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SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« on: June 10, 2013, 10:45:07 PM »
SONY WON. BUYING ONE AT LAUNCH.
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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY
« Reply #1 on: June 10, 2013, 10:46:55 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: June 10, 2013, 10:55:08 PM »


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« Reply #3 on: June 10, 2013, 10:58:20 PM »
lol Sony running with it. I guess paid multi is the tradeoff?

I'm still not convinced about EA adding DRM to its own games.

Good first step for Sony to come out against always online DRM at least.

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« Reply #5 on: June 10, 2013, 11:01:28 PM »
Yeah, this is how gaming should be.

Fucking ms is in deep shit right now with multi games requiring no fucking DRM on ps4

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« Reply #6 on: June 10, 2013, 11:01:48 PM »
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« Reply #7 on: June 10, 2013, 11:02:49 PM »
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« Reply #8 on: June 10, 2013, 11:02:57 PM »
:bow, wait what is that about paid online?
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« Reply #9 on: June 10, 2013, 11:04:51 PM »
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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #10 on: June 10, 2013, 11:06:12 PM »
HOLY SHIT
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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #11 on: June 10, 2013, 11:06:42 PM »
that youtube video

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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #12 on: June 10, 2013, 11:06:50 PM »
It's like Sony just gave the gaming community a giant hug and said, "It's all going to be alright!"
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« Reply #13 on: June 10, 2013, 11:06:53 PM »
Sony brought all the guns to E3. GODDAMN. Said everything I wanted to hear.
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« Reply #15 on: June 10, 2013, 11:07:18 PM »
The only blunder was PS+ being required for online play.

No clue what Sony was thinking, especially since they could add the cloud streaming features as a future bullet point.

Otherwise, yeah, Sony killed it this evening.

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« Reply #16 on: June 10, 2013, 11:09:19 PM »
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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #17 on: June 10, 2013, 11:09:34 PM »
Buying it the day FFXV comes out.
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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #18 on: June 10, 2013, 11:09:55 PM »
The only blunder was PS+ being required for online play.
It's the "online pass" for all multiplayer content. Tradeoff for offline single player games.

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« Reply #19 on: June 10, 2013, 11:11:01 PM »
they should broadcast the shit out of that video.
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« Reply #20 on: June 10, 2013, 11:12:23 PM »
paying for online is still bullshit, but since xbone is gonna have that too PS4 definitely looks like the better choice overall.....


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« Reply #21 on: June 10, 2013, 11:13:06 PM »
This will be certainly fun to watch.So they are really blocking publishers from using DRM?
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« Reply #22 on: June 10, 2013, 11:13:41 PM »
I'm hoping, beyond reason of course, that basic multi is free, but you gotta pay to use voice and so on. doubt it, though.
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« Reply #23 on: June 10, 2013, 11:14:23 PM »
Buying it the day FFXV comes out.

Buying it the day RANDOMGUNDAMGAME comes out.

spoiler (click to show/hide)
Please be region free.
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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2013, 11:16:18 PM »
I'm hoping, beyond reason of course, that basic multi is free, but you gotta pay to use voice and so on. doubt it, though.

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« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2013, 11:16:34 PM »
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« Reply #27 on: June 10, 2013, 11:18:07 PM »


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I thought you guys meant like some youtuber made a used games vid.  This is hilarious. :lol 


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« Reply #28 on: June 10, 2013, 11:18:47 PM »
I just preordered PS4 from Amazon.
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« Reply #29 on: June 10, 2013, 11:19:08 PM »
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« Reply #30 on: June 10, 2013, 11:23:11 PM »
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« Reply #31 on: June 10, 2013, 11:24:04 PM »
Oh that sweet, sweet sharing.

 :dead

But I'll never, ever share. ick.

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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #32 on: June 10, 2013, 11:26:09 PM »
lol that's what the ps4 looks like? can't wait to get home and watch the conference, can someone post a link to an archived stream on this thread?
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« Reply #33 on: June 10, 2013, 11:27:44 PM »
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« Reply #34 on: June 10, 2013, 11:29:30 PM »
Yeah, the last few minutes were brutal, but I still feel like there's some dodging going on
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« Reply #35 on: June 10, 2013, 11:31:52 PM »
Yeah, the last few minutes were brutal, but I still feel like there's some dodging going on

They kept saying that THEY won't be imposing any of these features. Does that mean the publishers still can?
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« Reply #36 on: June 10, 2013, 11:32:26 PM »
What game are they sharing in that video?
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« Reply #37 on: June 10, 2013, 11:34:11 PM »
Microsoft is probably just happy Sony waited until after the markets closed to have their conference.
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« Reply #38 on: June 10, 2013, 11:36:18 PM »
What game are they sharing in that video?

Killzone.
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« Reply #39 on: June 10, 2013, 11:36:27 PM »
where is sony's cock I want to suck it!!!!
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« Reply #40 on: June 10, 2013, 11:36:32 PM »
Yeah, the last few minutes were brutal, but I still feel like there's some dodging going on

They kept saying that THEY won't be imposing any of these features. Does that mean the publishers still can?

That's what I was thinking, yeah
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« Reply #42 on: June 10, 2013, 11:39:22 PM »
There might be a clusterfuck situation where some add the DRM, some don't.  then it'll be a fight against pubs.  what a headache.  but hey, at least it's not system level. 

We are still just celebrating that Sony is closest to the status quo :lol    and priced reasonably of course

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« Reply #43 on: June 10, 2013, 11:39:36 PM »
SONY WON. BUYING ONE AT LAUNCH.
Me, too, but why is GameStop forcing a bundle with NBA Live 14? Can I swap that out for NBA 2K14?
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« Reply #44 on: June 10, 2013, 11:39:56 PM »
I just realized, the only EA game I have ever bought is fucking URBZ and have never purchased anything from activision or Ubisoft, so unless some of the smaller western publishers and some japanese companies decide to be dicks, the drm shit won't affect me in the least.
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« Reply #45 on: June 10, 2013, 11:40:22 PM »
Yeah, the last few minutes were brutal, but I still feel like there's some dodging going on

The greatest dodge is that they get to let MS test the waters doing everything they wanted to try but didn't have the balls for and come the generation after will adopt DRM and no used games because MS will do just fine regardless of internet bitching, and by the gen after it will just be standard stuff everyone is use to; like paying for online multiplayer.   

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« Reply #46 on: June 10, 2013, 11:41:17 PM »
Xbox One preorder cancelled, will buy when MS drops the DRM crap.

Let's see, PS4 with Need for Speed Rivals, I think DriveClub is a PSPlus freebie... hm... what else...
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« Reply #47 on: June 10, 2013, 11:42:42 PM »

:rofl perfect choice

That's the Xbox 360 on the funeral pyre. He didn't deserve such a sad fate. :'(
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Re: SONY WON - PS4 NO DRM, USED GAMES, NO ONLINE ONLY, 399
« Reply #48 on: June 10, 2013, 11:46:59 PM »
Is there any other place where I can preorder a PS4 without having my credit card charged until it's shipped?
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« Reply #49 on: June 10, 2013, 11:48:12 PM »
Yup.

MS thought they could sell everyone bullshit. Sony said I'll see your bullshit and sell them a console.

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« Reply #50 on: June 10, 2013, 11:48:13 PM »
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« Reply #51 on: June 10, 2013, 11:49:42 PM »
Just found out the news.  :elephant

Going from playing Xbox almost exclusively for two gens to probably buying a PS4 at launch and never buying an Xbone.  Nice job MS. :lol

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« Reply #52 on: June 10, 2013, 11:50:21 PM »
Just found out the news.  :elephant

Going from playing Xbox almost exclusively for two gens to probably buying a PS4 at launch and never buying an Xbone.  Nice job MS. :lol

Same here for even longer. MS really fucked the pooch.

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« Reply #53 on: June 10, 2013, 11:52:01 PM »
Yeah, the last few minutes were brutal, but I still feel like there's some dodging going on

The greatest dodge is that they get to let MS test the waters doing everything they wanted to try but didn't have the balls for and come the generation after will adopt DRM and no used games because MS will do just fine regardless of internet bitching, and by the gen after it will just be standard stuff everyone is use to; like paying for online multiplayer.   

Nah, you'd have to be pretty damned out of touch to think MS is going to do just fine, now.  They're fucked.

MS fucks up all the time.  The first xbox was super expensive as well with a quick price drop.  360 had a recall and a shitton of console deaths.  They will though money at the problem like always.  Remember MS has been gunning for the living room experience for a long time, it not here yet but they are getting closer, and they will just wait it out. 

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« Reply #54 on: June 10, 2013, 11:54:59 PM »
The company will of course be fine, but the Xbox One is going to be a huge disaster.  They just got Saturned right in the nuts.
They better do something about the DRM, and now.
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« Reply #55 on: June 10, 2013, 11:56:17 PM »
The company will of course be fine, but the Xbox One is going to be a huge disaster.  They just got Saturned right in the nuts.

No.  These issues are things money can fix.  They won't be 360 strong but still more competitive than xbox/ps2. 

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« Reply #56 on: June 10, 2013, 11:59:05 PM »
Just remember, Sony says and shows a lot of things. Jack Tretton was all about some PS3 game sharing early on.
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« Reply #57 on: June 10, 2013, 11:59:35 PM »
I wouldn't be surprised if they decide to revise some of their policies. One of their recently released statements, clearly motivated by then creeping panic, stated they're subject to change in order to adapt to the market.
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« Reply #58 on: June 11, 2013, 12:01:38 AM »
Pre-ordered. #1 at my local GameStop. They had a line of people waiting as well.
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« Reply #59 on: June 11, 2013, 12:02:18 AM »
Just remember, Sony says and shows a lot of things. Jack Tretton was all about some PS3 game sharing early on.

The only thing that concerns me after those ballsy statements and videos is that there's no coming back from this. If they hasn't so much as fine print regarding used games and DRM they will be gutted.
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