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Don Flamenco

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We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« on: May 29, 2013, 08:05:55 AM »
This motherfucker won't stay down but we got him again! 

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/05/29/us-pakistan-drone-idUSBRE94S06B20130529



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A U.S. drone strike killed the number two of the Pakistani Taliban in the North Waziristan region on Wednesday, three security officials said, in what would be a major blow in the fight against militancy.

The drone strike killed seven people, Pakistani security officials said, including Taliban deputy commander Wali-ur-Rehman, in the first such attack since a May 11 general election in which the use of the unmanned aircraft was a major issue.

Wali-ur-Rehman had been poised to succeed Hakimullah Mehsud as leader of the Pakistani Taliban, a senior army official based in the South Waziristan region, had said in December.

"This is a huge blow to militants and a win in the fight against insurgents," one security official told Reuters, declining further comment.

The Pakistani Taliban are a separate entity allied to the Afghan Taliban. Known as the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), they have launched devastating attacks against the Pakistani military and civilians.

Pakistani Taliban spokesman Ihsanullah Ihsan told Reuters the group did not have "confirmed reports" that Wali-ur-Rehman had been killed. He declined further comment.

Drone casualties are difficult to verify. Foreign journalists must have permission from the military to visit the Pashtun tribal areas along the Afghan border.

Taliban fighters also often seal off the sites of drone strikes immediately so Pakistani journalists cannot see the victims.

"That the Taliban are remaining silent and neither denying or confirming the news is itself peculiar," said Saleem Safi, a Pakistani expert on the Taliban. "But if this news is true, then the Pakistan army has the U.S. to thank."

The security officials and Pashtun tribesmen in the northwestern region said the drone fired two missiles that struck a mud-built house at Chashma village, 3 km (2 miles) east of Miranshah, the region's administrative town.

They said seven people were killed and four wounded.

FOREIGN MINISTRY DENOUNCES DRONES

"Tribesmen started rescue work an hour after the attack and recovered seven bodies," said resident Bashir Dawar. "The bodies were badly damaged and beyond recognition."

The Pakistan government had yet to confirm Wali-ur-Rehman's death.

A U.S. drone killed Pakistani Taliban commander Baitullah Mehsud in 2009. There had been several reports that his successor, Hakimullah Mehsud, was killed the same way but they turned out to be untrue.

But the Foreign Ministry again denounced drones in general on Wednesday.

"The government has consistently maintained that the drone strikes are counter-productive, entail loss of innocent civilian lives, have human rights and humanitarian implications and violate the principles of national sovereignty, territorial integrity and international law," it said.

U.S. President Barack Obama recently indicated he was scaling back the drone strike program, winning cautious approval from Pakistan, a key ally in the U.S. fight on militancy.

North Waziristan is on the Afghan border and has long been a stronghold of militants including Afghan Taliban and their al Qaeda and Pakistani Taliban allies.

Prime Minister-elect Nawaz Sharif said this month that drone strikes were a "challenge" to Pakistan's sovereignty.

"We will sit with our American friends and talk to them about this issue," he said.

Obama's announcement of scaling back drone strikes was widely welcomed by the people of North Waziristan, where drones armed with missiles have carried out the most strikes against militants over the past seven years, sometimes with heavy civilian casualties.

The strike also coincided with the first session of the newly elected provincial assembly of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa, the former Northwest Frontier Province.

Former cricketer Imran Khan's Pakistan Tehrik-e-Insaf party won most seats in the assembly and denounced the strike, saying Obama had gone back on his word.



WHY WOULD YOU APPLY FOR THIS JOB?!  Al-Qaeda Number 2 guys last about 6 months on average.

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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #1 on: May 29, 2013, 08:51:14 AM »
Taliban != Al Qaeda
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #2 on: May 29, 2013, 08:54:49 AM »
Taliban != Al Qaeda


whatever who cares!

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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #3 on: May 29, 2013, 08:55:42 AM »
Mericah.

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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #4 on: May 29, 2013, 11:55:45 AM »
Taliban != Al Qaeda


whatever who cares!
US foreign policy circa 2003.
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #5 on: May 29, 2013, 04:25:10 PM »
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A U.S. drone strike killed the number two of the Pakistani Taliban in the North Waziristan region on Wednesday, three security officials said, in what would be a major blow in the fight against militancy.

Da fuq does this even mean?
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #6 on: May 30, 2013, 01:00:19 AM »
Yeah, I'm a bit appalled; there are lots of ties between Al Qaeda and the Taliban, but they are not one and the same.

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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #7 on: May 30, 2013, 01:44:29 AM »
Well I guess it's important to show that you still can kill the numero dos, but then a lot of people obviously mix up the two groups. I'm not really sure which number two is more important to kill or harder to.

They could do like a Parent Trap situation.

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« Reply #8 on: May 30, 2013, 04:25:18 AM »
Why is everyone liking this post?

Cause it's a quick zinger about how, back then, various governments and non-state actors were conflated with each other as Islamofascist/terrorist/evil/whatever in public statements by government officials and their supporters in the media?

You could downgrade it for being glib, but it's a one-liner.  That's the medium.

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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #9 on: May 30, 2013, 06:24:04 AM »
You could also go with "Bush hijacked our grief and flew it to Iraq."

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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #10 on: May 30, 2013, 09:07:15 AM »
I killed a number 2 shortly after we ate at Buffalo Wild wings yesterday.
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #11 on: May 30, 2013, 11:58:41 AM »
Why is everyone liking this post?

Cause it's a quick zinger about how, back then, various governments and non-state actors were conflated with each other as Islamofascist/terrorist/evil/whatever in public statements by government officials and their supporters in the media?

You could downgrade it for being glib, but it's a one-liner.  That's the medium.

It doesn't make any sense, though. There was no al Qaida nor Taliban in Iraq in 2003. There were both in Afghanistan. American foreign policy did care about the difference in Afghanistan because it felt the Taliban was mostly destroyed while Al Qaida was the target. The pretext for war in Iraq wasn't dependent on US foreign policy caring about the difference between AQ and Taliban. Maybe the US NOT caring about the difference would have made more sense, but even that's a stretch. IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. UNLIKE THAT POST.

Huh...are  you denying that US foreign policy circa the early aughts were fraught with a general conflation of varying ideologies, groups, etc into one giant ball of confusion? Be it Sunnis and Shiites, Taliban and AQ, Saddamn Hussein and Bin Laden, etc - there are multiple cases of a certain administration simplifying complex relationships into a good/bad dynamic. That was the point of the post/zinger, which I figured would be rather obvious.

Much of the administration didn't know about the sectarian nature of Iraq society before the invasion.
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #12 on: May 30, 2013, 12:03:50 PM »
Saddamn Hussein

Intentional or not? Either way, LOL
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #13 on: May 30, 2013, 12:13:19 PM »
What does the sectarian nature of Iraq and the administration's knowledge of it have to do with the US caring about the differences between the Taliban and AQ? Again, if your post said "Not the US circa 2003" it would have made more sense, but still inaccurate because neither were in Iraq. I forgive your weak zinger, but not everyone liking it.

Because, as with the Taliban and AQ, various groups were being...ah forget it. You've over thought a joke on the internet to the highest degree. Everyone "got" the broad point of it except you.

Here you go, you earned it
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #14 on: May 30, 2013, 12:27:49 PM »
Come on, Biz, you're making the rest of us in Okie-Bore look bad.
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2013, 12:42:42 PM »
"Whatever! Who cares!" = US foreign policy in 2003

THAT'S THE JOKE
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2013, 12:52:07 PM »
 :picard
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2013, 02:51:58 PM »
WOMP WOMP

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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2013, 02:58:57 PM »
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2013, 03:20:12 PM »
thread closed for too much ghey

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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2013, 03:22:19 PM »
Good call.
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Re: We did it!! We killed Al-Qaeda's number 2 guy!
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2013, 12:38:49 PM »
Mod me!