Console Deathwatch checklist

[Eel O'Brian]

Wii U = 

Xbone One =

PS4 = stay of execution

[Joe Molotov]

What about Vita, the Ron Paul of consoles?

[Rahxephon91]

Xbox One dead? Hell no, not after that conference.

[Don Flamenco]

Xbox One dead? Hell no, not after that conference.

FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

and the same old shit + SmartGlass for the windows tablet nobody owns

[Eel O'Brian]

$500

dead

What about Vita, the Ron Paul of consoles?

this is just a funeral dirge for home consoles

[nudemacusers]

What about Vita, the Ron Paul of consoles?

[Snuflupagulus]

Just need Nintendo to hold out long enough for a Lego City Undercover in space. 

[Rman]

I think they priced that high because they might nut be able to meet demand.  You missed Vita, Eel lol.

[Phoenix Dark]

All Nintendo needed was a decent CPU/storage and they'd be in a pretty damn good position right now.

[Eel O'Brian]

I'm gonna say $450, but i'd bet anything sony execs are scrambling to see if they can chop an extra 25 off the ps4 price right now

[Don Flamenco]

They should just go $399.  It'll be a wrap at that price.

[Rufus]

Can Sony afford that?

[Phoenix Dark]

I can't imagine Sony taking that financial hit at $400, but it would certainly be the biggest megaton news in awhile. MS would be fucked.

[maxy]

All Nintendo needed was a decent CPU/storage and they'd be in a pretty damn good position right now.

Nintendo needed support of the industry(games that we saw today).

[Howard Alan Treesong]

No idea what price Sony will come in at, but remember ~$100 of the Xbox One price is the Kinect. Sony's machine is specced a little higher but also a bit more off-the-shelf. I think $429 is possible.

[nudemacusers]

yeah they are gambling with that price and the kinect pack-in. I wonder if they stuck themselves into a corner with that, assuming that the ps4 wouldn't get that extra ram boost.

[Madrun Badrun]

Kinect is just not going to pay off for them.  Its too much of a financial burden for hardcore gamers who don't give a shit and 500$ is too much for families that care about.   


Especially with the no-show of kinect stuff today.  I feel like the decision to include kinect was made 2 years ago when it was actually doing ok, but the train passed and now they are stuck with it.

[radioheadrule83]

No idea what price Sony will come in at, but remember ~$100 of the Xbox One price is the Kinect. Sony's machine is specced a little higher but also a bit more off-the-shelf. I think $429 is possible.

Kinect 2 has twin 1080p cameras, but if I had to guess I would have imagined the PS Eye light bar, 8GB GDDR5 and added CPU power will more than make up for that. I do believe there was speculation that the PS Eye wouldn't be standard though, so maybe.

Barrier of entry on the high-end boxes seems intentionally high to gouge enthusiastic early adopters IMO. Sony weren't sufficiently punished for 599, they came out of things just as well at this point in the generation as Microsoft... what incentive is there to make these boxes affordable?

I do predict Sony will enjoy making a point of how 'free' things are on their platform though. The non-social things anyway.

I'm out until next year definitely. I'll just have to play catch up.

[Phoenix Dark]

All Nintendo needed was a decent CPU/storage and they'd be in a pretty damn good position right now.

Nintendo needed support of the industry(games that we saw today).

I agree. Also, the pitch of their console felt weak/ineffectual. With the Wii U it just felt like they were saying "uhhh so you guys liked when we went with something weird, here's something weird again!". MS's vision at least seems pretty clear, a unified entertainment system. I would say their pitch, even with the terrible price and offensive DRM, looks better than what the Wii U had to offer at the same time of its reveal. Definitely better software, no question.

True but I'd argue decent console hardware would have gone a long way for them. The controller is rather irrelevant, not even Nintendo seems to give a shit about it right now. A decent online system, full Virtual Console like iTunes, a couple decent launch titles, and it would be in a completely different situation IMO.

[nudemacusers]

Kinect is just not going to pay off for them.  Its too much of a financial burden for hardcore gamers who don't give a shit and 500$ is too much for families that care about.   


Especially with the no-show of kinect stuff today.  I feel like the decision to include kinect was made 2 years ago when it was actually doing ok, but the train passed and now they are stuck with it.

very true

[Madrun Badrun]

No idea what price Sony will come in at, but remember ~$100 of the Xbox One price is the Kinect. Sony's machine is specced a little higher but also a bit more off-the-shelf. I think $429 is possible.

Kinect 2 has twin 1080p cameras, but if I had to guess I would have imagined the PS Eye light bar, 8GB GDDR5 and added CPU power will more than make up for that. I do believe there was speculation that the PS Eye wouldn't be standard though, so maybe.

Barrier of entry on the high-end boxes seems intentionally high to gouge enthusiastic early adopters IMO. Sony weren't sufficiently punished for 599, they came out of things just as well at this point in the generation as Microsoft... what incentive is there to make these boxes affordable?

I do predict Sony will enjoy making a point of how 'free' things are on their platform though. The non-social things anyway.

I'm out until next year definitely. I'll just have to play catch up.

The scary thing about playing catch up is no used games.  Those atlus games that only had a small run?  Nope.  Bayonetta?  Nope.   

[Trent Dole]

Well, there's the whole day and date digital release thing happening on at least one of the two next gen machines to consider.

[Madrun Badrun]

Its like it doesn't seem to add any value to hardcore games, and if people are making kinect games that people wanted they would just buy the damn thing.  The fact that now everyone has one doesn't seemed to have solved any of the issues that were problematic for the first version. 

[Great Rumbler]

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[chronovore]

Xbox One dead? Hell no, not after that conference.

FOUR HUNDRED AND NINETY NINE US DOLLARS

and the same old shit + SmartGlass for the windows tablet nobody owns

SmartGlass is already available and running on iPads though, which everyone seems to own.

[Eel O'Brian]

Governor called