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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #60 on: March 26, 2013, 10:42:08 PM »
Why do people post like they know what goes on in board meetings at listed companies?



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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #61 on: March 26, 2013, 10:52:47 PM »
Sorry I didn't mean DC, I meant you as a general term about that other place
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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #62 on: March 26, 2013, 11:41:00 PM »
I can tell you guys that the board meetings for social game companies aren't that interesting at all.

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #63 on: March 27, 2013, 12:39:39 AM »
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oh, no, for *that* you need to also have boobs and a very debonair stache.

i'm half way there .... still working on the stache :/

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #64 on: March 27, 2013, 02:19:46 AM »
What were the targets?

Never mind, found it myself (well, not the targets, but still...):
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http://www.vg247.com/2013/03/26/square-financials-tomb-raider-hitman-sleeping-dogs-fail-to-hit-sales-targets/

Full pdf: http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/130326slides.pdf Doesn't mention specific targets, but if those numbers aren't enough...

I saw those sales numbers and was also wondering what they expected sales to be. I'm stunned that Sleeping Dogs did as well as it has; it's a great game, but it's a hard sell. Tomb Raider's numbers are great, so I'm not sure what they were expecting, other than having Christ show up and resurrect dead consumers.

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #65 on: March 27, 2013, 02:26:05 AM »
What were the targets?

Never mind, found it myself (well, not the targets, but still...):
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http://www.vg247.com/2013/03/26/square-financials-tomb-raider-hitman-sleeping-dogs-fail-to-hit-sales-targets/

Full pdf: http://www.hd.square-enix.com/eng/news/pdf/130326slides.pdf Doesn't mention specific targets, but if those numbers aren't enough...

I saw those sales numbers and was also wondering what they expected sales to be. I'm stunned that Sleeping Dogs did as well as it has; it's a great game, but it's a hard sell. Tomb Raider's numbers are great, so I'm not sure what they were expecting, other than having Christ show up and resurrect dead consumers.

And Hitman: Absolution is a few thousand away from being the best selling in the series [just behind 2002's Hitman 2, at 3.7 million].
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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #66 on: March 27, 2013, 02:39:10 AM »
They are always expecting COD like sales.

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #67 on: March 27, 2013, 02:46:12 AM »
It's nice to want things.
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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #68 on: March 27, 2013, 03:05:25 AM »
It's nice to want things.
Yeah, I keep hoping for Doraemon's Dokodemo Door to appear under my Christmas tree. So far, 12 years of wishing hasn't made it so.

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #69 on: March 27, 2013, 03:56:37 AM »
I interpreted those slides as meaning that those numbers were the targets, and they didn't meet them (the actual numbers not being shown) - is that wrong?
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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #70 on: March 27, 2013, 04:39:42 AM »
That's what I assumed at first as well, but the footnote mentions that download sales aren't included, which up to now made me think those were sales(+projections for 2013?). Now you're confusing me all over again.
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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #71 on: March 27, 2013, 05:07:19 AM »
If a game sells multi-millions and you still take a loss on it, something has gone wrong.

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #72 on: March 27, 2013, 06:45:00 AM »
It was the night before the Final Fantasy XIII Xbox 360 announcement and Yoichi Wada was in a motel bathroom in the outskirts of L.A. with a gun in his mouth.  Known amongst industry insiders as "The Million Year Long Night,"  it was at this time that Wada had realized just how over budget the FFXIII project was.   He had given in to the American intruder on the games market.  Wada had resisted them for one gen, but the board hounded him to submit after Kutaragi's final error.  "I will never give in!  My father would never allow it!" he'd shout at them in fits of rage during the more tense meetings.  But the stubborn board was more interested in money and NPD numbers.  Wada never quite fully shifted over to the idea of supporting the 360, even after the company released some titles on it.  He'd defend the 100 copies of Infinite Undiscovery sold worldwide by saying that Playstation gamers had taste and it would have sold half as much on the PS3.  He had even given them an online Final Fantasy title, knowing he could still write it off as "not a true FF game." 

But now, the last threads of attachment to Square-Enix and this Earth slipped through Wada's fingers.  He held his composure long enough, green-lighting production of the title through clenched teeth.  The project had suffered enough setbacks.  After they found out a member of the localization staff had been seduced by a NeoGAF moderator, who was printing vague details about when the next trailer might be shown on her blog, production came to a halt for 2 years.  In fact, the only thing that unfroze it was the decision to make a 360 version. 

The trigger on the pistol cocked back and immediately after, his cellphone rang.  Wada, with tears in his eyes knowing that fate was intervening in his departure from waking life, looked down at his phone.  It was Nomura. 

"Hey buddy, I know how you feel.  Don't worry, we'll get through this.  And besides, we're gonna make it 3 discs and run at a lower resolution with shitty FMV.  The Americans won't know the difference." 

Wada had to admit he was relieved.  He put the gun away and went to sleep.  He would head for E3 at the break of daylight the next morning.

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #73 on: March 27, 2013, 09:04:25 AM »
Only Sleeping Dogs seems low, then again its a Asian centric game in looks etc.

Hitman doesn't seem bad for Hitman, and TR seems a hit to me.

Think about what that means about Tomb Raider's budget.

Damn. As Chrono said they must have had some insane expectations and budget.

Isn't this the best selling Tomb Raider in ages? Something is very wrong when beating your own sales record is not enough to turn a profit, that is entirely the managements/CEO fault.
« Last Edit: March 27, 2013, 09:06:02 AM by Premium Lager »

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #74 on: March 27, 2013, 09:24:11 AM »
It was the night before the Final Fantasy XIII Xbox 360 announcement and Yoichi Wada was in a motel bathroom in the outskirts of L.A. with a gun in his mouth.  Known amongst industry insiders as "The Million Year Long Night,"  it was at this time that Wada had realized just how over budget the FFXIII project was.   He had given in to the American intruder on the games market.  Wada had resisted them for one gen, but the board hounded him to submit after Kutaragi's final error.  "I will never give in!  My father would never allow it!" he'd shout at them in fits of rage during the more tense meetings.  But the stubborn board was more interested in money and NPD numbers.  Wada never quite fully shifted over to the idea of supporting the 360, even after the company released some titles on it.  He'd defend the 100 copies of Infinite Undiscovery sold worldwide by saying that Playstation gamers had taste and it would have sold half as much on the PS3.  He had even given them an online Final Fantasy title, knowing he could still write it off as "not a true FF game." 

But now, the last threads of attachment to Square-Enix and this Earth slipped through Wada's fingers.  He held his composure long enough, green-lighting production of the title through clenched teeth.  The project had suffered enough setbacks.  After they found out a member of the localization staff had been seduced by a NeoGAF moderator, who was printing vague details about when the next trailer might be shown on her blog, production came to a halt for 2 years.  In fact, the only thing that unfroze it was the decision to make a 360 version. 

The trigger on the pistol cocked back and immediately after, his cellphone rang.  Wada, with tears in his eyes knowing that fate was intervening in his departure from waking life, looked down at his phone.  It was Nomura. 

"Hey buddy, I know how you feel.  Don't worry, we'll get through this.  And besides, we're gonna make it 3 discs and run at a lower resolution with shitty FMV.  The Americans won't know the difference." 

Wada had to admit he was relieved.  He put the gun away and went to sleep.  He would head for E3 at the break of daylight the next morning.

I was almost through the first paragraph before I realized I wasn't supposed to be reading this to the tune of "Twas the Night  Before Christmas".
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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #75 on: March 27, 2013, 10:17:00 AM »
I interpreted those slides as meaning that those numbers were the targets, and they didn't meet them (the actual numbers not being shown) - is that wrong?

Those are actual sales, as far as I can tell.

Isn't this the best selling Tomb Raider in ages? Something is very wrong when beating your own sales record is not enough to turn a profit, that is entirely the managements/CEO fault.

So far, it's second only to 2006's Tomb Raider: Legend among Crystal Dynamics' four entries in the franchise, which hit 4.5 million. And those 3.4 million sales are from just one month, so it's going to end up selling more than that.
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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #76 on: April 01, 2013, 10:41:41 PM »




Targets:

Tomb Raider: 5 to 6 million
Hitman: Absolution: 4.5 to 5 million
Sleeping Dogs: 2 to 2.5 million

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #77 on: April 02, 2013, 02:13:31 AM »
Targets:

Tomb Raider: 5 to 6 million
Hitman: Absolution: 4.5 to 5 million
Sleeping Dogs: 2 to 2.5 million

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #78 on: April 03, 2013, 07:47:51 AM »
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/04/02/square-enixs-new-president-plans-to-review-the-entire-company/
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In a recent Square Enix Holdings briefing session, the to-be president, Yosuke Matsuda, talked about his plans for the company:

 “After having succeeded the important role as the president, I plan on reviewing all Square Enix duties, business and assets on a zero-based budgeting standpoint. Due to the radical change of environment, I’d like to fundamentally review what works and what doesn’t work for our company, then cast all of our resources towards extending what makes us successful and thoroughly squeezing out what doesn’t.

As far as a concrete plan on what to expect from us, I will further explain it on another briefing session in the near future, so I kindly ask for your patience. Thank you for your support.”

 Matsuda also mentions his plans to make Phil Rogers, CEO of Square Enix Europe, the new director of Square Enix Holdings. The two will act as the renovating pillars of Square Enix.
 
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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #79 on: April 03, 2013, 10:33:36 AM »
"We've looked over our projects and compared them with the current market climate...FFXV will be a modern military FPS F2P mmorpg for the iphone."  :derp

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #80 on: April 03, 2013, 10:46:18 AM »
"We've looked over our projects and compared them with the current market climate...FFXV will be a modern military FPS F2P mmorpg for the iphone."  :derp

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Re: Square CEO (Yoichi Wada) steps down.
« Reply #81 on: April 03, 2013, 11:25:55 AM »
"We've looked over our projects and compared them with the current market climate...FFXV will be a modern military FPS F2P mmorpg for the iphone."  :derp

What I am expecting more or less
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