Author Topic: I reactivated my pre-BC WoW account today. (Read 2368 times)

Joe Molotov · « **on:** March 12, 2013, 09:07:41 PM »

lol, i dunno. anyone want to dick around with me on newbie island? :sadcam

It was $40 to upgrade to MoP, so I did it. I want to be a Panda Brewmaster, I think. Tell me things plz, Based WoW-Bore.

etiolate · « **Reply #1 on:** March 12, 2013, 09:34:30 PM »

you can play with mana?

Akala · « **Reply #2 on:** March 12, 2013, 09:58:53 PM »

I'm actually dicking around on muradin now. There were good deals on expansions for Xmas and I'm only now getting a bit of time to play. Haven't played since LK launch. Name is Akala on muradin, should be on a bit for the next month or so.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #3 on:** March 12, 2013, 10:11:21 PM »

you shouldve asked one of us to do a scroll of redemption so you couldve got a free level 80 character

The Sceneman · « **Reply #4 on:** March 12, 2013, 10:20:28 PM »

It's interesting the price is the same. With todays inflation and digital pricing model I'd expect the sub to be higher. Or is there ultra premium sub with free helmet every week for 27.99?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #5 on:** March 12, 2013, 10:25:11 PM »

lepper Joe pls

etiolate · « **Reply #6 on:** March 12, 2013, 10:46:34 PM »

leper? joe as a panda bear? this is a favor for demi!

The Sceneman · « **Reply #7 on:** March 12, 2013, 10:46:51 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on March 12, 2013, 10:25:11 PM

lepper Joe pls

:sadcam

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #8 on:** March 12, 2013, 10:48:32 PM »

Trying to avoid my urge to return. Obviously I'll go back eventually but I need to stay away right now

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #9 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:19:22 PM »

Quote from: MyNameIsMethodis on March 12, 2013, 10:11:21 PM

you shouldve asked one of us to do a scroll of redemption so you couldve got a free level 80 character

Yeah, I didn't know that was a thing until after I'd already resubbed.

etiolate · « **Reply #10 on:** March 12, 2013, 11:24:58 PM »

There's probably ten free week offers sitting in the email your wow account is tied to as well.

ManaByte · « **Reply #11 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:48:40 AM »

Every time someone plays a MMO that isn't GW2, Etoilet loses out on some of his sweet viral marketing kickbacks.

FatalT · « **Reply #12 on:** March 13, 2013, 03:59:46 PM »

What's your RealID? Mine is FatalT#1820 so add me!

originalz · « **Reply #13 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:03:42 PM »

This shit is still $15 a month?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #14 on:** March 13, 2013, 09:11:23 PM »

Quote from: FatalT on March 13, 2013, 03:59:46 PM

What's your RealID? Mine is FatalT#1820 so add me!

JoeMolotov#1388

Freyj · « **Reply #15 on:** March 16, 2013, 03:06:36 PM »

I should have bought one of those $15 Mists back in November for myself.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #16 on:** March 16, 2013, 05:25:47 PM »

Introducing you to dungeons is poor but raiding is easier than ever now with LFR.

Raidings fun if you do it with buddies or have a clear purpose/goal. I kinda miss it. It's fun contributing to at eam.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #17 on:** March 16, 2013, 05:36:46 PM »

Youre supposed to alt tab out of raids to see what youre supposed to do on youtube jeeeeeez

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #18 on:** March 16, 2013, 05:52:34 PM »

Private servers are better for this (edit: well, I guess that's not true if you want to play as a panda or whatever). I'd gladly pay a monthly subscription for a legit Blizzard-supported pre-expansion server.

I just did my weekly ten 2v2 games on the TBC server I play.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #19 on:** March 16, 2013, 07:16:53 PM »

Id play vanilla wow too for sure.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #20 on:** March 16, 2013, 10:10:05 PM »

Quote from: Ruzbeh on March 16, 2013, 05:20:59 PM

I've found that WoW gets really boring after level 50 or so. Amazing till level 25, not so amazing 25-40 and just straight up boring thereafter.

I've also only once done a raid: American beta back in 2004. Never done a dungeon raid though, I have no idea what it's like, and WoW does an absolute shit job of introducing you to it. Actually, the introduction to dungeons is also very poor.

It's funny how WoW does certain things really bad but no other MMO has ever topped it. It's quite embarrassing, actually.

If you haven't raided you're in no position to say the game sucks after lv50. With respect to "introducing" people to raids...heroics do that for you. Basically if you know not to stand in bad stuff, you can raid in 2011-2013 WoW. At its best few things are more fun than a truly challenging raid with a good no-drama group of players.

In terms of preparing for raids...smh. I'm a tank, I had to study every fight before entering a raid. But I'd imagine it doesn't matter with DPS; someone can explain that shit to you during the raid.

FatalT · « **Reply #21 on:** March 17, 2013, 12:54:54 AM »

I'm up to level 76 now. Only 14 levels to go!

etiolate · « **Reply #22 on:** March 17, 2013, 03:36:25 AM »

smh ruzbeh

I'm pretty sure I took PD through his first dungeon, and as far as first dungeons go, Deadmines is pretty awesome.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23 on:** March 17, 2013, 04:10:30 AM »

Deadmines teaches you nearly everything you need to know, it really is a great intro to sell the group dynamic. But for me the first truly amazing group moment was an ogre killing quest in Loch Modan/Thesalmar. I didn't know about tanking at the time iirc so we were just killing shit.

Then there was Gnomer, which felt like a raid in vanilla. I remember spending a couple hours in there on an epic run full of fail and excitement. Tanking as a prof warrior wasn't easy. I wasn't great but honed my skill enough so people re-invited me to groups all the time. Iirc my biggest struggle was in some of the TBC dungeons initially. I remember wasting like 3 hours of Etiolet's day in Mana Tombs lol

Which brings me to a major reason WoW lost its appeal to me. I like how quick LFG makes things but it killed server identities in a sense. I read trade/general/LFG chats in vanilla/TBC/LK because groups were always forming. Or a healer friend might sign on and you'd immediately send a whisper; better yet I'd log on and get whispers begging for me to tank something. You quickly got a sense of who was good, who to avoid, etc and it eventually led to joining the big boys in raids. Now it feels like servers are just irrelevant hubs for LFG/LFR searches. I miss feeling like the server was constantly progressing.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #24 on:** March 17, 2013, 04:48:35 AM »

Yeah back in vanilla/bc you had a list of peeps you could trust outside of your guild. Real communities too.

Sigh

etiolate · « **Reply #25 on:** March 17, 2013, 05:36:23 AM »

I still think you need a proper LFG tool in game. It's aim is the same as spamming LFG in chat. The problem is that Blizzard eventually refined LFD into something so entirely automated that there wasn't much of a reason to talk to each other. They also reduced dungeon difficulty just to make LFD work.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #26 on:** March 17, 2013, 10:31:51 AM »

Exactly. On one hand I recognize a return to manual LFG wouldn't work today, especially for smaller servers where a lv74 player might never find four folks to do a dungeon after 10PM PST. On the other I would love to see an introduction of more incentives for people to play together on their server.

When I last played you could do enough heroics (and raids) a week to get about what, 1000 Justice Points? There was a time when the JP amount was much lower and you mainly got them through a daily dungeon; I remember getting on around 2AM every night to see what the new daily was, then doing it quickly with friends (assuming it wasn't Occulus because fuck that place at 2AM). I'd love to see a return to something like that. Maybe instead of 1000 weekly JPs from pure LFG you would get 600 from LFG and 400 from doing dungeons with groups from your server; and of course scale the difficulty based on gear level to a degree. That would definitely bring life back to many servers.

And give free server transfers if someone from a full server joined a small to even things out.

Freyj · « **Reply #27 on:** March 17, 2013, 01:18:05 PM »

Quote from: Ruzbeh on March 16, 2013, 05:20:59 PM

I've found that WoW gets really boring after level 50 or so. Amazing till level 25, not so amazing 25-40 and just straight up boring thereafter.

I've also only once done a raid: American beta back in 2004. Never done a dungeon raid though, I have no idea what it's like, and WoW does an absolute shit job of introducing you to it. Actually, the introduction to dungeons is also very poor.

Holy shit man, level 50 takes what, 10 hours now?

The quality of whatever you're doing 25-40 vastly changes depending on what zone you are in. Some zones were completely overhauled with Cataclysm, some were almost left untouched. Considering that you haven't needed to cross continents to go 1-60 since 2005, you have a lot of options.

Quote from: OptimoPeach on March 16, 2013, 05:52:34 PM

Private servers are better for this (edit: well, I guess that's not true if you want to play as a panda or whatever). I'd gladly pay a monthly subscription for a legit Blizzard-supported pre-expansion server.

I just did my weekly ten 2v2 games on the TBC server I play.

Yes, and no. Most people want 10x experience or instant 60/70/80. I can understand 2x weekends for Vanilla, that's a much more tedious grind than you'd likely remember, but the customized progression bypass shit irritates the fuck out of me. I want to play Vanilla and BC because I want to play Vanilla and BC, not some modern instant gratification version of Vanilla and BC.

Blizzard's stance on official time-locked servers is more than a little irritating.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #28 on:** March 17, 2013, 01:34:10 PM »

How do private servers work? Are they popular, and are they free lol?

Freyj · « **Reply #29 on:** March 17, 2013, 01:42:05 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 17, 2013, 01:34:10 PM

How do private servers work? Are they popular, and are they free lol?

Server emulation via MaNGOS, etc.

You download whatever version of WoW you need, register on the server's site, edit realmlist.wtf, and off you go. Most should be free, the more popular ones are usually the instant gratification types. I've never seen a Blizzlike rate server get above 350 or so population.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #30 on:** March 17, 2013, 05:32:04 PM »

Back when I messed with private servers dungeons and raids didn't work; have they finally fixed that?

Freyj · « **Reply #31 on:** March 17, 2013, 07:00:51 PM »

Varies. Private Servers have only really reached a point where they were even playable in the last year and a half or so (mostly thanks to the work done by the mangos team).

Most have MC and ZG, some have BWL, less have AQ and Naxx. Content has to be released alongside server progression. There's too many itemization issues in MC and ZG (and to a lesser degree BWL) to open up AQ20 for instance.

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #32 on:** March 17, 2013, 07:08:22 PM »

The best (i.e. most populated and well-scripted) private "Blizzlike" vanilla and BC servers I've found are the level 60 Warsong and level 70 Archangel servers run by the people at wow-one.com. By default the XP gain rates are 12x and 14x, respectively, but you can change your rate to 1x from the account panel on the site. I think that they ask for you to vote for them on one of those sever ranking sites but it takes like 10 seconds. Yes, it's free to play.

On the 60 server, ZG, AQ20, MC, Ony, BWL, AQ40, and the 5-man dungeons are all fully scripted. There are only three bosses in Naxx still not available. The server population peaks at ~3000 players daily. There are slightly more players on Horde.

The 70 server isn't quite as far along but still has all of Kara (minus chess event), all 5-mans and heroics, all of TK, and 5/7 SSC bosses. Arena is in S2 right now. Server pop hits ~2200-2500 players daily, and like Warsong, there are more Horde players.

They do have another new-ish 60 server that is 1x by default, Emerald Dream, but there isn't nearly as much content available, the population peaks at ~1000 or less, and development seems to have slowed down there.

As for how "Blizzlike" it truly is, I was one of those elitist jerk hardcore no-lifer feggets back in retail vanilla and BC, and I have no real complaints as far as how true to the experience the servers are. You can find videos of boss kills and PvP videos from these servers all over YouTube if you want to see for yourself.

Here and there you'll come across some minor bugs but nothing game-breaking. The bugs that bother me the most are the bugs that affect PvP. I do remember a handful (like 5 or less) of broken quests when I leveled on the 70 server last year but they are constantly fixing stuff. You can check out their bug trackers for both the 60 server and the 70 server if you're really curious.

I hear Molten WoW also has a nice, high-pop WotLK server too but that's about when WoW went to shit for me.

Anyway, I've been playing on these servers for like two years, so let me know if you guys are curious about anything

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #33 on:** March 17, 2013, 09:02:21 PM »

WOTLK was my favorite of the WoWs

Freyj · « **Reply #34 on:** March 17, 2013, 09:19:20 PM »

I know about Feenix, it's been the population king for a while now (even if it's more buggy than a number of other, less populated servers).

There are clear differences in an optional 1x server seeing as 99% of the population will go with whatever option gets them to the cap fastest: no one bothers with low level dungeons, few bother with professions, there's very little available on the AH below BRD level gear, the community certainly takes a hit, overall path of least resistance mentality, etc. I'm not saying that it's better to go to a server with a 1/10th of the population of Feenix as there are obvious disadvantages, but having to pick between the two is shitty.

Emerald Dream is a step in the right direction. I know of lot of Rebirth and Scriptcraft refugees fled there. Rebirth was the most fun I've had playing a Vanilla server, but I'm done rerolling over server/guild drama.

etiolate · « **Reply #35 on:** March 17, 2013, 10:44:16 PM »

Are these bugs specific to these private servers or are they the same ones that were in the game back then?

Freyj · « **Reply #36 on:** March 17, 2013, 10:59:41 PM »

Specific. All the server siding scripting.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #37 on:** March 17, 2013, 11:12:26 PM »

Is it just a bunch of lv60 players continuously running end game content, or is there a decent amount of people progressing 1-60/70? Sounds interesting but it could also be quite clique-y

OptimoPeach · « **Reply #38 on:** March 17, 2013, 11:13:57 PM »

It's definitely true that there isn't much 5-man action at the lower levels. I couldn't get groups for anything but SM or ZF before 60 when I did a 1x character on Warsong. There are 1x leveling guilds and such on both factions but I've never tried those.

I heard good things about Scriptcraft. I wasn't entirely sold on Emerald Dream mostly because the TBC server has really blown up since the new core and it seems like they're either stretching themselves too thin or just don't consider ED a top priority. I haven't played there in months, though.

Freyj · « **Reply #39 on:** March 17, 2013, 11:46:13 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 17, 2013, 11:12:26 PM

Is it just a bunch of lv60 players continuously running end game content, or is there a decent amount of people progressing 1-60/70? Sounds interesting but it could also be quite clique-y

1x is a lot more 1-60 than end game usually. You'll be surprised how slow 1x is.

14x / instant is just 60s running around doing raids and PvP.

FatalT · « **Reply #40 on:** March 20, 2013, 09:56:45 PM »

My warrior is 86 now and I created a priest that I got up to 13 tonight. I started the priest because leveling from 85-90 is taking forever and I wanted something to relax with. I'm enjoying Pandaria though, it's a really pretty landscape.

MyNameIsMethodis · « **Reply #41 on:** March 20, 2013, 10:29:45 PM »

healing dungeons is the funnest thing ever imho. it's just so calming until some cunt blames u for a wipe cuz theyre bad

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #42 on:** March 20, 2013, 11:37:59 PM »

I loved healing with my shaman. I could either sit back and spam chain heal, or be serious and try to have as little overheal as possible. Never got to heal a raid though, that would have been interesting.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #43 on:** March 23, 2013, 11:04:48 PM »

soo am I eligible for a scroll of rez

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #44 on:** March 24, 2013, 01:13:17 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 23, 2013, 11:04:48 PM

soo am I eligible for a scroll of rez

You have to have been inactive since before March 2012.

etiolate · « **Reply #45 on:** March 24, 2013, 02:15:47 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 23, 2013, 11:04:48 PM

soo am I eligible for a scroll of rez

omg :dude

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #46 on:** March 24, 2013, 02:34:35 AM »

oh well. I'm getting the urge, but not enough to pay
:smugfavre

ManaByte · « **Reply #47 on:** March 28, 2013, 11:21:48 AM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 24, 2013, 02:34:35 AM

oh well. I'm getting the urge, but not enough to pay
:smugfavre

Pandaria has DINOSAUR MOUNTS now.

FatalT · « **Reply #48 on:** March 30, 2013, 05:44:05 PM »

LEVEL 90 BITCHES WOOOOO!

ManaByte · « **Reply #49 on:** March 30, 2013, 10:04:37 PM »

Quote from: FatalT on March 30, 2013, 05:44:05 PM

LEVEL 90 BITCHES WOOOOO!

Now do it on the other faction for the achievement.

Then do a third for that achievement.

FatalT · « **Reply #50 on:** March 30, 2013, 10:10:30 PM »

Quote from: ManaByte on March 30, 2013, 10:04:37 PM

Quote from: FatalT on March 30, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
LEVEL 90 BITCHES WOOOOO!

Now do it on the other faction for the achievement.

Then do a third for that achievement.

Nah, I already started a priest with the same faction. Screw the Alliance.

ManaByte · « **Reply #51 on:** March 30, 2013, 10:16:25 PM »

Quote from: FatalT on March 30, 2013, 10:10:30 PM

Quote from: ManaByte on March 30, 2013, 10:04:37 PM
Quote from: FatalT on March 30, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
LEVEL 90 BITCHES WOOOOO!

Now do it on the other faction for the achievement.

Then do a third for that achievement.

Nah, I already started a priest with the same faction. Screw the Alliance.

90 Gnome Mage
90 Undead Warlock
89 Human Warrior
86 Blood Elf Rogue

Ever since you can have both factions on one server, no reason not to do both.

etiolate · « **Reply #52 on:** March 30, 2013, 11:17:44 PM »

I'm pretty sure "it's boring" is a reason.

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Author Topic: I reactivated my pre-BC WoW account today. (Read 2368 times)