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Travelling is just as superficial as buying shit
« on: May 28, 2013, 11:41:46 AM »
If its just another commodity you use for status. Deal with it stinking hippies

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« Reply #1 on: May 28, 2013, 11:43:43 AM »
Do you mean holidays?

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« Reply #2 on: May 28, 2013, 11:44:49 AM »
OK...?

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« Reply #3 on: May 28, 2013, 11:48:07 AM »
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« Reply #4 on: May 28, 2013, 11:55:22 AM »
Do you mean holidays?

Backpacking, package holidays, the lot.

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« Reply #5 on: May 28, 2013, 12:01:56 PM »
If I wasn't allowed to travel out of rural SC every now and then I would probably be sucking on a tail pipe by now.

In other words: Fuck you. Traveling is awesome.   :rejoice

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« Reply #6 on: May 28, 2013, 12:04:58 PM »
If I wasn't allowed to travel out of rural SC every now and then I would probably be sucking on a tail pipe by now.

In other words: Fuck you. Traveling is awesome.   :rejoice

Clearly, you travel around rural South Carolina for the conferred status.

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« Reply #7 on: May 28, 2013, 12:07:45 PM »
Pretty much. :tophat
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« Reply #8 on: May 28, 2013, 12:08:19 PM »
If its just another commodity you use for status. Deal with it stinking hippies

all in how you approach it. clearly you just used it as a way to make people think you were cool, you tryhard bastard
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« Reply #9 on: May 28, 2013, 12:10:30 PM »
I like driving around the UK to national parks, castles, sea-sides n shit. Its something to do, and even places here can be pretty... if I could afford it, I'd probably do it on more of a grand scale - and fly to far flung places.

Part of me thinks some people DO use travelling for brags/status, and maybe people aren't always inventive with where they choose to go, but in the same breath -- the likes of Thailand, New Zealand, Vietnam, Australia -- typical backpacker routes - seem to have amazing vistas of incredible beauty... I'm not gonna let popularity put me off seeing things in person if I want to.

I also think some people are maybe following the tried and true routes because they don't really want to go to the backend of beyond and get mugged, marooned or beheaded for being a Westerner or something as well.

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2013, 12:26:07 PM »
I'm not saying people shouldn't travel, or people shouldn't travel to popular spots. I'm just seeing a trend where one is EXPECTED to travel which puts a lot of people abroad who should have never left the town they were born in.

If its just another commodity you use for status. Deal with it stinking hippies

all in how you approach it. clearly you just used it as a way to make people think you were cool, you tryhard bastard

This is what I'm saying, it's just another status symbol to many people, so it makes me tired of hearing experiences > things cause that's not very nuanced.

That wasn't the reason I wanted to travel.
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« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2013, 12:26:19 PM »
Okay real talk:

Yes, some people do use travel as a way to brag about how "cultured and well off" they are but I would like to think that isn't the primary or real reason why people travel to interesting and exotic locations.

edit: Then again, I don't really hobnob on a regular basis with people who are well off financially.
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« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2013, 01:01:51 PM »
Sooo, this is how you're dealing with being tied down?
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« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2013, 01:30:28 PM »
I travelled for superficial reasons to Jamaica, but learned much about their history and current situation that left a great impression on me. Helped reshape and put into perspective my own narcissistic concerns.

It was certainly more profound an experience than I would have gotten through reading a book or watching a doc.


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« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2013, 01:37:01 PM »
Fair point Toxic.

Sooo, this is how you're dealing with being tied down?
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I went backpacking last year with my fiancee :)
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« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2013, 01:57:21 PM »
Sooo, this is how you're dealing with being tied down?

I went backpacking last year with my fiancee :)

Well that explains it. Backpacking is for poors.

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« Reply #17 on: May 28, 2013, 04:51:24 PM »
The OP is bullshit. Surprising it comes from Kosma, the Bore's most accomplished backpacker.

Traveling is about experiences. Experiences stay with you longer than almost anything you'll ever buy. I could have bought a decent car with the money I used to circle the globe in 2011, but I'm really glad I did what I did.

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« Reply #18 on: May 28, 2013, 05:45:22 PM »
Not superficial if you're a foodie

If not, just watch on youtube

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« Reply #19 on: May 28, 2013, 06:05:30 PM »
Didn't ol' spotted dick travel around the world?  Now he's apparently trying to make everyone else feel bad because the missus has him chained down in Ireland.  :violin
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« Reply #20 on: May 28, 2013, 06:48:54 PM »
If its just another commodity you use for status. Deal with it stinking hippies

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« Reply #21 on: May 28, 2013, 08:20:46 PM »
Superficial reasons are the best reasons to travel/buy things. Do I want to go somewhere to become a more well rounded person? Fuck no, I want to go somewhere to see new/different shit and have a fun time.
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« Reply #22 on: May 28, 2013, 08:38:23 PM »
If I wasn't allowed to travel out of rural SC every now and then I would probably be sucking on a tail pipe by now.

In other words: Fuck you. Traveling is awesome.   :rejoice

Yeah, I feel pretty much the same way about southern Oklahoma. There is flat NOTHING within a fifteen mile radius of my house that is remotely interesting.
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« Reply #23 on: May 28, 2013, 09:13:56 PM »
You have to adjust your radius in rural Oklahoma. For you, fifteen miles = fifteen minutes of driving. Fifteen minutes of driving in a lot of more interesting cities wouldn't even cover looking for parking.

But in my case, by "interesting" I mean "the nearest Taco Bell and Wal-Mart."
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« Reply #24 on: May 28, 2013, 09:45:47 PM »
Hearing everybody at work suffering over the decision between an all-inclusive in Mexico or an all-inclusive in Jamaica is... Irritating to say the least. They talk about their vacation planning DAILY for at least 6-9 months, then they go on vacation (while everybody else covers their work), then we have to hear about it for a few months, then they're planning their next trip.

And it's never to go experience the culture or history or anything remotely respectful. It's always to go to the beach, swim with the dolphins (and other resort-planned excursions), and fear the locals. The same shit they'd do anywhere they go. But it always has to be somewhere different from where they went last time, even though it is theoretically the exact same experience.

We're going on vacation for the first time since our honeymoon FIVE YEARS AGO. While everybody we know goes on the same damn cruises or to the same damn resorts at least once per year, on top of constant weekend trips to the same dumb places. And they are always conplaining that they're broke. Sorry buddy, you spend more on vacations every year than we spend on car payments in a year. No sympathy from me.
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« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2013, 10:09:46 PM »
Things like cruises and beach towns never made sense to me. But I've always lived in California and I'd go crazy if I spend too much time indoors on a boat.

I'd say overall, vacations are probably the most superficial thing you can "buy" since you don't actually get something with any utility, your only goal is to really observe a new place with your own eyes. I guess you could say the same thing about concerts and camping trips. It's good and healthy if you go into it with that expectation but it's obviously bad if you think you'll get some sort of spiritual fulfillment to come from it.

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« Reply #26 on: May 28, 2013, 10:23:47 PM »
Some people travel to learn too!  And not just school.  Travelling can give one valuable insight into different cultures and even into our own.  It wasn't until I left the Americas that I understood how distinctly "American" I was.  It's a humbling experience to see yourself through the eyes of people from such a different background and understand why they'd see you that way.

Also being right in the middle of a different world is a story on its own.  Things happening halfway around the world will always be front page headlines until it's right in front of you.  It changes a person if the heart and mind is open.

And as a side note, it's totally true when they say you can't completely understand a culture until you've eaten and really tasted their food the way it was meant to be eaten.
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« Reply #27 on: May 28, 2013, 11:04:39 PM »
But did you do the zip line tour? You don't really know a culture until you pay for the zip line tour.
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« Reply #28 on: May 28, 2013, 11:26:13 PM »
Eh, I guess travelling so you can get a change of scenery/artificial sense of adventure while you relax and take time off of work is pretty bourgie, but it doesn't really bother me.  Much more annoyed by people who come back from a week or two abroad and act like experts on the local culture because they found the "authentic" locales/food/tchotchkes.

I mean, spend your money and time however you want.  It's your break from work, enjoy it!  Just don't demand validation from me afterwards.

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« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2013, 12:00:15 AM »
I'm going on a trip this summer [by myself] to visit a zoo and some art museums. Deal with it.
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« Reply #30 on: May 29, 2013, 12:29:18 AM »
I mean, spend your money and time however you want.  It's your break from work, enjoy it!  Just don't demand validation from me afterwards.

I think that's what is so irritating at work - that the people traveling all the time can't afford it. We're constantly having to make considerations for work lunches and work activities for a few people who always moan about being broke. Or myself or others chip in more to cover a deficit created by the moaners. Yet these few are always going on trips and big vacations, 3-5 per year, far more than anyone else on the team. "I'm maxing out my credit card for this but I deserve this vacation. I haven't been on a trip since Christmas. I never do anything for myself." Oh ok. Here, let me pay for part of your lunch again and just give me a stack of your work before you leave.

Then you have us normal people who plan our vacations, only mention it a few times, and get our work caught up before we leave.
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« Reply #31 on: May 29, 2013, 01:11:38 AM »
I'm going on a trip this summer [by myself] to visit a zoo and some art museums. Deal with it.

Where to?
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« Reply #32 on: May 29, 2013, 01:23:12 AM »
I'm going on a trip this summer [by myself] to visit a zoo and some art museums. Deal with it.

Where to?

Ft. Worth. They've got a really great zoo and arts district.
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« Reply #33 on: May 29, 2013, 01:50:39 AM »
I never said you shouldnt travel feckers. This was specifically aimed at a special group of people.

Next month im going to Spain and Portugal on a mini tour for two weeks :)
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« Reply #34 on: May 29, 2013, 01:51:26 AM »
Next month im going to Spain and Portugal on a mini tour for two weeks :)

God, you're so superficial.

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« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2013, 02:08:31 AM »
This is going worse then Chinatown :(

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« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2013, 02:56:05 AM »
Lager do you want me to provide you with hourly updates of my trip next month via a specially created tumblr? I can email you my itinerary as well.
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« Reply #37 on: May 29, 2013, 03:03:01 AM »
Hearing everybody at work suffering over the decision between an all-inclusive in Mexico or an all-inclusive in Jamaica is... Irritating to say the least. They talk about their vacation planning DAILY for at least 6-9 months, then they go on vacation (while everybody else covers their work), then we have to hear about it for a few months, then they're planning their next trip.

And it's never to go experience the culture or history or anything remotely respectful. It's always to go to the beach, swim with the dolphins (and other resort-planned excursions), and fear the locals. The same shit they'd do anywhere they go. But it always has to be somewhere different from where they went last time, even though it is theoretically the exact same experience.

We're going on vacation for the first time since our honeymoon FIVE YEARS AGO. While everybody we know goes on the same damn cruises or to the same damn resorts at least once per year, on top of constant weekend trips to the same dumb places. And they are always conplaining that they're broke. Sorry buddy, you spend more on vacations every year than we spend on car payments in a year. No sympathy from me.

In my last job I worked with a girl who always talked about her trips unprompted to anyone within earshot. Every conversation was like this...

Her: Hi pilonv1, how are you?
Me: Good thanks, you?
Her: I'm great, already planning my trip to Hawaii/Great Barrier Reef/Fiji/wherever. I'm not paying for it because <person X> is taking me, and were just going to lie on the beach all day in and get a tan LOL. Also we're staying at the Hilton and then we're going shopping all day. We're flying first class too, not sure if I mentioned that, can't wait. Talk to you later!

Then she'd move to a desk 6 feet away from me and inflict one of my co-workers with here inane story.
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« Reply #38 on: May 29, 2013, 03:52:42 AM »
Yes please.

I don't even talk about travels anymore, even when the topic is about something i've experienced I try not to mention I've actually been there/witnessed that first hand.

"Oh you like tea? Well WHEN I WAS IN X THEY HAD REAL TEA."

Fucking hate those people.
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« Reply #39 on: May 29, 2013, 05:19:09 AM »
Next month im going to Spain and Portugal on a mini tour for two weeks :)

God, you're so superficial.
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« Reply #40 on: May 29, 2013, 07:30:14 AM »
Hearing everybody at work suffering over the decision between an all-inclusive in Mexico or an all-inclusive in Jamaica is... Irritating to say the least. They talk about their vacation planning DAILY for at least 6-9 months, then they go on vacation (while everybody else covers their work), then we have to hear about it for a few months, then they're planning their next trip.

And it's never to go experience the culture or history or anything remotely respectful. It's always to go to the beach, swim with the dolphins (and other resort-planned excursions), and fear the locals. The same shit they'd do anywhere they go. But it always has to be somewhere different from where they went last time, even though it is theoretically the exact same experience.

We're going on vacation for the first time since our honeymoon FIVE YEARS AGO. While everybody we know goes on the same damn cruises or to the same damn resorts at least once per year, on top of constant weekend trips to the same dumb places. And they are always conplaining that they're broke. Sorry buddy, you spend more on vacations every year than we spend on car payments in a year. No sympathy from me.

In my last job I worked with a girl who always talked about her trips unprompted to anyone within earshot. Every conversation was like this...

Her: Hi pilonv1, how are you?
Me: Good thanks, you?
Her: I'm great, already planning my trip to Hawaii/Great Barrier Reef/Fiji/wherever. I'm not paying for it because <person X> is taking me, and were just going to lie on the beach all day in and get a tan LOL. Also we're staying at the Hilton and then we're going shopping all day. We're flying first class too, not sure if I mentioned that, can't wait. Talk to you later!

Then she'd move to a desk 6 feet away from me and inflict one of my co-workers with here inane story.

Yes! Exactly! I have already heard all the details from you talking loudly about it to every other person in the vicinity. Now I'm hearing it for the 3rd time before 8am.

No joke this is almost daily for me. "Well plans changed." What plans? "Oh my vacation I told you about yesterday! We were going to the Bahamas but now we're going to Punta Cana." And cue a 1-way conversation that lasts entirely too long while work piles up around me.
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« Reply #41 on: May 29, 2013, 08:54:10 AM »
I got a bit tired of traveling and living different places.  eventually I just wanted to settle down and play some vidya 

There are plenty of people who use it as a "more experienced than thou" thing and I had that attitude for a bit once I got back to school.  I found it's a lot more fun to let that kind of thing come up naturally in conversation rather than being all fronty about it.  and also that travel in itself doesn't make someone more interesting.

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« Reply #42 on: May 29, 2013, 09:19:51 AM »
I got a bit tired of traveling and living different places.  eventually I just wanted to settle down and play some vidya 

:bow :bow2

Often when travelling I find myself longing for some vidya, and I've put many hours into games while travelling. Feels good to play some games totally relaxed.

and also that travel in itself doesn't make someone more interesting.

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« Reply #43 on: May 29, 2013, 01:00:17 PM »
What the hell is this thread even about?
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« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2013, 04:35:33 PM »
Only if you don't learn shit. I love taking people up to Yosemite who haven't been. The granite monoliths carved out by glaciers dwarf anything humanity has built thus far. Puts a lot of shit into perspective.