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You don't need to play all these games to play MGS5.

You'll be burned out before it hits.

Just buy MGS5 and play that. Then if you're hungry for more buy the HD collection.

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Also if I hate it then you get the satisfaction of seeing me crawl back here, admit you're right, and trash the series. Isn't that what you want anyways Oscar-san?

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You need a PS3 for Bayonetta anyway so you might as well jump in with a big splash.
Bayonetta on PS3  :kobeyuck


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Yes, good point. The framerate and image quality is quite awful. Maybe you're better off borrowing a 360 from someone instead.

If we're still weighing in on Metal Gear, I'm with Oscar. Play Metal Gear Solid 1 and call it a day.

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No, play all mainline ones. MGS1 and 3 are good games, MGS2 is hilarious and at least decent. MGS4 is, by all accounts, bonkers. I'm leaning towards watching a let's play because I still don't (and likely never will) have a PS3, but part of me wants to experience it first hand.

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smh

Play them in order. Play them all.
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The big problem with people who say don't play mgs2 is they, in their hate, have not played one of the greatest games of all time: Metal Gear Solid 2 Substance. The vr missions alone are worth admission. If you ask them why they don't like mgs2, usually it'll be because story. Consider this: I've played mgs2 (counting replays) aboutttt 10-12 times. I've gone through the story only once: in2001. Be mashin that start button. You'll find different kinds of MGS players: those homos who play it for story. And then there's us like me, Don, Brobzoid, etc al who play Mgs because it is a highly replayable, and challenging franchise that allows multiple play styles and are short enough to play over and over.

The only misstep in this is MGS4. Play all of them (except mgs4).
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Raban

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Andy.  Buddy.  Come on.  Who you gonna believe here.
There's no helping him now :shaq

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fuck Andrex.  Why do people do this "fawning over the guy who hasn't played [game]" thing? 

You all should be ashamed of yourselves.   You should be saying "You know what Andrex?  I don't care what you have played.  You can take the MGS series and shove it up your waggle hole."   It should be completely unsafe to discuss video games on this site.  The laws of nature.

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Just play Metal Gear Rising: REVENGEANCE and you'll be fine

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this conversation should remind us that although we make fun of other nerds, we are clearly no better than them
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This thread reminds me that I'm hungry for cock.
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 :drool solid snake :drool
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Hell yes.
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You all should be ashamed of yourselves.   You should be saying "You know what Andrex?  I don't care what you have played.  You can take the MGS series and shove it up your waggle hole."   It should be completely unsafe to discuss video games on this site.  The laws of nature.

Maybe I want to see him shove things up his waggle hole, you ever think of that?  :uguu

Just play Metal Gear Rising: REVENGEANCE and you'll be fine

As far as spin-offs:

AC!D=Revengence > Ghost Babble > 2: Solid Snake or whatever that NES "sequel" that isn't Kojima was.

brob

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64006776&postcount=83

maybe this man assaulting his wife in public is actually just an aspect of their perfectly consensual sex life?

Tasty

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Yes, good point. The framerate and image quality is quite awful. Maybe you're better off borrowing a 360 from someone instead.

It can't be that bad....

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MGS1,2,3 all have their merits (2 holds up the least though unfortunately; probably still good for the first run when you don't know what the story is)

4...yeah, Acts 1 & 2 have great gameplay.  The rest of the game is an interactive movie that is very terrible.

Peace Walker has good gameplay, a little repetitive (needed way more bosses instead of repeating the same 4-5 fights a dozen times), and the story is sort of ok but ultimately becomes pretty bad because, like MGS4, Kojima wants to keep tying everything to MGS3 which hurts the other games' plots.  Kind of like how MGS4's plot was awful because it was tied so heavily into the MGS1-3 plots. 


Honestly, as hyped as I am for MGSV, the inclusion of MGS3 BOSSES AGAIN has me fairly worried as Kojima's insistence on not letting go of MGS3 and continually bringing up THE BOSS & the other MGS3 characters keeps hurting these recent MGS games.  JUST LET IT GO ALREADY KOJIMA, IT IS OK TO MOVE ON.

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I get that the point of the post-MGS3 story is that Big Boss is never able to move on but continually shoving The Boss and everyone down the players throats every game is getting old.  Do we really want to fight, run away from, or interact with nightmare induced versions of Volgin, The Boss, and whoever else in MGSV?
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Raban

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Bebpo, it sounds like you should probably stop playing MGS games.

archnemesis

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Yes, good point. The framerate and image quality is quite awful. Maybe you're better off borrowing a 360 from someone instead.

It can't be that bad....
It's playable, but the performance is bad enough to be distracting. I got my copy for ~£15 and for that price it was worth it. Oh, and the game isn't actually that good. The combat is better than in Devil May Cry 1&2 and God of War 1&2, but everything else (story, art, music, level design, characters etc) is lacking.

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I think you are selling the game short archnemesis. The cut-scenes desperately need to get skipped, the vehicle missions are butt and I dislike having to buy so many moves and weapons - but besides that the game is very great. Combat is especially noteworthy since it isn't just Devil May Cry with tits, but actually has some fanciful ideas and concepts that are well executed and set the game aside as it's own thing.

Though to compare it to Devil May Cry - with regards to combat - I'd say it's better than all of them, except maybe DMC4 with it's LDK mode.
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archnemesis

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Even the story in Metal Gear Solid 4 is a league above the tripe you find in games like Vanquish and Bayonetta.
Though to compare it to Devil May Cry - with regards to combat - I'd say it's better than all of them, except maybe DMC4 with it's LDK mode.
I still haven't played 3, 4 and DmC.

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I wouldn't know. I've always skipped the cut-scenes in both Vanquish or Bayonetta.

If you haven't played DMC4 you should definitely spring for the PC version as it is actually competently ported and they added a mode where they just fill every god damned enemy encounter with enemies. pouring enemies out of everywhere. Shit's cray.

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The PS3 version is sitting in my shelf waiting in its steelbox and shrinkwrap.

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I tried to get into Vanquish and I dunno... I just stopped playing it. The games opening feels extremely limited compared to the demo's same opening. I get they made the demo more powerful but it's kinda hard to play the game after playing the demo a lot and getting used to the stuff you are able to do.

brob

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never played the demo, how is it different?

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never played the demo, how is it different?

They locked some of the abilities or maybe they changed the controls or something but not being able to throw a grenade and jump into the air and slow-mo fire it really took me out of the experience. In the demo you are a sliding around god. Here they nerf you (obviously) but you kinda feel too weak to be worth slogging through. I dunno if it's a demo screw-up or what, just how I felt.

I really should go back to it and maybe get the powers back but it just wasn't too interesting to do that for me.

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Can't you throw and backflip shoot grenades in the opening stage in the retail game? I don't think any of those things are unlockables. You just need to have grenades and have the right gun equipped that has the backflip as it's melee attack (which I think is the default assault rifle you start with)

Is there any unlockable skills in the game at all? I know you can upgrade your weapons, but that's more capacity, damage and such.

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thisismyusername

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Can't you throw and backflip shoot grenades in the opening stage in the retail game? I don't think any of those things are unlockables. You just need to have grenades and have the right gun equipped that has the backflip as it's melee attack (which I think is the default assault rifle you start with)

Is there any unlockable skills in the game at all? I know you can upgrade your weapons, but that's more capacity, damage and such.

No and no. Maybe I don't have the right gun equipped but in the demo you could jump over cover after Gears of Warring to it and having thrown a grenade over it, as you're jumping over the cover/vaulting it you pop slow-mo and hit the grenade. I couldn't seem to get Sam to do that. Like I said, I dunno if they changed the controls or removed mechanics until later or what but it took me out after playing the demo a lot.

I got the disc sitting here so it isn't like it being on my PS+ list would stop me from playing it. I just haven't had the urge to go back and work on it.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=592646

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To be fair, he isn't entirely wrong: Dude is 94 years old. Putting him on trial at this point while "justice" is kinda pointless. He wouldn't survive the sentence and possibly wouldn't even survive the what... 1-3 years it takes to get the trial even heard in courts. I do think they should deport him and hold an expedited court-session, though.
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brob

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if you aim (left trigger?) as you vault it should initiate slow motion allowing you to shoot the grenade. I don't have the game currently, but I'm fairly certain they don't lock anything out of the opening mission. maybe the controls were different or something in the demo. I dunno. you should play vanquish tho.

it's a good game.


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Be: Yes, yes I do want to fight a nightmare version of the Boss. Instead of the flower-field we have a burning flames of hell. "Dynamic-CQC" against the boss?  :drool

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64064001&postcount=7284

Ah fuck. And not banned anymore.

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Just unfriended some taco on my facebook for calling me sexist. I said I don't like it when developers shoehorn a poorly written female into a game to appease people. First Facebook argument I've ever had and I feel so satisfied. I could build a house.
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Well I'm glad the pictures didn't load on my phone, the text was wtf horror enough. Why did I read :-\ :-X :yuck

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A coworker told me a very similar story. His grandmother is on her way out and he's in charge of her finances now. She has been living with her son (my coworker's uncle) and she's pretty much invalid along with him. Their house got cluttered up just like in one of those hoarder shows. He showed me pictures of their kitchen, but you could barely tell it was a kitchen because of all of the junk lying around. There were beer bottles and cereal boxes everywhere. Trash was strewn across the floor and covered with maggots. To get around, they made small pathways through all of the trash and junk. Shit was unseemly, yo.

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How the fuck do people even live like that?

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http://neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=592056

What a terrible fucking thread.  I knew going on to GAF was a mistake but I'm still unable to learn that lesson.
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I used to live like that. My father died in front of me and I went a little crazier than I already was. It was gross.
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Even the story in Metal Gear Solid 4 is a league above the tripe you find in games like Vanquish and Bayonetta.


Now, Bayonetta is way rougher than people seem to remember it.  The cut scenes get long and serious in the end.  Vanquish, I don't even remember.

but MGS4 is one of the worst crimes against writing, pacing, and story telling I've ever seen in any medium.  Everything is just wrong.  It does nothing right.  except the animation and character models.  It can't even be excused by "it's a video game!" 8 hours of cut scenes, millions upon millions of dollars.  Someone wrote the dialogue and thought "yeah this works" and made those poor VAs read it.  Kojima said "okay, this story works."  Things were greenlit and hundreds stood idly by and let them happen. If A Serbian Movie was about game development, it would be a documentary about the making of MGS4.

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:lol

looks like he's having fun
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A coworker told me a very similar story. His grandmother is on her way out and he's in charge of her finances now. She has been living with her son (my coworker's uncle) and she's pretty much invalid along with him. Their house got cluttered up just like in one of those hoarder shows. He showed me pictures of their kitchen, but you could barely tell it was a kitchen because of all of the junk lying around. There were beer bottles and cereal boxes everywhere. Trash was strewn across the floor and covered with maggots. To get around, they made small pathways through all of the trash and junk. Shit was unseemly, yo.
Sounds a bit like what happened with my grandparents. My grandmother was a major hoarder, and stored a lot of shit in the basement of their house; it's a huge basement complete with a bar area, bathroom, and laundry room. My granddad built it in the 60s, it's really a beautiful house...but completely unlivable for old people. Lots of stairs, lots of rooms, etc. So as they got older the house fell into disarray. We'd go over all the time and clean up as our cousins and uncles walked around the house in their dirty fucking shoes.

My cousin moved in with them as a "caretaker" but all he did was buy lots of groceries, cook lavish meals, and leave leftovers in the fridge to rot. I'd go over and find myself throwing out shrimp, chicken cutlets, and other stuff he bought at the market only to never cook. The hoarded stuff started piling up in the basement and even upstairs, and things just got bad. There would be huge plastic bags full of empty pop bottles in various corners of the house, the oven was constantly plastered with cooking oil, the backyard was full of trash, etc. I'd go to the house with my mom to clean up but it was too much; the house is in Detroit, an hour away from us, while the rest of the family lives in Detroit and didn't help at all (outside of one awesome aunt).

After my granddad died, my cousin started spending less and less time in the house, leaving my grandma (who was sick at the time) alone. I missed a lot of school driving down to Detroit to stay with her and try to clean up the trash, and my parents helped too. Trash was piled up everywhere, and while I rarely saw my cousin I was always greeted by the messes he made in the kitchen, and soiled food everywhere. Eventually we got her to agree to move to a convalescence home, and hospice a few months later. I haven't been back to the house since she died. She gave it to my cousin in her will, along with a lot of money. He never payed the bills, lived there even after the city cut the lights/water out, and wasted all the money on food and music equipment before moving out. From what I've heard the house became an absolute pig pen, including buckets of piss everywhere after the toilets stopped working.
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Look, if Andrex is making the mistake of getting into the MGS series, it's only fair that he pays the penance of playing MGS4 like we all regrettably did. You can't read the New Testament and skip the crucifixion.

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I can do whatever I want. Y'all ain't the boss of me.

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It's funny how Nintendo is under-sexualized and MGS is over-sexualized and there's such a large overlap of the venn diagrams of the two. poo poo.

But like every other game is like first-person which is like asexualized ya know?


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It's funny how Nintendo is under-sexualized and MGS is over-sexualized and there's such a large overlap of the venn diagrams of the two. poo poo.

But like every other game is like first-person which is like asexualized ya know?
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64064001&postcount=7284

Ah fuck. And not banned anymore.

Were you juniored at some point?

Wut. I hope you don't think I'm Ninjaboi :lol But yeah he's not juniored anymore either, what gives? It's not like his posting habits have improved. I guess it was as an apology for apparently accidentally banning him along with a bunch of other juniors (who never made it to member status).

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First thing Monday morning and I see someone posted a picture of a Penguin getting its head ripped off in the "Antarctica satellite pictures freak me out" thread  :(

I just...  I'm starting to buy the violent video games desensitize you argument. Some gaffers man...

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Nothing I ever saw in video games prepared me for some of the shit on 4chan and other places. You can count on schoolyards being full of kids showing shocking video clips to each other.

Tasty

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=592996

On the one hand, it's funny to see Ninthings get works up over the title.

On the other, complaining that Animal Crossing is casual is about one of the dumbest complaints I've seen. It's like saying Shenmue is for the mentally handicapped. You're not wrong, but what's the point in complaining about it?

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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=64064001&postcount=7284

Ah fuck. And not banned anymore.

Were you juniored at some point?

Wut. I hope you don't think I'm Ninjaboi :lol But yeah he's not juniored anymore either, what gives? It's not like his posting habits have improved. I guess it was as an apology for apparently accidentally banning him along with a bunch of other juniors (who never made it to member status).

Ah okay. Lame if that's the reason they were reinstated. Not that I got any beef with Ninjaboi, but as someone who's been juriored for 8 months now for a nonsensical reason, it's a little annoying to see people like him and salsashark roam free.