ZimmerMAN is the hero we deserve

[Positive Touch]

Seems the NAACP is seeking federal civil rights charges.

http://www.naacp.org/page/s/doj-civil-rights-petition <--SIGN

[Himu]

I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.

I guess the Saudis were right all along.

[Shadow Mod]

I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.

I guess the Saudis were right all along.

Dogs are a man's best friend not black people.

[Oblivion]

"Only in America can a dead black boy go on trial for his own murder."

[Huff]

here's some double up RAGE:

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots/

(CBS News) JACKSONVILLE, Fla. - A Florida woman who fired warning shots against her allegedly abusive husband has been sentenced to 20 years in prison.

Marissa Alexander of Jacksonville had said the state's "Stand Your Ground" law should apply to her because she was defending herself against her allegedly abusive husband when she fired warning shots inside her home in August 2010. She told police it was to escape a brutal beating by her husband, against whom she had already taken out a protective order.

she would have been better off shooting her husband in "self defense"

[Shaka Khan]

I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.

I guess the Saudis were right all along.

They even dress dogs as people, while kids starve in Africa.

[Positive Touch]

she would have been better off shooting her husband in "self defense"

not really; women serve more time for killing their abusive husbands than men do for killing their wives.

[Shadow Mod]

I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.

I guess the Saudis were right all along.

They even dress dogs as people, while kids starve in Africa.

We also have more advertisements about animal abuse and neglect than we do of kids starving or homeless out on the street.

she would have been better off shooting her husband in "self defense"

not really; women serve more time for killing their abusive husbands than men do for killing their wives.

Our society is built on shitting on people who aren't white, straight and male. And a bunch of people want to act like this isn't the case time and time again.

[Himu]

I remember Saudi jokes when I was a kid about how in America if you kill a man you're fine, but if you kill a dog you get the death sentence.

I guess the Saudis were right all along.

They even dress dogs as people, while kids starve in Africa.

We also have more advertisements about animal abuse and neglect than we do of kids starving or homeless out on the street.

she would have been better off shooting her husband in "self defense"

not really; women serve more time for killing their abusive husbands than men do for killing their wives.

Our society is built on shitting on people who aren't white, straight and male. And a bunch of people want to act like this isn't the case time and time again.

[Shaka Khan]

But seriously, Saudis got it right. You kill, you get executed.

Edit:

Oh wait, the kid was black. Never mind, Saudi Zimmerman would still get away with it.

[Himu]

Mannnnnnnnnnn I cannot WAIT for the NMA edition of this shit

[Shadow Mod]

Which brings me to something that always baffled me about America.

First of all, I LOVE dogs. I've raised plenty over the years even with the huge problems that come with owning a dog in Saudi, I've always been an animal lover as I've learned a lot about animals by watching NatGeo shows as a kid. I think I may know the eating, sleeping and mating habits of most animals and I enjoy learning more about them.

But why the fuck is it that in America killing a dog is seen as a bigger atrocity than killing a man? Let's even ignore the fact that many pounds and such kill unwanted dogs if they overstayed their welcome in the US. Just because you've had a dog you loved as your pet doesn't mean that the death of some other dog should be valued over a man's life. I'm not condoning killing dogs cause that's distinguished mentally-challenged, but the fact that killing a dog is a bigger deal in the US than killing a child or teenager shows a lot of fucked up values. I know plenty of people who tell me they never cry when human beings die on screen but sob their hearts out when a dog does. I mean, I can understand being sad about a guy, girl or dog's death in a story if it was handled well enough that I got invested in the character, but the fact that any old dog dying on screen, as in not for real, makes you cry means that there's something fucked up there.

Because dogs are more than likely the powers at be pal's than some minorities they've shat on from afar their entire life. People just don't understand that the law didn't just come to be. It's been molded by the people who wield the power to write it. In America that means rich white old straight men.

[Positive Touch]

Which brings me to something that always baffled me about America.

First of all, I LOVE dogs. I've raised plenty over the years even with the huge problems that come with owning a dog in Saudi, I've always been an animal lover as I've learned a lot about animals by watching NatGeo shows as a kid. I think I may know the eating, sleeping and mating habits of most animals and I enjoy learning more about them.

But why the fuck is it that in America killing a dog is seen as a bigger atrocity than killing a man? Let's even ignore the fact that many pounds and such kill unwanted dogs if they overstayed their welcome in the US. Just because you've had a dog you loved as your pet doesn't mean that the death of some other dog should be valued over a man's life. I'm not condoning killing dogs cause that's distinguished mentally-challenged, but the fact that killing a dog is a bigger deal in the US than killing a child or teenager shows a lot of fucked up values. I know plenty of people who tell me they never cry when human beings die on screen but sob their hearts out when a dog does. I mean, I can understand being sad about a guy, girl or dog's death in a story if it was handled well enough that I got invested in the character, but the fact that any old dog dying on screen, as in not for real, makes you cry means that there's something fucked up there.

because dogs arent stealing our money and our jerbs

[Human Snorenado]

This pretty well sums things up

[Sausage]

There were basically 3 undisputable facts here

1. Zimmerman  followed Trayvon and instigated the fight

2. Trayvon was unarmed

3. Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon

I don't see how the jury didn't at least come away with a guilty verdict on manslaughter.

[Oblivion]

because dogs arent stealing our money and our women

Fixed.

Everyone knows the coloreds don't work.

[FatalT]

There were basically 3 undisputable facts here

1. Zimmerman  followed Trayvon and instigated the fight

2. Trayvon was unarmed

3. Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon

I don't see how the jury didn't at least come away with a guilty verdict on manslaughter.

You forgot the 4th fact.

4. Trayvon was black.

[Madrun Badrun]

Are white Canadians allowed to participate in the riots?  Because I need a new TV.

[Oblivion]

Oy...

‘If George Zimmerman Was Black, He Would Never Have Been Charged With A Crime’

[Human Snorenado]

Seriously.  No one ever go to Florida for vacation again.  Build a wall around that fucking shithole.

[Positive Touch]

i cant really get on board with state boycotts, living in missouri n all

[Human Snorenado]

Florida relies on tourism money to fuel their economy.  Hit them where it hurts.  Fuck that shithole.

[Oblivion]

If people didn't boycott Florida after the 2000 election, it's doubtful they'll do so now.

[FatalT]

[Himu]

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Do not do this you fucking morons

[TakingBackSunday]

There were basically 3 undisputable facts here

1. Zimmerman  followed Trayvon and instigated the fight

How is that a "fact?"

oh for FUCK'S SAKE

FUCK OFF AND DIE JAYDUBYA

seriously, you're the worst, just go die.

[nudemacusers]

Seriously.  No one ever go to Florida for vacation again.  Build a wall around that fucking shithole.

south beach bikinis tho :

[FatalT]

There were basically 3 undisputable facts here

1. Zimmerman  followed Trayvon and instigated the fight

How is that a "fact?"

oh for FUCK'S SAKE

FUCK OFF AND DIE JAYDUBYA

seriously, you're the worst, just [walk around a neighborhood in Florida with skittles and arizona tea while being black]

I made that better for you. It'll hold up in court this way, I promise.

[FatalT]

Can I shoot a black man anywhere in America or do I specifically have to travel to Florida to do it legally?

[thisismyusername]

Okay, I'll bite: Jay, give us your version of events.

[pilonv1]

I don't see how the jury didn't at least come away with a guilty verdict on manslaughter.

Agreed, I'll never understand the US legal system with decisions like this.

[TakingBackSunday]

JayDubya just gets off on being the contrarian. Even if it means looking like a dumbfuck.

Nope.  I'm just often dumbfounded and irritated by the stupidity I find myself reading and want to respond; something is wrong on the internet.

Okay, I'll bite: Jay, give us your version of events.

"My" version?  Uhhh.

How about this:

The testimony of the witnesses in the trial does not give us much, if any, data on how the fight started.  According to that testimony, it did end with Martin on top of Zimmerman hitting his head into concrete.  He has documented wounds to that effect. 

Zimmerman stated he was physically attacked first.    He doesn't deny questioning Martin; he probably was a bit of an asshole, even.  He's allowed to walk on streets and he's allowed to be an asshole. Those things aren't dangerous and they aren't illegal.  If he physically attacked Martin first, he cannot use a weapon and claim self-defense.  But if on the contrary he was attacked by Martin, he could certainly do so.

The state had to prove that Zimmerman attacked Martin; the prosecution failed to do that.  They probably could not do that with the data on hand.  It is probably accurate to say that the original outcome of not pursuing charges was due to this lack of collaborating evidence; it seems that this went to trial for purely political rather than logical reasons.

meh.

[Shaka Khan]

BrandNew, calm the fuck down.

[thisismyusername]

I don't see how the jury didn't at least come away with a guilty verdict on manslaughter.

Agreed, I'll never understand the US legal system with decisions like this.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=0700-0799/0782/Sections/0782.07.html

Earlier in the day, jurors asked the court for clarification on its instructions regarding manslaughter. Such a query couldn't even have been posed a few days ago: Judge Debra Nelson ruled Thursday, over the defense's vehement objection, to include manslaughter as an option for jurors, in addition to a second-degree murder charge.

To convict Zimmerman of manslaughter, the jurors would have had to believe that he "intentionally committed an act or acts that caused the death of Trayvon Martin." That charge could have carried a sentence of up to 30 years in prison, though the jury was not told of that possible sentence.

For second-degree murder, the jurors would have had to believe that Martin's unlawful killing was "done from ill will, hatred, spite or an evil intent" and would be "of such a nature that the act itself indicates an indifference to human life."

[drew]

There were basically 3 undisputable facts here

1. Zimmerman  followed Trayvon and instigated the fight

2. Trayvon was unarmed

3. Zimmerman shot and killed Trayvon

I don't see how the jury didn't at least come away with a guilty verdict on manslaughter.

really you only have one fact here that carries any weight, and that is the first one.  and even within that one "instigated the fight" could be disputable.  i mean sure if our boy zim hadn't followed tray tray down that sidewalk there never would have been a fight BUT was he the first one to throw?

[Eel O'Brian]

smh mexicans

[Atramental]

[DCharlieJP]

When asked by O'Mara if she detected ill will, spite or hatred in his voice when he said to the 911 dispatcher: 'F***ing punks. These a*******. They always get away', she answered no

So those are definitely Zimmerman screaming for his life and these aggressive words and the chase that followed showed no ill will.

Some people are wilfully being dumb here

[DCharlieJP]

Also - what happened to the claim zim was trained and an MMA practitioner?

Given he is at least three times the weight of Tray what was the explanation of how Tray ended up over powering zim?

[Joe Molotov]

Also - what happened to the claim zim was trained and an MMA practitioner?

Given he is at least three times the weight of Tray what was the explanation of how Tray ended up over powering zim?

They got Zimmerman's MMA instructor on the stand to testify that Zimmerman was a creampuff who couldn't fight for shit.

[D3RANG3D]

smh mexicans

He's a Peruvian kraut breh.

[Shaka Khan]

smh mexicans

He's a Peruvian kraut breh.

Tomatoes, tomatillos.

[Oblivion]

[Himu]

Says a lot when Americans riot over this and not the NSA leaks.

[Shaka Khan]

"I hope the police start cracking skulls"

"This is one of the cases where I approve of police brutality"

... I don't know what to make of these comments.

[Madrun Badrun]

PD if you happen to be rioting near a Gamestop can you put me down for a Xbone preorder; I don't want to pay the $5 preorder deposit. 

[D3RANG3D]

"I hope the police start cracking skulls"

"This is one of the cases where I approve of police brutality"

... I don't know what to make of these comments.

>Not getting the herp derp youtube plugin for your browser.

[Joe Molotov]

"I hope the police start cracking skulls"

"This is one of the cases where I approve of police brutality"

... I don't know what to make of these comments.

The people rioting are black.

[Positive Touch]

this isnt real its a video from canada; theres mountains in the background ffs. no one is fucking rioting, but there are assholes renaming videos to provoke anger. stop spreading fud

[Madrun Badrun]

I wondered when they mentioned Harper, lol.

[Shaka Khan]

Thank you based Positive.

"I hope the police start cracking skulls"

"This is one of the cases where I approve of police brutality"

... I don't know what to make of these comments.

>Not getting the herp derp youtube plugin for your browser.

Those comments were made by the people in the video.

[Oblivion]

this isnt real its a video from canada; theres mountains in the background ffs. no one is fucking rioting, but there are assholes renaming videos to provoke anger. stop spreading fud

Oh, shit. That video's about black people rioting in Canada? My bad.

[D3RANG3D]

Thank you based Positive.

"I hope the police start cracking skulls"

"This is one of the cases where I approve of police brutality"

... I don't know what to make of these comments.

>Not getting the herp derp youtube plugin for your browser.

Those comments were made by the people in the video.

 

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[DCharlieJP]

Zimmerman stated he was physically attacked first.  He doesn't deny questioning Martin; he probably was a bit of an asshole, even.  He's allowed to walk on streets and he's allowed to be an asshole.  Those things aren't dangerous and they aren't illegal. 

Bullshit

If you are going to walk around and make judgement calls base on your own predetermined vision of people and what you suspect they have done that you take so far to instigate a confrontation that , absolutely regardless of what did or didn't happen, results in you shooting an innocent person dead than that is the utter height of "dangerous"

Top and bottom of this sorry mess : Zim acted on his prejudice , -something- happened that HE instigated and as a consequence an innocent teen is dead.

None of this happens if Zim doesn't act on his prejudice

[Phoenix Dark]

That's Vancouver, Canada.

[Joe Molotov]

That's Vancouver, Canada.

Zimmerman better stay away from Canada.

[Shaka Khan]

Top and bottom of this sorry mess : Zim acted on his prejudice , -something- happened that HE instigated and as a consequence an innocent teen is dead.

FTFY

/Dubya

[Himu]

Says a lot when Canadians riot over this and not the NSA leaks.

[Eel O'Brian]

smh peruvian krauts

[Positive Touch]

Bullshit

If you are going to walk around and make judgement calls base on your own predetermined vision of people and what you suspect they have done that you take so far to instigate a confrontation that , absolutely regardless of what did or didn't happen, results in you shooting an innocent person dead than that is the utter height of "dangerous"

Top and bottom of this sorry mess : Zim acted on his prejudice , -something- happened that HE instigated and as a consequence an innocent teen is dead.

None of this happens if Zim doesn't act on his prejudice

bububu so confusing! grey areas! we werent really there so we dont know!

for real tho, all that is proven fact so to try and argue innocence is disingenuous and fucking sick