Author Topic: "Family Sharing" was NEVER real. 45 minute demos, not full games. (Read 3857 times)

Howard Alan Treesong · « **on:** June 20, 2013, 11:40:07 AM »

This deserves its own thread.

http://www.heyuguysgaming.com/news/12507/heartbroken-xbox-one-employee-lets-rip-must-read

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First is family sharing, this feature is near and dear to me and I truly felt it would have helped the industry grow and make both gamers and developers happy. The premise is simple and elegant, when you buy your games for Xbox One, you can set any of them to be part of your shared library. Anyone who you deem to be family had access to these games regardless of where they are in the world. There was never any catch to that, they didn’t have to share the same billing address or physical address it could be anyone. When your family member accesses any of your games, they’re placed into a special demo mode. This demo mode in most cases would be the full game with a 15-45 minute timer and in some cases an hour. This allowed the person to play the game, get familiar with it then make a purchase if they wanted to. When the time limit was up they would automatically be prompted to the Marketplace so that they may order it if liked the game.

SUFFER

LIKE

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DID

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #1 on:** June 20, 2013, 11:42:08 AM »

Thanks for ruining ms vision of the future dirty poors

Himu · « **Reply #2 on:** June 20, 2013, 11:45:15 AM »

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Diunx · « **Reply #3 on:** June 20, 2013, 11:49:09 AM »

magus · « **Reply #4 on:** June 20, 2013, 11:57:01 AM »

if it was just demo what was the whole point of sharing then? just put the demo online

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #5 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:00:00 PM »

Cuz theres almost no demos

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:01:15 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:01:30 PM »

Oh yeah, let me download this 25GB game so I can get up in that 15 minute demo.

Barry Egan · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2013, 12:34:39 PM »

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There was never any catch to [the family plan]

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15-45 minute timer

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There was never any catch to [the family plan]

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15-45 minute timer

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There was never any catch to [the family plan]

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15-45 minute timer

the last time I read something this obtuse it was a G post in an Xbone thread.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #9 on:** June 20, 2013, 01:28:34 PM »

Quote from: Borys on June 20, 2013, 11:43:21 AM

Locked on GAF already.

Stop spreading FUD.

/MCD

For real?

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #10 on:** June 20, 2013, 01:34:22 PM »

Quote from: Shaka Khan on June 20, 2013, 01:28:34 PM

Quote from: Borys on June 20, 2013, 11:43:21 AM
Locked on GAF already.

Stop spreading FUD.

/MCD

For real?

The source is Pastebin so it may or may not be real, but it's Microsoft, so it's probably real.

Rman · « **Reply #11 on:** June 20, 2013, 01:34:47 PM »

Yawn. I'm not believing a pastebin.

Thanks, Luddites and poors for killing this awesome feature.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #12 on:** June 20, 2013, 04:30:43 PM »

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #13 on:** June 20, 2013, 04:35:53 PM »

I'm just disappointed Drinky's posting on pastebin instead of here.

MCD · « **Reply #14 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:14:37 PM »

cboat implying it's 60: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=65154131&postcount=1401

still fud

Steve Contra · « **Reply #15 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:16:20 PM »

at anyone thinking the 10 person sharing thing was like they said it was.

cool breeze · « **Reply #16 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:24:43 PM »

This sounds like PS+ full game trials where you could play an hour of the full game, except you need a friend to own the game to access that functionality. Or how xbox 360 indie game work on a 5 minute timer. Shareware is BACK!

Diunx · « **Reply #17 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:45:00 PM »

Only shitty PS+ doesn't have the infinite power of the cloud.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #18 on:** June 20, 2013, 05:51:50 PM »

Quote from: fryinghigh on June 20, 2013, 05:24:43 PM

Shareware was almost BACK!

ftfy

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #19 on:** June 20, 2013, 06:08:11 PM »

"And here I was all ready to buy 1, get 9 free! What gives, Microsoft!"

Purple Filth · « **Reply #20 on:** June 20, 2013, 06:10:25 PM »

CBOAT chimed in that it was apparently 60mins

I will believe him since he is usually solid as fuck with the infoz.

And with that they basically took another thing Sony has done

radioheadrule83 · « **Reply #21 on:** June 20, 2013, 06:10:27 PM »

Sounds like OnLive game demoing, except you'd have to install the game from someone's shared library first. It probably would have been okay in practice, but they did make it sound like something more.

Glad as all fuck they U-turned

cool breeze · « **Reply #22 on:** June 20, 2013, 06:51:03 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on June 20, 2013, 05:51:50 PM

Quote from: fryinghigh on June 20, 2013, 05:24:43 PM
Shareware was almost BACK!

ftfy

ok, I misread this and thought it's about the family sharing post-head unassing. If this was part of the cloud utopia, oh man.

now I'm disappointed Microsoft didn't wait until detailing family sharing to backpedal.

Shaka Khan · « **Reply #23 on:** June 20, 2013, 06:53:14 PM »

Told you guys it was a bait and switch lawl

G The Resurrected · « **Reply #24 on:** June 21, 2013, 02:33:53 PM »

I didn't believe in any of the time limit crap, and rightfully so. Here are just a few bit's from those that would know how it would have worked. I believe them over some unreliable pastebin that anyone could have made.

Marc Whitten
https://twitter.com/notwen/status/348092374842474497
Aaron Greenberg
https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/statuses/347911202057379840

http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1gt1s7/microsoft_responds_to_the_recent_rumours_about/

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #25 on:** June 21, 2013, 02:37:44 PM »

What reason is there to believe what these guys say? The feature is dead and buried, never to return, so of course it was totally awesome and everybody would have loved it!

Himu · « **Reply #26 on:** June 21, 2013, 02:40:38 PM »

Quote from: G The Resurrected on June 21, 2013, 02:33:53 PM

I didn't believe in any of the time limit crap, and rightfully so. Here are just a few bit's from those that would know how it would have worked. I believe them over some unreliable pastebin that anyone could have made.

Marc Whitten
https://twitter.com/notwen/status/348092374842474497
Aaron Greenberg
https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/statuses/347911202057379840

http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1gt1s7/microsoft_responds_to_the_recent_rumours_about/

Steve Contra · « **Reply #27 on:** June 21, 2013, 02:41:47 PM »

Man G is super salty about something that was never going to happen in the first place.

demi · « **Reply #28 on:** June 21, 2013, 02:44:44 PM »

Wasn't that good of a system if there had to be a compromise in the first place...

maxy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 21, 2013, 03:11:45 PM »

Gaming industry must be made out of mental asylum rejects.Locking 50 GB demos to family share...haha
On 360 you can freely fully download any arcade game without "family" share.

Who the fuck would pay for all that bandwidth(on MS side)?

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #30 on:** June 21, 2013, 04:27:02 PM »

So, let me get this straight. There are people who really think that publishers -you know, the companies that were pushing for this kind of DRM because they think used games were bringing down profits (no matter how much blameshifting they were doing a couple of days ago) - were actually going to okay a system where they were certain to lose upwards of nine potential sales x number of consoles on every single game sold? I don't mean to insult anyone, but that's some staggering cognitive dissonance.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #31 on:** June 21, 2013, 04:31:17 PM »

There are certainly those people.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #32 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:08:55 PM »

Quote from: Eel O'Brian on June 21, 2013, 04:27:02 PM

So, let me get this straight. There are people who really think that publishers -you know, the companies that were pushing for this kind of DRM because they think used games were bringing down profits (no matter how much blameshifting they were doing a couple of days ago) - were actually going to okay a system where they were certain to lose upwards of nine potential sales x number of consoles on every single game sold? I don't mean to insult anyone, but that's some staggering cognitive dissonance.

Yep.

Seems Oscar was right about the MS fanboys this round

the only way I could see this actually happening is if MS compensated every Publisher and that is honestly fucking insane.

Quote from: G The Resurrected on June 21, 2013, 02:33:53 PM

I didn't believe in any of the time limit crap, and rightfully so. Here are just a few bit's from those that would know how it would have worked. I believe them over some unreliable pastebin that anyone could have made.

Marc Whitten
https://twitter.com/notwen/status/348092374842474497
Aaron Greenberg
https://twitter.com/aarongreenberg/statuses/347911202057379840

http://www.reddit.com/r/xboxone/comments/1gt1s7/microsoft_responds_to_the_recent_rumours_about/

Believing PR, yes because that's always been accurate

Both coming from:

the dude that stonewalled interesting questions with "so awesome" garbage after the DRM drop and

the other guy who "didn't know who this Adam Orth person was" is after his horseshit happened.

It doesn't matter now anyways since the feature is gone and no side can be seen as wrong or right.

Steve Youngblood · « **Reply #33 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:14:17 PM »

Honestly, I don't really know if it matters who you believe. Think the pastebin person is right and this was going to be pretty shitty? Think the vague PR indicates that it was really going to be this awesome thing? Ultimately, who gives a shit? They scrapped it. Maybe they scrapped it because it was worthless shit. Maybe they scrapped it because it was too awesome and publishers were never going to go for it. Whether it was a good feature or not, my working assumption is simply that it was half-baked nonsense they were making up as they went along, and they never did precisely nail down how it was really going to work.

Rufus · « **Reply #34 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:19:45 PM »

The most irrational of fanboys are never going to let this one go. Not unless someone high up at MS dispells the myth that they were going to let you have 10 copies of every game to give away.

Purple Filth · « **Reply #35 on:** June 21, 2013, 05:26:11 PM »

Quote from: Steve Youngblood on June 21, 2013, 05:14:17 PM

Honestly, I don't really know if it matters who you believe. Think the pastebin person is right and this was going to be pretty shitty? Think the vague PR indicates that it was really going to be this awesome thing? Ultimately, who gives a shit? They scrapped it. Maybe they scrapped it because it was worthless shit. Maybe they scrapped it because it was too awesome and publishers were never going to go for it. Whether it was a good feature or not, my working assumption is simply that it was half-baked nonsense they were making up as they went along, and they never did precisely nail down how it was really going to work.

Nah man a side has to be right and the other wrong.

DCharlieJP · « **Reply #36 on:** June 21, 2013, 06:13:23 PM »

called it on the RSG podcast

you do not , on one hand, create a super restrictive DRM system designed at a system level
and then on the other hand go "But guys, 10 copies for free per purchase"

The fanboys are insane on this one - and the "but cloud computing vision ruined" is even more utter nonsense.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #37 on:** June 21, 2013, 08:30:40 PM »

Ya people need to realize cloud shit is more marketing than anything else.

helios · « **Reply #38 on:** June 21, 2013, 11:45:51 PM »

Quote from: Rufus on June 21, 2013, 05:19:45 PM

The most irrational of fanboys are never going to let this one go. Not unless someone high up at MS dispells the myth that they were going to let you have 10 copies of every game to give away.

I have a coworker who fervently believes that. Publishers won't allow something like that unless there is a catch.

recursivelyenumerable · « **Reply #39 on:** June 22, 2013, 02:32:59 AM »

"we will add more digital benefits over time" aka it is still happening and all the naysayers will be proven wrong, cast into the lake of fire upon its glorious appearing. BELIEVE

maxy · « **Reply #40 on:** June 22, 2013, 07:01:52 AM »

Gies said that they had arrangements with publishers in place.There was some catch definitely but I don't buy this demo thing.360 already has that,for free and available to everyone.

Unless demo thing was insert coins,watch 5 minute ad or something.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #41 on:** June 22, 2013, 07:22:49 AM »

Quote from: maxy on June 22, 2013, 07:01:52 AM

Gies said that they had arrangements with publishers in place.There was some catch definitely but I don't buy this demo thing.360 already has that,for free and available to everyone.

Unless demo thing was insert coins,watch 5 minute ad or something.

maxy · « **Reply #42 on:** June 22, 2013, 07:48:36 AM »

Well,maybe somebody writes a book about this one day.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #43 on:** June 22, 2013, 08:22:53 AM »

Dean Takahashi's already on it

Diunx · « **Reply #44 on:** June 22, 2013, 09:19:47 AM »

Maxy and G, what you doing dudes?

maxy · « **Reply #45 on:** June 22, 2013, 09:33:10 AM »

I think there was something far more sinister below the surface.

Demo thing,blah...no self-respecting digital citizen would ever touch that,complete waste of bandwitdh,youtube is much cheaper.
We are talking about large games that sometimes have 30 minutes tutorials.I would probably still be in options menu,tweaking brightness and stuff.

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Author Topic: "Family Sharing" was NEVER real. 45 minute demos, not full games. (Read 3857 times)