Author Topic: Apple exists... (Read 4335 times)

futami · « **on:** January 13, 2007, 07:17:12 PM »

to hawk products for wealthy young whites.

if you're 18-35, white and wealthy, the iphone is for you.

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:18:22 PM »

I still say I can get the same shit from taping my nano to my cellphone wtf!

Lonestar · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:24:16 PM »

Quote from: MrAngryFace on January 13, 2007, 07:18:22 PM

I still say I can get the same shit from taping my nano to my cellphone wtf!

You can watch movies on your nano?

futami · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:28:50 PM »

on my cellphone, i can listen to music, view movies, email, play games, creat word and excel documents, and do plenty more.

the ipod, like all of apple's products, is for young, wealthy whites who feel a need to worship a brand.

TVC15 · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:32:04 PM »

Awwww, poor futami wants Apple products but he can't get any. Now I am sure he will treat us with a lengthy diatribe about how wealthy he is and how he can buy as many Apple products as he wants, but chooses not to.

Lonestar · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:33:25 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 07:32:04 PM

Awwww, poor futami wants Apple products but he can't get any. Now I am sure he will treat us with a lengthy diatribe about how wealthy he is and how he can buy as many Apple products as he wants, but chooses not to.

Of course not. Jeans remain his first priority.

TVC15 · « **Reply #6 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:34:55 PM »

Quote from: Lonestar on January 13, 2007, 07:33:25 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 07:32:04 PM
Awwww, poor futami wants Apple products but he can't get any. Now I am sure he will treat us with a lengthy diatribe about how wealthy he is and how he can buy as many Apple products as he wants, but chooses not to.

Of course not. Jeans remain his first priority.

Well, I guess jeans are more prominent when you're scroungin' around for asses down at the corner Burger King, right?

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:35:11 PM »

Quote from: futami on January 13, 2007, 07:28:50 PM

on my cellphone, i can listen to music, view movies, email, play games, creat word and excel documents, and do plenty more.

the ipod, like all of apple's products, is for young, wealthy whites who feel a need to worship a brand.

Unlike, say, young black men who feel the need to spend the $600 on jeans and sneakers.

ToxicAdam · « **Reply #8 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:38:00 PM »

Quote from: futami on January 13, 2007, 07:17:12 PM

to hawk products for wealthy young whites.

if you're 18-35, white and wealthy, the iphone is for you.

Sounds like Tommy Hilfiger back in the early 80's. How did that all turn out?

MrAngryFace · « **Reply #9 on:** January 13, 2007, 07:49:44 PM »

Well then ill tape my VIDEO to my cellphone, whatever same dif you apple zombies lol

futami · « **Reply #10 on:** January 13, 2007, 08:25:37 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 07:32:04 PM

Awwww, poor futami wants Apple products but he can't get any. Now I am sure he will treat us with a lengthy diatribe about how wealthy he is and how he can buy as many Apple products as he wants, but chooses not to.

you miss the point.

as i said, apple hawks product for young, wealthy whites -- they're not targeted towards my demo.

this thread has absolutely nothing to do with the state of my finances.

however, with that said, i doubt someone with a closet full of $350-500 jeans would encounter much difficulty procuring one.

btw, i don't own a single apple product.

my blackberry is more functional than the iphone.

futami · « **Reply #11 on:** January 13, 2007, 08:28:30 PM »

basically, it's about the mindless devotion so many exhibit towards this brand.

and i only see young, wealthy whites do so.

that the iphone lacks functions that exist in my blackberry means little to these people.

brawndolicious · « **Reply #12 on:** January 13, 2007, 08:30:08 PM »

1. Not everybody your age can spend rent money on pants.
2. Blackberry isn't better.
3. What is your demographic?

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #13 on:** January 13, 2007, 08:30:25 PM »

gee, mindless devotion to product has race and gender as discriminating characteristics! interesting point, newsletter, subscribe, yadda yadda

TVC15 · « **Reply #14 on:** January 13, 2007, 09:10:45 PM »

So basically, futami, let me get this straight:

White people : Apple products :: Black people : pants

Christopher · « **Reply #15 on:** January 13, 2007, 09:36:11 PM »

I have a iPod and an iPod nano, and I wanted to get a apple laptop but I'm on the fence about that. Apple's pretty cool though, although the iPod battery life is shit

futami · « **Reply #16 on:** January 13, 2007, 09:42:05 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 09:10:45 PM

So basically, futami, let me get this straight:

White people : Apple products :: Black people : pants

no, white people purchase overpriced shit hawked by a company that knows they'll flock to it simply because it's an effete looking apple product in off-white coloring.

futami · « **Reply #17 on:** January 13, 2007, 09:43:15 PM »

Quote from: Christopher on January 13, 2007, 09:36:11 PM

I have a iPod and an iPod nano, and I wanted to get a apple laptop but I'm on the fence about that. Apple's pretty cool though, although the iPod battery life is shit

but why, when you can purchase cheaper mp3 players that are just good as, if not better than, the ipod variants?

TVC15 · « **Reply #18 on:** January 13, 2007, 09:59:51 PM »

Quote from: futami on January 13, 2007, 09:42:05 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 09:10:45 PM
So basically, futami, let me get this straight:

White people : Apple products :: Black people : pants

no, white people purchase overpriced shit hawked by a company that knows they'll flock to it simply because it's an effete looking apple product in off-white coloring.

Whereas black people lust after high priced jeans? C'mon, futami. You're being completely ridiculous. I won't deny that Apple is a boutique electronics company that makes high priced products, but their shaz is generally good quality. Just like how your high priced jeans are of good quality.

What I'm seeing here is a hypocrite. I'm a pretty big Apple whore, and I won't deny it, but that also means it wouldn't be fair for me to criticize people that also pray at the altar of consumerism, a lesson you'd do well to learn futami.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #19 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:00:32 PM »

you can also buy better pants that don't look as good but well you know

futami · « **Reply #20 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:08:58 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 09:59:51 PM

Quote from: futami on January 13, 2007, 09:42:05 PM
Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 09:10:45 PM
So basically, futami, let me get this straight:

White people : Apple products :: Black people : pants

no, white people purchase overpriced shit hawked by a company that knows they'll flock to it simply because it's an effete looking apple product in off-white coloring.

Whereas black people lust after high priced jeans? C'mon, futami. You're being completely ridiculous. I won't deny that Apple is a boutique electronics company that makes high priced products, but their shaz is generally good quality. Just like how your high priced jeans are of good quality.

What I'm seeing here is a hypocrite. I'm a pretty big Apple whore, and I won't deny it, but that also means it wouldn't be fair for me to criticize people that also pray at the altar of consumerism, a lesson you'd do well to learn futami.

well, yeah, i wear $400 jeans and $300 sneakers.

but guess what?

i'm IN that shit most of the day.

i think electronics, generally speaking, are OVERPRICED -- apple, et. al.

perhaps, more than disdain for apple products, i possess a general aversion to overpriced eletronics.

futami · « **Reply #21 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:09:31 PM »

Quote from: Drinky Crow on January 13, 2007, 10:00:32 PM

you can also buy better pants that don't look as good but well you know

i don't buy expensive jeans because of how they look.

it's how they fit.

ask lonestar.

TVC15 · « **Reply #22 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:16:23 PM »

Quote from: futami on January 13, 2007, 10:08:58 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 09:59:51 PM
Quote from: futami on January 13, 2007, 09:42:05 PM
Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 09:10:45 PM
So basically, futami, let me get this straight:

White people : Apple products :: Black people : pants

no, white people purchase overpriced shit hawked by a company that knows they'll flock to it simply because it's an effete looking apple product in off-white coloring.

Whereas black people lust after high priced jeans? C'mon, futami. You're being completely ridiculous. I won't deny that Apple is a boutique electronics company that makes high priced products, but their shaz is generally good quality. Just like how your high priced jeans are of good quality.

What I'm seeing here is a hypocrite. I'm a pretty big Apple whore, and I won't deny it, but that also means it wouldn't be fair for me to criticize people that also pray at the altar of consumerism, a lesson you'd do well to learn futami.

well, yeah, i wear $400 jeans and $300 sneakers.

but guess what?

i'm IN that shit most of the day.

i think electronics, generally speaking, are OVERPRICED -- apple, et. al.

perhaps, more than disdain for apple products, i possess a general aversion to overpriced eletronics.

Well, I get a ton of usage out of my macs and my iPod. Being on a mac, the iPod is the most logical (and most supported) mp3 player on the mac. I get Apple products because I like them, they do what they do well, and I don't the higher cost is that prohibitive in ratio with their quality. They offer decent support, too.

Being a geek probably has something to do with it, too.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:19:01 PM »

Fuck Apple and anyone else dumb enough to buy a $500 phone. Hell the PS3 offers more for your money than that shit

Bacon · « **Reply #24 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:20:30 PM »

I think I'm going to pay $600 for the phone.

cloudwalking · « **Reply #25 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:22:38 PM »

I'll trade naked pix for an iphone.

TVC15 · « **Reply #26 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:24:15 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2007, 10:19:01 PM

Fuck Apple and anyone else dumb enough to buy a $500 phone. Hell the PS3 offers more for your money than that shit

Well, as a black man, you are not in the Apple market. You are in the pants market.

I'm going to wait for reviews on the iPhone. It looks purty nice, but it's a new area for Apple and who knows if they can deliver. They also left some tantalizing questions unanswered. I'm also kind of disappointed about the company moving more and more away from computers :-/

Shit I wish I had some of their stock, though.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #27 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:25:53 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 10:24:15 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2007, 10:19:01 PM
Fuck Apple and anyone else dumb enough to buy a $500 phone. Hell the PS3 offers more for your money than that shit

Well, as a black man, you are not in the Apple market. You are in the AIDS market.

I'm going to wait for reviews on the iPhone. It looks purty nice, but it's a new area for Apple and who knows if they can deliver. They also left some tantalizing questions unanswered. I'm also kind of disappointed about the company moving more and more away from computers :-/

Shit I wish I had some of their stock, though.

Fixed.

And did you hear 50 Cent is working on bringing Apple products to the hood for my fellow blacks like TBS?

TVC15 · « **Reply #28 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:27:48 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2007, 10:25:53 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 10:24:15 PM
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2007, 10:19:01 PM
Fuck Apple and anyone else dumb enough to buy a $500 phone. Hell the PS3 offers more for your money than that shit

Well, as a black man, you are not in the Apple market. You are in the AIDS market.

I'm going to wait for reviews on the iPhone. It looks purty nice, but it's a new area for Apple and who knows if they can deliver. They also left some tantalizing questions unanswered. I'm also kind of disappointed about the company moving more and more away from computers :-/

Shit I wish I had some of their stock, though.
Fixed.

And did you hear 50 Cent is working on bringing Apple products to the hood for my fellow blacks like TBS?

Looking to bust open a new, wide market for kevlar iPod cases, no doubt.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #29 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:36:04 PM »

You never know when them snitches from Redmond might want to bust a cap on a nicca

TVC15 · « **Reply #30 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:45:15 PM »

I also don't get why people complain about targeted marketing. Hey, that's the nature of consumerism! Yeah, sometimes it's shady and morally in a gray area (and I'm talking about things like alcohol and cigarette adverts - not Apple products), but getting rid of targeted marketing and the policing of marketing in general would be approaching censorship. Not only that, but our world today is a world of advertisements. There weren't billboards and ads everywhere just a century ago. It is slimy to say, but advertisements and marketing are now part of our culture, and to police them would be harming the texture of our reality.

Note that I am NOT arguing in favor of advertisements being our culture. I just believe that the way things now are a better alternative to a world where advertisements are non-targeted, just the facts affair. It's an ugly world, and we have to make compromises. I'll take advertising culture over bland, neutered PC culture any day.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #31 on:** January 13, 2007, 10:51:51 PM »

Anyone who has a problem with that simply doesn't understand business. One of the first things you've gotta do before selling a product is determining if there's a market for it - and if there is, you must recognize exactly who is in that market. Not all products are created to cater to "everyone", instead locking in one niche groups or specific demographics.

With that in mind, of course there is a demographic out there who sees nothing wrong or challenging about spending $500 on a phone. That sort of "hipster" (I hate to use that word) electronic enthusiast is a huge and very lucrative demographic. That being said, I don't belive that demographic is large enough to sustain a product like the iPhone considering it's going to be competing with phones that do indeed appeal to the very mainstream market that has made cellular phones such a massive success in this country

TVC15 · « **Reply #32 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:05:52 PM »

Well, PD, while I feel it's too early to say how well the iPhone will fare in the market, I think the initial model will do well enough to at least warrant a second edition.

You see, Apple knows it has a decently-sized market chunk of diehard fanboys that worship the company, and they can count on those fanboys buying up the first batch of phones, making the initial "wave" a success. What happens after the initial splash has a lot to do with reviews and word of market and whether Apple is capable of delivering on some of its promises. Either way, I think the initial fanboy fueled success will give them the go ahead to put revision 2 on the fast track.

I think if Apple is smart, they will realize that they have to chop off about 200 bucks if they want this baby to go mass market, and if they realize that, I think rev 2 will be th e"mass market" iPhone. It will cost less, and maybe it will have the best possible available technology that will get it in peoples' hands for 400 dollars or less, even if that means a slightly slower processor or whatever.

Of course, cell technology moves lightning fast, so I'm sure a lot of things are planned and then immediately scrapped. I'm sure the lengthy dev time on the phone was a result of the fluxy market.

Anyway, it's going to be interesting to see what happens when a big, established company tries to break into a market where there are a few big dogs that are more likely to buy out and merge with competition than to actually try to compete.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #33 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:07:47 PM »

The iPhone would have been a big deal three or four years ago. But now?

TVC15 · « **Reply #34 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:09:06 PM »

Can you back up that roll eyes with any thoughts, or are you as stupid as much as you are a permavirgin?

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #35 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:09:49 PM »

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 11:09:06 PM

Can you back up that roll eyes with any thoughts, or are you as stupid as much as you are a permavirgin?

The iPhone would have been a big deal three or four years ago. But now?

TVC15 · « **Reply #36 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:13:15 PM »

I don't see any thought there. I see a statement you probably read somewhere else and decided that it would make you seem like you had an actual view on the product when you parroted it here.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #37 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:16:21 PM »

I despise cell phones, but even if I didn't I would be scared to buy a $500 phone. If I ever dropped it and fucked the screen up (and it's all screen, which will presumably be combined with Apple brand scratch-magnetism), I'd probably sit right down on the spot and cry.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #38 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:17:23 PM »

Shake...no.

Touch screen technology is still considered very inventive, and Apple has introduced something way ahead of the competition. Of course it's not just about the touch screen. I may not like the price at all, but the thing is a damn impressive piece of hardware.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #39 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:19:02 PM »

Most people couldn't give a fuck about touch screen techonology on their fucking cells, and the screen would no doubt be rendered useless after about a week. Besides for uber careful tech nerds, the general public will just toss the phones in their pockets or handbags with all their other junk, and complain after the screen is broken mere days after purchase.

TVC15 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:22:41 PM »

So why does that mean it would've been a good idea 3-4 years ago, as you previously said?

Oh, because you didn't mean your original posts. You were just parroting something you read elsewhere, and when called on it you had to come up with a reason to write the phone off.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #41 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:25:50 PM »

Calm down, TVC.

The phone is a technical wonder, which would have worked much better three or four years ago, but is still impractical and over-priced. Therefore, it is likely to fail in the "real" (i.e. not 100% Apple oriented) world.

TVC15 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:29:39 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on January 13, 2007, 11:25:50 PM

Calm down, TVC.

The phone is a technical wonder, which would have worked much better three or four years ago, but is still impractical and over-priced. Therefore, it is likely to fail in the "real" (i.e. not 100% Apple oriented) world.

Soooooo, 3-4 years ago, people were cool with impractical products, but not today? Not that I think you can even back up the impractical claim.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #43 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:30:46 PM »

No, but the tech would be even more impressive three or four years ago. Is it really that hard to understand?

futami · « **Reply #44 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:30:54 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on January 13, 2007, 11:07:47 PM

The iPhone would have been a big deal three or four years ago. But now?

lol....

isn't this white man?

i'm shocked that i actually agree with you.

my 8700 is more functional than a fucking iphone.

futami · « **Reply #45 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:32:14 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 13, 2007, 11:17:23 PM

Shake...no.

Touch screen technology is still considered very inventive, and Apple has introduced something way ahead of the competition. Of course it's not just about the touch screen. I may not like the price at all, but the thing is a damn impressive piece of hardware.

there are phones on the market, amongst which mine is included, that ARE JUST AS FUNCTIONAL.

it's overpriced BS.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #46 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:33:52 PM »

Well futami put it a bit more clearly, but that's exactly what I'm fucking talking about. The iPhone would be a revolutionary device 3-4 yrs ago, now its just an overpriced, extra-sensitive piece of scrap metal.

TVC15 · « **Reply #47 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:43:44 PM »

I, of course, disagree. The touch screen is sex, and the phone is running OSX. If there are no major caveats, that makes the phone a developers dream. That's the best part of the phone in my opinion. And the touch screen is nice, but I won't bother getting excited over it until I know it won't scratch. The 5.5G iPods were more scratch resistant than previous models, so I'm thinking some R&D went into that area.

Christopher · « **Reply #48 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:49:21 PM »

TVC what can you actually DO with the iTV?

The touchscreen IS sex, that's why I can't get it, because I drop my phone all the time.

TVC15 · « **Reply #49 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:53:15 PM »

Quote from: Christopher on January 13, 2007, 11:49:21 PM

TVC what can you actually DO with the iTV?

The touchscreen IS sex, that's why I can't get it, because I drop my phone all the time.

You can stream shit from your computer (PS or mac) to the iTv unit which is connected to your TV. SO you can basically watch shit on your computer without burning it to a disc and carrying it to the TV and putting it in the DVD player. I don't think it really sounds all that useful. Maybe it would if I lived in a house and my computer wasn't 5 feet from my TV.

The Miles Trahan Burger Experiment · « **Reply #50 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:54:51 PM »

Or if you couldn't do that with a million other pieces of tech already.

TVC15 · « **Reply #51 on:** January 13, 2007, 11:59:44 PM »

Quote from: The Dark Shake on January 13, 2007, 11:54:51 PM

Or if you couldn't do that with a million other pieces of tech already.

Yeah, but it's one of those areas where it hasn't been gotten completely right in an easy way. Media Center is the closest and that has a host of issues (that are hopefully resolved with Vista). I don't care about iTV that much, but I don't think it's necessarily a bad idea.

I don't see it doing very good business outside of the fanboy sector.

Lonestar · « **Reply #52 on:** January 14, 2007, 12:02:44 AM »

Quote from: futami on January 13, 2007, 10:09:31 PM

Quote from: Drinky Crow on January 13, 2007, 10:00:32 PM
you can also buy better pants that don't look as good but well you know

i don't buy expensive jeans because of how they look.

it's how they fit.

ask lonestar.

yep

i have a closet full of gap,abercrombie and BR jeans that i will not wear anymore due simply to the fact that i took the plunge and heeded futami's praises....

Christopher · « **Reply #53 on:** January 14, 2007, 12:06:07 AM »

Ezra Fitch pants DID fit good, but I could never make that leap ;p

I think I will at least try and buy one so I can try them for more than 2 minutes.

Diablos · « **Reply #54 on:** January 14, 2007, 12:38:58 AM »

I'm a white boy, and while not a rich one, I could've asked for Apple products for my birthday or over the holidays; I didn't. I think Apple products, generally speaking, are overpriced. But they're not just for rich white boys. Maybe Macworld is

, but iPods and the like are for anyone. Why do you think people get mugged for them? It's a hot item that EVERYONE wants, doesn't matter what you look like. I guarantee you there's a black dude right now who has like 10 Apple products, yet I have none.

Vizzys · « **Reply #55 on:** January 14, 2007, 01:39:38 AM »

itunes sucks, thus in turn ipods do as well.

APF · « **Reply #56 on:** January 14, 2007, 12:54:51 PM »

Sometimes you just have to appreciate the detail and nuance in a troll, like when futami says he prefers the "Blackberry."

Fresh Prince · « **Reply #57 on:** January 14, 2007, 11:52:55 PM »

Is the Blackberry considered 'nicca technology'? Or was that the Sidekick?

Diablos · « **Reply #58 on:** January 15, 2007, 12:09:38 AM »

Quote from: Fresh Prince on January 14, 2007, 11:52:55 PM

Is the Blackberry considered 'nicca technology'? Or was that the Sidekick?

:hehe

AdmiralViscen · « **Reply #59 on:** January 15, 2007, 12:22:07 AM »

Quote from: futami on January 13, 2007, 09:42:05 PM

Quote from: TVC 15 on January 13, 2007, 09:10:45 PM
So basically, futami, let me get this straight:

White people : Apple products :: Black people : pants

no, white people purchase overpriced shit hawked by a company that knows they'll flock to it simply because it's an effete looking apple product in off-white coloring.

How's that different?

Quote from: futami on January 13, 2007, 09:43:15 PM

Quote from: Christopher on January 13, 2007, 09:36:11 PM
I have a iPod and an iPod nano, and I wanted to get a apple laptop but I'm on the fence about that. Apple's pretty cool though, although the iPod battery life is shit

but why, when you can purchase cheaper mp3 players that are just good as, if not better than, the ipod variants?

My jeans fit.

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Author Topic: Apple exists... (Read 4335 times)

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