here's what you missed from the vma's this year

[Polari]

What is this whole twerking this anyway? When we were kids it was just referred to as some slutty-ass shit.

[Himu]

What is this whole twerking this anyway? When we were kids it was just referred to as some slutty-ass shit.

[Polari]

Yeah I mean I'm not against it.

[Himu]

tbh, Miley did a good job. I'm seeing articles pop up about this shit on my facebook even now. Fuck. AND she's got the number one song on itunes and has an album coming up. Anyone who brings up that stupid Charlamagne interview is a doofus. That girl is treating this industry like the mess it is and slaying the pop charts.

[Phoenix Dark]

I forgot charting on the pop charts is the only goal worth achieving, and separates the successes from the failures.

[Steve Contra]

At some point you should ask yourself if seriously analyzing the career choices of Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter is where you want your life to be.

[Himu]

Eh, it's for fun. Who cares.

[nudemacusers]

At some point you should ask yourself if seriously analyzing the career choices of Billy Ray Cyrus's daughter is where you want your life to be.

Yo if someone wants to pay me to write articles about miley twerking sign me up.

[Human Snorenado]

Have any older white folks acted significantly appalled to warrant attention?  Has Dr. Phil offered his take on this spectacle yet?

Don't worry, once they get notified of it by Entertainment Tonight and talk radio, they will be.

[Phoenix Dark]

Why hasn't Obama addressed this?! He gave a speech about Trayvon Martin but has no time for Miley Cyrus?

[Robo]

I'm having an old man Harrison Ford moment reading this thread.  whogivesashit.gif

[Human Snorenado]

 

[Raban]

http://www.vulture.com/2013/08/jody-rosen-miley-cyrus-vmas-minstrel.html
 
reminds me of when black people got upset that Eminem *gasp* disrespected black women with the b word. Which is apparently only a major offense when done by a white person.

and in Miley's case no it isn't good for business. She's killing her long term popularity by turning off a lot of her previous white audience. In fact fuck it, I'll just post it again.

That video

[Joe Molotov]

Why hasn't Obama addressed this?! He gave a speech about Trayvon Martin but has no time for Miley Cyrus?

"If I had a Backpage.com girl, she'd look like Miley Cyrus."

[Shadow Mod]

WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?

[Himu]

WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?

No, the racial condescension is real. See the Charlamagne interview and talking about Miley "catering" to black people.

[Human Snorenado]

Amanda Bynes can't cater to all black people 

[Shadow Mod]

WaPo talking about slut shaming and racial condescension.

Gaga wore less and I don't see an issue it's almost like someone is a proper entertainer and another person is failing at it?

No, the racial condensation is real. See the Charlamagne interview and talking about Miley "catering" to black people.

I don't know what Miley is trying to do. I see her trying to cop a bunch of shit instead of being original.

[CatsCatsCats]

Ariana Grande lost all cred when she opted out of her high notes during the preshow.

Applause still isn't a great song but Gaga showed she's still a great live performer

[Himu]

I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original?

[CatsCatsCats]

Also, I assumed Daft Punk were to perform after the Colbert debacle, was disappointed they didn't. But the video for lose yourself to dance looks rad.

[Shadow Mod]

I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original?

Yeah but they cover it up by performing worth a shit and some of them are capable of vocal range. Miley is just all over the place. Plus I find the whole "look at me like I'm a sexual being" along with the stuffed animal raver girl stuff kind of unsettling.

[StealthFan]

God I wish Katy Perry knew how to dance. She's so fucking hot. I want to see her writhing like a slut ie Beyonce, Old School Spears.

I hate her music videos. They're more goofy than sexy.

[Cerveza mas fina]

Cyrus just look lost doing that show, like she has lost touch.

It wasn't raunchy and shocking, it was just sad, embarrassing, out of touch and delusional of what she thinks she is portraying.

This is raunchy done right, miley couldn't do this in a million years

[Human Snorenado]

Keep in mind that Miley's like, 20 or whatever?  Also, she's not from an exceptionally bright family.  Young people tend not to have their shit together, combine that with having the ability to decide what you think you want to do and you get clusterfricks like what happened last night.

[Himu]

I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original?

Yeah but they cover it up by performing worth a shit and some of them are capable of vocal range. Miley is just all over the place. Plus I find the whole "look at me like I'm a sexual being" along with the stuffed animal raver girl stuff kind of unsettling.

I agree. It's stupid. But it apparently worked. I'm not arguing quality here, but on the fuckery scale, Miley's performance is an 11.

[Phoenix Dark]

How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.

[Himu]

How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm talking about the "catering to black people" line, which is a common argument against Miley. You even said as much when you said she's pushing her white fans away.

[TakingBackSunday]

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original?

They're all different takes of Madonna, who I think copied off of drag culture.

They're just finding various niches to exploit.  Miley can't ride off of Hannah Montana forever and without something, she'd be singing a duet version of "Achy Breaky Heart" with her dad.  So she does some ridiculous shit, which works well for her either way: if it works, she's extended her career by another 2-3 years.  If it doesn't, she can pretend to feed off the negativity; if that fails, she can claim to have some kind of addiction and have a multimillion dollar astroturfing movement (circa 2008 Britney Spears) to rehabilitate her.

I am a

[Phoenix Dark]

How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm talking about the "catering to black people" line, which is a common argument against Miley. You even said as much when you said she's pushing her white fans away.

but...she is catering to urban music culture, and indeed to black people. Why did she go to a seedy black strip club to twerk? Why is she twisting her hair and using snaps associated with young black girls? Why is she going on the radio saying being black is a state of mind?

I know you dislike the Charlamagne video but dude...a lot of white people don't like that ghetto shit. Miley has a huge song right now, her hair cut is still big news but dude...she is killing her long term growth. I'm not convinced her album is going to sell well, but I could be wrong. Regardless, where does she go from here? She can't go back to being a "normal" pop rocker.

[Himu]

I don't see why anyone has a problem with that considering none of the current breed of pop stars are truly original?

They're all different takes of Madonna, who I think copied off of drag culture.

They're just finding various niches to exploit.  Miley can't ride off of Hannah Montana forever and without something, she'd be singing a duet version of "Achy Breaky Heart" with her dad.  So she does some ridiculous shit, which works well for her either way: if it works, she's extended her career by another 2-3 years.  If it doesn't, she can pretend to feed off the negativity; if that fails, she can claim to have some kind of addiction and have a multimillion dollar astroturfing movement (circa 2008 Britney Spears) to rehabilitate her.

I am a

So far it's working.

She has two songs in the top 5, released a song zero hype and it's number one.

[Steve Contra]

What the hell is racial condensation?  Black folks sweating more?

[Himu]

How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm talking about the "catering to black people" line, which is a common argument against Miley. You even said as much when you said she's pushing her white fans away.

but...she is catering to urban music culture, and indeed to black people. Why did she go to a seedy black strip club to twerk? Why is she twisting her hair and using snaps associated with young black girls? Why is she going on the radio saying being black is a state of mind?

I know you dislike the Charlamagne video but dude...a lot of white people don't like that ghetto shit. Miley has a huge song right now, her hair cut is still big news but dude...she is killing her long term growth. I'm not convinced her album is going to sell well, but I could be wrong. Regardless, where does she go from here? She can't go back to being a "normal" pop rocker.

Good points. But she has to do something.

And it's not like say, Rihanna, doesn't change herself overnight to jack what's in. Miley could do the same shit.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

How is it racial condensation to criticize something that is shitty? Yes, "ratchet" shit is shitty be it on worldstar or the VMAs.

I shake my head at Honey Boo Boo's bullshit and I shake my head at ratchet shit. They're too sides of the same exaggerated stereotype coin.

Nothing wrong with that. I'm talking about the "catering to black people" line, which is a common argument against Miley. You even said as much when you said she's pushing her white fans away.

but...she is catering to urban music culture, and indeed to black people. Why did she go to a seedy black strip club to twerk? Why is she twisting her hair and using snaps associated with young black girls? Why is she going on the radio saying being black is a state of mind?

I know you dislike the Charlamagne video but dude...a lot of white people don't like that ghetto shit. Miley has a huge song right now, her hair cut is still big news but dude...she is killing her long term growth. I'm not convinced her album is going to sell well, but I could be wrong. Regardless, where does she go from here? She can't go back to being a "normal" pop rocker.

Well, there are tons of pop stars that flamed out quick by doing the conventional, conservative thing.  While I agree that she is suffering long term damage, she is probably better off overall doing what she is doing now.

[Shadow Mod]

She needs to pick a solid direction and roll with it. I know she's young and all but this half raver, half club rat shit is just not working.

[Himu]

Didn't Britney go through the same phase at point where she transitioned from cute harmless teen girl to...raunch?

[Human Snorenado]

Ok, this has reached it's zenith now.  It's all downhill from here.

http://www.buzzfeed.com/jenlewis/miley-cyrus-twerks-on-famous-paintings

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

That would be my facial expression too

[Himu]

Girl with a Pearl Earring

[Shadow Mod]

Didn't Britney go through the same phase at point where she transitioned from cute harmless teen girl to...raunch?

Yeah but whomever was handling her did it with much more of a gradual transition from what I recall. It also helped that Brit kept up with dance moves she could perform well. So she never looked out of her element.

[Himu]

http://www.google.com/trends/

Lady Gaga ain't even in the top 10 :deadpos

[Shadow Mod]

http://www.google.com/trends/

Lady Gaga ain't even in the top 10 :deadpos

lil kim is still relevant

 

[Himu]

Lil Kim She was so wearing a corset last night

[Shadow Mod]

from this




to this

[Himu]

why is everyone a dwarf in that pic what the hell

[Shadow Mod]

South Park still had the best lil kim though



 

[Himu]

lil kim is 4'11? who is that short ass nicca behind her who's like only 2 inches taller

[Positive Touch]

miley aint trying to cater to black folks; shes travelling the spice trade route looking for all the finest black culture to take back to the suburbs. taking the tried-and-true appropriation route to come off as edgy and unique to cacs that dont know shit about that stuff. if shes gonna flame out its prolly cause she acts so god damn stupid while she does it. madonna may have been a rip-off artist but at least she didnt fuck it up every time she walked out the door.

[Himu]

Yeah, positive gets it.

[Verdigris Murder]

In my opinion, antidepressants and celebrity fixation are now so deeply embedded into western culture that any sort of surgical removal would cause severe brain trauma.

Celebs are more prone HUGELY to breakdowns, they take sanctioned pills from the man. If you can't actually process this, you're either complacent or not too bright.

[Himu]

Yeah man, Americans are the only people who care about celebs

[Verdigris Murder]

You started this phase.

[Verdigris Murder]

Slebs used to be kings and pharoahs. Literal gods.

[Himu]

[Verdigris Murder]

But no. The USA wanted to even the playing field by making it so that as long a you.

[StealthFan]

It helped that Britney was smoking hot when she transitioned.

2007 Britney was such a travesty. At least she had some spark to her though. She's so medicated and moderated these days she may as well be a fucking robot.

[Verdigris Murder]

Bill Cosby. He's pretty much your Jimmy Saville.

[Van Cruncheon]

issues of privilege and culture aside, the biggest crime is that miley pulled this "ratchet" shit without having ANY ASS TO SPEAK OF. this is fuckin' felonious, borderline treasonous shit. throw her stank teenboy ass in gitmo.

you don't get to be gisele bundchen and superhead at the same fuckin' time, you dull cracker cunt.

[Verdigris Murder]

Toxic is a great song.