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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #180 on: August 01, 2014, 05:50:55 PM »
I failed? :(

Well at least I know it's pronounced
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #181 on: August 01, 2014, 05:51:25 PM »
Mispronouncing ethnic names for years after we know the real pronunciation is a pretty essential cactivity.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #182 on: August 01, 2014, 06:11:59 PM »
Roji pronounced as Raw-chi?

I thought it was pronounced Kah-vee. I was sorta close? :stahp

Undercover cac.

Though, to be fair, I tend to prefer the "western" pronunciation of most brown names.

On top of that my dad was understandably upset (he named me) he's like "you don't like the name I gave you?" saddest thing is my name isn't even hard to say. It's two syllables yet people here have been struggling with it my whole damn life, so I switched to  my single syllable name.


Just fucking annoying, man.

Dude, my parents still won't let me down for changing my first name and turning my old first name into my middle name  :lol
You got away easy.
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« Reply #183 on: August 01, 2014, 06:20:51 PM »
For some reason I thought it was a J.

Rah-gi then?
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #184 on: August 01, 2014, 06:30:57 PM »
I got Rogi right!
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« Reply #185 on: August 01, 2014, 06:37:52 PM »
that moment when you feel empathy for and have common ground with Squiddy :fbm
Hey, we're brown, you should have seen it coming.
I bet we also got relatives trying to come to the country because things are so bad back there, but having a hard time relating to them as a result of having grown up in a western society and the awkwardness that ensures.

Exodus knows what's up.
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« Reply #186 on: August 01, 2014, 06:41:42 PM »
You guys got easy mode enabled then  :lol
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #187 on: August 01, 2014, 07:02:06 PM »
 :larry :yeshrug
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #188 on: August 01, 2014, 07:02:59 PM »
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #189 on: August 01, 2014, 07:20:45 PM »
well not really. my family on both sides were assembled ragtag from indentured slavery, and most of us at this generation are floating between cultures etc. For example you have a defined choice between being more like a kurd or being more like a swede.
Unfortunately your surroundings don't necessarily respect your choice. It's rarely malicious and kind of understandable, since assuming one way or the other can be problematic too. Can't win if you're obviously 'foreign' in some way.

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« Reply #190 on: August 01, 2014, 07:53:26 PM »
"American" doesn't have race strongly built into it and works well with a ddiverse heritage since America is young.
In the old world it is indeed as Rufus puts it.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #191 on: August 01, 2014, 08:14:16 PM »
I know an Iraqi guy who changed his first and last name shortly before getting a job with the big four. His dad refuses to speak with him now, but the rest of his family was more understanding. I can understand changing your first name, or using your middle name instead, but changing your last name too  :-\

More often than not the brown people I know will just go by an abbreviation of their first name. Like "Kish" instead of the longer version.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #192 on: August 01, 2014, 08:35:23 PM »
god bless you

/hands exodust some kleenex
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #193 on: August 01, 2014, 08:39:35 PM »
hey i get allergies this time of year too   :-[


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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #194 on: August 01, 2014, 08:47:01 PM »
I still go by Yazeed, cause it's not difficult at all to say and is a unique name that I've grown attached to. Some people call me Yahtzee, and i much prefer that over " oh it's yujeij! eugene!? ezekial?" where I can tell it's not trolling but they're trying to seem cultured in thinking I'm giving them a simpler way of saying it. It's Yazeed, pronounced ye-zeed, "ye" like in "yen", "zeed" like in "weed". Shit is simple as fuck.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #195 on: August 01, 2014, 08:48:18 PM »
"Rick" seems more montana appropriate.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #196 on: August 01, 2014, 09:12:00 PM »
How can they not know how to pronounce these names after meeting you once? I don't get it
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #197 on: August 01, 2014, 11:22:51 PM »
I'm cac as shit and my family changed their names. :yeshrug

If it wasn't a pain in the ass I'd change it back to the original form.

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« Reply #198 on: August 01, 2014, 11:32:18 PM »
Take advantage of that Jewish name privilege breh
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #199 on: August 01, 2014, 11:51:35 PM »
Drop the stein brehs
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #200 on: August 02, 2014, 01:34:33 AM »
It's a -witz, gosh.

BTW Esch, if your sis gives you shit for using your middle name tell her that in my early 20s I used to alternate introducing myself to women with my first and middle name so that I could date 2 people at the same time and pretend someone was texting the wrong number.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #201 on: August 11, 2014, 05:21:38 PM »
Tommy Sotomoyor and Tariq Nasheed going to war :heh


two of the most loathsome men on youtube. Interesting that both love shitting on black women.
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« Reply #202 on: August 12, 2014, 03:29:14 PM »
fuck I'm at work. is it as bad as the Coli makes it sound?  :lol

Both are trash but Sotomoyor's hatred of black women is on another level. Dude is a huge coon.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #203 on: August 14, 2014, 01:23:57 AM »
Check out this interview:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bryan-cainjackson/tariq-nasheed-on-the-curr_b_5670497.html

This article:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/08/12/men-without-a-country-mike-brown-trayvon-martin-my-father-and-me.html

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I can pretend to belong here better than Trayvon and Mike Brown were ever given the chance to. But however hard I try, however well they treat me, I know this is not my country.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #204 on: August 14, 2014, 01:53:41 AM »
Seriously the arthur chu article made me cry. I'm still crying. Everything about it resonates with me.

I've often made statements that I'd like to leave America, but honestly, where the fuck would I go? Even if I went to Canada, I wouldn't belong.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #205 on: August 14, 2014, 01:56:17 AM »

Himu

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #206 on: August 14, 2014, 02:37:52 AM »
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/america-is-not-for-black-people-1620169913

And yet, Obama is President. Article debunked.

I've cried three times tonight now because of this article. Bed time.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #207 on: August 14, 2014, 03:41:01 AM »
Seriously the arthur chu article made me cry. I'm still crying. Everything about it resonates with me.

I've often made statements that I'd like to leave America, but honestly, where the fuck would I go? Even if I went to Canada, I wouldn't belong.

You'll probably never live to see the day (sorry) but there will be a day where there will be a place that if you could be there you would feel like you belong, or here will no longer make people feel like they don't belong.

It took the Jewish diaspora ~1,800 years to find a home (not that the finished product is something to laud per se), but now there are kids who grew up with Hebrew as their primary language which still blows my mind.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #209 on: August 14, 2014, 01:40:43 PM »
I never thought I'd ever write this but :bow RAND PAUL
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #210 on: August 14, 2014, 03:12:21 PM »
We need a decisive list of black owned American businesses. Need to support our own and build up our communities and follow Asians lead.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #211 on: August 14, 2014, 03:14:56 PM »
Himu let's start our own weave business and take the market from the Asians.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #212 on: August 14, 2014, 03:17:23 PM »
Himu let's start our own weave business and take the market from the Asians.

Naw I'd jump on natural black hair products. Business is booming. Great time to get in. Being black owned? Even better.
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« Reply #213 on: August 14, 2014, 03:31:45 PM »
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Himu

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #214 on: August 14, 2014, 03:41:29 PM »
Black owned businesses:

App for black businesses in your area
http://aroundthewayapp.com/

Natural hair care companies
http://blackgirllonghair.com/2013/08/8-incredible-black-owned-natural-hair-businesses-to-support/

Black owned extensions site
http://www.xtasyhair.com/
 
Fashion:
http://harunintl.myshopify.com

Skincare/makeup:

Shea Moisture
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #215 on: August 14, 2014, 04:30:11 PM »
Kinda highlights the difference between the GOP and Libertarians, and why one is doomed to fail.
Yeah  :fbm

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #216 on: August 14, 2014, 04:46:56 PM »
http://time.com/3111474/rand-paul-ferguson-police/

Meh, talk is cheap. Maybe actually do something about it.

Nevermind Rand. Someone is doing something about it.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/dc/hank-johnson-stop-militarizing-law-enforcement-act
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Georgia Rep. Hank Johnson proposed legislation on Thursday aimed at demilitarizing domestic police forces, amid national criticism of heavily armed cops going after protesters in Ferguson, Mo.

"Our main streets should be a place for business, families, and relaxation, not tanks and M16s," the Democratic congressman wrote in a "Dear Colleague" letter to members of Congress. "Unfortunately ... our local police are quickly beginning to resemble paramilitary forces."
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #220 on: August 24, 2014, 07:36:36 PM »
Atlanta has had a powerful black economic elite for quite some time yet there's been substantial black poverty in tandem with its existence.

Didn't know PD was so class conscious. :ussrcry

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #221 on: August 24, 2014, 07:43:51 PM »
Atlanta has had a powerful black economic elite for quite some time yet there's been substantial black poverty in tandem with its existence.

Didn't know PD was so class conscious. :ussrcry

And himu laughed at the kareem abdul jabbar article I posted.

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« Reply #222 on: August 24, 2014, 08:04:14 PM »
Atlanta has had a powerful black economic elite for quite some time yet there's been substantial black poverty in tandem with its existence.

Didn't know PD was so class conscious. :ussrcry

I get that, it just feels like a troll, the way he phrased it. As if putting money into black businesses is pointless. It felt like a non-sequitur that added nothing to the dialogue for the same of laughs. Hence my last post. I'm not sure what PD's goal of posting that was.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #223 on: August 24, 2014, 08:07:17 PM »
Atlanta has had a powerful black economic elite for quite some time yet there's been substantial black poverty in tandem with its existence.

Didn't know PD was so class conscious. :ussrcry

And himu laughed at the kareem abdul jabbar article I posted.

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It was a stupid article. To say that Ferguson is about class warfare and not race is fucking stupid. More than that, Atlanta has nothing to do with Ferguson.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #224 on: August 24, 2014, 08:10:25 PM »
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #225 on: August 24, 2014, 08:22:42 PM »
I get that, it just feels like a troll, the way he phrased it. As if putting money into black businesses is pointless. It felt like a non-sequitur that added nothing to the dialogue for the same of laughs. Hence my last post. I'm not sure what PD's goal of posting that was.

I think he was trolling you but also reminding you that just buying black in and of itself isn't a constructive form of dual power, and certainly not a direct road to self-determination.

Did you read that interview with Chokwe Lumumba I PM'd you awhile back?

e: I'll just post it here for the folks at home. https://www.jacobinmag.com/2014/06/free-the-land/

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #226 on: August 24, 2014, 08:38:50 PM »
Who said buying black in itself will lead to self sustainability? I just mentioned I'd like to do it more. I didn't say doing it would lead to Little Africa's in every American city in 20 years time or anything. The fact that was even brought up doesn't feel remotely enlightening nor constructive.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #227 on: August 24, 2014, 08:50:04 PM »
Well at the beginning of this conversation you said you wanted to buy from your own to build your own community (specifically following the lead of Asian communities in the United States), that implies a certain aspiration for self-sustainability to me, but I apologize for extrapolating your initial position into something much larger than you meant.

As for it not being constructive, it's worth considering that not everyone views themselves as being part of the same community, or that their membership in one community is more important to them than their membership in another.

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« Reply #228 on: August 24, 2014, 09:08:50 PM »
Putting money into black businesses is just one aspect of self sustainability, I'd think. It certainly isn't the only means. To say that it is naive and even perhaps petty.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #229 on: August 24, 2014, 09:23:32 PM »
It was a troll to get a like from Esch, nevertheless the point is what Kara mentioned. I support black businesses - hell, my dad is a black business owner and I know many others. But the class system in the US isn't so easily overcome. Black businesses may make money in Atlanta, but ultimately there is still rampant poverty and the wealth has yet to trickle down.

So by all means support black businesses; I do too. But ultimately the best way to change situations in the black community is to take over communities by controlling positions of power. I'm not talking about showing up every four years to vote for a president or senator. I'm talking about school boards, municipal councils, sheriffs, judges, city managers, etc. Coming from Detroit, I've seen how many of these positions become little more than permanent positions for crooks who use their skin color as a shield from any criticism ("the suburbs don't like me, they want to take control of x"). We'd be a lot better off if these positions were held by people who took the job, and the community, seriously.

Community control. That goes beyond black businesses, because even black businesses act like corporations when they aren't kept in line. Which reminds me of Chokwe Lumumba, who didn't have the power to do everything he'd want but does have the ability to determine who can and can't do business in his town. And while I haven't read the interview Kara posted, the last time I heard him speak he mentioned that companies that don't hire within the community don't get contracts. That's key, and something that isn't happening in Atlanta which is basically just corporatism with a black face.

I was talking to a socialist friend a few years ago about some things, and he brought up Obama's OFA organizing group. After Obama won the election he didn't do anything with OFA; he used it as an organizing tool to get elected and then moved to Washington. My friend was never an Obama fan, but he noted how intrigued he was by the 2008 campaign, and how shocked he was that a legit community organizer like Obama would just discard such a valuable vehicle. Imagine if Obama had found a way to transition the various OFA branches into local activism, local elections, etc. All those people who were trained could have easily helped take over school boards across the country, among other things.

Change is local. We're seeing this in Ferguson right now, where you have a majority black city terrorized by a white power structure they could easily topple if they showed some passion in non-police shooting months. I look at that Antonio French guy, the local Alderman who is doing an amazing job organizing protests, and wonder how many young black people in St. Louis knew who he was before Brown got shot. Ferguson has 6 council members, and one is black. I'm not saying white people shouldn't hold positions of power in black cities, nor am I assuming those white council members are bad...I'm just saying that there would be more than one black council member if the population was more involved.
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #230 on: August 25, 2014, 08:51:01 PM »
Wanted to post this, decided it should obviously go in here so cac's won't see it:
http://library.sc.edu/digital/collections/greenbook.html

I was talking to a socialist friend a few years ago about some things, and he brought up Obama's OFA organizing group. After Obama won the election he didn't do anything with OFA; he used it as an organizing tool to get elected and then moved to Washington. My friend was never an Obama fan, but he noted how intrigued he was by the 2008 campaign, and how shocked he was that a legit community organizer like Obama would just discard such a valuable vehicle. Imagine if Obama had found a way to transition the various OFA branches into local activism, local elections, etc. All those people who were trained could have easily helped take over school boards across the country, among other things.
They didn't discard it, they just transitioned it into more beneficial purposes for the organizers...

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #231 on: August 25, 2014, 08:58:30 PM »
What is the OFA; sounds like a terrorist group


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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #233 on: August 26, 2014, 08:29:59 PM »
What is the OFA; sounds like a terrorist group

Organizing For America, Obama's grass roots organization which he used to blow Hillary Clinton, John McCain, and Mitt Romney out the water. A lot of articles have been written about how it was discarded after the election, and then the admin tried to revive it with stupid shit. At one point they were trying to get people to organize around getting republicans to support Obama's plan to (essentially) cut social security. Stupid shit like that which missed the point of the organization.


she nails it

The reason the tea party is successful is because they pressure their elected officials to advocate for certain views. If that official doesn't adequately do it, they get shitcanned (see: Eric Cantor). The left still doesn't have anything like that, and instead is essentially set up like Dragonball: there are a bunch of balls in the air representing various liberal interests (women's rights, gay rights, voting rights, health care, labor, etc). As long as a representative has enough of those balls in his/her possession they're safe. Whereas the tea party doesn't give a shit that a "big government" republican is pro-life, pro marriage, anti-union, anti-global warming, etc: if they make the wrong vote on immigration or guns, they face rebellion. Yet democrats are fine letting the Chuck Shumers of the world exist despite being corporate whores because hey, at least he's right on gay marriage/abortion/voting rights/etc! Fuck that.

But to bring things back to the local level, we need to hold elected officials responsible. If your state congressman or municipal board member doesn't think police officers should wear cameras on their vests, vote them out of office; I don't care if he helped secure a donation for some HBCU or helped get a new rec center in your neighborhood. Hold people accountable.

You want to know why Detroit is fucked? Because the car industry controlled Detroit's government for decades. They killed the transportation system for fear of people riding buses instead of buying cars. They supported infrastructure plans that created highways all around the city to prop up suburbs, which assisted white flight. And they didn't give a shit whether plants or factories hired locals - which is why all that tax money bled out. So you have a system where people drive into the city to work, then drive home and pay taxes in some small town or city. And all the black mayors didn't do shit, just like the white ones. And you know why? Because the people didn't force them, the people didn't know what was happening, the people were too busy focusing on other shit.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #234 on: August 26, 2014, 09:01:56 PM »
Party discipline. :noah

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« Reply #235 on: August 27, 2014, 11:37:21 AM »
Sorry that happened to you, Esch. This is what happens when you listen to Currensy for extended periods. 

I'm lucky enough to have never encountered such overt racism before.  The worst I've ever come across was when the old white lady who lived next to us complained to me about how this area was so much nicer before "people like you" moved in.

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« Reply #236 on: August 27, 2014, 11:46:54 AM »
wtf, sorry to hear that esch :snoop
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #237 on: August 27, 2014, 11:52:19 AM »
We need a decisive list of black owned American businesses. Need to support our own and build up our communities and follow Asians lead.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #238 on: August 27, 2014, 11:53:31 AM »
Jesus Christ, Esch. I'm sorry to hear this. People are so fucking classless and hateful. :snoop
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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #239 on: August 27, 2014, 11:54:43 AM »
When i was running yesterday someone yelled at me "leave sand n1gger" from a car. It's been a while since i've been anonymously lashed out at for my race, maybe since late high school?

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I'm better at controlling my anger, but that flare up of white hot rage and shame when you initially realize you're being shitted on like that is something I don't know if I can ever overcome.

That completely sucks. Nothing worse than that feeling.

I once had a car full of fellow college students drive by me while I was running shouting "hey distinguished black fellow, what store did you rob?" and "got any fucking crack?".....about a mile down the road they got a flat tire. A million options went through my head including death and dismemberment. However when I got there I just ran by and said "have a super day guys" and watched as the jackals became sheep. I played ball at this time and was going about 230 pounds at the time....fyi....biggest one of them might have been pushing 170 pounds.

edit: Nice autocorrect, didn't know that happened. Anyway I assure you they didn't call me a distinguished black fellow lol.

Edit: As for the rage? I'm pretty old now and it never goes away. It actually gets worse. Imagine your son coming home and asking why people were calling him a coon all day. I just had to crack my neck when I typed that.
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