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Joss Whedon's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
« on: May 13, 2013, 10:23:54 AM »


Most people are thinking, based on that trailer, that J. August Richards is playing
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« Reply #1 on: May 13, 2013, 10:32:30 AM »
Poor Luke Cage.  Shafted on a movie and put on TV instead.  The man keeping the black superheroes down.   :-\
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« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2013, 10:41:07 AM »
Poor Luke Cage.  Shafted on a movie and put on TV instead.  The man keeping the black superheroes down.   :-\

They start filming Black Panther late next year. Possible cameo in Avengers 2.
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« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2013, 10:47:05 AM »
Poor Luke Cage.  Shafted on a movie and put on TV instead.  The man keeping the black superheroes down.   :-\

They start filming Black Panther late next year. Possible cameo in Avengers 2.

Watch him get played by a white guy.

I feel like this series is going to bite them in the ass somehow.

Yup, feel the same way.  I wonder how they will explain Coulson being back?  Life model decoy (LOL)?
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2013, 10:51:54 AM »
You know, we have a catch all thread for unimportant bullshit like this :smug
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« Reply #5 on: May 13, 2013, 11:09:40 AM »
Poor Luke Cage.  Shafted on a movie and put on TV instead.  The man keeping the black superheroes down.   :-\

They start filming Black Panther late next year. Possible cameo in Avengers 2.

Watch him get played by a white guy.

I feel like this series is going to bite them in the ass somehow.

Yup, feel the same way.  I wonder how they will explain Coulson being back?  Life model decoy (LOL)?

It's already been revealed...

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You never saw his corpse in The Avengers. Fury faked his death to give The Avengers the push they needed. He had him moved to a secure facility where he recovered and now he's back.
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Re: Joss Whedon's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
« Reply #6 on: May 13, 2013, 11:14:16 AM »
It's already been revealed...

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You never saw his corpse in The Avengers. Fury faked his death to give The Avengers the push they needed. He had him moved to a secure facility where he recovered and now he's back.
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« Reply #7 on: May 13, 2013, 11:52:23 AM »

It's already been revealed...
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You never saw his corpse in The Avengers. Fury faked his death to give The Avengers the push they needed. He had him moved to a secure facility where he recovered and now he's back.
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« Reply #8 on: May 13, 2013, 12:43:18 PM »

It's already been revealed...
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You never saw his corpse in The Avengers. Fury faked his death to give The Avengers the push they needed. He had him moved to a secure facility where he recovered and now he's back.
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Re: Joss Whedon's Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.
« Reply #9 on: May 13, 2013, 12:49:26 PM »
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« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2013, 03:14:24 PM »
What the fuck.
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« Reply #12 on: May 13, 2013, 03:18:30 PM »
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« Reply #13 on: May 13, 2013, 03:19:40 PM »
I just did.  Look at that awesomeness.  That was for Momo.  :expert
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« Reply #14 on: May 13, 2013, 04:26:34 PM »
From what I know of Luke Cage (and the rest of Heroes For Hire), he mostly dealt with street crime, which is a better fit for a TV series. I just hope he's a recurring character that SHIELD deals with regularly, rather than having him be a full fledged member, because that would seem contrary to his character to me.
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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2013, 04:27:42 PM »
From what I know of Luke Cage (and the rest of Heroes For Hire), he mostly dealt with street crime, which is a better fit for a TV series. I just hope he's a recurring character that SHIELD deals with regularly, rather than having him be a full fledged member, because that would seem contrary to his character to me.

But SHIELD is supposed to be above street-level crime.  And Luke Cage has been (was) in the Avengers for the last eight or so years.

If they do go that route, it's too bad that villains like Bullseye have already appeared in other Marvel flicks.
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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2013, 04:30:46 PM »
From what I know of Luke Cage (and the rest of Heroes For Hire), he mostly dealt with street crime, which is a better fit for a TV series. I just hope he's a recurring character that SHIELD deals with regularly, rather than having him be a full fledged member, because that would seem contrary to his character to me.

But SHIELD is supposed to be above street-level crime.  And Luke Cage has been (was) in the Avengers for the last eight or so years.

If they do go that route, it's too bad that villains like Bullseye have already appeared in other Marvel flicks.

Marvel has the rights back to Daredevil (which includes Bullseye and the Kingpin), Punisher, Blade, and Ghost Rider. So Bullseye can show up, and I wouldn't be surprised if they at least used Matt Murdock at some point.
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« Reply #17 on: May 13, 2013, 11:38:22 PM »
I just did.  Look at that awesomeness.  That was for Momo.  :expert
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« Reply #18 on: May 13, 2013, 11:39:53 PM »
This is the show thats going to ruin Marvel/Disney's cash cow, it's going to leave an awful taste in everyones mouth.

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2013, 01:31:48 AM »
Who knows maybe it'll be Whedon's first good show.
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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2013, 01:48:44 AM »
I hate you Diunx.

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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2013, 08:29:52 AM »
Who knows maybe it'll be Whedon's first good show.

And maybe you'll burn in a fire, you communist Whedon-hating bastard.
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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2013, 10:02:12 AM »
I feel like this series is going to bite them in the ass somehow.

That's only because there's a plethora of historic evidence for it.

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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2013, 04:21:03 PM »
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« Reply #24 on: May 16, 2013, 03:54:42 PM »
Marvel has the rights back to Daredevil (which includes Bullseye and the Kingpin), Punisher, Blade, and Ghost Rider. So Bullseye can show up, and I wouldn't be surprised if they at least used Matt Murdock at some point.

AFAIK, Marvel owns the TV rights to 100% of their characters. So there's nothing legally stopping them from introducing their own versions of Spider-Man, Wolverine, or the Fantastic Four on this show, though that's very unlikely to actually happen for obvious reasons.

Oh, and Richards isn't playing Cage. The quote here seems to imply as well that his character isn't black in the comics.

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IGN: And I’ve got to ask about J. August Richards…

Bell: Killed it! He’s so good. He’s so good, because we were looking for this character M-- I almost said his name. It’s not the one people are talking about.

[Editor's Note: Yes, it kind of sounded like Bell was about to say a name beginning with an M... but maybe he just made a strong "HMM" sound when he stopped himself! Ah, so much to ponder.]

IGN: He’s not! So I’m going to say Luke Cage, and you’re going to say...

Bell: I’m going to say that’s an interesting Marvel character, but no. But he came in and killed it. Honestly, we were looking for this part, and we just said, look, all our parts are open to all diversity. So the fact that we have a black dude who is awesome and it's J, was just because he was the best actor. It wasn’t like, “You know who…!”
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« Reply #25 on: May 16, 2013, 04:08:01 PM »
Marvel has the rights back to Daredevil (which includes Bullseye and the Kingpin), Punisher, Blade, and Ghost Rider. So Bullseye can show up, and I wouldn't be surprised if they at least used Matt Murdock at some point.

AFAIK, Marvel owns the TV rights to 100% of their characters. So there's nothing legally stopping them from introducing their own versions of Spider-Man, Wolverine, or the Fantastic Four on this show, though that's very unlikely to actually happen for obvious reasons.

Oh, and Richards isn't playing Cage. The quote here seems to imply as well that his character isn't black in the comics.


Well neither was Nick Fury until the Ultimate universe, and then when the movies became big they did the same thing in the 616 universe.
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« Reply #26 on: May 16, 2013, 05:00:53 PM »
Marvel has the rights back to Daredevil (which includes Bullseye and the Kingpin), Punisher, Blade, and Ghost Rider. So Bullseye can show up, and I wouldn't be surprised if they at least used Matt Murdock at some point.

AFAIK, Marvel owns the TV rights to 100% of their characters. So there's nothing legally stopping them from introducing their own versions of Spider-Man, Wolverine, or the Fantastic Four on this show, though that's very unlikely to actually happen for obvious reasons.

Oh, and Richards isn't playing Cage. The quote here seems to imply as well that his character isn't black in the comics.

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IGN: And I’ve got to ask about J. August Richards…

Bell: Killed it! He’s so good. He’s so good, because we were looking for this character M-- I almost said his name. It’s not the one people are talking about.

[Editor's Note: Yes, it kind of sounded like Bell was about to say a name beginning with an M... but maybe he just made a strong "HMM" sound when he stopped himself! Ah, so much to ponder.]

IGN: He’s not! So I’m going to say Luke Cage, and you’re going to say...

Bell: I’m going to say that’s an interesting Marvel character, but no. But he came in and killed it. Honestly, we were looking for this part, and we just said, look, all our parts are open to all diversity. So the fact that we have a black dude who is awesome and it's J, was just because he was the best actor. It wasn’t like, “You know who…!”

If he is Moon Knight I will actually fucking watch this show
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« Reply #27 on: May 20, 2013, 11:47:26 AM »
If he is Moon Knight I will actually fucking watch this show

Moon Knight doesn't have powers.

Well, he did at one point, but it would be very odd if that's the take they're going with.

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« Reply #28 on: May 20, 2013, 11:50:51 AM »
When did MK lose his powers? Isn't he like Batman, but with Egyptian mummy powers or something?