Battlefield 4 (Winter Patch)

[Positive Touch]

before i played this game i wasnt aware that lag could even be an issue in gaming in 2013. with my 30mbps theres no reason this should feel exactly like playing counter-strike on my parents 28.8k. this game is complete and utter trash.

[Mupepe]

After putting my Xbox In a dmz, changing my NAT to moderate and reinstalling bf4 again I get into a game and it kicks me out half way through and now it won't even get to the menu before crashing to the dashboard

[Positive Touch]

traaaaaaash

[patrickula]

I've been loving this game on PC 

[Mupepe]

I managed to connect to a server and I stayed on it for the last two hours because I was afraid of leaving this game is so much fucking fun when it works but Christ I fear trying to play tomorrow

[tehjaybo]

Been loving this game on PS4.   






Xboned :drakesmug

[Stoney Mason]

Had a fun evening playing on xbox one and didn't crash but that doesn't mean anything regarding the patch. Some nights you rarely crash. Some nights you crash alot. There are so many variable crash bugs that you can never really predict how its going to go.

They didn't fix anything with the browser stuff. All that stuff is still broken. I assume this was mostly a stability patch based on the patch notes.

[Stoney Mason]

For what it's worth I hve noticed this same phenomena on xbox one with bf 4. I'm much much much better than I was in bf3 relative to the average player. It's funny how that works.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

He he...that's so true. I am always more afraid of christmas noons than happy.

[Eel O'Brian]

This fucking game never crashes when I'm sucking it up all over the place. Only when I'm stacking up unlocks and doing shit like squad wipes.

[Stoney Mason]

PC game update today.

The game update for PC is now live. Please read down below for change notes.

We’ve rolled out a new PC game update and will continue to make improvements based on your feedback. The update includes fixes with the aim to increase the general stability of the game, and eliminates bugs that you may have experienced. It also includes an improvement to the “Netcode”.

UPDATE: We have noticed that players who have SLI enabled on their graphics card may experience graphical flickering. Also, we're looking into the issue where the revive bar would get stuck on-screen in some instances. Both of these have our attention, and we're investigating them.

Dec 16 PC Game Update Notes
-Fix for a crash that would cause the game to stall, resulting in a sound loop. This should eliminate most of the problems relating to this.
-Fix for the SUAV (introduced in the China Rising expansion pack) not exploding when hitting enemy soldiers. While these indeed should be deadly, they were never designed for “roadkilling” opponents.
-Fixed one of the issues related to the so-called “Netcode” (see below for details).
-Fix for an issue where 4x the damage from a vehicle's minigun would be applied to the chest when a player had the Defense specialization equipped.
-Fix for player tags not always showing when needed to, resulting in players shooting team members.
-Fix for graphical flickering appearing on terrain.
-Fixed the instance where players suddenly would transition into Spectator Mode while playing the Defuse game mode.
-Fix for a Defuse bug where none of the teams would win a round by letting the timer run out.
-Fix for players getting stuck in the revive screen after being killed.
-Fix for players getting stuck in the kill camera after being revived.
-Fix for the game mode specific ribbons being counted twice in the multiplayer progression.
-Made NVidia 331.82 or later driver versions mandatory for all players.
-Disabled DirectX 11.1 on NVidia cards that have outdated drivers.
-Fixed driver version not being properly detected on NVidia Optimus systems.
-Fixed a minor crash that could occur when bringing up the scoreboard.

“Netcode” improvement
We’ve addressed the so-called “Kill trading”. This refers to when two players fire at each other and, seemingly, both die at the same time. The time window where a bullet could cause damage from an already dead player is now calculated as intended, decreasing the timeframe when players with high latency could get a kill, even though they should be dead according to the server.

[Eel O'Brian]

Also, helicopter pilots, how about not freaking out and bailing just because you took a single hit

[Stoney Mason]

My latest pet peeve is that the assignment for the f2000 is of course bugged on the second assault dlc. Assignments are something you are supposed to be able to do over multiple games. But instead you have to get 2 kill assist ribbons in one game on metro which is 12 kill assists which is harder than it sounds. Especially annoying since the f2000 was my favorite gun in bf 3.

[Eel O'Brian]

I still have a lot of fun when I'm not crashing.  Just played a game where the squad leader was complaining about our performance and how we were all getting in his way, even though he never issued a single order or, you know, led the squad in any perceptible way. I purposely withheld ammo and healing from him. You want to play alone, champ, then play alone.

[tehjaybo]

Also, helicopter pilots, how about not freaking out and bailing just because you took a single hit

I can't fucking STAND THIS.  If I'm obviously not in the gunner seat, I'm an engineer in the side seat, and have my repair torch out, DONT FUCKING BAIL.  I think the worst thing ever is the guys that grab a chopper away from someone that actually enjoys flying, just to fly to the middle of the map and then bail out, leaving the other four people that spawned in the chopper to die if they don't realize that you bailed.  FUCK YOU, GUY.  That's ALL that was happening last night on rush.  I got so pissed.

[fistfulofmetal]

Most people don't understand how mobility hits work. So when the chopper gets hit and it instantly starts to fall out of the sky, people panic. Obviously a decent pilot should be able to recover but a lot of people can't.

[Mupepe]

Ohhhhh.  The torch is for fixing stuff.  Man I suck so bad at this game

Actually I'm not too bad.  I was happy when I came in fifth yesterday with a score of like 9k. 

[Eel O'Brian]

At best I'm a mediocre player, but there's things I try to do during the match like swapping classes as needed (except for recon, I dislike recon), repairing vehicles, tossing out med packs and ammo, laying down suppressing fire, etc. You learn as you go. If someone on the squad is taking it too seriously and raging the whole time I usually just leave that squad (not that I am above that, sometimes I involuntarily go Tourette's when I'm getting chewed up). My worst habit is probably spawning in on a squad member just in time to get killed by whoever just killed him/her.

"One of my dudes is in trouble! I better click over there and give some backu-"
 :deadpos

[Mupepe]

   I do that a lot too.  I try to change classes based on how the other team is playing.  If they're going all out assault rambo style then I usually go support with the LMG and mow them down.  I'm learning though.  I just found out how to throw out ammo and health yesterday and I found out that sitting next to health heals you.  I'd been trying to pick it up this whole time. 

[Eel O'Brian]

I wish they'd bring back bot matches, those were always good for learning the map layouts in BF1942. I always just do Quick Match, and last night I got dropped into the railroad map, which I'd somehow never played before, so I was just running around all over the place with no clue.

[Stoney Mason]

  I do that a lot too.  I try to change classes based on how the other team is playing.  If they're going all out assault rambo style then I usually go support with the LMG and mow them down.  I'm learning though.  I just found out how to throw out ammo and health yesterday and I found out that sitting next to health heals you.  I'd been trying to pick it up this whole time.

I didn't realize so many people were new to Battlefield. I would have posted a newbie guide video. If you have any questions just ask. I'll look for a decent one to post.

(except for recon, I dislike recon)

Recon isn't so bad especially now that you can run smgs with them. The motion sensor balls are very useful as is the PLD if you are running in a squad with an engineer. Or the radio beacon in rush.

As a general rule, the assault, and the engineer are the most common/useful classes but the other too are useful in situations also.

[Mupepe]

Well then I have what is potentially a really, really stupid question.  I keep earning upgrades by getting promoted, but how do I apply those to my weapons?  Is it done automatically?  Furthermore, how do I change what weapons I use when I deploy for each class?  I assume I can customize this option?

[tehjaybo]

Well then I have what is potentially a really, really stupid question.  I keep earning upgrades by getting promoted, but how do I apply those to my weapons?  Is it done automatically?  Furthermore, how do I change what weapons I use when I deploy for each class?  I assume I can customize this option?

At the spawn screen, you can change all of your settings.  Or, you can use Battlelog and go to the Loadout screen.  You can change all of your guns there, and when you select a gun, you can then change any addons you have.  I may boot up Fraps and make a little video sometime if you like. 

[Mupepe]

That would be awesome!

[drew]

mups, when you're in the spawn screen STOP, don't spawn, take a look around, notice the button prompts at the bottom of the screen.  the easiest thing to miss from this point on is that you press X to customize a weapon.

[drew]

anyways, pps in the wild , spoilered because FUCK HUEG jpeg...

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[tehjaybo]

Since I've apparently grown computer illiterate in my old age, I have no idea how to actually make videos anymore on the PC.  So, I just made SWEEET ASS MSPAINT SCREENSHOTS TO EXPLAIN!

This is the Battlelog method of changing your loadouts.  You can do it much easier in game, but this way is a lot more informative.

Step 1.  Go to battlelog.battlefield.com/bf4    Log in with your Origin ID. 

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Step 2.  Hover over the 'Soldier' button, and go down to 'Loadout'.

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Step 3.  Select the weapon on the class that you'd like to change.  In this case, I selected my rifle on my Recon class.

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Step 4.  Choose the weapon that you prefer.  Hovering over the weapon should list its stats, allowing you to choose the best weapon for what you want to do.  Click the gear to modify the attachments for each weapon.

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Step 5.  Choose your attachments, and click save. 

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Step 6.  Shoot baddies in the face with properly modified weapons.

[drew]

not a lot going on in Kentucky these days, huh?

also the year of our Lord Two Thousand the Thirteenth, not using Google Chrome...

[drew]

at LEAST hide those toolbars, you disgust me...

[Mupepe]

Thank you! Time to kick it up a notch

[tehjaybo]

I used Chrome on my laptop and got really used to it when I didn't use my desktop for a year or so, but since I got my desktop back up and on the network, Firefox was just the first thing that came up and I started using it again.  As you can see at the bottom, I still have Chrome if I want to use it.  But meh.  And I love my toolbars!   

Also, no, not that much going on.  Plus it took all of about five minutes or so, so no big deal.  Especially if it helps my friends.

[Stoney Mason]

Also Mupepe make sure you open the battlepacks you earn if you haven't already. Those also unlock attachments for your weapons.

A couple of beginner videos.


In general watching good players like rivalxfactor and levelcap on youtube goes a long way towards improving your game. Even though they play on PC, the tips and tactics they give are universal to any version of the game.

[G The Resurrected]

Has anyone else used the commander app? Holy fuck balls that shit is intense. I don't think I stopped moving my stylus at all during the last few matches after I figured it out. I don't know how some of the other commanders are getting their insane scores.

[tehjaybo]

I wish I had a tablet compatible with it...  I've been wanting to check it out.  I was hoping that the Vita would work with it.

[Mupepe]

I couldn't get into any games last night.  But I was able to go and set my weapons.  Goddamn this game.

[tehjaybo]

I think they were working on Rush servers last night, because I couldn't hit a rush map but I got into a few Conquest games.  Had ONE good match where I was actually getting team support.  Every time I would get a scout chopper, I had a guy that would spawn to me to repair my chopper and shoot IGLAs out the side at other choppers.  I went 19-4, and only killed when I was in the air.  It was fantastic.

[Stoney Mason]

PS4 version got an update today. It adds servers queues. Not sure what else it does as DICE haven't put up patch notes yet.

edit: 360 also appears to have gotten one.

Today non-premium members should also be able to download China Rising.

[drew]

108 KB download? that means it's just an unlock for what shipped on the disc, how lame.

edit: nvm that was just for the free code that came with my copy

[Stoney Mason]

Patches notes for the updates today. This is essentially the PC patch of a couple of days ago.

December 17 PlayStation 4 Patch Notes

Reduced the probability of the “Kill trade” issue (see below for details).
Fixed a common crash that could occur during round transition.
Fixed a crash that could happen for players that had lots of friends.
Fixed a problem where the “end of round” screen was adding up scores several times in the rank bar, resulting in the rank bar showing a higher value or rank than players really had.
Fix for the game mode specific ribbons being counted twice in the multiplayer progression.
Fix for a graphical glitch that could appear on terrain.
Fixed an engine audio dropout that could happen when driving IFV’s.
Fix for a camera glitch that could occur when players were switching weapons while moving in crouched stance.
Fixed an animation bug for passengers on the China Rising dirt bike to make sure that the character is pointing in the direction where the player is actually aiming.
Fix for an issue where 4x the damage from a vehicle’s minigun would be applied to the chest when a player had the Defense specialization equipped.
Tweaked the War Tape audio setting to remove distortion.
Fix for the SUAV (introduced in the China Rising expansion pack) not exploding when hitting enemy soldiers. While these indeed should be deadly, they were never designed for “roadkilling” opponents.
Servers with users playing on them are now by default placed on the top in the Server Browser.
Servers that friends are playing on have a higher priority in the server list.
Server Browser is no longer showing empty or full servers by default.
Servers that are completely empty will be shown only when the “Empty” option is checked in the Server Browser filter.
Server Browser filter will count a server as full if all “Soldier” slots are occupied, unless the “Free Commander” slot is checked.
Balancing jet handling across all stealth and attack jet classes.
Fixed a bug in Defuse mode where defenders could win a round by killing all the attackers without disarming the bomb. If the attackers arm the bomb, the defenders need to disarm it to win, even if they have killed all the attackers.
Fix for players getting stuck in the revive screen.
Fix for players getting stuck in the kill camera after being revived. Note that you might see a graphical bug on-screen after being revived when accepting a revive within 1 second. This graphical bug will be removed in the next patch.
Fix for a Defuse bug where none of the teams would win a round by letting the timer run out.
Fixed the instance where players suddenly would transition into Spectator Mode while playing the Defuse game mode.
Fix for the death camera/screen being displayed too early.
Raised the first-person camera slightly for walking in crouch to more accurately reflect the actual position of the character.
Lowered IED explosion sound to not bottom out the HDR.
General stability improvements.
Kill trading issue

We’ve addressed the so-called “Kill trading”. This refers to when two players fire at each other and, seemingly, both die at the same time. The time window where a bullet could cause damage from an already dead player is now calculated as intended, decreasing the time frame when players with high latency could get a kill, even though they should be dead according to the server. This should reduce the probability of kill trading.

December 17 PlayStation 3 Patch Notes

General stability improvements.
Fixed one of the most frequently occurring crashes that could happen during round transition.
Reduced the probability of the “Kill trade” issue (see below for details).
Fixed a crash that could occur when bringing up the scoreboard.
Fix for player tags not always showing quickly enough. This could often lead to confusion or team kills on Hardcore servers.
Populated servers are now by default placed on the top in the Server Browser, where previously empty servers would be shown.
Servers that friends are playing on have a higher priority in the server list.
Fixed the instance where players suddenly would transition into Spectator Mode while playing the Defuse game mode.
Fix for players getting stuck in the revive screen after being killed.
Fix for players getting stuck in the kill camera after being revived. Note that you might see a graphical bug on-screen after being revived when accepting a revive within 1 second. This graphical bug will be removed in the next patch.
Fix for the death camera/screen being displayed too early.
Fix for a Defuse bug where none of the teams would win a round by letting the timer runs out.
Fix for the SUAV (introduced in the China Rising expansion pack) not exploding when hitting enemy soldiers. While these indeed should be deadly, they were never designed for “road killing” opponents.
Fix for an issue where 4x the damage from a vehicle’s miniguns would be applied to the chest when a player had the Defense specialization equipped.
Balanced vehicle miniguns to do more damage versus infantry.
Fix for the game mode specific ribbons being counted twice in the multiplayer progression.
Fixed a bug in Defuse mode where defenders could win a round by killing all the attackers without disarming the bomb. If the attackers arm the bomb, the defenders need to disarm it to win, even if they have killed all the attackers.
Fixed an issue where players could get stuck in infinite loading when connecting to a server.
Fix for side gunners in attack boats and transport helicopters experiencing jitter when aiming.
Fixed the issue with Levolution events sometimes not being triggered properly when playing the Rush, Defuse, Obliteration and Team/Squad Deathmatch game modes.
Removed the SCAR-H and Ace 52 damage tweaks that were included in a previous patch.
Kill trading issue

We’ve addressed the so-called “Kill trading”. This refers to when two players fire at each other and, seemingly, both die at the same time. The time window where a bullet could cause damage from an already dead player is now calculated as intended, decreasing the timeframe when players with high latency could get a kill, even though they should be dead according to the server. This should reduce the probability of kill trading.

December 17 Xbox 360 Patch Notes

General stability improvements.
Fixed one of the most frequently occurring crashes that could happen during round transition.
Reduced the probability of the “Kill trade” issue (see below for details).
Fixed a crash that could occur when bringing up the scoreboard.
Fix for player tags not always showing quickly enough. This could often lead to confusion or team kills on Hardcore servers.
Populated servers are now by default placed on the top in the Server Browser, where previously empty servers would be shown.
Servers that friends are playing on have a higher priority in the server list.
Fixed the instance where players suddenly would transition into Spectator Mode while playing the Defuse game mode.
Fix for players getting stuck in the revive screen after being killed.
Fix for players getting stuck in the kill camera after being revived. Note that you might see a graphical bug on-screen after being revived when accepting a revive within 1 second. This graphical bug will be removed in the next patch.
Fix for the death camera/screen being displayed too early.
Fix for a Defuse bug where none of the teams would win a round by letting the timer runs out.
Fix for the SUAV (introduced in the China Rising expansion pack) not exploding when hitting enemy soldiers. While these indeed should be deadly, they were never designed for “road killing” opponents.
Fix for an issue where 4x the damage from a vehicle’s miniguns would be applied to the chest when a player had the Defense specialization equipped.
Balanced vehicle miniguns to do more damage versus infantry.
Fix for the game mode specific ribbons being counted twice in the multiplayer progression.
Fixed a bug in Defuse mode where defenders could win a round by killing all the attackers without disarming the bomb. If the attackers arm the bomb, the defenders need to disarm it to win, even if they have killed all the attackers.
Fixed an issue where players could get stuck in infinite loading when connecting to a server.
Fix for side gunners in attack boats and transport helicopters experiencing jitter when aiming.
Fixed the issue with Levolution events sometimes not being triggered properly when playing the Rush, Defuse, Obliteration and Team/Squad Deathmatch game modes.
Removed the SCAR-H and Ace 52 damage tweaks that were included in a previous patch.
Kill trading issue

We’ve addressed the so-called “Kill trading”. This refers to when two players fire at each other and, seemingly, both die at the same time. The time window where a bullet could cause damage from an already dead player is now calculated as intended, decreasing the timeframe when players with high latency could get a kill, even though they should be dead according to the server. This should reduce the probability of kill trading.

[Stoney Mason]

Finally dragged myself through the bf 4 campaign on xbox to get the 3 weapon unlocks I already had on PC. It was brutal playing that awful thing again. I snapped the TV app on screen and just watched that with the game sound muted so I could put my brain on auto-pilot and not have to hear the awful dialogue.

As usual bugs.

[Mupepe]

What weapons are unlocked? MP is unplayable for me lately.  I might just power through the craptastic campaign

[Stoney Mason]

M412 Rex Pistol which is crap.

The rest are decent to good.

QBZ-95-1
P90
M249

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ASSIGNMENT   DESCRIPTION   WEAPON AWARDED
        
Tombstone Actual   Complete Baku   M412 Rex
Fang of the Underworld   Complete Kunlun Mountains   Shank
A Trapped Wolf   Complete Tashgar   Machete
To Valhalla   Choose to sacrifice the Valkyrie   QBZ-95-1
Peace Maker   Choose to sacrifice Hannah   P90
Final Duty   Choose to sacrifice Irish   M249

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[Stoney Mason]

Sorry. I should have spoilered it. I just figured anybody who actually wanted to play that turd of a campaign had already finished it.

[Mupepe]

Man. I got into a couple of games with a good team and commander. A good commander makes a huge difference. And because or that I was scoring left and right. Not to mention my weapons are much better now with add ons and accessories

[tehjaybo]

Another night playing alone, no one repairing.  Sucked it up consistently.  Very sad day.

I need a

[chronovore]

Crazy heli hijack.

I dropped in here to post that!

The hop-out, rocket, re-pilot is the one that made me crazy. The dude with the sniper shots and elevator kills was also really impressive.

[Stoney Mason]

xbox one patch that the others got earlier in the week.

We’ve rolled out a new Xbox One game update and will continue to make improvements based on your feedback. The update includes fixes with the aim to increase the general stability of the game, and eliminates bugs that you may have experienced.

Dec 19 Xbox One Game Update Notes
-Reduced the probability of the “Kill trade” issue (see below for details).
-Fixed a common crash that could occur during gameplay.
-Fixed an issue that could corrupt save files in the single player campaign.
-Fix for the game mode specific ribbons being counted twice in the multiplayer progression.
-Fix for a graphical glitch that could appear on terrain.
-Fix for the SUAV (introduced in the China Rising expansion pack) not exploding when hitting enemy soldiers. While these indeed should be deadly, they were never designed for “roadkilling” opponents.
-Fix for an issue where 4x the damage from a vehicle's minigun would be applied to the chest when a player had the Defense specialization equipped.
-Servers that friends are playing on now have a higher priority in the server list.
-Server Browser is no longer showing empty or full servers by default.
-Balancing jet handling across all stealth and attack jet classes.
-Fixed a bug in Defuse mode where defenders could win a round by killing all the attackers without disarming the bomb. If the attackers arm the bomb, the defenders need to disarm it to win, even if they have killed all the attackers.
-Fix for a Defuse bug where none of the teams would win a round by letting the timer run out.
-Fix for players getting stuck in the revive screen.
-Fix for players getting stuck in the kill camera after being revived. Note that you might see a graphical bug on-screen after being revived when accepting a revive within 1 second. This graphical bug will be removed in the next patch.
-Fixed the instance where players suddenly would transition into Spectator Mode while playing the Defuse game mode.
-Fix for the death camera/screen being displayed too early.
-Raised the first-person camera slightly for walking in crouch to more accurately reflect the actual position of the character.
-Fixed an issue with the party chat app not working.
-Fixed an issue in the in-game Battlelog where non-ASCII characters would display incorrectly.
-Fixed an issue when maps were not loading properly while player didn’t have the game in full screen.

Kill trading issue
We’ve addressed the so-called “Kill trading”. This refers to when two players fire at each other and, seemingly, both die at the same time. The time window where a bullet could cause damage from an already dead player is now calculated as intended, decreasing the time frame when players with high latency could get a kill, even though they should be dead according to the server. This should reduce the probability of kill trading.

[Eel O'Brian]

Had some good games today, down to less than 50 tickets left win/loss. Finally starting to get a grasp on the plusses and minuses of different weapon and attachment combinations.

[Rahxephon91]

We gotta set up a PC play date.

[SantaC]

godly SRAW player.

[Stoney Mason]

The SRAW has become my favorite rocket launcher. Not that I'm constantly hitting youtube worthy clips with it or anything but I have managed a few helicopter hits which I can never do with none lock on type launchers.

[Mupepe]

Man the new Xbox one patch actually fixed my issue with joining games. Aw snap

[Mupepe]

Hey guys. How do I use my +50%XP bonus stuff? I found it before but can't now

[fistfulofmetal]

Hey guys. How do I use my +50%XP bonus stuff? I found it before but can't now

it's in the pause menu on PC

[Mupepe]

Damn. Not on x1

[Stoney Mason]

Hey guys. How do I use my +50%XP bonus stuff? I found it before but can't now

[Mupepe]

Gracias senor
tonight was so good. Got so many upgrades and only had one crash. Damn i love this game. This is the first shooter I've ever actually put time into with multiplayer

[tehjaybo]

Gonna play for a few minutes since I have to open in the morning, hoping for a good match or two.

[Stoney Mason]

Gracias senor
tonight was so good. Got so many upgrades and only had one crash. Damn i love this game. This is the first shooter I've ever actually put time into with multiplayer

The first Battlefield game you become addicted to is always kind of a special thing. There is something about the experiences which is a sort of organized chaos that you can't really get in any other shooter. COD is fun but its nothing like what battlefield can feel like when its right. Nothing is really like that. Even Planetside which has higher player counts but often just feels like a random disjointed mess.

It's why I always come back to the game. Even when its a shitty launch, and the game is a buggy mess. All it takes is one good evening to bring me back and remember why its a great experience because there is still nothing like it out there really. 

[Rahxephon91]

First Battlefield I really played(Played 1 night of BF2 before getting an ok PC) was Modern Combat on the Xbox. I don't care what anyone says, that game was great. Yeah some of the gunplay was meh, but man the maps! I love BF because of the maps, they aren't just open and big, but also have things in them that make them exciting. Maybe it's the bridge in A Bride too far or just the way buildings are deigned that make them awesome choke points. Whatever it is, I don't think any mp game comes close. I actually think up until 3's DLC the map design has been lacking. 2 and MC had great maps. 4 is a return to form though.