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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #482 on: April 28, 2015, 07:56:49 PM »
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« Reply #484 on: April 28, 2015, 09:46:05 PM »
Is that the confederate version of the pan African flag?

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« Reply #486 on: April 28, 2015, 11:18:30 PM »
I can't tell where Wolf Blitzer ends and Don Lemon begins.
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« Reply #488 on: April 29, 2015, 12:20:51 AM »
http://www.foxnews.com/tech/2015/04/28/social-media-analysis-suggests-links-between-baltimore-and-ferguson-violence/
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EXCLUSIVE - An analysis of social media traffic in downtown Baltimore Monday has unearthed striking connections to the protests in Ferguson, Mo. last year, according to a leading data mining firm that shared its findings exclusively with Fox News.

The firm, which asked to remain anonymous because of its government work, found between 20 and 50 social media accounts in Baltimore that were also tied to the peak period of violence in Ferguson. While further analysis is being conducted on the data, it suggests the presence of "professional protesters" or anarchists taking advantage of Freddie Gray's death to incite more violence.

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One account, which also tracked the recent union protests in New York City as well as other disturbances, tweeted photos of Gray's funeral and used language that seemed to anticipate violence in Baltimore.

The discovery that some social media accounts were tied to cities 825 miles apart was described to Fox News as “surprising.” While it is possible to spoof accounts and make it appear as if someone is in one location when they are really in another, the data mining firm told Fox News that it can’t fully explain the numbers.

The use of social media to fuel violence in Baltimore has already been highlighted by law enforcement. On Monday, police said an online call was issued for a "purge" at 3 p.m. ET, starting at Mondawmin Mall and ending in the downtown area. That type of threat is based on a movie called “The Purge,”  the plot of which involves rampant lawlessness.

The Washington Times also reported Monday that law enforcement intelligence officials issued a warning after someone sent a text urging people to “kill all white police officers” in reaction to Gray’s death. The text has fueled fears that the violence in Baltimore could spread nationally, according to safety memos obtained by The Washington Times.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #489 on: April 29, 2015, 04:08:24 PM »


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« Reply #490 on: April 29, 2015, 05:07:44 PM »
according to a leading data mining firm that shared its findings exclusively with Fox News.

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« Reply #491 on: April 29, 2015, 05:10:07 PM »

The discovery that some social media accounts were tied to cities 825 miles apart was described to Fox News as “surprising.”

Also, Fox news says that Fox news said that this is "surprising"?

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« Reply #492 on: April 29, 2015, 06:54:53 PM »
Mother Jones has an interesting piece on how the riots in Baltimore got started:

The funeral of Freddie Gray, a 25-year-old black man who died in police custody this month, had ended hours earlier at a nearby church. According to the Baltimore Sun, a call to "purge"—a reference to the 2013 dystopian film in which all crime is made legal for one night—circulated on social media among school-aged Baltimoreans that morning. The rumored plan—which was not traced to any specific person or group—was to assemble at the Mondawmin Mall at 3 p.m. and proceed down Pennsylvania Avenue toward downtown Baltimore. The Baltimore Police Department, which was aware of the "purge" call, prepared for the worst. Shortly before noon, the department issued a statement saying it had "received credible information that members of various gangs…have entered into a partnership to 'take-out' law enforcement officers."

When school let out that afternoon, police were in the area equipped with full riot gear. According to eyewitnesses in the Mondawmin neighborhood, the police were stopping busses and forcing riders, including many students who were trying to get home, to disembark. Cops shut down the local subway stop. They also blockaded roads near the Mondawmin Mall and Frederick Douglass High School, which is across the street from the mall, and essentially corralled young people in the area. That is, they did not allow the after-school crowd to disperse.
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« Reply #493 on: April 29, 2015, 07:18:45 PM »
Mother Jones has an interesting piece on how the riots in Baltimore got started:

The funeral of Freddie Gray, a 25-year-old black man who died in police custody this month, had ended hours earlier at a nearby church. According to the Baltimore Sun, a call to "purge"—a reference to the 2013 dystopian film in which all crime is made legal for one night—circulated on social media among school-aged Baltimoreans that morning. The rumored plan—which was not traced to any specific person or group—was to assemble at the Mondawmin Mall at 3 p.m. and proceed down Pennsylvania Avenue toward downtown Baltimore. The Baltimore Police Department, which was aware of the "purge" call, prepared for the worst. Shortly before noon, the department issued a statement saying it had "received credible information that members of various gangs…have entered into a partnership to 'take-out' law enforcement officers."

When school let out that afternoon, police were in the area equipped with full riot gear. According to eyewitnesses in the Mondawmin neighborhood, the police were stopping busses and forcing riders, including many students who were trying to get home, to disembark. Cops shut down the local subway stop. They also blockaded roads near the Mondawmin Mall and Frederick Douglass High School, which is across the street from the mall, and essentially corralled young people in the area. That is, they did not allow the after-school crowd to disperse.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #494 on: April 29, 2015, 07:30:44 PM »
So is the police freaking out over reports of some kind of super-gang starting a war on cops.
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« Reply #496 on: April 30, 2015, 11:39:11 AM »
So is the police freaking out over reports of some kind of super-gang starting a war on cops.

I take that narrative with a huge cup of salt. Same thing with the "Gangs pushed protestors to only demolish non black storefronts." Somehow within the chaos of a ton of people running about, I just don't see anyone guiding that nonsense in any serious way. It all sounds of that "Reporting what I hear not what I see" sort of shit from newscrews. "My sources are twitter, facebook and this random dude on the street dancing like MJ. Don Lemon out"

I've seen a single NYT article about it and even then it's just some dude on the street. Yet it's somehow become the narrative for the entire riot.
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« Reply #497 on: April 30, 2015, 12:00:38 PM »
I like these articles.  How did the riot start?  Pretty sure it started with a dead black dude in police custody. 

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« Reply #498 on: April 30, 2015, 04:50:21 PM »
Clearly the only good outcome to all this is that the wire has been back in news

http://www.thetakeaway.org/story/wendell-pierce-wire-reflects-baltimores-real-life-struggle/

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« Reply #499 on: April 30, 2015, 05:12:48 PM »


kind of crazy: Here is a white MIT prof. here to tell us why blacks rioted.  Couldn't get away with that today.

The ending for prof's suggestions on how to fix the problem, 1) income redistribution, 2) less unemployment, 3) guaranteed minimum income (for the poor).

Also the pretty crazy focus on radicals starting the riots and conspiracies, which hasn't changed as well.  "It's like Ok MIT prof, why did this happen."  "Well its partially social and partially economic"  "...That's nice, now lets talk to this man with an obscured face tell you how he knows of these black panthers that are going to kill you in your sleep".

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #500 on: April 30, 2015, 05:37:28 PM »
My mom grew up in Detroit and remembers seeing tanks roll past her house. Although to this day she refuses to call it a riot, she calls it a "disturbance."

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« Reply #501 on: April 30, 2015, 07:55:41 PM »
So is the police freaking out over reports of some kind of super-gang starting a war on cops.
I've been hearing that for decades now. It's just like the second coming of Jesus. Ain't happening.
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« Reply #502 on: April 30, 2015, 08:06:09 PM »
So is the police freaking out over reports of some kind of super-gang starting a war on cops.
I've been hearing that for decades now. It's just like the second coming of Jesus. Ain't happening.

It's definitely one-third of the Holy Trinity of white paranoia, along with mass infiltration by foreign agents and the complete destruction of personal rights by the federal government.
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« Reply #503 on: April 30, 2015, 11:20:14 PM »


These 60's videos are incredible.  "Say race relationships to whites and they want to talk about riots.  Say it to blacks and they want to talk about discrimination"  1968 just about a half century ago. 

lol the women defending her view that blacks are less intelligent 'there is a book that says black children develop to an IQ of 80, while whites get to 90.'  :lol  Guess Asians skewed that shit back then too.

Holy shit, 1/4 of whites said that the 'some states' (with a big brown spot on the southern states on the shown map) should be given as a separate country for blacks.  1/3 were ok with this is that country was in Africa. 

'it may be fair to conclude that black extremists have been given more attention in the media than their presence in the black community demands', after giving stats on how blacks say they don't agree with black radicals. 


'whites think racial equality will happen in 100 years.  blacks expect it in 50'
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« Reply #505 on: May 01, 2015, 12:36:30 AM »


I like the commercials.  Its like 'Blacks have no fathers; brought to you buy Vaseline hand lotion.'

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« Reply #506 on: May 01, 2015, 11:14:16 PM »
No one watched the videos?  :(  I get it this is how this thread is going down  http://i.imgur.com/9kCykN5.gifv

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« Reply #507 on: May 01, 2015, 11:23:06 PM »
I've seen the NBC one before. Will watch the other.

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121685/liberal-policies-arent-whats-wrong-baltimore?utm_content=buffer7cd75&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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« Reply #508 on: May 02, 2015, 01:01:02 AM »
Is that Kevin Durant on the article? That dude looks and dresses a lot like Kevin Durant.

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« Reply #509 on: May 02, 2015, 01:14:18 AM »
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Conservatives base this logic—that the city somehow proves government investment and social programs are bad policy—on a selective history of Baltimore, noting for instance that its residents have elected only one non-Democratic mayor since the 1940s.
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Federal and local policymakers of the time redlined areas with "undesirable racial concentrations" to omit them from mortgage insurance programs.

And over the century, the same neighborhoods faced one destructive policy after another, from mass incarceration to the rise of predatory banks.

“If the goal of early segregationist policies was to concentrate black Baltimoreans in a single location, separated from opportunity, then it worked,” Jamelle Bouie writes at Slate. “More importantly, it’s never been unraveled; there’s never been a full effort to undo and compensate for the policies of the past. Indeed, the two decades of drugs and crime that marred Baltimore in the 1980s and 1990s helped entrench the harm and worsen the scars of the city’s history.”
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throughout Baltimore’s history, lawmakers at the local, state, and federal level adopted policies that entrenched poverty and segregation in the city.

As the Washington Post notes, research from the Virginia Commonwealth University’s Center on Society and Health shows that the segregated black neighborhoods of the 1930s “still have lower rates of homeownership and college attainment and higher rates of poverty and segregation today—as well as worse health outcomes.” Another fact from the Post: “From 1951 to 1971, 80 to 90 percent of the 25,000 families displaced in Baltimore to build new highways, schools and housing projects were black.” Only a decade ago, banks marketed subprime mortgages to poor black homebuyers, leading to a wave of foreclosures.

The tough-on-crime approach WSJ suggests only made things worse. During Thomas Carcetti's mayorship, arrests spiked as police swept up people for offenses as minor as loitering by targeting low-income neighborhoods with Carcetti's database, CitiState. Today, neighborhoods like Sandtown-Winchester in West Baltimore, which is 97 percent black and where half the households earn less than $25,000 a year, are still reeling from these policies. 
Democrats couldn't have failed Baltimore during their reign of absolute power because they adopted bipartisan, corrupt and wrongheaded policies, just like Republicans do!

The cac author of this piece was born in say, 1989. (Started her BA in 2007.) Like a lot of these other writers who mostly came of age in the 1990s they haven't and don't study any of the stuff like Father Mike is posting that "reset" the post-Civil Rights table of relations between the races and the new urban/suburban divide, nor how much it was the elite of black communities that wanted the vicious crackdowns on drugs, especially crack, during the overall expansion of the War on Drugs during the Reagan years.

The decline, fall and creation of "rings" around all the major eastern cities (where the suburbs and downtown are for middle class or higher mostly whites and the inbetween is for everyone else) is all whitewashed away in a narrative of "budget "cuts", "underfunding", racism, gentrification, etc." as if those things just randomly occurred out of bad luck that piled up on each other.

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« Reply #510 on: May 09, 2015, 10:46:38 PM »


Ah yes, the classic 'the devil was in the house' line

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« Reply #511 on: May 09, 2015, 11:02:56 PM »
What was a lead in?


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« Reply #513 on: May 15, 2015, 04:56:38 PM »
http://www.ibtimes.com/georgia-principal-nancy-gordeuk-fired-over-racist-graduation-remarks-blames-devil-1922176

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If I could bounce once my kid got his diploma I would.
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« Reply #515 on: May 16, 2015, 01:54:21 PM »
Not what I was expecting with this title  :lol
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« Reply #516 on: May 16, 2015, 04:10:30 PM »
Ya that cut off too soon and no description about what happened after in the link.

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« Reply #517 on: May 30, 2015, 01:12:08 PM »
http://www.kare11.com/story/news/local/2015/05/27/maple-grove-couple-terrorized-by-woman-at-gunpoint-while-going-to-pick-up-their-son/28050055/

they look pretty fair skinned but still putting it here.

Not being investigated as a hate crime  :holeup

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« Reply #518 on: June 15, 2015, 07:38:03 PM »
Dr. Umar Johnson caught up by a stripper who exposes his bullshit  :lol


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« Reply #520 on: July 20, 2015, 12:46:50 PM »
http://news.yahoo.com/rachel-dolezal-black-african-american-i-didn-t-mislead-anybody-143306933.html

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“I just feel like I didn’t mislead anybody; I didn’t deceive anybody,” Dolezal told Vanity Fair. “If people feel misled or deceived, then sorry that they feel that way, but I believe that’s more due to their definition and construct of race in their own minds than it is to my integrity or honesty, because I wouldn’t say I’m African-American, but I would say I’m black, and there’s a difference in those terms.”

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« Reply #522 on: July 21, 2015, 11:12:59 AM »
Its an OK article but it ties up race and social class into one thing which is wrong.  Like he says that whites are racist by being complicit and benefiting from a racist system and then mentions white flight as an example, however that's just a norm that rich people try to put them selves and their children in a safe environment which tends to mean moving away from poor people.  It just happens that at this time in America that means moving away from black poors.  Of course people are going to use their wealth to try to better their position, even at the cost of people that are poorer then them.  That's not inherently racist. However racism has been and is used a tool to do that.  The article doesn't make that distinction.  For example he says "better schools" exclusively means "whiter schools."  You could say "better schools" exclusively means "richer schools." and be just as correct.  I'm sure a community of black millionaires would have no problem sending their children to any school on mass (its just there isn't such community).

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Black people think in terms of we because we live in a society where the social and political structures interact with us as Black people.

White people do not think in terms of we. White people have the privilege to interact with the social and political structures of our society as individuals.

This is pretty important though.
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« Reply #523 on: July 21, 2015, 11:14:41 AM »
I have two issues with the article:

1. "Slavery is not racism." The type of slavery that we had in the America's was.

2. The hint that black people cannot be racist.
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« Reply #524 on: July 21, 2015, 11:30:58 AM »
I mean I've only lived in St Louis but around here "better schools" and "better neighborhoods" absolutely means "no blacks allowed." the implicit assumption is that black people will be violent so anywhere away from them is safer. there's plenty of neighborhoods around here where mansions are right down the street from tiny sixties-era houses and white ppl don't have a problem with it as long as it stays white. and the rich folks'll send their kids to a private school so they don't care about all that.

the assumption is that you must always stay in a majority-white area, for your own safety.
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« Reply #525 on: July 21, 2015, 12:01:21 PM »
Which is racist.  The point I'm trying to make is that it doesn't have to be and I don't think that is the case for a lot of people who move to better places.   I remember when my mom moved to a better neighborhood, I highly doubt she though that the neighborhood was good because their weren't any Natives there.  And if you make the distribution of wealth the exact same between white and black and that assumption that blacks are violent goes away (for the most part).  Then his argument essentially becomes anyone who benefits for this unequal wealth distribution is complicit in a racist system.  And as Himu points out, hits at that black people can't be racist.  What I'm saying is that taking advantage of your situation is absolutely normal; people want to get as rich as they can and if doing so automatically makes you a racist, then you have a very strange notion of racism.  I don't see a way for anyone to both be rich and white and not racist according to that article. 


I think its good that the article points out that institutionalized racism is still an issue, but I thought that was obvious.   

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« Reply #526 on: July 21, 2015, 01:41:54 PM »
My biggest problem with the "black people can't be racist" argument is the insinuation that all black people are in the same position. There is a constant refusal to acknowledge the existence of a black middle class, or upper class. There are black people with "power," to make it simple. If a black businessman refuses to hire a white person based on race, he or she is being racist.

If you believe all white people are inherently evil...you're racist. etc.

(There are a lot of black people doing well in this country but I don't get the impression when I listen to a lot of discussions on the black plight. I recognize my family background isn't the norm, but neither is complete poverty the norm either)
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« Reply #528 on: July 22, 2015, 04:52:28 PM »
YES
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« Reply #529 on: July 22, 2015, 05:03:23 PM »
These corny mother fuckers always about that Egyptian shit when our ancestors were from west Africa :neogaf it never ceases to be comedy how they pump their chest with the idea of black pride while at the same time unironically throwing their ancestors to the bushes by fetishing a single culture and country that our victims of the diaspora didn't even hail from.

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« Reply #530 on: July 22, 2015, 05:06:47 PM »
The way they demand complete control of black women disgusts me. Not to mention the anger they display at the mere thought of black women being successful. After all, any type of success=the white man letting you do well, so therefore you must be an agent.

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« Reply #531 on: July 22, 2015, 05:08:45 PM »
Would you challenge him to a duel?
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« Reply #532 on: July 22, 2015, 05:28:40 PM »
People still out here defending "Dr" Umar Johnson :neogaf

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« Reply #533 on: July 22, 2015, 05:41:35 PM »
People still out here defending "Dr" Umar Johnson :neogaf

Nicca has made no qualms about shitting on black people because he didn't get enough money for his "school" and they still follow him  :snoop

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« Reply #536 on: July 23, 2015, 06:06:17 PM »


Being compared to a celebrity is a microagression?  Cause people say I look like zach galifianakis all the time.  Maybe it just doesn't effect me cause I have the right skin. 

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« Reply #537 on: July 23, 2015, 07:32:14 PM »
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/cardales-jones-osu-black-lives-matter

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« Reply #538 on: July 23, 2015, 07:44:22 PM »
Sandra Bland apparently ingested a large amount of weed in jail and they are suggesting that's what killed her. But how did she get a "large amount" in jail? How does one OD on weed? They said that she either smoked or ate it. So if she ate it, they didn't search her and weed has a VERY strong smell that goes through any porous object aka anything but glass, including ziplock bag, so even if they searched her they would have smelled it right then and there. If she smoked it, then they didn't smell it, which is impossible in such a small environment. Sandra was on her way to a job interview: what kind of person job searching and trying to get a job at a University of all places smokes or eats or buys weed when they know they'll be drug tested? But they said she hung herself - a six foot tall woman who hung herself on a five foot bar. So it wasn't that, but weed? Just admit you murdered her. Finally, Fuck The Police :)
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« Reply #539 on: July 23, 2015, 07:53:36 PM »
The weed did it, of course.
It made a noose out of a trash bag, strung her up then shoved itself down her throat.
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