Dragon Quest 1 - 8 coming to smartphones

[Yulwei]

Oh and your bit about the dungeons is amusing since DQ dungeons of old were almost all empty and made up of the same few color-swapped tiles. If you want to talk about good old school console rpg dungeon design then lets talk Lufia 2 

Are you a Magus alt?

lol

[Himu]

1 is definitely a low-tier DQ for me, but DQ1 still has...novelty in its simplicity. I like it. But I don't love it. DQ2 potentially has all the makings of a classic but is highly flawed. I still enjoy the re-releases SNES and GBC versions a lot more than DQ1 though. DQ3 is really when the series gets into something special, and this continues onward with 4 and especially 5.

I can see why you'd think the series peaked at 5, however. 6 and 7 are basically reiterations of earlier ideas (namely DQ3 and CT). That being said, 7, I think has all of the best attributes of Chrono Trigger more so than DQ6. At its best, it's certainly better written than CT, and I think it explores the sense of time travel better than CT did. The main problem with 7 is its bloat, which CT simply does not experience.

In regards to VIII and IX, I really love both, though I'd place IX as a mid-tier game, and VIII as a low-tier game. Both are easily above 1 and 2, however. Though 2 has more memorable gameplay than 8.

It's pretty clear that they wanted to do something different with 9, and I can't blame them. I'm looking forward to 11 to see what they've got planned, but I'm more worried about Sugiyama than anything else.

[magus]

Oh and your bit about the dungeons is amusing since DQ dungeons of old were almost all empty and made up of the same few color-swapped tiles. If you want to talk about good old school console rpg dungeon design then lets talk Lufia 2 

Are you a Magus alt?

I can't wait to play dress-up with Lightning 

i would have never said that

but i do agree on DQ being a lame rpg series

[Diunx]

Also DQ9 has the best graphics on the Nintendo ds. It's a beautiful game considering its limitations.

[Himu]

I'm not really interested in arguing. It's what I think. Nothing can change that.

[Himu]

That does sound delicious.

[Sho Nuff]

Sugiyama needs to go away, he makes jammin tunes but his political views make him a walking piece of feces

[Himu]

Sugiyama is old. He will go away sooner than you think.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

When Sugiyama dies, he gets to go to the special Hell for extra terrible people.

[Tasty]

What's the deal with this Sugi chap?

[Himu]

I am ignorant of Sugiyama's politics? All I know is that when Uematsu did the Opera Scene in FFVI, Sugiyama listened to the soundtrack and sent Uematsu some call or something and he was like WHY DIDNT YOU CALL ME FOR ADVICE WHEN YOU WERE DOING OPERA? But I don't know anything about his politics.

Does Sugiyama subscribe to the idea of Japanese superiority?

[Joe Molotov]

noted ds graphics experts himuro and diunx having it out in the field of combat

Which one gave you the least eye cancer?

[Joe Molotov]

Sugiyama is a Rape of Nanking denier.

[Himu]

Ugggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Not just a "denier" - he's one of the leaders of the denial movement. He's taken out full page ads in Yomiuri Shimbun denying, donates to several militant right-wing political groups, fronts at least one of them, etc.

It's like saying Orson Scott Card "does't think gay people should get married" - well, yes, that's one way of putting it.

http://www.destructoid.com/blogs/Tascar/koichi-sugiyama-my-love-hate-relationship-with-the-quot-big-boss-of-game-music-quot--178835.phtml

[Steve Contra]

 

[Himu]

Oh well. I will take solace in that Sugiyama is just another human being. It isn't my place to judge. If he wants to be a fool and deny such methods of human brutality, let him. He won't be any happier despite his riches or his transgressions. Still, it is pretty shocking to find out about.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

Actually, I had forgotten that he later took out a full page ad in ENGLISH in the WASHINGTON POST denying the Rape of Nanking ever happened or that comfort women ever existed.

http://kotaku.com/5901590/the-sad-story-of-a-japanese-gaming-legend-who-pretends-war-crimes-never-happened

So, he's denying WWII war crimes to AMERICANS DIRECTLY which is some pretty huge denial cojones.

[Himu]

[Howard Alan Treesong]

I am trying to track down the actual letter, as I've never seen it. Here's an article he wrote later about the paid advertisement: http://studyofenglish.wordpress.com/2007/09/20/paid-advertisement-concerning-%E2%80%9Ccomfort-women%E2%80%9D-run-in-the-washington-post/

[Howard Alan Treesong]

This list of signatories shows he was one of the 5 authors of the advertisement ("The Facts") with Japanese Diet members as signatories, not authors: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_House_of_Representatives_House_Resolution_121

More info about the signatories and committees involved: http://www.jiaponline.org/documents/Jun14AdALLSignatoriesLIST.pdf

Seriously, dude's in deep.

[Howard Alan Treesong]

found it. hidden due to size.

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[Himu]

Why does he deny it? He was 7-8 when it occurred. Was his father one of the men who participated?

[Steve Contra]

Because he's a fucking racist, nationalist asshole

[Rahxephon91]

DQ5 is the family generational one right? That sounds pretty good, I think I'd like that to be the first one I play. It's on the DS right?

[magus]

DQ5 is the family generational one right? That sounds pretty good, I think I'd like that to be the first one I play. It's on the DS right?

yes and yes

or you could play the original snes fantranslated

or the ps2 remake fantranslated (which is different and feature's actual 3D graphics)

[Positive Touch]

i dont think its much of a stretch to say it prolly goes on in most major wars. what was the name of that huge prison the us ran in iraq? there was word that lots of that was going on over there, but from what i'd heard the pics and details were only shown to congress and not leaked to the media.

[Himu]

Why does he deny it? He was 7-8 when it occurred. Was his father one of the men who participated?

uh, he was at exactly the right age to have his worldview warped by people around him.  it's disgustingly common for people his age to deny the "comfort women" (can we just call them what they were, sex slaves?) situation.  which is not to say it's excusable behaviour at all, it's fucking reprehensible, but what worries me more is when younger guys like the mayor of osaka toru hashimoto join in on the chorus. 

the whole military sex slave thing is just awful as fuck.  when i was digging around about japan's history on that, i found out koreans and americans did it too during the korean war and stuff.  makes me wonder if that shit still goes on today on the sly.

Makes a lot of sense and it makes me sad.

[Himu]

They still haven't fixed the slow battles. Unless they allow first person mode or allow a DQ9 battle speed, I won't be getting DQ8 mobile. If a battle turn lasts an average of 20-30 seconds again, I'm not getting it. Then again the heros attack was fast as hell. Maybe they have it on default speed.

I'm more interested in DQ7.

[Himu]

Yup. That first turn to battle took over 20 seconds.

Looks great!

Sadly I have no incentives to re-play the game again (it is quite long). I've beaten all mainline DQ games (1-9) and really, really, really do not like the idea of replaying those games again from scratch.

Oscar, your insight on where DQ11 will end up? 3DS is a lock, no?

To be fair borys, until 7, the average clock for a dq game is like 25-30 hours.

[demi]

What device is that? Looked kind of sluggish. I am sure it will be ironed out, though. All square enix games on iOS have been rock solid. They even got FFT to run on my iPod, and FF4 DS.

[archnemesis]

The DS version of DQ6 didn't feel that long. Did they cut anything from it?

[Himu]

Oh wow. Dq6 took me like 40. Thanks for the correction.

[AdmiralViscen]

Does this increase or decrease the likelihood of DQ7 3DS USA

[Himu]

That's what I want to know.

[Positive Touch]

I will sacrifice a virgin ninthing to get dq7 3ds to the US if that's what it takes

[Steve Contra]

I will sacrifice a virgin ninthing to get dq7 3ds to the US if that's what it takes

No need to repeat yourself