DF: So the PS4 experience is crappy framerate shitfest

[headwalk]

as per: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-playstation-4

20-30FPS across the board.

[maxy]

 
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[Powerslave]

Yeah definitely deflates my hype to get it day one. To be honest my desire of a white ps4 diminishes my needs for a launch black ps4 more heh..

[maxy]

Welcome to the console launch.Don't be surprised if you see a large system update on day one too.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Yeah guys it will be 20fps at launch 

Ms hasnt even shown games running on xbone

[maxy]

Yeah guys it will be 20fps at launch 

Ms hasnt even shown games running on xbone

They have,Forza was running on Xbone.Some other games too.

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-hands-on-with-xbox-one

[Hitler Stole My Potato]

Everyone being up in arms about framerates now is kind of ridiculous.  These things are beta builds running on god only knows what stage of developmental hardware with early tool sets.  Is anyone really surprised by any of this?

[mjemirzian]

The sky is falling!

I thought most people preferred 30 fps w/ pretty effects over 60 fps.

[maxy]

The sky is falling!

I thought most people preferred 30 fps w/ pretty effects over 60 fps.

If that's the case then Sony is doing pretty crappy job.

I don't see people or media drooling over PS4 30 fps gfx.I see them drooling over 60fps Source Xbone game.

[mjemirzian]

Isn't that because it plays like Call of Duty with wall jumping and giant mechs?

[Himu]

Everyone being up in arms about framerates now is kind of ridiculous.  These things are beta builds running on god only knows what stage of developmental hardware with early tool sets.  Is anyone really surprised by any of this?

Nailed it. The only thing this serves to fuel are console wars.

[maxy]

Isn't that because it plays like Call of Duty with wall jumping and giant mechs?

Yeah,but it kinda shows people priorities.

[archie4208]

Shouldn't 60 FPS be easy for  -tan?

[Rufus]

The sky is falling!

I thought most people preferred 30 fps w/ pretty effects over 60 fps.

If that's the case then Sony is doing pretty crappy job.

I don't see people or media drooling over PS4 30 fps gfx.I see them drooling over 60fps Source Xbone game.

Just pointing this out for someone like Powerslave or other Sony fans. What's with this fanwar incompetency, letting him get away with that, tsk tsk.

[Brehvolution]

Probably just lazy devs.

[maxy]

The sky is falling!

I thought most people preferred 30 fps w/ pretty effects over 60 fps.

If that's the case then Sony is doing pretty crappy job.

I don't see people or media drooling over PS4 30 fps gfx.I see them drooling over 60fps Source Xbone game.

Just pointing this out for someone like Powerslave or other Sony fans. What's with this fanwar incompetency, letting him get away with that, tsk tsk.

You can remove PS4 30 fps.My point was that diminishing returns are real,the more power you have the harder you can notice gfx difference between 30 and 60 fps.

So why not go with 60fps then?

I'm not talking about tech issues,just audience response.

[cool breeze]

Everyone being up in arms about framerates now is kind of ridiculous.  These things are beta builds running on god only knows what stage of developmental hardware with early tool sets.  Is anyone really surprised by any of this?

Right.  All these games will likely be solid 30fps at launch.

But I can understand people pretending to be upset that they're not targeting 60fps.  In all fairness, Nintendo's Wii U games (except a Gamecube port, oddly) are 1080p 60fps, and Microsoft promised that some Xbone games are targeting 60fps.  If you ignore every other than frame rate numbers, I'm sure you can finagle it into a talking point.

[Rufus]

I'm not talking about tech issues,just audience response.

Yes, exactly. Your point revolves around something you pulled out of your ass for all I know. I would expect the fanboys to pounce on that, but I guess not everyone has Mama Robotnik's dedication.

[maxy]

I'm not talking about tech issues,just audience response.

Yes, exactly. Your point revolves around something you pulled out of your ass for all I know. I would expect the fanboys to pounce on that, but I guess not everyone has Mama Robotnik's dedication.

My point was that times were you could sell something on graphics are coming to an end.Even smartphones are reaching the point were average consumer will say:"that looks good enough,whatever".

Industry will have to address that sooner or later.

[MCD]

I honestly would prefer Killzone to run at 30fps. I like that "heavy" feel to it, contrary to COD games where I feel light as a feather.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Maxy please try harder. You're grasping at straws.

Isn't there any good Xbone news to post about?

 

[Tasty]

Probably just lazy devs.

Impossible, the only lazy devs are on Weeeoooo. Thus we can conclude they don't exist.

[Rufus]

I honestly would prefer Killzone to run at 30fps. I like that "heavy" feel to it, contrary to COD games where I feel light as a feather.

You like input lag? Different animations can give you your "heavy" feel at higher framerates as well.

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GAF repost?

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[maxy]

Maxy please try harder. You're grasping at straws.

Isn't there any good Xbone news to post about?

 

Believe what you want,just don't act surprised when consumers reject $60 next gen graphics games.

 

[MCD]

I honestly would prefer Killzone to run at 30fps. I like that "heavy" feel to it, contrary to COD games where I feel light as a feather.

You like input lag? Different animations can give you your "heavy" feel at higher framerates as well.

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GAF repost?

[close]

yes lol

[Cerveza mas fina]

Maxy please try harder. You're grasping at straws.

Isn't there any good Xbone news to post about?

 

Believe what you want,just don't act surprised when consumers reject $60 next gen graphics games.

 

jesus Christ what are you on about

[Don Flamenco]

I honestly would prefer Killzone to run at 30fps. I like that "heavy" feel to it, contrary to COD games where I feel light as a feather.

You like input lag? Different animations can give you your "heavy" feel at higher framerates as well.

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GAF repost?

[close]

yes lol

Camera on a stick guns are not so light in real life

then they patched it out

[maxy]

Maxy please try harder. You're grasping at straws.

Isn't there any good Xbone news to post about?

 

Believe what you want,just don't act surprised when consumers reject $60 next gen graphics games.

 

jesus Christ what are you on about

Nothing,I just said what I think about teh gfx,30 vs 60 fps and the future of gaming industry.

Still love you,though.

[Rahxephon91]

Well I just hope Battlefield 4 turns out fine. Kind of the only launch title I'm looking forward to.

[headwalk]

i look forward for sony's oculus rip-off. 720p per eye, 25fps with a quarter second of input lag. comes with cerebral palsy: mental welfare pack in.

[Smooth Groove]

Weekend Confirmed also mentioned that Xbone games looked better than PS4

It's interesting that the PS4 is having more tech hiccups right now, considering it's more powerful and has a conventional design like Xbone

Is it because MS sent out dev kits earlier?

[Madrun Badrun]

Weekend Confirmed also mentioned that Xbone games looked better than PS4

It's interesting that the PS4 is having more tech hiccups right now, considering it's more powerful and has a conventional design like Xbone

Is it because MS sent out dev kits earlier?

Isn't because ps4 games are actually running on ps4s at this point and xbox games are still being shown on dev units. 

[Huff]

weekend confirmed is kinda a bunch of morons.

not that i doubt its true. going to be interesting to see how it turns out at launch

[Smooth Groove]

Weekend Confirmed also mentioned that Xbone games looked better than PS4

It's interesting that the PS4 is having more tech hiccups right now, considering it's more powerful and has a conventional design like Xbone

Is it because MS sent out dev kits earlier?

Isn't because ps4 games are actually running on ps4s at this point and xbox games are still being shown on dev units.

probably, PC is the best next-gen system

[cool breeze]

There wasn't much to compare.  Of tech demos/in-engine stuff, that old man wizard shit looked amazing but so did Quantum Break and The Order.  iirc Infamous wasn't playable, or else that'd be the best looking 'game.'  Forza looks better than Driveclub, though Driveclub is open world or something?  I dunno.  At this point neither had a clear advantage.  Whatever the gap between PS4 and X180, there's a much greater one between them and the PS3/360/WiiU.

[Diunx]

Weekend Confirmed also mentioned that Xbone games looked better than PS4

It's interesting that the PS4 is having more tech hiccups right now, considering it's more powerful and has a conventional design like Xbone

Is it because MS sent out dev kits earlier?

Isn't because ps4 games are actually running on ps4s at this point and xbox games are still being shown on dev units. 

Yep, even on Jimmy Fallon they were playing with fighting sticks and a fucking driving similator for Forza, Knack was being played with a Dualshock 4.

[Damian79]

Next gen is gonna suck hard.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Yeah bf4 on "xbone" was running on w7 pcs with nvidia 

Thing seems no way near done

[Rufus]

That's no surprise whatsoever. Things were running on PCs at E3 since forever.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Well why does it suprise people then then fake xbone shit runs better?

[Rufus]

Becasue consolewars. Also people are stupid.

[headwalk]

watch_dogs running live on PS4 (full screen for full experience):



 

for posterity:

[mjemirzian]

I remember reading the 2012 E3 reveal was running on a GTX 680. No surprise there.

[Great Rumbler]

Ubisoft launch titles 

[maxy]

but but 8 GDDR5 will make PS4 games run at 1080p 60fps

lol

[Smooth Groove]

So was Forza running on real Xbone hardware or just BS?

[cool breeze]

Wow what happened looks & plays like shyte now.

Far Cry 3 also had a significant downgrade from E3 to release.  But I'm sure The Division will look like that at launch.

Also, it's five months off.  For some reason the demo shown on Jimmy Fallon wasn't the more polished looking demo from E3.

[Himu]

So was Forza running on real Xbone hardware or just BS?

PC.

[Don Flamenco]

but but 8 GDDR5 will make PS4 games run at 1080p 60fps

lol

that's not how hardware works

maxy playing neogaf-style console politics 

[Diunx]

Maxy is quickly becoming the new Andrex.

[Himu]

A PRE ALPHA LAUNCH UBISOFT TITLE LOOKS UNOPTIMIZED SIX MONTHS BEFORE LAUNCH.

call the press.

[maxy]

So was Forza running on real Xbone hardware or just BS?

PC.

Xbone,read DF article.

but but 8 GDDR5 will make PS4 games run at 1080p 60fps

lol

that's not how hardware works

maxy playing neogaf-style console politics 

No shit.
That certainly didn't stop bunch of people dreaming.

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even on bore

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[Don Flamenco]

So was Forza running on real Xbone hardware or just BS?

PC.

Xbone,read DF article.

but but 8 GDDR5 will make PS4 games run at 1080p 60fps

lol

that's not how hardware works

maxy playing neogaf-style console politics 

No shit.
That certainly didn't stop bunch of people dreaming.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

even on bore

[close]

I don't recall needing to tell anyone that good hardware automatically = 1080p 60fps. 

but you did just assume good hardware should automatically mean games run better

[Great Rumbler]

A LAUNCH UBISOFT TITLE LOOKS UNOPTIMIZED AT LAUNCH.

.

[maxy]

but but 8 GDDR5 will make PS4 games run at 1080p 60fps

lol

that's not how hardware works

maxy playing neogaf-style console politics 

No shit.
That certainly didn't stop bunch of people dreaming.

spoiler (click to show/hide)

even on bore

[close]

I don't recall needing to tell anyone that good hardware automatically = 1080p 60fps. 

but you did just assume good hardware should automatically mean games run better

No objection from my side.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Maxy so you think multiplat games will run better on xbone?

If not, whats your effin point?