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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #660 on: June 19, 2016, 07:24:17 PM »
 Once again, Father Mike self-immolates his way to victory.


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« Reply #662 on: June 30, 2016, 06:44:33 PM »
http://www.newrepublic.com/article/121550/cornel-wests-rise-fall-our-most-exciting-black-scholar-ghost

The fuckery already flowing from this article :lawd

Finally read this more than a year later.  Such a delicious slow roasting. :whew

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« Reply #663 on: July 02, 2016, 10:46:40 PM »
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/policing-the-police/

Jesus the cops who think its totally ok to start an encounter off with physical force just to keep their pansy asses safe. 
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« Reply #664 on: July 03, 2016, 11:29:41 PM »

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« Reply #665 on: July 04, 2016, 02:21:20 AM »
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/pride-parade-toronto-1.3662823

BLM in Toronto is really scummy.

Apparently they also set up t-shirt stands that only black people could buy stuff from  :lol

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #666 on: July 04, 2016, 09:55:50 AM »
http://jezebel.com/judge-orders-macys-to-quit-fining-detaining-suspected-1782962867

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A judge has ordered Macy’s to immediately quit detaining and fining people suspected of shoplifting. A class action lawsuit claims that Macy’s detained at least two women suspected of shoplifting in holding cells for hours in the basement of the chain’s flagship in New York. Both women were forced to pay the store while in detention, a practice known as “civil recovery,” then turned over the NYPD and criminally charged.

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« Reply #667 on: July 04, 2016, 11:15:09 AM »
wtf?

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #668 on: July 06, 2016, 08:53:37 PM »
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« Reply #669 on: July 19, 2016, 11:35:08 PM »
Today I asked if this dude with a super heavy Indian accent was from Toronto.  You know cause I didn't want to just assume shit.  I'm pretty sure I could hear his eyes roll.

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« Reply #670 on: July 24, 2016, 12:41:08 PM »


Interview with former Bundeswehr officer Gaho Burhibwa.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #671 on: July 24, 2016, 04:47:19 PM »
I saw two black college-age guys get in a fight because one called the other "ashy" in a serious, not-joking-at-all way. Giant dudes too.

Some observations and a question.

1. GODDAMN, KIDS NOWADAYS ARE MASSIVE. Guy 1 was about 6'6" ~400lb. Guy 2 was about 6'9" ~350lbs. Neither man was very quick or agile, otherwise they were fucking gonna be on D1 scholarship somewhere headed for the League.


2. Phone cameras, phone cameras everywhere.


3. What does the term "ashy" even mean, and why would two non-drunk guys fight over it the way they did?
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« Reply #672 on: July 24, 2016, 06:57:48 PM »
The Bore taught me that some black folk absolutely have to use lotion to not look ashy due to dry skin. Coconut lotion specifically, though I don't know why.

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« Reply #673 on: July 24, 2016, 09:21:12 PM »
PD taught me what it means to be ashy too. :interracial

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« Reply #674 on: July 25, 2016, 12:47:26 AM »
Being "ashy" just means you have visibly dry skin.  It sort of looks like there's ash on you.


From a Cosmo article on how to avoid ashy skin

For the past few months I've been carrying a full sized bottle of lotion in my bag whenever I go out in public.  I wash/sanitize my hands a lot so the backs of my hands and my fingers get easily cracked.  At its worst it can cause pain.  Dry skin is just a lot more noticeable when you're black.  Most people don't carry lotion on them like that though.  That's me taking extra precautions.

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« Reply #675 on: July 25, 2016, 09:53:11 AM »
That's not the only way ashy is used nowadays. It's an insult that could mean broke, dirty, lazy, ignorant, etc. Just typed it into twitter's search bar and saw someone call Umar Johnson "king of the ashy homophobic hoteps".

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« Reply #676 on: July 25, 2016, 09:59:39 AM »
Semantic drift in action, neat. Would explain the altercation T234 described.

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« Reply #677 on: July 25, 2016, 10:00:12 PM »
Today I was TAing the kids with last names T to Z.  So 90% of their last names in the class are either wang, wu or zhao and I did something racist.  I couldn't figure out how to pronounce a Chinese name so I asked the closest person to me, who was also Chinese.  He didn't know. 

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« Reply #681 on: December 11, 2016, 08:18:47 PM »
Buying shit at Victoria Secret in person instead of online :holeup

Go online, they always have deals. 5 PINK brand panties for $27.50. Sometimes it's 7 for $27.50.
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« Reply #682 on: December 11, 2016, 08:21:57 PM »
Did you at least go into the store to get sized first PD?

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« Reply #683 on: December 24, 2016, 02:22:50 PM »
Over the past few years there’s been a noticeable Caribbean (mainly reggae and dancehall) influence in pop.  It’s in some of my favorite songs over the past few years (The Blacker the Berry and I’m In It, both of which feature Assassin).  Busta Rhymes uses Patois throughout We Got It From Here.  He and Phife have been using it to spice up their verses for decades, but I was surprised at how heavily I fucked with it on the last Tribe album.

A few nights ago, I looked up the samples on Famous from TLOP.  I recognized the Patois the first time I heard Kanye’s song, but it was with a different voice.  My grandmother played the original Bam Bam by Toots & The Maytals (theirs was reworked by Sister Nancy who was sampled in Famous) a lot when I was growing up.



I’ve been feeling guilty for liking these American renditions since I used to distance myself from Caribbean, specifically Jamaican culture as much as possible.  My mother used to fly me back to Jamaica every summer and I always hated it.  As time went on, we couldn’t afford to go as often and eventually she stopped taking me with her because I kept complaining.  Now, I’ve got family out there I haven’t seen in years.

I’m still in the process of unlearning the internalized cism I started picking up as a toddler.  At this point I don’t even know where I would go to find good reggae or dancehall music.  The caucasity in most of the places I discover new music online is overly prevalent.  With hip-hop this doesn’t really bother me too much since I started listening way before I was reading any “prestigious” music criticism.  I have a wider appreciation for the genre than the stuff that usually gets covered in the press.  I’m worried that if I go looking for Jamaican music without the same grounding that I did for hip-hop, I’ll end up only being exposed to stuff that appeals to white Americans.  I’ll start by asking my grandmother what she grew up listening to.

What Caribbean music do y’all listen to if any? 

Toku’s Jamaican right?  Does any of this sound familiar?

My family also played this one a lot.  Chaka Demus & Pliers - Murder She Wrote.  Turns out that one’s been sampled by a bunch of American artists as well.


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« Reply #684 on: December 24, 2016, 02:34:45 PM »
Toku is Jamaican and so is Beezy.

That Jamaican steez.

I love Caribbean music. I'm not familiar with y'all culture tho.
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« Reply #685 on: December 24, 2016, 03:38:00 PM »
Anyways, I got my dad some Documentaries for Christmas. Besides Planet Earth/Life they're all African diaspora based. I got him The African American's: Many Rivers To Cross, Black in Latin America, and Black Panthers. If you can't tell I'm a big proponent of Henry Louis Gates! I wanted to get him Black America Since MLK but it's only available for pre order.
I wanted to get him an African documentary that goes over various cultures and stuff but can't find a good one. There's one on Amazon but it has a mixed reaction.

I got him Black in Latin America because I'm also dating a black latino and he's been interested in black people in Latino countries.

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« Reply #686 on: December 24, 2016, 04:13:11 PM »
links?


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« Reply #688 on: December 24, 2016, 05:24:05 PM »
Ya I watch tons of PBS docs

If you haven't seen Eyes of the Prize you should  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eyes_on_the_Prize
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« Reply #689 on: January 16, 2017, 10:15:43 PM »
A couple weeks ago, I spoke to my grandmother about what I talked about in my last post in this thread.  She doesn’t really have the same relationship with music that I do, but it was a very interesting conversation anyway.  She listened to Neville Willoughby on the radio as he was a popular DJ when she was growing up.  One of her favorite artists was Jimmy Cliff who I already knew of but never listened to a full project by.  She met a few people who later became pretty influential figures in Jamaican culture and politics.

She lived in Jones Town for a period of her youth.  It’s a part of Kingston adjacent to Trenchtown: The home of a young Bob Marley.  My grandmother knew him and Peter Tosh on a first name basis, but weren’t especially close.  Occasionally, she’d catch them playing drums in their yard.  As their careers started taking off she drifted even further from them.

At one point she worked in the same office with Portia Simpson-Miller who served as Prime Minister decades later.  She knew two of the McNeills (a family known to be very active politically).  She was closest with Sylva (who celebrated her hundredth birthday in November) and was familiar with Sylvia’s brother and Member of Parliament Kenneth.

My grandmother’ll be 75 this year.  I’m sure anyone that age or older has come into contact with people who had a big impact so I don’t want to overstate the significance of having met any of these people.  It might be even more common in a place like Jamaica where the population was less than 2 million when she was a young adult.  It was still cool to find out!

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« Reply #690 on: January 16, 2017, 10:25:33 PM »




Born and raised (until I was 14). Just a couple tracks that were impotant to me growing up. I remember when I first came here, to live (i had visited before) and the culture shock of just...so many white people kinda set me back a bit. Didn't help that I was in a super white area as well. It fucked me up and I'd be lying if I said I was done working through all of that shit.

On the note of who your grandma knew, it's def. a jamaican thing, not to take away from here. It's a small island and if you're even a little bit social you'll always end up at least one or two persons removed from someone kinda big. I used to live in the same little community as sean paul's cousins. I was a big Sean Paul fan even before the Get Busy days, ppl there didn't really rate him until they same him bussing on BET lol. So I got to meet him once. My sister who is older used to go to a lot of sessions was hounded by elephant man at a few and my father is in some old beanie man video from the early 90s.

As a little side note, the riddim Rihanna's work interpolates(?), "Sailaway Riddim" is from like 98 and Sean Paul had a song on it:


I remember waiting by the radio to record this kinda shit on cassettes and selling it to my sister's friends haha.

Also one of my few vinyl regrets, when I was living in NC I saw great copy of the "The Harder They Come" soundtrack I meant to pick up but didn't. Still think about it. It's an old 70s Jamaican movie and Jimmy Cliff did the soundtrack iirc:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Harder_They_Come
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« Reply #691 on: January 16, 2017, 11:12:41 PM »

Thanks Toku.  I've got some digging to do.

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« Reply #692 on: January 16, 2017, 11:41:33 PM »
Be careful with Sizzla. Something happened around 99 or so and he started making real hardcore dancehall and going hard on the homophobia. So much so iirc he was banned from performing in parts of Europe. I was shook when i first heard all this shit coming from him because this is the kinda stuff I knew him for:


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« Reply #693 on: January 17, 2017, 12:34:34 PM »
Be careful with Sizzla. Something happened around 99 or so and he started making real hardcore dancehall and going hard on the homophobia.
This was one of my reasons for avoiding Jamaican music in the past.  Eventually, I realized it wasn't really fair since I'm able to appreciate the entertainment value of other media while remaining opposed to their prejudices.  I was holding reggae and dancehall to a higher standard purely because it was a part of Jamaican culture.  I may never be completely consistent in deciding whether or not to consume art that spreads hate, but I don't want it to limit what I can learn about my background.

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Re: The brown/black folk thread #DSF
« Reply #694 on: January 17, 2017, 01:01:55 PM »
PlayDat do you eat pussy? Just curious since you're Jamaican.
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« Reply #695 on: January 17, 2017, 07:23:55 PM »
 :heh No, never had any kind of sex.  Just minimal dating experience.  I don't have any objection to cunnilingus though.

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« Reply #696 on: April 21, 2017, 07:37:50 PM »
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