The brown/black folk thread #DSF

[Phoenix Dark]

Dunno brehs. I doubt she "hung" herself but I could see her doing something to commit suicide, the cops catching her and letting her die instead of attempting to resuscitate her. I only say that because the video of the cell area makes it pretty clear no one entered during her time of death.

[studyguy]

Craziest shit though is ending up strung up in a jail cell because you fucked up and forgot to use a turn signal, that is like the worst kind of shit.
Like there's no excuse for that 

[Steve Contra]

No matter how she ended up dead WHY THE FUCK WAS SHE IN JAIL IN THE FIRST PLACE?

[Phoenix Dark]

Articulate black people mouthing off to cops is like their kryponite. Dude was probably about to piss himself in anger. scust

Being a jerk to a cop isn't a good idea but bottom line is she shouldn't have been arrested in the first fucking place. Not to mention being asked to step out the vehicle and not responding to her questions.

[Madrun Badrun]

warning ranting racist women.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e70_1437533429#9rBUxYQ6DL0KgZus.16

gonna put this here cause I'm assuming the dude is brown.

Serious rage from this.

[Phoenix Dark]

this nicca

I will say this: people antagonizing cops are fucking idiots.

[Himu]

You definitely don't antagonize cops, but that doesn't mean she should die for it even if she's a fucking moron.

[VomKriege]

These corny mother fuckers always about that Egyptian shit when our ancestors were from west Africa it never ceases to be comedy how they pump their chest with the idea of black pride while at the same time unironically throwing their ancestors to the bushes by fetishing a single culture and country that our victims of the diaspora didn't even hail from.

...or when they go and claim European history up to late medieval era 
What I love is that, no matter what the person's background his and whatever the site they decide to engage on with their schtick, they trot out the same ridiculous copy-paste about Diop, paintings and king's surnames.

[Himu]

These corny mother fuckers always about that Egyptian shit when our ancestors were from west Africa it never ceases to be comedy how they pump their chest with the idea of black pride while at the same time unironically throwing their ancestors to the bushes by fetishing a single culture and country that our victims of the diaspora didn't even hail from.

...or when they go and claim European history up to late medieval era 
What I love is that, no matter what the person's background his and whatever the site they decide to engage on with their schtick, they trot out the same ridiculous copy-paste about Diop, paintings and king's surnames.

Explain this more. I haven't seen that.

[VomKriege]

These corny mother fuckers always about that Egyptian shit when our ancestors were from west Africa it never ceases to be comedy how they pump their chest with the idea of black pride while at the same time unironically throwing their ancestors to the bushes by fetishing a single culture and country that our victims of the diaspora didn't even hail from.

...or when they go and claim European history up to late medieval era 
What I love is that, no matter what the person's background his and whatever the site they decide to engage on with their schtick, they trot out the same ridiculous copy-paste about Diop, paintings and king's surnames.

Explain this more. I haven't seen that.

There's a whole movement of people on the Internet claiming to be "afrocentrists", based (maybe very loosely) on works by Cheikh Anta Diop. They'll claim the egyptian heritage but will also try to convince you that up to the late medieval era, Europe ruling class were really all Black people. "Blue blood" is in fact black blood. Their evidence generally goes down of linking paintings with a black guy in it, painting of kings and nobles where the skin color is ever so slighty dark or where we are meant to see "obviously negroid features" (Yeah, some actually do talk and think like that), overreaching in interpreting surnames, etc... This is a good example : the most vocal believers will generally bombard you with dozens of such filmsy cases. At one point, they claim, the black rulers of Europe were overthrown by the whites (or "leucoderms") who then proceded on inventing slavery and evil. Expect shenanigans about how Olmecs (or any given random past population) were black. Don't expect for any actual scientific relevance pertinent to migrations of the past. If you feel you are ready and have time to waste, enter the Black Matrix

Writing history from an African perspective is of course a valuable and meaningful course, but this particular brand of "Afrocentrism" is really just a naked fantasy of racial supremacism.

MAAT will set you free, brother.

[Himu]

Oh, those Moor morons (lol).

[Himu]

Some guy in college told me that Beethoven was black. He used to send me videos like that until he found out I'm a cheeseburger.

[Phoenix Dark]

If not for my cousin's recent "What the fuck...did you know armadillas are giving niccas leprosy now?" comment, that would be my comment of the month.

[Steve Contra]

The Beethoven is black thing has been going around for a long time.

http://www.academia.edu/4074689/Black_Beethoven_and_the_Racial_Politics_of_Music_History

Holy shit apparently it's a theory that's one hundred years old.

[Himu]

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10154024389367565&id=10018702564

Read the comments.

[Himu]

How black people can emotionally protect themselves in the age of #BlackLivesMatter[WaPo]

"Between the World and Me": Ta-Nehisi Coates Extended Interview on Being Black in America[Democracy Now]

[Phoenix Dark]

Coates on The Daily Show.
http://thedailyshow.cc.com/extended-interviews/sx47nw/exclusive-ta-nehisi-coates-extended-interview

[Phoenix Dark]

my recommended videos on youtube are insane due to watching various nonsense. The crown jewel, ladies and gentlemen.



 

[Himu]

anyone read coates' book yet

[studyguy]

Apparently this went down at the IHOP by where my girl works?
 

Russians? Donald Trump? Telling Mexicans to go back to Spain...
Shit has it all.

[Phoenix Dark]

anyone read coates' book yet

Not yet, it's on my list. Was kinda surprised to hear it's rather short.

My mom didn't like it and said it's too dark and she disliked the way his atheism seemingly pulsated through the book. And a black friend of mine felt that it was hollow due to the attempt to channel Baldwin, from the prose to the "writing a letter to a family member" device. The Baldwin comparisons make me nervous but I look forward to reading it.

[Madrun Badrun]

Apparently this went down at the IHOP by where my girl works?
 

Russians? Donald Trump? Telling Mexicans to go back to Spain...
Shit has it all.

I'd say there is a good chance that's dementia. 

[studyguy]

http://www.newsweek.com/mom-who-kidnapped-daughter-avoid-vaccination-arrested-florida-359556

According to the Sun Sentinel, Everett kidnapped her daughter to keep her from being vaccinated, attending preschool and learning about black history.

Everett's boyfriend at the time, Carlos Lesters, was reportedly a gun and confederate flag enthusiast. Having weapons around Lilly made Baumann uncomfortable, he said.

Before disappearing, Everett left this letter to Lester: "You are a great dad. If I let them take her and vaccinate her and brainwash her, I wouldn't be doing what's right. I cannot let a judge tell me how my daughter should be raised. We will miss you. But I had to leave."

I want to laugh but honestly I feel bad for that kid.
Doesn't say anything about the actual father, but I hope he's not insane too.
 

[brawndolicious]

They probably have similar ideological beliefs if they're raising a kid together. I always thought that in most cases, racists were raised by parents who were too afraid to be public about it while the children of the hardcore will start to rebel in their teens. So good luck to the little girl in 10 years.

[Himu]

http://huff.to/1Ule7Ly

[Himu]

https://www.vice.com/read/what-black-anime-fans-can-teach-us-about-race-in-america-805?utm_source=homepage

[toku]

black sailor moon cosplayers > *

[Himu]

Never cosplayed before but I'd like to go as Ami or Rei. Problem is that I haven't been to a con since 2004, for good reason too.

[Himu]

[Himu]

http://www.msnbc.com/weekends-with-alex-witt/watch/ap-u.s.-history-course-changes-tone-on-race-500804675950?cid=sm_fb_msnbc

[Mandark]

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/562/the-problem-we-all-live-with

Summary: poor black St. Louis area school district fails so hard it loses accreditation, allowing a thousand of its students to bus to a middle class, white district and creating an unintended experiment in integration.  The audio of some of the white parents at the public meeting is... something.

[Himu]

http://mashable.com/2015/08/08/black-men-dressing-up-police/

[VomKriege]

http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/562/the-problem-we-all-live-with

Summary: poor black St. Louis area school district fails so hard it loses accreditation, allowing a thousand of its students to bus to a middle class, white district and creating an unintended experiment in integration.  The audio of some of the white parents at the public meeting is... something.

I read quickly through the transcripts and yeah... wow. I'm sure a lot of those parents have no conscient ill toughts and speaks out of worries for security and education but the comments about health records, installing metal detectors, voting down the public transport because they down't want "different" areas to come there and how the school impromptu integration is killing the housing market... also the whole thing apparently ends on a downer.

Will try to listen to it, sounds very interesting.

[Mandark]

It's worth listening to that part.  The strident tone of the white parents and the frequent applause breaks that follow their comments make it that much worse.

[Himu]

For those who don't read the hip hop thread.

http://www.clutchmagonline.com/2015/08/dear-ice-cube-your-misogyny-is-showing/



"I have no problem with regular women, just bitches and hoes. It was a different time period!" sounds a lot like "I have no problem with black people, just nigggers. It was a different time!"

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/08/17/books/review/ta-nehisi-coates-between-the-world-and-me.html?smid=tw-share

[chronovore]

http://www.upworthy.com/neil-degrasse-tyson-reveals-that-hes-been-black-his-whole-life-hilarity-and-wisdom-follow

[toku]

https://vine.co/v/enPtFzYHLgF

[Phoenix Dark]

http://www.dallasnews.com/news/community-news/northwest-dallas-county/headlines/20150915-irving-ninth-grader-arrested-after-taking-homemade-clock-to-school.ece

that last sentence

[Madrun Badrun]

What the fuck?  People that dumb and malicious really need to fired, if not scalloped and set on fire as well.  Its a shame that 1) they can basically make up charges by calling it a hoax 2) no one fucking stepped in to call these fuckers on this shit. 

[Phoenix Dark]

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/644193755814342656

[Great Rumbler]

So, if they really thought this was a bomb, why didn't they immediately bring in the bomb squad and evacuate the school? :itisamystery

[Madrun Badrun]

http://time.com/4036240/ahmed-mohamed-bomb-clock-principal-letter/

police said it wasn't race related though


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/16/us-usa-police-seattle-idUSKCN0RG0DH20150916

[PlayDat]

Am I the only one who thinks Ta-Nehisi Coates looks like a thin Killer Mike?




I'll admit those aren't the best comparison pics.  The following one from Wikipedia is where I first noticed the resemblance.



Pledge allegiance to the journalistic grind.

[Madrun Badrun]

http://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/562/the-problem-we-all-live-with
http://m.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/563/the-problem-we-all-live-with-part-two

[PlayDat]

Speaking of Coates, his article in the October issue of Atlantic seems like a good one.  I'm not sure when I'll have a chance to read the whole thing.

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

http://time.com/4036240/ahmed-mohamed-bomb-clock-principal-letter/

police said it wasn't race related though


http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/09/16/us-usa-police-seattle-idUSKCN0RG0DH20150916

drunk thought i had, does this shit not sound incredibly fake to anyone else? I mean the kid is 14 right, of course he had to know he'd get in trouble for bringing a bomb-looking thing to school. double points that he's brown.

[Rufus]

Fake in what way? Children are naive as fuck, even teenagers. And if he hadn't internalized his 'special' place in society until now, he sure as shit has now.

[Phoenix Dark]

[Joe Molotov]

http://adequateman.deadspin.com/the-caucasians-guide-to-black-churches-1733893737

Is this accurate?

[Madrun Badrun]

putting this here cause i cant find the doc thread.  20min in and its pretty great

[Mods Help]

https://thsppl.com/why-i-m-absolutely-an-angry-black-woman-2cf74c95828#.fic8olvlt

this is pretty excellent all around.

Why I’m Absolutely an Angry Black Woman

Photo by Femi Matti

Because when I was five, my kindergarten classmate told me I couldn’t be the princess in the game we were playing because black girls couldn’t be princesses. Because I was in third grade the first time a teacher seemed shocked at how “well-spoken” I was. Because in fourth grade I was told my crush didn’t like black girls. Because in sixth grade a different crush told me I was pretty — for a black girl. Because in 7th grade my predominantly black suburban neighborhood was nicknamed “Spring Ghettos” instead of calling it its name (Spring Meadows). Because I was in 8th grade the first time I was called an Oreo and told that I “wasn’t really black” like it was a compliment.

Because in 9th grade when I switched schools a boy told me he knew I had to be mixed with something to be so pretty. Because in 10th grade my group of friends and I were called into an office and asked if we were a gang, or if we had father figures. Because in 11th grade my AP English teacher told me that I didn’t write like a college-bound student (though I later scored perfectly on the exam). Because when I volunteered in Costa Rica that summer, I was whistled at and called Negrita. Because when I asked my host father if that was like being called distinguished black fellow, he said, no, it was a compliment because black women are perceived to be very good in bed. Because I was a kid. Because I watched from the bleachers while the school resource officer didn’t let my brother into a football game after mistaking him for another black boy who was banned. Because the school resource officer maced him for insisting he was wrong. Because I was suspended for telling the school resource officer he didn’t deserve respect. Because my senior year boyfriend said distinguished black fellow.

Because I was one of two black girls in the freshman class at my college. Because at meetings to talk about how to attract more black students, someone suggested that the school attracted a certain demographic (sustainable living, farming, general hippiness) and that maybe black people “just weren’t interested in things like that.” Because my college boyfriend called me a “fiery negress” as a joke when he ordered for me at a restaurant. Because the boyfriend after that cut me off for saying he was privileged. Because I can’t return to my hometown without getting pulled over.

Because when I got married people assumed I was pregnant. Because people who know I’m married call my husband my “baby daddy.” Because my pregnancy with my son was plagued with videos of black lives being taken in cold blood. Because their murderers still walk the streets. Because the nation sent me a message that my son’s life didn’t matter. Because when Tamir Rice was murdered I curled up on the bed and sobbed, cupping my belly. Because my son heard me sobbing from the inside. Because they don’t care about us. Because when I was 7 months pregnant my neighbor asked me to help him move a dresser up a flight of stairs. Because I am not seen as a woman. Because I am not allowed to be fragile. Because the nurse that checked me in at the hospital to deliver wouldn’t look my husband in the eye. Because the vast majority of people won’t look my husband in the eye. Because when the doctors put my son in my arms and I saw that he was as dark as his father, I knew life would be even harder for him. Because he will be regarded the same way I was. Because he will be forced to grow up before he is grown. Because strangers at the store think it’s okay to reach into my son’s stroller and touch him without a word to me. Because we aren’t entitled to boundaries. Because they think we are here for their enjoyment. Because people don’t think we are people.

Because my nephew told me he couldn’t be Spider Man like he wants to because Spider Man is white. Because when he was four he said that he wants to be white so that he can go on a boat like the people on TV. Because I couldn’t save him from that. Because I can’t protect my son. Because I can’t protect myself. Because my stomach sinks whenever I see a police car. Because when my husband leaves the house at night I am afraid he’ll be killed for looking like somebody. Because I worry that if I went missing like the 64,000 other black women in this nation, the authorities wouldn’t try hard to find me. Because I am disposable. Because I am hated. Because we keep dying. Because they justify our deaths. Because no one is held accountable. Because I am gas lighted. Because I have been told that by speaking about being oppressed I am victimizing myself. Because our murders are filmed and still pardoned. Because I don’t know what it means to let loose. Because doing the things that my white peers do with ease could cost me my life — trespassing in abandoned buildings, smoking joints, wearing a hoodie, looking an officer in the eye, playing music loudly, existing. Because I am afraid to relax. Because I am traumatized.

Because there isn’t a place in the world White Supremacy hasn’t touched. Because I am trapped here. Because the playing field isn’t leveled. Because I love my skin. Because I love being a woman. Because not hating myself is considered radical. Because I’ve been called racist for defending myself. Because all the major protests are for cis black men. Because I’ve been told that talking about the women who’ve died is taking away from the real issue. Because I get no break from fighting. Because everything is a struggle. Because my anger isn’t validated. Because they don’t care about my pain. Because they don’t believe in my pain. Because they forgive themselves without atoning. Because I’m not free. Because the awareness of it permeates everything. Because it’s not ending. Because they teach the children that it’s already ended. Because someone will assert their supremacy over me today. Because they’ll do it tomorrow. Because I want more. Because I deserve better.

And it also fits a very apt James Baldwin quote:



A year ago I wrote this:

I'm angry all the time over the past few weeks watching the trajectory of the United States. As a black American it scares me how little this nation cares for us. The amount of police brutality booming makes me fear my family's future. I cannot get over the anger that tells me that black lives don't matter. I'm working on a two way street. On one hand, my compassion pains me because it's treating an entire group - one I'm a part of - as less than human. On the other, this compassion is driving me to suffering.

It's getting a point where I'm taking my anger out on people I like and I'm losing compassion for everything. It's turning me into a fairly miserable person. But I can't let it go and it won't go away. I'm usually highly empathetic. Meditation and buddhism have helped me to become a better person, and while I realize that's not the inherent point, it was a nice bonus feature. But here I am incapable of applying everything I learned and it's hurting me and people I love. It honestly scares me. I know it won't be this way forever but I'm losing patience. I tried to talk to my abbot at my zen center this past week and they're having a(nother) sesshin. I swear they have a sesshin every month, good lord. I feel like I have no one to run to for advice. Not even meditation is helping.

I now no longer reject the anger. I'm angry every day. I now no longer associate with any white people that aren't related to my job unless online. The only white person I actively talk to and involve in my life is Mupepe. I'm fucking pissed and I love it. Embrace the anger.

[Phoenix Dark]

 

[Madrun Badrun]

Sounds like you went to the dark side, Himu.

[Mods Help]

Thank goodness.

[Phoenix Dark]

Still not sure whether Mods Help is still some troll from neofeg or maybe someone entirely new.

[Mods Help]

Still not sure whether Mods Help is still some troll from neofeg or maybe someone entirely new.

You sure are a special kind of stupid.

[Phoenix Dark]

Wasn't your bitch ass using trans slurs just a few weeks ago? 

[Mods Help]

 

[toku]

Gotta learn to play the game PD