Breaking Bad season 5 part 2 that is really season 6 thread

[Tasty]

I actually think tonights ep was the best in the series.

Himu it's possible you might be pulling a Solo after Lost's finale.

[Phoenix Dark]

Yeah, The Shield's finale still reigns supreme. It's pretty much impossible to top.

I had thought, and hoped, that Breaking Bad's finale would go something like that.

spoiler for The Shield

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with Walt losing everything he had but living to see the ruin of his life. Instead he pretty much outright "won." I wanted to see Walt like Michael Corleone at the end of Godfather 3, alone, a complete ruin, die with no one there to help. Still, seeing him get revenge was satisfying in its own way too.

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[ZephyrFate]

I think Gilligan is right when he says Ozymandias is the best episode of the show.

I totally agree. Rian Johnson out-directed everyone else who ever directed a BB episode.

[nudemacusers]

I thought it was a nice closure.

what did amirox say that would get him cornholed? i don't follow that thread at all.

[nudemacusers]

oh so just amirox being amirox

i wonder how different that thread would be if he were a mod

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.theonion.com/video/story-of-small-businessman-struggling-under-obama,34037/

[Purple Filth]

  at a certain character in the BB gaf thread

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I have a theory

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[meni stronk]

I almost popped a boner when Jesse strangled that sick albino creep

[Dickie Dee]

GOAT

[Himu]

Loved all the Scorsese influences. The final song was used similarly in The Departed, the M60 showdown was pretty Taxi Driver and even Walt's confession to Skyler struck me as a little Henry Hill.

What sucks is that most of the actors from this show will go on and do jack_fucking_shit.

Yup. Just like The Sopranos, The Wire, Six Feet Under and The Shield. Or Seinfeld. Or even mega popular dreck like Friends.

Imperioli was in a few shows that got cancelled immediately. Falco had Nurse Jackie, I guess. Elba is the only one that really got traction after The Wire. Omar is only now really getting emphasis on Boardwalk. Krause got a show on ABC that got canned, Michael C Hall got the cancer and Dexter. Chiklis got 2 cancelled corny shows. Shane gets typecast as a creepy hick and lucked out at getting a great part on Justified.

Probably the only time Jesse, Gus, Mike and Hank will get to use their chops on this scale.

Michael B Jordan is no unknown. Boy is moving up.

[Eel O'Brian]

I'm most impressed by how they managed to maintain momentum throughout the entire series. I never once felt like I was watching a "filler" episode. Everything felt like it contributed to the overall arc, even episodes like "Bug." I wish Jesse would have gotten a bit more spotlight in the finale, but otherwise I was very satisfied with the denouement.

[thisismyusername]

I almost popped a boner when Jesse strangled that sick albino creep

So did Jesse.

I'm most impressed by how they managed to maintain momentum throughout the entire series. I never once felt like I was watching a "filler" episode. Everything felt like it contributed to the overall arc, even episodes like "Bug." I wish Jesse would have gotten a bit more spotlight in the finale, but otherwise I was very satisfied with the denouement.

Yeah, I wanted one scene after the "Vince Gilligan" credits where we see Jesse and Brock in Alaska or something. Him driving off into the night was symbolic for being free from Walt's manipulations and all that, but it wasn't a great closure on his fate.

[Dickie Dee]

I'm most impressed by how they managed to maintain momentum throughout the entire series. I never once felt like I was watching a "filler" episode.

I actually really like the first half of S5 for this reason. Gus dying could've completely suck the air out of the show, instead they shifted gears and kept the momentum going (without resorting to introducing another even bigger Big Bad).

Everything felt like it contributed to the overall arc, even episodes like "Bug." I wish Jesse would have gotten a bit more spotlight in the finale, but otherwise I was very satisfied with the denouement.

I'm usually a big believer in leaving some things open-ended, but yeah, it would've been great to get more followup on the other characters (will Jr. get the money? will that lottery ticket reeaally be a get out of jail free card for Skylar). Probably hard to work in a coda that didn't feel tacked on, especially when ending with Walt dying makes for such a tempting endpoint.

[Barry Egan]

What really works about this finale is that in some ways its a redemption narrative, but Walt becomes no less sociopathic by the end of the episode.  He just finally manages to appreciate his descent in to the void for what it is, and we're happy for him.

I hope Jesse is finally able to explore his passion for carpentry

Watching this episode helps you realize how brilliant the flash forwards at the beginning of both parts of "season 5" were.  When you think about everything Walt accomplishes this episode, the fact that he manages to kill both Lydia and the entire Aryan brotherhood almost effortlessly, not to mention securing the $9 million trust for his family, it seems like a bit much.  The flash forwards gave us the opportunity to anticipate a spectacle, so that when it happens it doesn't seem so beyond the pale within the shows universe.  If the gun hadn't been introduced at the very start of the season it wouldn't have been nearly as cathartic when it was finally put in to play.  It's so, so much better than the flash forward in season 2 with that dumb teddy bear, at least.

[Himu]

The flash forward was amazingly executed.

[nudemacusers]

The flash forward was amazingly executed.

yeah, I dug how it moved into that in a natural way. like I said, a nice end-cap to the series, and thinking about it, not much reaally happened, unlike a lot of eps where lots of moving parts are going on. it's basically just walt saying goodbye.

[Quaker]

at a certain character in the BB gaf thread

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I have a theory

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You mean the belligerent, petulant #TEAMWALT guy who keeps bringing up Amirox and whose only threads are about politics, sports and James Cameron's Avatar?

He might have a point about that New Yorker gal, though.

http://newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/09/breaking-bad-finale-reviewed.html

[CatsCatsCats]

Yeah her recap/review is pretty dumb. It would have been incredibly trite to have it be a dream sequence, are you kidding me with that?

[nudemacusers]

weird review, strange that she views the finale as a 'walt conquering all' when he really just negated some of the shit he did in the course of his descent.

it's also annoying when people get ultra caught up in the hows and whys of pulp entertainment. how did walt get ahold of badger!? who gives a fuck.

[Mupepe]

I hate when people consider that shit plotholes.  If we saw how everyone accomplished everything it would 1) ask more questions than it answers and 2) make every fucking episode move at a snails pace.

[fistfulofmetal]

I kinda felt bad for Lydia at the end. I mean she's a murdering cunt but she wasn't nearly as evil as a lot of other people.

[nudemacusers]

eh, she's just as bad, but uses proxies to keep her nose clean, and looks down on everyone around her as if the insulation she's built up around herself protects her from the consequences. Guess not always.

[Barry Egan]

from the new yorker comments section

You had the arrogance to call the people who didn't agree with your personal interpretation of a fictional work "Bad Fans." Now it turns out they were more on the money than you were this entire time. This is pretty satisfying to watch. Perhaps you'll show more restraint and humility if such a scenario comes up again in the future. You (and Maureen Ryan, Matt Seitz, and others) were the ones "making a smart show dumb", as another critic put it. Not the ones who argued that Walt was something more than the evil caricature that you and many critics insisted he was.

that signature Shinobi spite.   

[fistfulofmetal]

eh, she's just as bad, but uses proxies to keep her nose clean, and looks down on everyone around her as if the insulation she's built up around herself protects her from the consequences. Guess not always.

I guess I just felt bad for her because she's a woman. Plus the look on her face when Walt told her she was poisoned was super sad

[Himu]

I demand an extended ending for the blu ray version.

[headwalk]

super safe but altogether satisfying.

my favourite episode of the season was actually the low-key penultimate. ozymandias was overrated. maybe it would've been a contender if that hack rian johnson wasn't involved.

crawl space is still GOAT.

[headwalk]

Everyone loves Rian Johnson's style but you, Federman.

no. no, i don't think they do. some people do, maybe even a majority? but it's okay to be different.

doesn't stop johnson being a wank worker.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Everyone and their dog has already commented but I thought the ending was very satisfying.  Reminds me a lot of The Shield's ending where it ended kind of quietly but only that was because it was the result of an amazing show that preceded it so it didn't need to end on a bang.

[nudemacusers]

Everyone and their dog has already commented but I thought the ending was very satisfying.  Reminds me a lot of The Shield's ending where it ended kind of quietly but only that was because it was the result of an amazing show that preceded it so it didn't need to end on a bang.

I wasn't following the show online/etc when it aired, but were people disappointed by The Shield's ending?

[brawndolicious]

No, it had pretty good word of mouth on those last few episodes from what I remember. The whole seventh season of The Shield was basically one of the best seasons of TV and had tons of bang, compare it to the last season of The Wire if you want to see a show that mellows down to tie up everything. I've never heard anyone be disappointed by how everything ended up on The Shield's finale.

Anyways, I thought BBs finale was just about perfect.

Only a small thing bothered me; the lasers would be diffracted at least a few degrees off when going through those thick windows. So the "guns" weren't pointed directly at their hearts. You would think maybe some super scientists would remember this stuff but Walt just knew his poker face was too good for them to pay attention.

Also this show totally would make crippled people feel unappreciated. Between Hank, Tio, and Junior, only the most clueless one...Flynn lives. Lawl.

[Baiano19]

Damn, you know how this ending would be awful? If they ended it Brazil style, and everything that happened after he got in the car was a dream.

I mean, Walts plan worked too perfectly... the never happened before.

[Purple Filth]

at a certain character in the BB gaf thread

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I have a theory

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You mean the belligerent, petulant #TEAMWALT guy who keeps bringing up Amirox and whose only threads are about politics, sports and James Cameron's Avatar?

He might have a point about that New Yorker gal, though.

http://newyorker.com/online/blogs/culture/2013/09/breaking-bad-finale-reviewed.html

Yep and it seems my theory has more weight now 

Damn, you know how this ending would be awful? If they ended it Brazil style, and everything that happened after he got in the car was a dream.

I mean, Walts plan worked too perfectly... the never happened before.

because he usually fucked it up with stupid ego trips, this time none of that played a part given how at peace he seemed.

Plus the usual help from lady luck.

[Baiano19]

because he usually fucked it up with stupid ego trips, this time none of that played a part given how at peace he seemed.

Plus the usual help from lady luck.

oh yeah, he finally stoped lying to himself and the others.
I did it for me was his most powerful quote of the show.

[cool breeze]

experience it all again

[Himu]

Does anyone know the final episodes ratings?

[Eel O'Brian]

10.3 million

[chronovore]

http://www.avclub.com/articles/watch-this-in-an-alternate-ending-for-breaking-bad,105727/