Author Topic: Civ V Brave New World : Endless Cycles of Love and Self-Hate (Read 61454 times)

Eschaton · « **on:** June 15, 2013, 07:47:17 PM »

blah blah blah Civ IV is better blah blah.

Now that we have that out of the way, is anyone else as hyped as I am to waste 30$ on this crap?

New Features, Civs summarized:

http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=490854

Frag's OT on GAF:

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=611941

JULY 8th, 2013

archie4208 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 15, 2013, 08:39:01 PM »

Preordered. Been replaying Civ5 while waiting and I can only hope it fixes the mid to late game doldrums.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 15, 2013, 08:47:20 PM »

I did get bored with Civ 5 since it seemed combat was basicly the way to go. I always like Democacy and culture victories so needless to say I'm waiting for this expansion.

I actually feel like Civ 5 is a good game. It was honestly hard to go back to 4 since the combat in 5 is so much better. It's just 4 is just a better rounded game. Though, 5 is on it's way there.

headwalk · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2013, 08:57:15 PM »

pretty buzzed about trade routes creating a legit reason for naval supremacy beyond imperial-peen wish fulfilment.

archie4208 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 15, 2013, 09:32:21 PM »

Industrial is where I start to get bored. Most of the map has been explored and people are cementing their main strategy. It generally feels like you're going through the motions after that.

Damian79 · « **Reply #5 on:** June 15, 2013, 10:45:43 PM »

Did they fix the whole ranged units being overpowered thing?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #6 on:** June 15, 2013, 10:50:40 PM »

Quote from: archie4208 on June 15, 2013, 09:32:21 PM

Industrial is where I start to get bored. Most of the map has been explored and people are cementing their main strategy. It generally feels like you're going through the motions after that.

This. I also find that if one of the aggressive civs has just a bit a tech advantage going into industrial, they start whipping the floor with the other civs/myself. Thus I usually go over militaristic in this era and then a dom victory just seems easier than the others.

Damian79 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 15, 2013, 11:28:24 PM »

Sigh. So we still need to ban China(that is who makes chu no kus right?) and England(3 range bowmen is bullshit) and ban building of the Great Wall(makes ranged even more powerful). They really need to buff cavalries so they can actually kill ranged units easier. because in my multiplayer games it is like nothing but ranged units.

Damian79 · « **Reply #8 on:** June 16, 2013, 02:38:47 AM »

It is really useful for kiting.

Damian79 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 16, 2013, 03:11:35 AM »

Ah yes camel archers we ban them too. But i didnt know keshiks were like that, what race are they?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #10 on:** June 16, 2013, 03:28:45 AM »

Hows Poland?

Damian79 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 16, 2013, 03:37:05 AM »

Quote from: Eschaton on June 16, 2013, 03:19:09 AM

Mongolian/Attila

I think we also ban attile the hun because for his battering ram early game thing with his horse archers.

archie4208 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 16, 2013, 11:45:09 AM »

I tried to play some Civ 4 earlier.

I-I just can't do it. The UI is so bad and there are a few mechanics that instantly turned me off (mostly unit stacking and moving units across water being so tedious).

I need BNW like yesterday.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #13 on:** June 18, 2013, 10:18:17 AM »

I've been keenly watching development on this. The culture and diplomatic victory desperately needed overhauls, so I'm glad that is where Firaxis have put their focus.

It's hard to evaluate all the changes line by line, but the trade routes has to be the biggest. Apparently most of the gold economy is going to be based off of trade route income, so it turns out to be a huge nerf to rivers (needed) and that should open up wider strategies a bit more (tradition cities + civil service was really powerful).

Brehvolution · « **Reply #14 on:** June 18, 2013, 11:14:58 AM »

It's going to be a whole new game to me which is why I'm excited. Having put 700+ hours into the game, I've gotten into routines in the beginning of the game which has kind of made it a bit boring.
Finally, a reason to have a navy.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #15 on:** June 18, 2013, 11:45:47 AM »

I've been waiting for this too. I've played very little of Gods & Kings but will be jumping right into this one

Brehvolution · « **Reply #16 on:** June 18, 2013, 02:30:55 PM »

I don't have one. I just use Random every time I play. Lately, I've been setting up games with around 10 city states and 6 players on a huge map. I love when I have a huge island all to myself.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #17 on:** June 18, 2013, 04:20:55 PM »

Quote from: Zero Hero on June 18, 2013, 02:30:55 PM

I don't have one. I just use Random every time I play. Lately, I've been setting up games with around 10 city states and 6 players on a huge map. I love when I have a huge island all to myself.

I usually choose random as well unless I want a specific type of victory. Largest map I can get with water, marathon game, lots of city states and opponents. I like my long games.

Fragamemnon · « **Reply #18 on:** June 18, 2013, 11:39:04 PM »

Ottomans are a complete riot to play on water maps. Capture some barb galleys, build a half dozen galleasses, go into Renaissance via Astronomy, oxford Navigation. The fast frigate timing push is absurd, you will have caravels capping ships left and right and due to the UA you can afford a huge navy. It's a lot of fun.

I random as well on Immortal for casual play, Deity when feeling masochistic.

archie4208 · « **Reply #19 on:** June 19, 2013, 12:20:58 PM »

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Woops :I

Also I'm a dirty casual that struggles on King.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #20 on:** June 19, 2013, 11:54:26 PM »

king is where i'm at.

Damian79 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 21, 2013, 12:14:53 AM »

It says $50($45 10% preorder reduction) on steam for me.

Where can i download for $30?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #22 on:** June 21, 2013, 01:56:32 AM »

26$ on steam for me.

Damian79 · « **Reply #23 on:** June 21, 2013, 04:09:40 AM »

Thanks got it from GMG for $20(with the free voucher on website).

Damian79 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 27, 2013, 04:09:03 PM »

Anyone up for a bore only civ 5 game? We'll set a time so we all can play together?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #25 on:** June 27, 2013, 04:12:13 PM »

Damian79 · « **Reply #26 on:** July 06, 2013, 11:11:02 AM »

Up for it until BNW hits because i will have to play with my other Aussie friends. I like how they stealth added hybrid mode.

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MULTIPLAYER
New Mode - Sequential - Similar to the way Single Player works, each player takes turns making their moves.
New Mode - Hybrid - turns are simultaneous as they've worked in the past, but when wars are declared, any players involved in the wars switch to sequential until the war is resolved. All other uninvolved players still play simultaneous.

archie4208 · « **Reply #27 on:** July 08, 2013, 10:34:54 AM »

26 hours to go.

Gonna start with Venice on Price to learn the new mechanics.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #28 on:** July 08, 2013, 04:24:22 PM »

8 hours to go.

I'm going to shoshone it up right away.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #29 on:** July 08, 2013, 04:57:46 PM »

Had a shower and after long soul searching I decided I'm going either large islands or archipelago, king, large, with shoshone for either of the changed victories. I've been dominating king lately so this should give a decent challenge.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #30 on:** July 08, 2013, 05:22:42 PM »

7 hours!!!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #31 on:** July 08, 2013, 05:31:36 PM »

Does any one know how the new multiplayer works?

pilonv1 · « **Reply #32 on:** July 08, 2013, 06:27:23 PM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on July 08, 2013, 05:22:42 PM

7 hours!!!

3 days for me

Damian79 · « **Reply #33 on:** July 08, 2013, 06:30:48 PM »

Quote from: pilonv1 on July 08, 2013, 06:27:23 PM

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on July 08, 2013, 05:22:42 PM
7 hours!!!

3 days for me

Same.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #34 on:** July 08, 2013, 06:31:06 PM »

sucker. 5.5 hours!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #35 on:** July 08, 2013, 06:47:17 PM »

City routes are still in the game and are separate from international trade routes.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #36 on:** July 08, 2013, 07:34:03 PM »

4.5 hours

magus · « **Reply #37 on:** July 08, 2013, 07:42:04 PM »

Quote from: Eschaton on July 08, 2013, 05:23:38 PM

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dang what the heck did you do to gandhi?

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pardon LORD gandhi

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Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #38 on:** July 08, 2013, 07:44:29 PM »

Settled next to him.

magus · « **Reply #39 on:** July 08, 2013, 08:17:53 PM »

Quote from: Eschaton on July 08, 2013, 07:46:52 PM

Gandhi is actually a fucking asshole, his favoritism toward nuking and nuke building is the highest in the game. It's a leftover running joke from the series

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It's actually really annoying how they handle India, which should be one of the most powerful and interesting Civs to play with its history and contributions to the world. I wish they'd replace Gandhi with Asoka if they were trying to make it a warmonger civ via the AI. As a result of the joke India isnt fun to play against really, since its UA is focused on a cultural victory it's like the civ is fighting itself.

ah-ah i had no idea,that's pretty funny

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #40 on:** July 08, 2013, 08:19:05 PM »

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #41 on:** July 08, 2013, 08:55:06 PM »

wow scramble for africa looks good. Never played any of the other scenarios before.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #42 on:** July 08, 2013, 09:11:24 PM »

Same. But this video makes it look so fun.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #43 on:** July 08, 2013, 09:54:52 PM »

2 hours!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #44 on:** July 08, 2013, 11:30:52 PM »

I got an update!

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #45 on:** July 08, 2013, 11:38:57 PM »

O shit something is installing

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #46 on:** July 08, 2013, 11:39:44 PM »

32 of 42

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #47 on:** July 08, 2013, 11:40:01 PM »

35 of 42

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #48 on:** July 08, 2013, 11:42:28 PM »

wasn't BNW

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #49 on:** July 08, 2013, 11:46:48 PM »

live scramble for africa in 17 mins for you dirty left out Europeans http://www.twitch.tv/maddjinn

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #50 on:** July 09, 2013, 12:07:59 AM »

me too

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #51 on:** July 09, 2013, 03:04:22 AM »

wow I fucked up my first game. I tried to focus on too many things at once and I didn't understand then new mechanics. I raced to meet everyone thinking it would open up the world congress, which it didn't. Shoshone are decent. The selection restarts every time you change eras so I got 3 free pop, 1 culture, 1 religion, 2 techs, 1 upgrade without having to select map or barbs. You still can't buy tiles outside of the normal range though which sucks.

pilonv1 · « **Reply #52 on:** July 09, 2013, 08:50:32 AM »

Quote from: TheInfelicitousDandy on July 09, 2013, 03:04:22 AM

wow I fucked up my first game. I tried to focus on too many things at once

Sounds like every Civ game I ever play.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #53 on:** July 09, 2013, 11:04:44 AM »

Ya the game is really fucking snappy. So fast.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #54 on:** July 09, 2013, 11:10:19 AM »

So I think I need to restart in order to win like I wanted to. I made the mistake of going with one super tall city (because my island was a tundra desert

and I couldn't get to neighboring good islands fast enough with Polynesia as a neighbor). So I don't have enough great artist slots for my artists, also I'm too far to trade with most other civs so I'm slowly hurting economically.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #55 on:** July 09, 2013, 06:28:44 PM »

holy crap I can't even win a single game. Tried Shoshone, Brazil and Indonesia. Fuck.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #56 on:** July 09, 2013, 09:06:32 PM »

Ya me too. I don't really get it either. by turn 200 I have like 12 at most. How am I suppose to generate more tourism than the other civs are putting out for culture?

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #57 on:** July 10, 2013, 12:57:01 AM »

ya I'm now bad at this game.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #58 on:** July 10, 2013, 05:22:58 PM »

Got a a diplo victory. I was going for culture. had 1000 tourism by the end but there was no way I was going to beat russia without starting a war I couldn't win. Unless I used a shit load of nukes, which I could have.

Much better game. I went freedom and the first act of world congress what to go order, so I had about 100 turns of trying not to flip. I finally had all the order people in civil disobedience or what ever it was. I felt like culture was kind of finicky though. I didn't realize that it is much easier to do with a large empire than how it use to be.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #59 on:** July 10, 2013, 05:43:08 PM »

Brazil+internet+conquering 2 other capitals

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Author Topic: Civ V Brave New World : Endless Cycles of Love and Self-Hate (Read 61454 times)

Eschaton