Shout out to Shoot outs in Killeen, Texas!

[Eric P]

http://www.kcentv.com/story/22836161/police-officer-killed-killen

A cop in Killeen, Texas was killed Saturday night in a gunfight with a military veteran who inexplicably attacked officers with an AK-47.

Two officers were shot in the exchange, according to NBC News affiliate KCEN-TV, which began after a report of a man threatening people with a long rifle by an apartment complex pool.

When a SWAT team arrived at Grandon Manor Apartments around midnight, they found the armed man had returned to his residence in the complex, but was still brandishing a long rifle in a threatening manner.

That’s when he allegedly fired a shot, but then appeared to give himself up. When officers moved in to make an arrest, the unidentified man allegedly opened fire with an AK-47 assault rifle.

Two officers were hit and the suspect was killed. One of the officers was pronounced dead less than an hour later. The surviving officer reportedly underwent surgery and was in stable condition.

No names of those involved have been released, but the shooter’s neighbors told KCEN-TV that he was a soldier.

This video is from NBC affiliate KCEN-TV, aired Sunday, July 14, 2013.

previously in the increasingly aptly named Killeen
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_Hood_shooting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luby%27s_massacre

[Joe Molotov]

Where any of the SWAT team black and suspicious looking?

[Polari]

Hope not because if so Himuro's gonna be banging on about it for months.

[drew]

with an AK-47 assault rifle.

unless he somehow snuck home a war trophy i highly doubt it was an assault rifle

[archnemesis]

Are there non-assault rifle AK47s?

[drew]

yeah, in order to be an assault rifle it needs all of the features of a civilian version (self loading, detachable box magazine, intermediate cartridge) but it also needs to be select fire (safe, semi/burst, full auto)

a battle rifle is basically the same except for firing a larger cartridge (think FN FAL, HK G3, M14)

these are terms that had meaning way before becoming politicized and misused.  bothers me to no end.  don't even ask me about clips.

[Mupepe]

"load another clip"
"how many clips do you have?"
"that's a big clip"

[drew]

extendo clipz

[Mupepe]

"sixteen in the clip and one in the hole.  Nate Dogg is about to make some bodies turn cold"

[archnemesis]

The American debate over complicates things. I would consider any semi or full automatic 7.62 caliber rifle to be an assault rifle. If you just want to practice your aim or compete you can use smaller calibers.

[drew]

"sixteen in the clip and one in the hole.  Nate Dogg is about to make some bodies turn cold"

 

speaking of FAL's i'm thinking of getting this even though i have no money coming in, looks noice.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1DSASA5816TAC

[Mupepe]

oh no.  Is this going to turn into a gun debate thread?  Because if we're talking about what would make people safer you're aiming at the wrong target (see what I did there?? har har har).

[Mupepe]

"sixteen in the clip and one in the hole.  Nate Dogg is about to make some bodies turn cold"

 

speaking of FAL's i'm thinking of getting this even though i have no money coming in, looks noice.

http://www.aimsurplus.com/product.aspx?item=F1DSASA5816TAC

hot damn!  I really want a .308   I've felt like it's the missing piece from my collection for a while now.  I just haven't been able to justify the price lately.  If you get it, make sure to post it here

[chronovore]

yeah, in order to be an assault rifle it needs all of the features of a civilian version (self loading, detachable box magazine, intermediate cartridge) but it also needs to be select fire (safe, semi/burst, full auto)

a battle rifle is basically the same except for firing a larger cartridge (think FN FAL, HK G3, M14)

these are terms that had meaning way before becoming politicized and misused.  bothers me to no end.  don't even ask me about clips.

I thought "assault rifle" was the creditable term, while "assault weapon" was the vague, politically charged term, no?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assault_rifle#Assault_rifles_vs._Assault_weapons

[drew]

no.  ass rifles became politicized when d bags on tv were using it as a blanket terms to make ar's sound more menacing.

[Am_I_Anonymous]

Where any of the SWAT team black and suspicious looking?

ok, ok, lol.