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Breaking Bad season 5 part 2 that is really season 6 thread
« on: August 11, 2013, 08:59:42 PM »
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« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2013, 09:06:20 PM »
Can't wait to download this!! :hyper

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« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2013, 09:15:12 PM »
Can't wait to download this!! :hyper
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Re: Breaking Bad season 5 part 2 that is really season 6 thread
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2013, 09:15:21 PM »
Walter White stars in Silent Hill 3.
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« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2013, 10:08:18 PM »
Holy shit
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Re: Breaking Bad season 5 part 2 that is really season 6 thread
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2013, 10:10:42 PM »
hank loves punching people in the face
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« Reply #6 on: August 11, 2013, 10:18:18 PM »
That entire confrontation.
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« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2013, 12:41:55 AM »
Gotta say I was surprised that confrontation occured. Seemed an episode or two early, but then again technically this is the 9th episode of a 16 ep season.
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« Reply #8 on: August 12, 2013, 01:33:22 AM »
Love the brisk pace. Second half of this season should be pretty meaty.
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« Reply #9 on: August 12, 2013, 04:14:10 AM »
No Hank won't do this to Skylar or Walt Jr. He knows it's too late to get justice and obviously the reason he is researching the case in his garage is he doesn't want to torpedo his own career by letting everybody know that his brother-in-law was Heisenberg. No matter how genius his detective skills are even while taking a shit, it would effectively ruin everything in his life to expose Walter as Heisenberg.

Lydia is desperate and after the whole 10-witnesses-in-two-minutes thing, she knows who to contact if she needs to apply pressure to Walter. She'll fuck him in the ass and not even give a reach-around when her purity is 2/3 the original product.

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Re: Breaking Bad season 5 part 2 that is really season 6 thread
« Reply #10 on: August 12, 2013, 05:20:21 AM »
I hope Hank is the one that kills Walt, but that probably won't happen.
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« Reply #11 on: August 12, 2013, 06:14:47 AM »
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« Reply #12 on: August 12, 2013, 06:16:49 AM »
God Lydia is such a great character. I`m glad it looks like she`ll be a bit part of the season
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« Reply #13 on: August 12, 2013, 06:25:03 AM »
I don't know about a great character but :lawd
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Re: Breaking Bad season 5 part 2 that is really season 6 thread
« Reply #14 on: August 12, 2013, 08:50:38 AM »
Separate from her hotness, as a character I love her neurotic demenor.
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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2013, 10:06:07 AM »
Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.

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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2013, 10:06:41 AM »
And Lydia is a moron.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2013, 10:10:46 AM »
How in the world could anyone be on Team Walt? And how did you ever come up with the idea this story would have a happy ending?
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2013, 10:13:19 AM »
Today is going to be such a long fucking day.  I NEED TO GET HOME AND SEE THIS!!

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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2013, 10:20:33 AM »
That's how I don't get why you hope. In season 5 opening we already KNOW that Walt is now on the run or very bad place. Given that what happens in the season mainly comes down to Walt's hubris and sense of malice, why would you hope? It is going to happen.
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2013, 10:22:01 AM »
I don't want Walt to die either.  He might deserve it, but I am kinda rooting for him.  I want to see him get away and end up happy.  I'd love it.

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« Reply #21 on: August 12, 2013, 11:15:54 AM »
How in the world could anyone be on Team Walt?

Surrogate wish fulfillment.

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« Reply #22 on: August 12, 2013, 11:20:08 AM »
Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.

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Are you one of those Walt worshiping morons?

Morons? Don't go there. That said, I am #TeamWalt. I wish the series had just ended with the bbq at the end of last season, with Hank not finding the copy of Leaves of Grass. It's pretty clear that I'm going to be watching this final season in spite of Vince Gilligan, rather than because of him.
the hell are you talking about

You expect Walt to get away with his manipulative bullshit? He's going down, that's been clear since the beginning. He's a piece of shit, and him being smarter than everyone doesn't make him better.
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« Reply #23 on: August 12, 2013, 11:30:21 AM »
I think I was done when he raped his wife.
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« Reply #24 on: August 12, 2013, 12:22:05 PM »
I think I was done when he raped his wife.
She was begging for it with those "fuck me" eyes

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« Reply #25 on: August 12, 2013, 12:30:30 PM »
Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.

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Are you one of those Walt worshiping morons?

Morons? Don't go there. That said, I am #TeamWalt. I wish the series had just ended with the bbq at the end of last season, with Hank not finding the copy of Leaves of Grass. It's pretty clear that I'm going to be watching this final season in spite of Vince Gilligan, rather than because of him.
the hell are you talking about

You expect Walt to get away with his manipulative bullshit? He's going down, that's been clear since the beginning. He's a piece of shit, and him being smarter than everyone doesn't make him better.

The only thing we can hope is that his downfall doesn't take Walt Jr and Skylar down with him and looking at the state of things, it has.
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« Reply #26 on: August 12, 2013, 12:46:40 PM »
I'd go back to team Walt if he murdered Skyler.

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« Reply #27 on: August 12, 2013, 12:50:46 PM »
Walt and Walt Jr. sitting on a pile of cash with everyone else dead (Skyler included) would be what I consider a happy ending.

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Re: Breaking Bad season 5 part 2 that is really season 6 thread
« Reply #28 on: August 12, 2013, 12:56:08 PM »
Mine would be Walt Jr. finally getting his goddamn breakfast.


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« Reply #29 on: August 12, 2013, 01:04:45 PM »
The plan was always for this to be a man's slow descent, nothing was sped up. Walt did amoral shit in the first three seasons too, let's not kid ourselves. It was obvious he'd have to essentially ramp up towards the end, given his cancer and the threats to his family.

On a side note I find it interesting that people identify and root for Walter White and Tony Soprano, yet one of the biggest reasons The Wire never was a big show while it aired was because it challenged viewers to identify with black drug dealers. There's just as much humanity and personality in a lot of the characters, they're just as grey...yet at the time I remember a lot of people not wanting to "root" for "drug dealers." Just an interesting aside, to me at least. Obviously now everyone loves The Wire, but it wasn't always like this.
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« Reply #30 on: August 12, 2013, 01:18:05 PM »
I thought the first part of the 5th season was the best. The tone, atmosphere and intensity made it amazing.

I thought it felt a little rushed. Season 4 is still my favorite, Gus was fantastically formidable and I liked how Jesse was teaming up with him and Mike to beat the cartel. Then again Skylar was perhaps her most annoying in that season. (Season 2 is my least favorite.)

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« Reply #31 on: August 12, 2013, 01:20:08 PM »
The plan was always for this to be a man's slow descent, nothing was sped up. Walt did amoral shit in the first three seasons too, let's not kid ourselves. It was obvious he'd have to essentially ramp up towards the end, given his cancer and the threats to his family.

On a side note I find it interesting that people identify and root for Walter White and Tony Soprano, yet one of the biggest reasons The Wire never was a big show while it aired was because it challenged viewers to identify with black drug dealers. There's just as much humanity and personality in a lot of the characters, they're just as grey...yet at the time I remember a lot of people not wanting to "root" for "drug dealers." Just an interesting aside, to me at least. Obviously now everyone loves The Wire, but it wasn't always like this.
Suburban criminals are a lot easier to relate to from the cable tv crowd than inner city thugs.  TV was also much different back then.  Too far ahead of its time

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« Reply #32 on: August 12, 2013, 01:21:05 PM »
Walt has a pretty irredimable personality compared to other anti-heroes.  Tony Soprano and Don Draper both have characteristics that are genuinely endearing.  Walter was introduced as obsessive, obtuse, and mopey and has transformed in to becoming obsessive, obtuse, and a tyrant.  At no point did I find myself liking the dude, and much of the pleasure I get from the show is in watching him suffer.  Here's hoping Gilligan reduces him to dust.

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« Reply #33 on: August 12, 2013, 01:28:37 PM »
Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.

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Are you one of those Walt worshiping morons?

Morons? Don't go there. That said, I am #TeamWalt. I wish the series had just ended with the bbq at the end of last season, with Hank not finding the copy of Leaves of Grass. It's pretty clear that I'm going to be watching this final season in spite of Vince Gilligan, rather than because of him.

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That would have been such a shit ending.

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« Reply #34 on: August 12, 2013, 01:33:02 PM »
Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.

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Are you one of those Walt worshiping morons?

Morons? Don't go there. That said, I am #TeamWalt. I wish the series had just ended with the bbq at the end of last season, with Hank not finding the copy of Leaves of Grass. It's pretty clear that I'm going to be watching this final season in spite of Vince Gilligan, rather than because of him.

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That would have been such a shit ending.
Agreed.  This is a show that needs to end with a bang.  It's been escalating for 6 years and that ending would be a copout.

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« Reply #35 on: August 12, 2013, 01:34:36 PM »
I found Walt sympathetic in the first season, which I also thought was the best one. It was a lot more grounded and believable..
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« Reply #36 on: August 12, 2013, 02:25:05 PM »
Exo, that Heisenberg graffiti and the neighbor dropping all her groceries makes me think the whole world knows. I do like the feeling you get that Walt doesn't even understand how he ended up creating such an icon of himself.

Why should Walt get killed? He doesn't deserve that, IMO.

I'm pretty pissed that the ending is going to be so negative. We already know that the house is going to get seized. Fuck that shit.

It's the only thing that makes sense for him to lose his house and family. The reason he started out was because he wanted to leave his family with just enough to get by and due to faults in his own character, he becomes a murderous, obsessive, drug kingpin.
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« Reply #38 on: August 12, 2013, 02:56:37 PM »
I'd go back to team Walt if he murdered Skyler.

Given a fan theory, he has a high chance of doing this.

http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=667743
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« Reply #39 on: August 12, 2013, 03:03:21 PM »
Not really. Hypothetically it could have ended happily at the end of Season 5 Part 1. All that needed to happen was:

1) Walt not leaving Leaves of Grass out in the open, and
2) Walt taking the time to make sure his successors could cook a decent batch of meth. I'm assuming that this will become an important plot point, and the fact is that if Walt could teach Jesse to cook 95% pure meth in a Mexican lab, he sure as shit could have taught someone else.

So really, it's going to be a combination of a long-shot coincidence, and an unfortunate oversight that ruin what could have been a nice ending for all parties. And to some extent, it seems like Vince Gilligan moralizing at this point. He's completely lost sight of what made the show great in Seasons 1-4, but everything about the production of the show is of such high quality that it doesn't really suffer as a whole.

This is stupid. It is like you haven't even been paying attention to the story. Skylar has said time and time - and rightly so - that Walt leaves things that could lead to a trail. And he does, because he is prideful and a man that smells his own shit. When they first introduce Gale, no, I can't have that, only *I* can make it. ME. I can't have this other scientist around, I need to have the schmuck who knows jack shit around so I can feel superior to him. I am only person in the world who can make this formula. It was Skylar's idea to launder the money. Walt just leaves it idly hidden some place. There are even the SUBTLE ways that Walt is not careful and overly prideful: when Skylar shows him the money she leaves the lights off - because SHE HAS A BRAIN - before they enter, and Walt walks in, expecting her to uncover this MOUNTAIN OF CASH without closing the door. She reminds him with a quick,"Walt."

Walt leaving the book in HIS BATHROOM to display continues this as part of his character.

Jesus Christ.
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« Reply #40 on: August 12, 2013, 03:10:51 PM »
Walt rapes Skylar in the kitchen. That's what birthed the daughter.
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« Reply #41 on: August 12, 2013, 03:14:53 PM »
Dude. I don't know what else to say except the show has thrown this shit in your face for like 6 seasons breh.

It makes you look like you the entire point of the show, which has been set up from the beginning, that Gilligan has clearly said is the direction in interviews, and the dialogue that supports it. Then you claim you're on Team Walt - which is fine in itself - wanting the story to end on a happy note. It's bullshit and I've discussed Breaking Bad with enough people online to know how they get their rocks off living their weird ass fantasies through Walter White.

Dude, I don't remember what season Walt raped Skylar, but rapes Skylar in the kitchen. It is clearly rape, and I have no idea how you got it into your head that scene was consensual.
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« Reply #42 on: August 12, 2013, 03:17:34 PM »
Yeah, rape was post-Kaylee. Season 3, season 4-ish.
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« Reply #43 on: August 12, 2013, 03:23:23 PM »
See now, I'm catching up with the thread and now I don't want to bother because now you're contesting that Walt didn't manipulate Jesse when Walt is a MASTER JESSE MANIPULATOR.
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« Reply #44 on: August 12, 2013, 03:30:30 PM »
Himu, you're getting pretty aggressive right now. I'm going to have to ask you to dial it back. The actual content of your post is mostly fine, but little embellishments like "this is stupid" and "Jesus Christ" only serve as needless provocations. Do you want to discuss Breaking Bad in good fun, or do you want to insult potential conversation partners? It should be an easy choice.

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« Reply #45 on: August 12, 2013, 03:31:00 PM »
I think everyone knows Walt is Heisenburg. He's probably, at the point in the flash forward, presumed dead - hence the bag drop.  A major niggle is how this information comes out: Lydia, Jesse, or Hank? All three are probable, Hank the least likely.
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« Reply #46 on: August 12, 2013, 05:07:13 PM »
I've discussed Breaking Bad with enough people online to know how they get their rocks off living their weird ass fantasies through Walter White.

Dude, I don't remember what season Walt raped Skylar, but rapes Skylar in the kitchen. It is clearly rape, and I have no idea how you got it into your head that scene was consensual.

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« Reply #47 on: August 12, 2013, 05:21:03 PM »
I'm on #TeamWalt because the other characters are terrible.
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« Reply #48 on: August 12, 2013, 05:23:23 PM »
I've discussed Breaking Bad with enough people online to know how they get their rocks off living their weird ass fantasies through Walter White.

Dude, I don't remember what season Walt raped Skylar, but rapes Skylar in the kitchen. It is clearly rape, and I have no idea how you got it into your head that scene was consensual.

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I'm on #TeamWalt because the other characters are terrible.

Hank :wag
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« Reply #49 on: August 12, 2013, 05:24:31 PM »
Walt's terrible too.  Flynn is the hero.

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« Reply #50 on: August 12, 2013, 05:25:58 PM »
I think he means terrible as in he doesn't like them.
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« Reply #51 on: August 12, 2013, 06:04:58 PM »
To kill Gale.

Walt did not manipulate Jesse into killing Gale. Jesse killed Gale because it was literally the only hope of survival for both him and Walt. That is not the same thing, Himu.

Sure, he manipulated Jesse at other times, the latter half of Season 4 (Tomas poisoning) being the best example.

...Walt chipped and chipped on Jesse to kill Gabe, just as he does on most issues. To the point where Jesse was compelled to do exactly what Walt wanted.
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« Reply #52 on: August 12, 2013, 06:37:16 PM »
How could you possibly be on Team Walt?  :derp

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« Reply #53 on: August 13, 2013, 02:04:45 PM »
I don't see how anyone could be #TeamWalt, as in genuinely liking him as a person, but you have to admit the way he handled the confrontation with Hank was bad fucking ass. He got beat the shit up and still managed to look like he was in control :lol

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« Reply #54 on: August 13, 2013, 04:41:05 PM »
Walt is hugely egotistical to a fault and that should be obvious. If it wasnt for his crazy pride, he could have gotten out and away with it, no problem. I don't think the point of Breaking Bad was ever for you to route for someone.

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« Reply #55 on: August 13, 2013, 04:43:43 PM »
One of my favorite developed themes of the show is Jesse being almost a complete opposite of Walt. Deep down, Jesse is a good person. While Walt keeps proving that he's destructible. I love the scene with Badger and Skinny Pete where Jesse looks to have evolved far beyond them.

The thing about Badger and Skinny Pete is that they're actually smart - in their own way. Especially Pete.
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« Reply #56 on: August 13, 2013, 04:48:42 PM »
I agree with that.
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« Reply #57 on: August 13, 2013, 04:51:34 PM »
just wanna say that scene in particular is the best thing i've seen on tv all year.
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« Reply #58 on: August 13, 2013, 05:05:21 PM »
1. Hank
2. Saul
3. Flynn
4. Gus
5. Mike
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« Reply #59 on: August 13, 2013, 05:47:40 PM »
1. Mike
2. Saul
3. Huell
4. Tyrus
5. Jesse