Valkyria Chronicles, but soon I guess it will only be Football Manager and Total War left.

[archnemesis]

The thread is about personal pleasure, not importance for the industry.

[Momo]

How is that even a contest?

Mario >>> Sonic

Zelda, Metroid... well SEGA has nothing that can stand up to those franchises. Phantasy Staro? GTFO

Borys, you're drunk go home

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Sega has such a versatile library. Brawlers, fighters, shooters, racers, platformers, rpg's, action games, puzzlers, sports games.

Every gen they brought new stuff too. With Nintendo every gen its the same few games that are cool, Sega didn't roll like that.

Nintendo has a few amazing games themselves of course, but I always liked the freshness and arcadeness of Sega games more. They were always more flashy, more in your face, but with great depth to boot.

[archie4208]

20 years ago?  Nintendo

Now?  Sega

[Trent Dole]

20 years ago?  Nintendo

Now?  Sega

Yep yep.

[demi]

Nintendo, no question

All of Sega's games are on Nintendo platforms now

[DCharlieJP]

I love the NES/Famicom and the SNES/SFC but I -personally- liked Sega's output more. I think this is largely down to a couple of things : firstly that the NES didn't really happen in the UK , nor did the Master System so our gaming exposure to Nintendo was limited to their early arcade games - an area where Sega absolutely dominated them. Throw in Brits playing C64/spectrum and the ST/Amiga all through the NES/MS days and we just didn't particularly care at the time.

Then the Megadrive happens - the arcade games that people love are suddenly at home in a near-as-damn-it identical way. it handily out strips the Amiga/st in this department - games are pricy but video stores rent out games and everyone goes out and jumps on Megadrive.

Ultimately it's that Arcade/Megadrive period where Sega went above - pretty much forever - Nintendo in my heart. Afterburner , outrun, space harrier, quartet, altered beast, shinobi, super hangon, golden axe etc and then to take a huge chunk of those and put them on a home console with extras ? Oh yes.

Sega lost their way for sure but when Sega get things right they just have a different magic than what Nintendo have : Panzer Dragoon Orta, Crazy Taxi, Shenmue, Yakuza, PSO, Rez, Gunvalkyre, Chromehounds,  Outrun 2 etc - yes I know some of these are publishing deals rather than "true 1st party"

[Momo]

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Ultimately it's that Arcade/Megadrive period where Sega went above - pretty much forever - Nintendo in my heart. Afterburner , outrun, space harrier, quartet, altered beast, shinobi, super hangon, golden axe etc and then to take a huge chunk of those and put them on a home console with extras ? Oh yes.

I add the 32 bit period to this too, Sega Rally, Virtua Cop, Virtual On, Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racing, Star Wars, Daytona, Decathlon,  also some original like Panzer Dragoon, Burning Rangers.

[DCharlieJP]

In the UK the Saturn was still-born and we were back to the arcades - but the price of the Saturn, ill will from the 32x and Megacd , and the frigging Playstation meant that no one cared about Sega or Nintendo. This was also part of the last hurrah for British arcades (in any substantial way)

I was in Blackpool again in feb - this place used to have a 2km stretch of arcades full of games back in the day - now it's just slots/gambling with the odd outrun 2 or whatever. Blackpool used to be a gamers wet dream - now it's people playing Camel Derby :/

[Himu]

Sega has a classic game in like every single genre, and besides that has the industry standard on whole genres (arcade racers being one, rail shooters being another, light gun games being another). Nintendo does not have that. At most, they have Mario which is the top plat former, fire emblem is a top srpg, metroid is a top action action adventure. But for everything else you Will never see the best A genre offers with Nintendo. For example, Animal Crossing. I love it but it isnt a top tier sim series.

Nintendo is almost never at the top of a genre. Good, but not goat status.

On the other hand:

Streets of Rage - best beat em up franchise
Panzer Dragoon - best rail shooter franchise
Virtua Cop - best light gun game
Virtua Fighter - best 3d fighting game franchise since inception
Skies of Arcadia - one of the best traditional jrpgs made.
Outrun/Scud/Daytona - cream of the crop arcade racers.
Shinobi ps2 - cream of the crop 3d action game.

Nintendo even let Sega touch one of their heralded franchises, F-zero. What happens? They dominate Nintendo and show them how it's done. It isn't even close.

That said, nintendo knows how to put out a quality product. I think snes and genesis are about on par with each other. Snes coming out edging on genesis With games like chrono. But in the end, Nintendo had no part in making software like chrono. They just supplied devs a platform to do so. That's where Nintendo wins. But if we are talking sheer library? And diversity and quality within it?

Sega.

As far as pushing the industry forward, the industry always valued from crazy companies who did crazy shit in terms of variety and experimental software unless you're purely interested in Hollywood gaming.

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Saturn was pretty much dead in Netherlands too. But I had one and god was it sweet ass shit to play Daytona all weekend long trying to shave off .2 sec from your best time.

Himuro you hit the nail on the head. Whats the best game of the Gamecube launch? Super Monkey Ball.

[Momo]

 

[Human Snorenado]

I actually voted for Nintendo, because they've been relevant in the past decade

[Himu]

Get out, Wrath.

[Flannel Boy]

Nintendo.

[Himu]

Want to see Nintendo make games like these?




Guess what? You won't. 

Sega

[Diunx]

20 years ago?  Nintendo

Now?  Sega

.

[demi]

Neither will Sega, Himu.

[Human Snorenado]

ITT Himuro shockingly embraces games with flash and shallow gameplay, further details on this story in every Sega thread he's ever posted in

[tiesto]

SEGA of course. Every generation they'd make (and/or publish) amazing and creative games. Even this gen they put out Valkyria Chronicles, Resonance of Fate, Bayonetta and Vanquish. Phantasy Star is of course my favorite RPG series ever and Skies of Arcadia is up there. SEGA makes my favorite racing games (save Wipeout). And I have a soft spot for the 16 bit Sonic games.

Nintendo's games in the NES and SNES era were god-level (I'd rank Mario World, LTTP and Super Metroid as some of my favorites of all time, easily). But I never really liked the N64 as most other people and that really determined the direction Nintendo went with their next few systems. Mario, Zelda, Metroid... perhaps one short-lived revival of a more obscure series.

[Himu]

ITT Himuro shockingly embraces games with flash and shallow gameplay, further details on this story in every Sega thread he's ever posted in

Did you just call...GunValkyrie...shallow?

 

Someone needs to jump on this dude. His trolling has made him look like a straight up fool with shit taste. :damn No need, because Oscar, DCharlie, and Nuff will put him in his plebian place.

[Positive Touch]

ITT Nintards cling to nostalgia as their boring 2D games have aged horribly with Super Metroid and Yoshi's Island as the only exceptions.

dont you still buy new zelda games?

[Human Snorenado]

Distinguished black [gender neutral pronoun] please.  Where in that snarky one liner did I specify Gun Valkyrie?  You're in here slobbering all over Sega's flaccid, dead knob for their arcade-y shit, which is ALMOST ALL UNIFORMLY SHALLOW.  Fun but loses it's attraction quick, just like that kinda bland girl who sucked yo dick on the first date but can't carry a conversation.  Get real, bitch.

[Himu]

Distinguished black [gender neutral pronoun] please.  Where in that snarky one liner did I specify Gun Valkyrie?  You're in here slobbering all over Sega's flaccid, dead knob for their arcade-y shit, which is ALMOST ALL UNIFORMLY SHALLOW.  Fun but loses it's attraction quick, just like that kinda bland girl who sucked yo dick on the first date but can't carry a conversation.  Get real, bitch.

Sega arcade games...shallow? 

I'd love to see you play Daytona USA expert course.

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Listen figgurt, Sega games are easy to pick up but hard to master. You know what Nintendo has been trying to achieve for 30 years with fucking tutorials.

A game like Sega Rally has much more depth then Zelda, which is fucking straightforward.

Sorry you'd rather ride another meaningless lap in Mario fucking Kart and think that's DEEP cause of WHIMSY.

[Himu]

Triumph, you are coming out of this looking really bad. I'm sorry dude, but you are.

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Virtua Fighter is shallow brah 

SSMB on the other hand...

[Momo]

I know everybody is going to disagree with me on this but: Classic 2D Sonic > Classic 2D Mario.

I can certainly say that I loved SMB3 over all the sonics, but if given a choice I would take all the 2D Sonics over all the 2D Mario because together they would give me more enjoyment. I dont consider Doki Doki Panic a Mario game and I only ever really loved DDP and SM3

[Human Snorenado]

Mmmm... the butthurt is delicious.

Name a Sega game 1/4 as good as SMG from the past 5 years.  While Nintendo may be a shell of it's former self, Sega is a shell of a shell that subsists off filthy pachinko lucre.  The company's fans are the biggest collection of doofuses on the planet... it's like someone waiting for a new Buck Rogers show because "man that last one sure was awesome"

[Himu]

nicca, you have not even PLAYED SMG. When'd you get love for SMG?

[Momo]

Mmmm... the butthurt is delicious.

Name a Sega game 1/4 as good as SMG from the past 5 years.  While Nintendo may be a shell of it's former self, Sega is a shell of a shell that subsists off filthy pachinko lucre.  The company's fans are the biggest collection of doofuses on the planet... it's like someone waiting for a new Buck Rogers show because "man that last one sure was awesome"

Name a Nintendo game even 1/10th as good as Football Manager. (My point being as it is now the only genre they really overlap is Kart Racers and SEGA are ROYALLY buttfucking Nintendo there)

[Momo]

And well if you want to do SMG vs Generations, I loved Generations and have no love for what little of Galaxy I played. (I never really liked 3D Mario)

[Beezy]

Nintendo

[Flannel Boy]

Sega fans = :skip

[Sho Nuff]

Sega you fucks

[DCharlieJP]

Name a Sega game 1/4 as good as SMG from the past 5 years

A 1/4 as good as a 94 meta critic rated game is - oooooooo lets round up and go with 50. So um... Almost all of them then?

[demi]

Name a Sega game 1/4 as good as SMG from the past 5 years. 

I like Bayonetta and Vanquish more, but that's just me.

So we agree Platinum games are better than SMG. Any Sega games?

[Joe Molotov]

Bayonetta's now a Nintendo franchise anyway since Ninty saved it from the Sega trash heap, haha.

[Beezy]

Name a Sega game 1/4 as good as SMG from the past 5 years. 

I like Bayonetta and Vanquish more, but that's just me.

So we agree Platinum games are better than SMG. Any Sega games?

Haha, exactly. Are we gonna credit Treasure made games to their publishers too?

[Great Rumbler]

Sega? Yawn. Wake me up when they make a game as good as Metroid Prime. 

[Positive Touch]

sega fans content playing their shitty $100 virtua racing carts while real gamers share tips on getting that 100% in super metroid and yoshis island

sega fans blowing all their parents money at the arcade while nintendo fans play home versions with near-perfect graphics and sound

sega fans suckin dick to get cash for that 6-button controller when nintendo fans got the real deal straight out of the box

whatever helps you sleep at night, losers

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Nintendo by far.  This isn't even up for (serious) discussion.

[Momo]

sega fans content playing their shitty $100 virtua racing carts while real gamers share tips on getting that 100% in super metroid and yoshis island

sega fans blowing all their parents money at the arcade while nintendo fans play home versions with near-perfect graphics and sound

sega fans suckin dick to get cash for that 6-button controller when nintendo fans got the real deal straight out of the box

whatever helps you sleep at night, losers

Enjoy replaying the same 4 franchises for eternity dirty ninthing 

[Steve Contra]

Sega made Shenmue, so Nintendo

[Phoenix Dark]

Nintendo

[maxy]

Source: (Sebastien-Abdelhamid) He works with pretty big independent French TV channel and is part of the Monaco Anime Game Show.

Yu Suzuki just said that he is thinking about a Kickstarter to fund the Shenmue 3 developement ! #MAGS

Himu to sleep in a cardboard box.

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So many dirty ninthings demasking themselves here, you know where you stand if there ever is a borocaust.

Its pretty clear all cool dudes like sega, while everyone who likes nintendo is a bit of a  loser (no offense).

[Human Snorenado]

 

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Name a Sega game 1/4 as good as SMG from the past 5 years. 

I like Bayonetta and Vanquish more, but that's just me.

So we agree Platinum games are better than SMG. Any Sega games?

Whats so good about smg anyway?

Oudated graphics and the same dude as i played 20 years ago snooooorreee typical nintendo wank.

Ive made turds that look better.

Can I include the gcn/dc/ps2 era in this cause technically smg is a gcn game.

[Shaka Khan]

Lager pls

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Fucking nintendo fans fawning over games like zelda, metroid that take no skill :/

No suprise that triumph likes it though, d3 is like a nintendo pc game.  Hand holding rehash.

[Raban]

and Andrex thinks we hate Nintendo

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and Andrex thinks we hate Nintendo

Yeah thats the best part