Author Topic: The Evil Within (dev. Tango Gameworks) (Read 50096 times)

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #120 on:** October 11, 2014, 07:37:05 PM »

who in the flying fuck cares if a third person action/horror game is 30fps or 60fps. I can think of literally only two genres that really benefit from 60fps and that's full-action games like Bayonetta/DMC or racing games. Everything else? Who cares. No one will notice the difference in most genres. The Evil Within is not a game that would benefit much at all from 60fps.

Also, yeah, RE4 is basically the best game in the genre of survival action-horror. Nothing released since has matched it.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #121 on:** October 11, 2014, 07:39:46 PM »

Quote from: Ruzbeh on October 11, 2014, 05:01:01 PM

Nevertheless, 30 fps is unacceptable for any next-gen game, no matter the genre or level of action.

Here's a partial list of Xbone/PS4 games running at 30 fps: Alien Isolation, Assassin's Creed 4, Assassin's Creed Unity, Dead Rising 3, Destiny, Dragon Age: Inquisition, Drive Club, EA Sports UFC, Forza Horizon 2, Gold Club, Infamous: Second Son, Killzone: Shadow Fall, Kinect Sports Rivals, Knack, Lords of the Fallen, Shadow of Mordor, Need for Speed Rivals, Ryse: Son of Rome, Sleeping Dogs: Definitive Edition, Sunset Overdrive, The Crew, The Order: 1886, Thief, and Watch Dogs.

bork · « **Reply #122 on:** October 11, 2014, 07:50:39 PM »

Quote from: Ruzbeh on October 11, 2014, 05:01:01 PM

It's possible I may have directed some of my disgust of Bethesda towards Mikami-san. Nevertheless, 30 fps is unacceptable for any next-gen game, no matter the genre or level of action.

The developer has said that they intended the frame rate to be 30 FPS and with a letterbox aspect ratio after working on it for four years. I don't see what the problem is in this case, plus you can always unlock the framerate on the PC version. Tango doesn't even recommend people do this since they designed the game with 30 FPS in mind.

Himu · « **Reply #123 on:** October 11, 2014, 07:51:12 PM »

Wouldn't fast action be dependent on the type of action you do? Evil Within, from what I heard isn't s full on action game. I could be wrong? But point is, if the game plays like Vanquish, sure. But Evil Within is slow moving and doesn't need to be 60. It's not like being 60 will change how your character moves, either.

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #124 on:** October 11, 2014, 09:47:14 PM »

Quote from: Ruzbeh on October 11, 2014, 07:47:23 PM

Quote from: ZephyrFate on October 11, 2014, 07:37:05 PM
who in the flying fuck cares if a third person action/horror game is 30fps or 60fps.

Anytime there is even the slightest moment of quick action in an otherwise slow moving game, 60 fps would be an enormous improvement. Period. People make it seem like going 60 fps is a huge graphics sacrifice and that's just not the motherfucking case. Super Mario Galaxy is 60 fps on ancient hardware and looks amazing. PS4/X1 are TWO FULL GENERATIONS AHEAD of the Wii. Seems a bit odd to settle for 30 fps.

It's true 30 fps is not as big as an improvement over 60 fps in a slow moving game than in a fast moving game, but an improvement is an improvement. Why are you against progress, Zephyrfate? If that is indeed your real name.

Yeah it's on my birth certificate.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #125 on:** October 11, 2014, 10:20:48 PM »

This thread.

It kind of sucks that its 30 fps but whatever. The game is the game. Get over it. It's not the first or last game this gen that will be like that.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #126 on:** October 12, 2014, 12:58:38 AM »

Or maaaaaaaybe... Ruzbeh is just a special fellow. Just saying.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #127 on:** October 12, 2014, 01:00:32 AM »

Quote from: Human Snorenado on October 12, 2014, 12:58:38 AM

Or maaaaaaaybe... Ruzbeh is just a special fellow. Just saying.

Not disagreeing with that. But the more people feed certain people the more it keeps going down that road.

I fall victim to it myself sometimes but I'm trying to break it.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #128 on:** October 12, 2014, 06:14:45 AM »

Not buying the spiritual successor of RE4 because of 30fps

Smh

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #129 on:** October 12, 2014, 11:29:22 AM »

Any word on the PC version's quality? RE4 was one of my favorite gaming experiences. Playing with my brothers yelling horrible advice, watching them play, etc.

I wonder if this game's environments will be as diverse. I remember Game Informer noting RE4 had some different areas from the wooded area/abandoned houses that dominated the game's coverage before it came out, and seeing them firsthand was pretty fun. The midnight garden, the castle, etc.

Cheddahz · « **Reply #130 on:** October 12, 2014, 11:55:45 AM »

If anyone of are getting this on Tuesday, be sure to post impressions (I'm interested in it, but I have no idea if I want to pay for it at launch)

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #131 on:** October 12, 2014, 12:18:27 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 12, 2014, 11:29:22 AM

I wonder if this game's environments will be as diverse. I remember Game Informer noting RE4 had some different areas from the wooded area/abandoned houses that dominated the game's coverage before it came out, and seeing them firsthand was pretty fun. The midnight garden, the castle, etc.

From what's been shown so far: an urban area with a hospital, an abandoned factory, a rural village, and an old mansion. I don't recall offhand if any more than that has been shown.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #132 on:** October 12, 2014, 01:48:16 PM »

Maybe we can make a play club where one of us plays and streams but there is always someone on party chat there too for moral support

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #133 on:** October 12, 2014, 02:02:34 PM »

First review?

Sounds solid to me!

http://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the_evil_within_review.html

ZephyrFate · « **Reply #134 on:** October 12, 2014, 02:31:30 PM »

still won't buy. 30fps in MY next-gen experience?

??

bork · « **Reply #135 on:** October 12, 2014, 02:42:34 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on October 12, 2014, 02:02:34 PM

First review?

Sounds solid to me!

http://www.videogamer.com/reviews/the_evil_within_review.html

Quote

It sags considerably in the middle, unable to match Resi 4's superb pacing and letting some rather uninspired environments get in the way.

Tasty · « **Reply #136 on:** October 12, 2014, 03:19:49 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 12, 2014, 12:18:27 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on October 12, 2014, 11:29:22 AM
I wonder if this game's environments will be as diverse. I remember Game Informer noting RE4 had some different areas from the wooded area/abandoned houses that dominated the game's coverage before it came out, and seeing them firsthand was pretty fun. The midnight garden, the castle, etc.

From what's been shown so far: an urban area with a hospital, an abandoned factory, a rural village, and an old mansion. I don't recall offhand if any more than that has been shown.

Some kind of post apocalyptic city too.

Himu · « **Reply #137 on:** October 12, 2014, 03:21:53 PM »

Isn't it an ghost town ala silent hill?

Himu · « **Reply #138 on:** October 12, 2014, 03:28:17 PM »

That review seriously got me pumped

Positive please hold me. I haven't played a proper horror game in so long, not since dead space or amnesia and neither of those are about full on survival and resource management that I miss from the old days. I'm almost on the verge of tears (I'm not but still).

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #139 on:** October 12, 2014, 04:06:16 PM »

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There's a satisfaction to combat that feels distinctly Mikami - every encounter is a test, a potential last stand, and it takes true skill to come out alive. Choices have to be made - do you use the various tricks and traps against your enemy, or break them down into ammo for your multi-purpose bow? It's up to you, which makes combat so much fun.

Yes!

Positive Touch · « **Reply #140 on:** October 12, 2014, 04:08:52 PM »

*squeezes you tightly*

I am fighting SO HARD not to spend full price on this.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #141 on:** October 12, 2014, 04:14:22 PM »

I still haven't even finished vanquish or shadows of the damned, despite loving what I played of them, because I am a bad person. really should play thru those instead of spending $60 on this, right guys? RIGHT?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #142 on:** October 12, 2014, 04:16:11 PM »

Nah man, its that kind of attitude that will make you burn out on gaming.

Its a game not a job

Positive Touch · « **Reply #143 on:** October 12, 2014, 04:18:46 PM »

I'm about as likely to give up on gaming as demi is. fuck that shit.

demi · « **Reply #144 on:** October 12, 2014, 04:22:34 PM »

What? Lol

Himu · « **Reply #145 on:** October 12, 2014, 04:29:04 PM »

Quote from: Big Jumbo on October 12, 2014, 04:14:22 PM

I still haven't even finished vanquish or shadows of the damned, despite loving what I played of them, because I am a bad person. really should play thru those instead of spending $60 on this, right guys? RIGHT?

buy it and then finish those later

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #146 on:** October 12, 2014, 04:41:09 PM »

If you did'nt have the time to finish a short game like Vanquish then I'm not sure why you'd spend $60 on this.

Beezy · « **Reply #147 on:** October 12, 2014, 05:44:12 PM »

But he never said he didn't have the time.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #148 on:** October 12, 2014, 05:51:43 PM »

Quote from: Beezy on October 12, 2014, 05:44:12 PM

But he never said he didn't have the time.

What possible reason could you have for not finishing the most amazing three/four game of last gen?

Positive Touch · « **Reply #149 on:** October 12, 2014, 05:56:06 PM »

getting distracted by other amazing games?

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #150 on:** October 12, 2014, 06:03:09 PM »

Well that sounds like you fucked up then.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #151 on:** October 12, 2014, 06:10:11 PM »

The comment dosen't even make any sense? Fanboy of what? Vanquish is a game you can finish in a three maybe even two hour sitting. If you got distracted form what will probably end up being longer and worse game then Vanquish, why would you spend $60 on it?

Play all the worthwhile games? Thats a stupid dig at me that makes no sense.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #152 on:** October 12, 2014, 06:27:23 PM »

I bought it at full price (pc version, natch). Maybe I'll look into streaming it?

a slime appears · « **Reply #153 on:** October 13, 2014, 08:59:16 AM »

I'm on lock for a copy and grabbing one for Demi too. I hope it's good!

demi · « **Reply #154 on:** October 13, 2014, 09:03:22 AM »

thank you darling

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #155 on:** October 14, 2014, 03:19:37 AM »

I'm on chapter 3. This game seems like it feels bad that RE4 let you engage in, you know, action and for the early part of it seems to be giving you a preponderance of, "haw haw, here's this crazy, scary, gross situation that you can't get out of through direct conflict!" Of course, this game does stealth as well as any game ever (read: tolerably at best, but not something you want to base a whole game around) so that sort of thing is wearing thin... and it's still early in the game. I hope that there are opportunities for more action as the game progresses; if not this will NOT be a game I enjoy overall.

The atmosphere is nailed, though. They got that right. Shit is downright creepy from the get go basically.

Graphics- so, this game is not the prettiest thing ever to look at. And my pc is a damn sight more powerful than either of the "next gen" home consoles, so yeah... lighting/shadows etc is done well and contributes to the mood in a positive manner. Pretty much everything else is kind of an eyesore to look at (not a compliment) and the game has pretty bad anti-aliasing issues. (Even though Bethesda just published it, STILL. I mean, STILL. You would swear they were responsible.)

Not sure where this is gonna end up for me overall tbh.

Himu · « **Reply #156 on:** October 14, 2014, 03:43:33 AM »

I'm fine with the less action thing. Seems to be RE4 x silent Hill and Silent Hill was never about the action. Then again, SH gives you options. You can totally fight them or just right the fuck away. Old RE is similar. But this doesn't sound like the game giving you a choice.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #157 on:** October 14, 2014, 08:40:38 AM »

Despite all Bethesda's talk about 4GB of VRAM, a Geforce 750ti and an Intel i5 are plenty enough to run this smoothly. Compare that to Dead Rising 3, which had significantly lower recommended specs, and runs like absolute garbage no matter how much you turn things down.

sarslip · « **Reply #158 on:** October 14, 2014, 09:07:36 AM »

from Sterling's review

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It's bad enough that Bethesda even knows it. Alongside my review copy of the game was a note asking that reviewers play on the Casual difficulty setting, not the standard Survival setting (I went with the standard, by the way). Not only that, but each copy came with a sealed envelope containing advice and obscure tips for every single level of the game.

he put them on extreme blast

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #159 on:** October 14, 2014, 10:47:47 AM »

Picked this up, better be good yo

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #160 on:** October 14, 2014, 11:56:53 AM »

Ima play this shit on casual cause its prob scary enough

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #161 on:** October 14, 2014, 12:12:59 PM »

My initial impression is that the PC version is a technical nightmare.

First strike was when I couldn't remap the movement keys to the 4 arrow keys next to the keypad. Whenever a game does that its generally a sign that they didn't give a fuck about that version because it makes it completely unplayable for left handed people. So switched to gamepad.

The black bars are annoying and slightly headache inducing and the force aspect ratio console command doesn't solve the issue. And there is something about the framerate whether its 30 or unlocked 60 even when its steady that makes it feel much lower.

All that aside, I'll post actual gameplay impressions later.

cool breeze · « **Reply #162 on:** October 14, 2014, 01:48:07 PM »

yeah, I watched the giantbomb quicklook on my monitor (16:10) and when I get around to this, if there's no fix from the community, I'll play with gamepad on my tv. you can "disable" black bars on PC but it's vert-, meaning it zooms in and crops out the sides leaving you with a narrow fov.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #163 on:** October 14, 2014, 02:27:22 PM »

Quote from: Human Snorenado on October 14, 2014, 03:19:37 AM

I'm on chapter 3. This game seems like it feels bad that RE4 let you engage in, you know, action and for the early part of it seems to be giving you a preponderance of, "haw haw, here's this crazy, scary, gross situation that you can't get out of through direct conflict!" Of course, this game does stealth as well as any game ever (read: tolerably at best, but not something you want to base a whole game around) so that sort of thing is wearing thin... and it's still early in the game. I hope that there are opportunities for more action as the game progresses; if not this will NOT be a game I enjoy overall.

The atmosphere is nailed, though. They got that right. Shit is downright creepy from the get go basically.

Graphics- so, this game is not the prettiest thing ever to look at. And my pc is a damn sight more powerful than either of the "next gen" home consoles, so yeah... lighting/shadows etc is done well and contributes to the mood in a positive manner. Pretty much everything else is kind of an eyesore to look at (not a compliment) and the game has pretty bad anti-aliasing issues. (Even though Bethesda just published it, STILL. I mean, STILL. You would swear they were responsible.)

Not sure where this is gonna end up for me overall tbh.

I played for an hour or so into the game and I would agree with most of this.

The atmosphere and tone is great but so far I've spent a lot of time crouched and walking around which isn't the most fun thing in the world. I mean the stealth stuff here isn't the deepest so its not the most enjoyable thing.

We'll see how the pacing changes as we go along. There are other small quibbles that I have but I'll save those for if/when I beat the game to mention them.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #164 on:** October 14, 2014, 02:35:05 PM »

There's more combat in Chapters 3 and 4, but I think it says a lot that when I had to fight the boss in Chapter 3, my first inclination was to try to trick him into destroying the obstacle that was blocking my progress rather than, you know, try to kill him.

Game is fun but I'm pretty sure my review score is gonna be "I wish I had paid $20 less for this, still worth playing tho"

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #165 on:** October 14, 2014, 03:38:14 PM »

Wow! It comes with a full colored manual. That Bethesda money!

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #166 on:** October 14, 2014, 03:56:56 PM »

streaming

http://www.twitch.tv/rahxephon91

doctavius bonbon · « **Reply #167 on:** October 14, 2014, 04:08:12 PM »

I need to do some console command magic because this letterboxing on a 24" monitor is fucking atrocious, despite whatever the developer intended.

edit: or maybe i'll just deal with it.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #168 on:** October 14, 2014, 04:09:06 PM »

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on October 14, 2014, 03:56:56 PM

streaming

http://www.twitch.tv/rahxephon91

Just saw you die.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #169 on:** October 14, 2014, 04:25:09 PM »

Quote from: doctavius bonbon on October 14, 2014, 04:08:12 PM

edit: or maybe i'll just deal with it.

That should be the tagline for this generation of gaming.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #170 on:** October 14, 2014, 04:40:42 PM »

Just played the intro , pretty cool.

Animations are janky and budget, atmosphere is there.

Cant wait to see more.

Letterboxing is weird, makes it feel more claustrophobic but also annoying.

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on October 14, 2014, 03:38:14 PM

Wow! It comes with a full colored manual. That Bethesda money!

Wut? Where?

I got like 3 pages :/

Tasty · « **Reply #171 on:** October 14, 2014, 06:37:48 PM »

Just hooked up my new PS3 and it's DLing The Evil Within now. Mostly painless process.

Using my Wii U's HDMI cable right now since Sony's too cheap to include one with the system. A lot of the UI text seems weirdly aliased, too. Especially the keyboard.

demi · « **Reply #172 on:** October 14, 2014, 07:25:50 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on October 14, 2014, 06:37:48 PM

Just hooked up my new PS3 and it's DLing The Evil Within now. Mostly painless process.

Using my Wii U's HDMI cable right now since Sony's too cheap to include one with the system. A lot of the UI text seems weirdly aliased, too. Especially the keyboard.

I got an HDMI cable with mine... maybe they took it out for the super slim.

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #173 on:** October 14, 2014, 07:42:07 PM »

I have a super slim and I don't remember it coming with an hdmi cable either.

Positive Touch · « **Reply #174 on:** October 14, 2014, 07:59:41 PM »

Quote from: Tasty Meat on October 14, 2014, 06:37:48 PM

Just hooked up my new PS3 and it's DLing The Evil Within now. Mostly painless process.

Using my Wii U's HDMI cable right now since Sony's too cheap to include one with the system. A lot of the UI text seems weirdly aliased, too. Especially the keyboard.

did you bump the resolution all the way up in the settings menu?

Tasty · « **Reply #175 on:** October 14, 2014, 08:01:34 PM »

I think it auto-adjusted. TV says it's a 1080p feed.

Rahxephon91 · « **Reply #176 on:** October 14, 2014, 08:05:25 PM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on October 14, 2014, 04:40:42 PM

Just played the intro , pretty cool.

Animations are janky and budget, atmosphere is there.

Cant wait to see more.

Letterboxing is weird, makes it feel more claustrophobic but also annoying.

Quote from: Rahxephon91 on October 14, 2014, 03:38:14 PM
Wow! It comes with a full colored manual. That Bethesda money!

Wut? Where?

I got like 3 pages :/

Yep, a good old manual complete with character profiles. That was a surprise.
Crappy picture.
http://imgur.com/AMXXckV

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #177 on:** October 14, 2014, 08:21:58 PM »

Unlocking the framerate on the PC version and other cheats:

http://www.incgamers.com/2014/10/how-to-unlock-the-evil-withins-framerate-and-cheat

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #178 on:** October 14, 2014, 09:05:13 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on October 14, 2014, 08:21:58 PM

Unlocking the framerate on the PC version and other cheats:

http://www.incgamers.com/2014/10/how-to-unlock-the-evil-withins-framerate-and-cheat

Cool, the only thing I think I'll bother to fuck with is the aspect ratio.

Tasty · « **Reply #179 on:** October 14, 2014, 09:12:18 PM »

Bought the season pass.

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WTF is a season pass?

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Author Topic: The Evil Within (dev. Tango Gameworks) (Read 50096 times)