Author Topic: Final Fantasy V 4 Job Fiesta - Restricted FFV playthrough for charity (Read 11054 times)

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #60 on:** June 17, 2013, 08:12:27 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on June 17, 2013, 08:04:03 PM

No rules against using emulators. Lots of people do so they can take screenshots.

Howard, I definitely agree it could be monetized better and if you have some ideas, I'm more than happy to pass them along to RK. I'll at least let him know the stuff you mentioned already.

I think the biggest problem right now is that the person playing and the person donating are the same. One of the best things about these runs are watching other people squirm as they play through the game in sub-optimal circumstances. So I think any improvement needs to focus on letting Person(s) B donate cash to influence the party makeup of Person A.

I'd add financial tiers with both "whitelist" and "blacklist" potential. "Whitelist" = "If I get $20, my Wind Crystal class will definitely be Monk." "Blacklist" = "If I get $20, I will be unable to roll a White or Black Mage."

Blacklist in particular would be interesting. Imagine a UI that lets you set up $20, $50 and $100 tiers with 3-5 classes per tier. As other people donate and your "sponsorship" passes each tier, the classes at that tier become "locked" and there's no way you can roll them. Stacking the donation tiers for maximum drama could almost be a game in and of itself.

On the other hand, part of what makes this so interesting is the random nature of the playthroughs, so I wouldn't want to add TOO much rigidity and ability to influence the outcome ... it's a careful balancing act.

demi · « **Reply #61 on:** June 17, 2013, 08:14:38 PM »

That's what RK does for hs initial run. You can pledge towards certain parties or jobs.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #62 on:** June 17, 2013, 08:15:25 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 17, 2013, 08:14:38 PM

That's what RK does for hs initial run. You can pledge towards certain parties or jobs.

Yeah, and that's cool for him - but I think that should be expanded to anyone playing.

I'm really jazzed about this because FFV is best FF and I like breaking games + speed runs.

demi · « **Reply #63 on:** June 18, 2013, 12:27:25 AM »

I forgot Blue Mage + Beastmaster means White Wind. Heals all around, now.

demi · « **Reply #64 on:** June 18, 2013, 01:02:14 AM »

My final team:

Blue Mage / Time Mage / Beastmaster / Dragoon

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #65 on:** June 18, 2013, 01:24:22 AM »

That team is pretty beast mode

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #66 on:** June 18, 2013, 04:20:03 PM »

Four Thieves is HARSH, can't wait for my Water job tonight...

Blue Mage is probably one of the best for this event, their versatility makes them a great way to plug any gaps in the rest of your team composition!

demi · « **Reply #67 on:** June 18, 2013, 04:29:56 PM »

Ya, thief is pretty barebones the entire game. Give them something from one of your other classes to help out.

Best I could do was give mine Mix to do some healing and such... lol

BTW, you're gonna get Berzerker

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #68 on:** June 18, 2013, 04:35:31 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 18, 2013, 04:29:56 PM

Ya, thief is pretty barebones the entire game. Give them something from one of your other classes to help out.

Best I could do was give mine Mix to do some healing and such... lol

BTW, you're gonna get Berzerker

I know.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #69 on:** June 19, 2013, 01:27:16 AM »

I got Time Mage! Thief / Time Mage ... very non-standard, but I can live with it. BREAKIN RODS ERRDAY

Himu · « **Reply #70 on:** June 19, 2013, 02:09:32 AM »

Your run is gonna be easy peasy.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #71 on:** June 20, 2013, 01:45:45 AM »

Job #3 is Ninja! My fortune has turned. And rod breaking is way OP.

Nich tho got Blue Mage AND Beastmaster...

Himu · « **Reply #72 on:** June 21, 2013, 03:15:53 AM »

My wind job is knight. Sigh.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #73 on:** June 21, 2013, 01:00:30 PM »

I'm nearly to the Earth job, but taking a time out to grindan tonza monies and stock up on at LEAST 30x each elemental rod and scroll before World 2.

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demi · « **Reply #74 on:** June 21, 2013, 01:03:49 PM »

lol. I think thats a bit overkill, myself. You dont even have Fire or Earth yet to determine your strengths and weaknesses.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #75 on:** June 21, 2013, 01:06:29 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 21, 2013, 01:03:49 PM

lol. I think thats a bit overkill, myself. You dont even have Fire or Earth yet to determine your strengths and weaknesses.

oops, I meant Earth. I have Fire (Ninja). I guess I'll get Earth before I go Super Grindan but I have a feeling I'm gonna need to rod break / scroll throw my way through most of World 2

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #76 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:23:09 PM »

...how is this game on iOS? Playable on iphone?

(yes I'm seriously considering spending $16 on this shit, shoot me now)

demi · « **Reply #77 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:26:33 PM »

Yes, it should work just fine. Graphics look like shit, but obv it aint about that lyfe.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #78 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:29:59 PM »

THEORYCRAFTING: I am Thief/Time Mage/Ninja. What would be my "best" fourth class? Samurai/Dragoon/Dancer/Chemist

I'm hoping for Chemist because I have no healer and he'd have great item synergies. Samurai could be a better tank, but would mean a lotta gil grinding to get past bosses. Dancer would be hilarious to mix with Thief/Ninja but I don't know what I'd get except Ribbons.

demi · « **Reply #79 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:30:50 PM »

Chemist, since it can heal and do other stuff like Haste, Reflect, Double HP... etc

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #80 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:33:02 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 21, 2013, 05:30:50 PM

Chemist, since it can heal and do other stuff like Haste, Reflect, Double HP... etc

Yeah... what's my second best choice? And is it considered poor sportsmanship to pay to change it to Chemist?

I know I "could" finish with just about any party, but I think a Chemist would be the most interesting.

demi · « **Reply #81 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:34:18 PM »

Dancer

demi · « **Reply #82 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:36:14 PM »

I dont think it would be poor sportsmanship, but it means you're bitchmade

I beat it with a pretty shitty team (Thief/Berzerk/Geomancer/Chemist), you already have the advantage of Ninja and Time Mage (Quick = 2 turns; Meteo/Comet; Hastega...).

Dont forget you can do subclassing. Your Thief can do some Dancing, or Mixing, or Casting spells as support.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #83 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:42:05 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 21, 2013, 05:36:14 PM

I dont think it would be poor sportsmanship, but it means you're bitchmade

I beat it with a pretty shitty team (Thief/Berzerk/Geomancer/Chemist), you already have the advantage of Ninja and Time Mage (Quick = 2 turns; Meteo/Comet; Hastega...).

Dont forget you can do subclassing. Your Thief can do some Dancing, or Mixing, or Casting spells as support.

Yeah, self-hasting Ninjas are pretty Beast Mode. I'll play like a man and keep my cash.

demi · « **Reply #84 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:44:59 PM »

Make sure you grab the Elven Mantle from the Walse Castle Basement. Great evasion rate. Just save beforehand, Jackanapes fuck you up.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #85 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:47:07 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 21, 2013, 05:44:59 PM

Make sure you grab the Elven Mantle from the Walse Castle Basement. Great evasion rate. Just save beforehand, Jackanapes fuck you up.

I got it, thanks for the reminder. I'm worried I'm gonna miss some gear which is way more serious when you're so class restricted.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #86 on:** June 21, 2013, 07:25:28 PM »

I think I'm going to wait and do this next year, because I have a metric fuck ton of school work, my jobby job, a crippling PAD addiction, and a potential new ladyfriend. So, no time basically.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #87 on:** June 21, 2013, 09:11:50 PM »

D-d-d-dancer. $:-\$

So that's Thief/Time Mage/Ninja/Dancer

I'll survive. I'll ... dodge attacks.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #88 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:16:47 PM »

Yeah, actually my Dancer is gonna be bonkers in endgame thanks to Sword Dance gear + dual-wielding

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #89 on:** June 21, 2013, 10:25:22 PM »

I only ever played the Anthology version of it, and it's probably been... 12ish years I wanna say? I remember being super impressed by the job system.

MAYBE OBAMA COULD PLAY IT AND FIGURE SOME SHIT OUT, THANKS A LOT OBAMA

demi · « **Reply #90 on:** June 22, 2013, 12:56:32 PM »

Got my chiken knife... at the pyramid now

Himu · « **Reply #91 on:** June 22, 2013, 01:20:33 PM »

Good luck. I'm at the ship graveyard. I'm nothing but knight. No heals so it is tricky but knight has good defense, crit, guard, AND cover so I got my bases covered. Trying not to waste tonics (yes I'm playing Anthology version). Plan on getting to fire today. Shouldn't be that long now.

Himu · « **Reply #92 on:** June 22, 2013, 02:08:26 PM »

Man, I have new respect for FFV which I didn't think possible given Ilove the game highly. But my knight run of the fiesta is actually challenging. I am running away from half of the battles in this dungeon because I skipped out on armor at the last town. I can do damage but my defense is weakkkk. Can't wait to fight the boss. :p

its the Sfam version tougher the advance version? Because lol. Haven't played sfam since 2000.

demi · « **Reply #93 on:** June 23, 2013, 05:36:16 PM »

I got soooooooooooooooo lucky with this one.

I left the last part the middle, so I got Meteor / Comet spam. I only won because I had whittled away during the fight. It was either it or me, but I won!

tiesto · « **Reply #94 on:** June 23, 2013, 10:55:08 PM »

5 is my favorite FF by far, but I've never done the 4 Job Fiesta... it always conveniently happens when I'm either super busy or hardcore deep into another game.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #95 on:** June 28, 2013, 03:59:28 PM »

Just finished Fork Tower with my Thief/Time Mage/Ninja/Dancer party.

Trying to figure out the best policy against Exdeath:
- Everyone gets two weapons!
- Everyone can cast Meteor!
- Everyone can equip a Ribbon!

Is there any sort of a "Panacea" item? Without White Magic to bulk-remove debuffs, Grand Cross could take me, like, 14 turns to remove. Ribbons it may be.

demi · « **Reply #96 on:** June 28, 2013, 04:09:14 PM »

Get the Magic Lamp. It's a quick kill against one part of Neo, and Shoat is a possible second kill.

Meteor spam would be a good choice.

Get the Chicken Knife and max it out.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #97 on:** June 28, 2013, 04:25:42 PM »

Quote from: demi on June 28, 2013, 04:09:14 PM

Get the Magic Lamp. It's a quick kill against one part of Neo, and Shoat is a possible second kill.

Meteor spam would be a good choice.

Get the Chicken Knife and max it out.

Already did. WTF would anyone take the Brave Blade. That's a sucker's game.

EDIT: It looks like Magic Lamp lets non-Summoners call Summons? *sigh* I have been avoiding Summons 'cause I didn't think they had any purpose for me. :'(

Well, you mostly want it for the Baha(mut) Blast, so not too terrible.

EDIT2: Do you even need to have "gotten" the summon for Magic Lamp to call it?

EDIT3: Probably not a bad idea to charge Wonder Wand up to the -Ga spells and unload in the last battle, too.

demi · « **Reply #98 on:** June 28, 2013, 04:31:50 PM »

You want Magic Lamp for Odin, and Shoat. Also for some bosses in the Void that it can help out on.

No, all summons are available. It runs in a set order. Look up the order and you can set the Lamp to be ready for a specific summon.

You can then recharge the lamp by going back to the place you got it.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #99 on:** June 29, 2013, 12:16:40 AM »

oh god what am i doing here i have poor willpower

so, caved. got thief.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #100 on:** June 29, 2013, 01:50:06 AM »

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where can i get my pussy ass band of thieves more fucking knives or daggers?

Himu · « **Reply #101 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:02:18 AM »

Go to Tule.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #102 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:14:32 AM »

Wrong-o! Tule has broadswords, rods and staffs. Staves. Whatever. They ain't got knives or daggers. Unless I can get them somewhere other than the weapon shop.

Himu · « **Reply #103 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:27:38 AM »

Continue on to the passage then and buy shit ton of pots in Tule first. Good fucking luck.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #104 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:31:55 AM »

:'(

Yeah, about what I figured. Gotta do what I can though.

Treesong- you got Thief to start. What did you do in the early game, just grind a fuckton?

Himu · « **Reply #105 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:32:56 AM »

Good news: those potions will help with the undead at the ship graveyard. Honestly wouldn't worry about it, tho Garula will be tough.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #106 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:51:18 AM »

...if I wanted to be a pussy I could toss in a donation to change my job to blue mage. Or, I could even just change my run to natural, and that way only Bartz would have to use Thief right now. That wouldn't cost me anything!

...too bad I'm not a pussy!

Himu · « **Reply #107 on:** June 29, 2013, 03:22:54 AM »

Himu · « **Reply #108 on:** June 29, 2013, 03:27:56 AM »

Got summoner for my second job btw.

demi · « **Reply #109 on:** June 29, 2013, 09:08:02 AM »

Steal Daggers from Skeletons in the Ship Graveyard

Himu · « **Reply #110 on:** June 29, 2013, 09:35:48 AM »

Haha, I forgot the skeletons dropped daggers there.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #111 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:10:11 PM »

Made it through the ship graveyard, but I haven't bothered to grind basically at all. So, gonna do some of that before I seriously try to tackle North Mountain with four thieves.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #112 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:25:53 PM »

Quote from: Creepy Old Guy on June 29, 2013, 02:10:11 PM

Made it through the ship graveyard, but I haven't bothered to grind basically at all. So, gonna do some of that before I seriously try to tackle North Mountain with four thieves.

I still remember when I got my second dagger from a Skeleton

I was like OH YEAH! IT'S ONNNN NOWWWWW

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #113 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:27:55 PM »

Duuuuude. It was brutal up until that point... Once I had two daggers and a knife though, it became much easier. Basically just gotta toss all your gil into potions is what I've been doing.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #114 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:31:39 PM »

Yeah, four Thieves is one of the more brutal starting jobs...but Stealing can actually get you good gear to use/sell, and the Chicken Knife is WAY OP

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #115 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:39:34 PM »

And the ONLY job I think it's fair to buy your way out of is Berserker

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #116 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:58:04 PM »

ARGLEBARGLE

lv 11 appears to be too low to beat Magissa/Forza with 4 thieves... or maybe I really AM a huge pussy.

Himu · « **Reply #117 on:** June 29, 2013, 02:59:28 PM »

This run Magissa was easy. So easy that Forza didn't even come out. I just killed Magissa in a few turns. I've never done that. What happened to her husband?

Level 11? My guys are level 10 and I'm at the fire crystal.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #118 on:** June 29, 2013, 03:08:22 PM »

...did you get thief to start?

Himu · « **Reply #119 on:** June 29, 2013, 03:10:18 PM »

Got knight.

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Author Topic: Final Fantasy V 4 Job Fiesta - Restricted FFV playthrough for charity (Read 11054 times)