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fistfulofmetal · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2013, 07:39:39 AM »

Knack looks the same beyond different lighting... also the "bullshot" screens are blurry.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #2 on:** September 10, 2013, 07:50:56 AM »

Looks same!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #3 on:** September 10, 2013, 08:05:09 AM »

Quote from: fistfulofmetal on September 10, 2013, 07:39:39 AM

also the "bullshot" screens are blurry.

The blurriness made it look more cinematic!

archnemesis · « **Reply #4 on:** September 10, 2013, 09:20:06 AM »

The bullshot screens look worse.

mjemirzian · « **Reply #5 on:** September 10, 2013, 09:31:23 AM »

So.. are either of these games any good?

archnemesis · « **Reply #6 on:** September 10, 2013, 11:33:03 AM »

Deep Down looks like it could be fun. It's Demon's Souls MMO. Knack is probably decent if you're into Ratchet & Clank.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #7 on:** September 10, 2013, 12:38:36 PM »

Wow great thread Borys.

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #8 on:** September 10, 2013, 12:57:51 PM »

Not seeing much aside from lighting and post effects. Sorry but you'll never take the crown from Manabyte

demi · « **Reply #9 on:** September 10, 2013, 12:59:57 PM »

Looks like could be done on PS3

Bebpo · « **Reply #10 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:06:35 PM »

Reality looks pretty freaking good in all the pics/vids you posted Borys...

Himu · « **Reply #11 on:** September 10, 2013, 01:52:36 PM »

nudemacusers · « **Reply #12 on:** September 10, 2013, 02:45:07 PM »

hopefully they have a second hidden gpu somewhere on the thing

Takao · « **Reply #13 on:** September 10, 2013, 03:36:09 PM »

non-bullshot knack looks better than the supposed bullshot one

MCD · « **Reply #14 on:** September 10, 2013, 03:38:55 PM »

Good going, Cerny!

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #15 on:** September 10, 2013, 03:48:19 PM »

just to add my voice to the choir: the real shots look better than the bullshots

if you want the bullshot experience you can spread vaseline all over your TV screen I guess

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #16 on:** September 10, 2013, 03:50:33 PM »

The bullshots look like they're using N64 anti-aliasing.

Howard Alan Treesong · « **Reply #17 on:** September 10, 2013, 03:52:18 PM »

Quote from: Joe Molotov on September 10, 2013, 03:50:33 PM

The bullshots look like they're using N64 anti-aliasing.

that's what I said.

Rufus · « **Reply #18 on:** September 11, 2013, 05:40:24 AM »

It's advertising, made at various stages of production. We're not going to get any decent footage until close to release and when we do whatever visual qualities they do have are going to get a video compression downgrade.

radioheadrule83 · « **Reply #19 on:** September 11, 2013, 06:59:31 AM »

I think Knack looks heaps better in the reality shots

I'm with Borys on that one... sick of reveals and trailers that don't show any actual gameplay. I expect a gameplay camera and maybe even a HUD. If you're just showing me cross fades of dragons and unrealistically playable camera angles, I don't give a shit.

It's advertising, sure, but I just find it insulting. And embarrassing when people drool over it.

chronovore · « **Reply #20 on:** September 11, 2013, 09:03:18 AM »

Meh.

YES, BORYS. IT'S NOT REAL.

Games go through changes to the gameplay design, animation, framerate tuning, UI elements, camera behavior, etc. right up until they're submitted to the publisher. These "bullshots" and fauxtage are frequently the results of internally commissioned "target image quality" or otherwise inspirational / aspirational renders.

If it's good enough to show the dev team and publishers where they're expecting to end up, and getting them excited about it, hopefully it's good enough for the consumers too.

On the other hand, we've seen nothing but entitled contempt and loudmouthed ignorance whenever a dev shows their actual WIP to the world outside, which can result in marketing/sales/publisher panic, which can sometimes result in drastic and catastrophic changes to the game, simply because a bunch of anonymous Internet dimwits (who were likely to wait for the $20 price drop) got their rage boners in a line and decided to march.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #21 on:** September 13, 2013, 03:30:24 AM »

you know you will buy it anyway Borys

Rufus · « **Reply #22 on:** September 13, 2013, 03:40:09 AM »

They didn't promise shit.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #23 on:** September 13, 2013, 03:41:16 AM »

Also this looks hot imho

mjemirzian · « **Reply #24 on:** September 13, 2013, 04:05:40 AM »

It's not bullshots anymore, it's bulltrailers.

Vertigo · « **Reply #25 on:** September 13, 2013, 04:18:52 AM »

I prefer the bullshots of Knack it has that 'warmth' to it the reality looks sterile and 'cold'.

maxy · « **Reply #26 on:** September 13, 2013, 04:59:26 AM »

Cerny Budget GPU & CPU

The Sceneman · « **Reply #27 on:** September 14, 2013, 08:23:20 AM »

Deep Down looks fantastic!

Damian79 · « **Reply #28 on:** September 16, 2013, 01:11:31 AM »

Yeah this doesn't look good to me and it is 30fps.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #29 on:** September 16, 2013, 03:27:23 AM »

Damian arent you a Wii U gamer?

Damian79 · « **Reply #30 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:08:44 AM »

Nope. But i have 2 3ds, a ps3, and a psp. So it is a little hyporcritical. But i go where the games are.

archnemesis · « **Reply #31 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:13:34 AM »

That's a badly compressed image. Even the text is low quality. Driveclub's graphics isn't blowing me away, but it does improve some things. The environments are much more detailed compared to games like Gran Turismo 5/6 and it has nice lighting and reflections.

archnemesis · « **Reply #32 on:** September 16, 2013, 07:41:37 AM »

Absolutely. I prefer racers to be at a stable 60 FPS.

cool breeze · « **Reply #33 on:** September 16, 2013, 12:27:11 PM »

yeah, it's not particularly striking. Driveclub, Forza, and that Need for Speed game all look good but it's hard to make that jump with car games. Driveclub was most impressive in the latest video and I think it's more to do with the aesthetic sensibilities than rah-rah next gen tech. Same reason why I prefer PGR3/4's look to Gran Turismo, Forza, or other betterer contemporary racers; Bizarre knew how to make a classy looking car game.

headwalk · « **Reply #34 on:** September 16, 2013, 02:20:33 PM »

Quote from: mojovonio on September 16, 2013, 12:32:47 PM

To me, mind you i haven't played many recent driving games, GT is still the only series that got the visuals right and it all comes down to lighting. looking at that video, it looks great, but it still looks like video game lighting.

the main difference between the old and new footage is the low light. CGI always looks better at night, what with all the crushed blacks smudging out any imperfections and high contrast specular lighting.

if was on sony's fauxtage marketing team, i'd get ensure all footage was taken at night. GIF hounds don't give a shit about why it looks good as long as they can spam it in a console war thread.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #35 on:** September 16, 2013, 04:17:07 PM »

I think Wipeout is the only racer last gen to WOW me.

I have to say the new Mario Kart on Wii U looks nice too, but that's purely the design.

duckman2000 · « **Reply #36 on:** September 16, 2013, 04:47:56 PM »

Motorstorm was pretty sick in some places. Burnout would have wowed if Criterion hadn't been so bloody incredible on Xbox. But those games all have in common that they weren't really pushing realism as the biggest selling feature. Burnout lathered on the fx which is the right way to go with videogame racers since you lose so much real feedback.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #37 on:** September 16, 2013, 05:08:43 PM »

Oh yeah forgot about Motorstorm, that was cool too

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #38 on:** September 18, 2013, 08:23:14 AM »

Uh...can you not see that the second set of images is compressed to hell and back?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #39 on:** September 18, 2013, 08:25:58 AM »

Also the second batch is like 4 times the size.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #40 on:** September 18, 2013, 08:32:02 AM »

And not animated.

Damian79 · « **Reply #41 on:** September 18, 2013, 08:37:48 AM »

Still though, you can see the detail is drastically reduced.

Rufus · « **Reply #42 on:** September 18, 2013, 08:58:57 AM »

Surprised you still care, to be honest. This is what happens when you get attached to bullshit.

Brehvolution · « **Reply #43 on:** September 18, 2013, 12:55:29 PM »

Looks like the RAM is too fast for the graphics chip.

Steve Contra · « **Reply #44 on:** September 18, 2013, 01:02:16 PM »

Borys continues to make this thread a winner. Really looking forward to seeing what he does with it when the games are actually out.

chronovore · « **Reply #45 on:** September 18, 2013, 08:08:57 PM »

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #46 on:** September 19, 2013, 04:17:41 AM »

Where are the TGS vids?

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #47 on:** September 19, 2013, 05:01:38 AM »

It did?

archnemesis · « **Reply #48 on:** September 19, 2013, 05:07:29 AM »

Quote from: Premium Lager on September 19, 2013, 04:17:41 AM

Where are the TGS vids?

http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_deep_down_tgs_showfloor_gameplay_60_fps_-30824_en.html

Download the ~800 MB mp4 file.

Cerveza mas fina · « **Reply #49 on:** September 19, 2013, 06:15:06 AM »

I do think though that Souls games did much better in the EU then Dogma

Souls is such a euro game, esp on PC.

demi · « **Reply #50 on:** September 19, 2013, 09:21:14 AM »

Dragon's Dogma > Souls

Raban · « **Reply #51 on:** September 19, 2013, 12:17:31 PM »

Quote from: Oscar the Grouch on September 19, 2013, 05:22:47 AM

Quote from: Premium Lager on September 19, 2013, 05:01:38 AM
It did?

well, not outsold the living fuck, but it did outsell them both handily, at least with the numbers available.

demon's souls sold about 650k~ between NA and JP, with 2/3 of that being in NA
dark souls sold about 700k~ between NA and JP, about half and half
dragon's dogma sold about 800k~ between NA and JP, with 2/3 of that being in JP, plus another few hundred k of the expansion.

souls is a big critical/fan success, and demon's was a huge sales success for a company atlus's size, and they sell very well for what they are, to be sure. but, like uncharted, people seem to think that they sell a hell of a lot better than they actually do. i can pretty much guarantee capcom wasn't sitting their rubbing there hands together at the prospects of selling seven hundred k.... they can do that pretty much in their sleep.

edit: you saw nooooooo typos

Could've sworn Dark Souls cracked 2m units earlier this year. Are you talking about NA and JP only?

archnemesis · « **Reply #52 on:** September 19, 2013, 12:20:38 PM »

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-04-12-dark-souls-has-sold-over-2-3-million-units

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #53 on:** September 19, 2013, 12:52:12 PM »

None of this shit is gonna look "amazing," really. It's gonna look like what it is, a game running on a upper-end mid-range GPU.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #54 on:** September 21, 2013, 12:58:02 AM »

Capcom

Sho Nuff · « **Reply #55 on:** September 21, 2013, 02:40:53 AM »

Well, I guess that's that

Rufus · « **Reply #56 on:** September 21, 2013, 02:49:18 AM »

Well.

Now there's something to cry about, Borys.

brob · « **Reply #57 on:** September 21, 2013, 03:59:07 AM »

MCD · « **Reply #58 on:** September 21, 2013, 04:12:58 AM »

No wonder MS passed this turd.

Rufus · « **Reply #59 on:** September 21, 2013, 04:24:25 AM »

Quote from: MCD on September 21, 2013, 04:12:58 AM

No wonder MS passed this turd.

Killer Instinct?

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Author Topic: Game (Read 15701 times)

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