Xbone Reveal Official Thread

[Rahxephon91]

The IGN stream just said you have to pay to transfer your gamerscore to the Xbox One.

 

Well that's fucking dumb.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

To play a game you just bought for the Xbox One you need an active internet connection to install and play the game. You cannot start a game without an active internet connection. Much like Steam when you put the disc in the drive it reaches out to the internet and ties the game to your account then installs it. Games cannot be played without an install.

Lemme say that again.

You cannot play games on this without an active internet connection.
Single player games will continue to work if you happen to lose your internet connection.

[Diunx]

[Mupepe]

The IGN stream just said you have to pay to transfer your gamerscore to the Xbox One.

 

No fucking way.  I don't believe that shit because it's connected across all MS stuff already if you use your Live ID.  PC, phone, tablet and xbox.  Unless they make you start a new account that makes no sense.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

To play a game you just bought for the Xbox One you need an active internet connection to install and play the game. You cannot start a game without an active internet connection. Much like Steam when you put the disc in the drive it reaches out to the internet and ties the game to your account then installs it. Games cannot be played without an install.

Lemme say that again.

You cannot play games on this without an active internet connection.
Single player games will continue to work if you happen to lose your internet connection.

sauce?

i saw it on SA

Wired asked Microsoft if installation would be mandatory. “On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” the company responded in an emailed statement. Sounds mandatory to us.

What follows naturally from this is that each disc would have to be tied to a unique Xbox Live account, else you could take a single disc and pass it between everyone you know and copy the game over and over. Since this is clearly not going to happen, each disc must then only install for a single owner.

Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.

[ManaByte]

The IGN stream just said you have to pay to transfer your gamerscore to the Xbox One.

 

No fucking way.  I don't believe that shit because it's connected across all MS stuff already if you use your Live ID.  PC, phone, tablet and xbox.  Unless they make you start a new account that makes no sense.

There was an account migration required from the first Xbox to the 360 for Live. MS could just be charging for this one.

[Eel O'Brian]

To play a game you just bought for the Xbox One you need an active internet connection to install and play the game. You cannot start a game without an active internet connection. Much like Steam when you put the disc in the drive it reaches out to the internet and ties the game to your account then installs it. Games cannot be played without an install.

Lemme say that again.

You cannot play games on this without an active internet connection.
Single player games will continue to work if you happen to lose your internet connection.

sauce?

i saw it on SA

Wired asked Microsoft if installation would be mandatory. “On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” the company responded in an emailed statement. Sounds mandatory to us.

What follows naturally from this is that each disc would have to be tied to a unique Xbox Live account, else you could take a single disc and pass it between everyone you know and copy the game over and over. Since this is clearly not going to happen, each disc must then only install for a single owner.

Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.

well, it makes sense, how else would it tag to your system

even if it's only for ten seconds, it still has to connect to lock the game down

[cool breeze]

over-under on Xbox One ads with Queen's One vision?

fits with the retro 80s theme Microsoft is going with, imo.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

yeah, cuz if it's going to check if it's a used game it has to do it via online. it own't let you play otherwise

[maxy]

XBL server count is being upgraded from 15000 to 300000...interesting

that's all you've got

I blame America for this disgrace.

[Himu]

To play a game you just bought for the Xbox One you need an active internet connection to install and play the game. You cannot start a game without an active internet connection. Much like Steam when you put the disc in the drive it reaches out to the internet and ties the game to your account then installs it. Games cannot be played without an install.

Lemme say that again.

You cannot play games on this without an active internet connection.
Single player games will continue to work if you happen to lose your internet connection.

sauce?

i saw it on SA

Wired asked Microsoft if installation would be mandatory. “On the new Xbox, all game discs are installed to the HDD to play,” the company responded in an emailed statement. Sounds mandatory to us.

What follows naturally from this is that each disc would have to be tied to a unique Xbox Live account, else you could take a single disc and pass it between everyone you know and copy the game over and over. Since this is clearly not going to happen, each disc must then only install for a single owner.

Microsoft did say that if a disc was used with a second account, that owner would be given the option to pay a fee and install the game from the disc, which would then mean that the new account would also own the game and could play it without the disc.

So this fee HAS to be a full price of a title, or else, you can sell your friends your used games at a discount. This instantly kills off using stuff like gamefly because the price will automatically be the price of a full game.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

or a rental fee


Despite the system not requiring it, developers will be able to create games that will not play offline. Wired reports that games will be able to hook into Microsoft's Azure cloud services with a lack of offline support, but there is no requirement for them to do so yet. A second part to the always online rumor was some type of activation system that prevents used games. Microsoft says it's "designing Xbox One to enable customers to trade in and resell games," and promises to offer more details in future. Wired has some additional details, noting that secondary use of a game disc will require a fee so that it will be marked and owned and can be played without the disc — something the Xbox One supports natively.
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WOW

[Momo]

As shown in the Microsoft reveal stream, and confirmed in the release, “Live TV will require a supported receiver device with HDMI output,” which is sold separately.

Xbox One’s live TV fucntionality will only be available in the US at launch, a press release from Microsoft has confirmed.

hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

[Eel O'Brian]

yeah, the word "fee" sounds like it's being used rather loosely there

a $5 "fee"

a $20 "fee"

a $49.99 "fee"

[Himu]

This console is a fucking joke.

I hope Sony does not go nearly this far.

[Eli Gulgin]

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Why does this kill me every time I see it? It's so absurd.

It's the action zoom.

It's the breasts.

[Himu]

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Why does this kill me every time I see it? It's so absurd.

It's the action zoom.

It's the breasts.

didn't notice before, now the gif is even funnier.

[Joe Molotov]

The thing that pisses me off the most about this and previous Xbox conferences is they're like SPORTS! SPORTS! SPORTS! but the one thing people wanna be able to do is stream live sporting events and that's the one thing THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO LET YOU DO because of networks and bullshit. At best, you can pay a pantload of money for an app and watch live (non-playoff) games and still get blacked out of local games. But wow, you can get fantasy league updates in real-time, omg! Because there's no way I could have done that before the Xbox 1 was invented.

[Jansen]

It's over, period. MS lost used games, and that's the end of their Xbox hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for Xbox. Xbox has nothing left, nothing they can reveal now would fix the hole created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a Xbox One. Except if they want to play Halo 5. Which will also come to PC at some point.

The age of Xbox is done.

[Eel O'Brian]

also wondering about the "second account" wording in that used game quote

do they mean there's a two-console game disc activation limit, period?

[maxy]

At least Oscar winning streak has been broken,no always online.

Oh well,smartphone games are good.

[huckleberry]

also wondering about the "second account" wording in that used game quote

do they mean there's a two-console game disc activation limit, period?

This is the one thing that I want to know most.....only fucking reason I own a console in the first place is not having to buy multiple copies in my household.

[Shaka Khan]

Re: Used games

With Yoshida's non-committed ambiguous answer, I don't think the PS4 is out of the woods yet.

[Himu]

Didn't he say it was up to the publisher, Shaka? That's better than this.

[huckleberry]

I agree about the PS4....either one of these consoles tie the game to individual account instead of the console and  I am out.

[Eel O'Brian]

probably the same thing, PS4 games will connect to servers to activate and lock the disc to your system, then you can play offline

[cool breeze]

PGR3


Driveclub


Forza 5

[Eel O'Brian]

i was never "in" to begin with so i can't say i'm "out," but i already own a pc that does everything these systems are trying to sell me on, so to me they're bringing nothing to the table that would make me want to lay out upwards of $500*

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* subject to change with console-exclusive Red Dead Sequel or Fallout 4 announcement

[close]

[Great Rumbler]

It's over, period. MS lost used games, and that's the end of their Xbox hopes and dreams.

It's not hyperbole, it's not fanboy drivel. It is LITERALLY it for Xbox. Xbox has nothing left, nothing they can reveal now would fix the hole created. There is no reason left for any one, hardcore or casual, to substantively invest in a Xbox One. Except if they want to play Halo 5. Which will also come to PC at some point.

The age of Xbox is done.

Maybe next time!

[Verdigris Murder]

Everything about the XboxOne sounds like recipe for a worldwide mega smash. Like watching an expensive Ferrari driven by suited morons smash high speed into a concrete wall morelike!

[Don Flamenco]

The thing that pisses me off the most about this and previous Xbox conferences is they're like SPORTS! SPORTS! SPORTS! but the one thing people wanna be able to do is stream live sporting events and that's the one thing THEY'RE NEVER GOING TO LET YOU DO because of networks and bullshit. At best, you can pay a pantload of money for an app and watch live (non-playoff) games and still get blacked out of local games. But wow, you can get fantasy league updates in real-time, omg! Because there's no way I could have done that before the Xbox 1 was invented.

the thing is really a AT+T, Comcast, etc. cream dream. 

and yeah, a lot of this "gee whiz" shit is easily accomplished with a remote control or controller and some mobile device at your side.  I already do all this crap with my Vita while playing/watching shit on PS3. 

[brob]

eh, there are still plenty of ps3, 360, ds and psp games I haven't gotten around to so waiting this and the ps4 out shouldn't be hard.


If all is right these machines will tank like the wii u and we might see some creativity born out of the desperation.

[MCD]

Are you guys interested in a Surface Pro? Perhaps a Lumia 928? Please support American companies.

[Brehvolution]

[Third]

Worst conference EVER

Xbox Channel One sounds like a disaster

team Ps4U.

[Eel O'Brian]

Gonna be some hilarious Christmas morning stories this year.

[Cerveza mas fina]

My FB, all peeps I know IRL

[Mr. Gundam]

So what games did they announce? Anything interesting?

[Don Flamenco]

I loved how they announced that OMG IT'S MOST DEFINITELY GOING TO BE RELEASED-------later this year.

So what games did they announce? Anything interesting?

the remedy game is interesting just cause of who makes it, but it's not like they showed gameplay

[MCD]

So what games did they announce? Anything interesting?

Quantum Break from Remedy.

[Great Rumbler]

[Mr. Gundam]

Before GAF went belly up I saw people making comments about how the Xbox One isn't that much more powerful than the 360. Just stupid fanboy rage?

[Don Flamenco]

Before GAF went belly up I saw people making comments about how the Xbox One isn't that much more powerful than the 360. Just stupid fanboy rage?

yeah, nobody knows for sure at this point.  i mean, 8gb of ram alone is a pretty good bump.

those were just idiots who drew a conclusion from watching trailers on a stream.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Before GAF went belly up I saw people making comments about how the Xbox One isn't that much more powerful than the 360. Just stupid fanboy rage?

Its clearly a step up, prob close to PS4 (except for ram speed at least)

[Flannel Boy]

NeoGAF is currently down for scheduled maintenance. Please understand.

[helios]

X1 will not work without the Kinect being plugged in

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/05/21/xbox-one-will-not-function-without-kinect-attached

[Third]

Damn, the nOne is getting worse and worse

The Wii U is a fucking SNES 2 compared to it.

[Flannel Boy]

How dare MS name its console after the best selling album of the 21st century.

[Mr. Gundam]

Before GAF went belly up I saw people making comments about how the Xbox One isn't that much more powerful than the 360. Just stupid fanboy rage?

yeah, nobody knows for sure at this point.  i mean, 8gb of ram alone is a pretty good bump.

those were just idiots who drew a conclusion from watching trailers on a stream.

That's what I figured, but I'm not a tech guy.

[Rahxephon91]

Damn, the nOne is getting worse and worse

The Wii U is a fucking SNES 2 compared to it.

No this system will still actually get games.

[mjemirzian]

X1 will not work without the Kinect being plugged in

The next question is, will it work if you have the Kinect plugged in but facing a wall so it can't see anything?

Or must it always be watching you.

[ManaByte]

MS is paying people $10 just to sign up for a pre-order email notification:

http://www.microsoftstore.com/store/msusa/html/pbpage.XboxAnnounce?Icid=Homepage_Hero_Rotating_1_Xbox_One_Announce_052113

[Cerveza mas fina]

Maybe that 10 credit will just be enough to buy a key to watch that 2nd hand blu ray you borrowed from your sister.

[ManaByte]

They have Disney Infinity characters on the store. Going to use it on those to make them $3.

[Human Snorenado]

This really nails it

http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/192709/Opinion_Xbox_One_is_a_desperate_prayer_to_stop_time.php

[Don Flamenco]

yep.  the thing makes no sense.


All this will be moot if it somehow has incredible games, but I'm not holding my breath.  Seems like they're relying on COD and EA Sports exclusive shit or whatever. 

[EmCeeGrammar]

It seems I took what I considered basic fearures for granted with my Wii U.  No bc and essentially no lending games AND having to pay for a gold subscription on top of all this bs is a joke and a farce.  I conjecture that although sony hasn't been brazen about it, they have a similar setup just based on how they have been beating around the bush (we already know nothing carries over to ps4 as far as bc is concerned).

The thing is though, Microsoft can still carve out a niche like they have always done via brute force and the backing of the bigger publishers.  I can't see Sony flourishing in the business going by their current prospects.  Anyone advocating pc are in for a surprise if the One missteps, though, as without being subsidized by console sales, AAA won't be able to sustain itself anywhere.

Yes I'm concern trolling, but so is everyone else today so I get a turn too.

[Cerveza mas fina]

There's not really any EA exclusive shit.

[brob]

yep.  the thing makes no sense.


All this will be moot if it somehow has incredible games, but I'm not holding my breath.  Seems like they're relying on COD and EA Sports exclusive shit or whatever. 

just hold on to yer butts for a few years and it will have fallen in price and there might be something fun to pick up at dirt prices.

No one with brains bought a wii and then sat there pining for every good release. they bought a wii a couple of years ago and plowed through a bunch of good stuff that was had at bargain bin prices. Shit I didn't even pay for my wii, a crestfallen motherfucker loaned it to me and forgot about it as quick as he could.

[helios]

I knew the "fee" would be full price

http://kotaku.com/you-will-be-able-to-trade-xbox-one-games-online-micros-509140825