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[Borys]

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[Himu]

Why the fuck do people want another Fallout RPG so soon after NV? I want a new IP from Bethesda. Another post apocalyptic RPG with 40's jazz which I have experienced four times now. I really wanted Bethesda to do a modern setting RPG.

[Human Snorenado]

Why the fuck do people want another Fallout RPG so soon after NV? I want a new IP from Bethesda. Another post apocalyptic RPG with 30's jazz. I really wanted Bethesda to do a modern setting RPG.

...NV released in October 2010.  By the time 4 comes out, it will likely have been a four year gap.  So, uh, wtf are you talking about?  This isn't like CoD or whatever.

[Himu]

Sure but fallout 3 was 2008. I am just post apocalyptic'd out. I'm tired of Fallout and that setting.

[Himu]

And then they'll make a new TES after Fallout 4. PLEASE work on a new IP.

[Human Snorenado]

Sure but fallout 3 was 2008. I am just post apocalyptic'd out. I'm tired of Fallout and that setting.

Don't you own every Sims expansion ever made?   

[maxy]

Console industry is full of surprises.

What's next,Far Cry 4?

[Himu]

No I don't. And The Sims is the only game of that type in town. Meanwhile there are whole slew of settings and different franchises Bethesda could work with. I was really hoping for someone to start next gen out by expanding upon last gens wrpgs by making a full fledged open world RPG that takes place in a modern setting. I am just so bored with fantasy and post apacalyptic. Hell, I'd settle for a game in space. ANYTHING BUT MORE FALLOUT.

[Himu]

You read my post wrong. I am looking forward to TES VI. I am however not looking forward to THE SAME FRANCHISES ad naseum. What new could possibly be said or added to Fallout lore?

[Human Snorenado]

You read my post wrong. I am looking forward to TES VI. I am however not looking forward to THE SAME FRANCHISES ad naseum. What new could possibly be said or added to Fallout lore?

Gee, I dunno.  They've had games set in the west of the US and DC.  It's not like there's anywhere else in the country they could explore or anything.

[Himu]

It'd be a new place but with very similar themes. There isnt much you can do to make a post apocalyptic setting of a post nuclear America refreshing. All Fallout games share this commonality and we have seen it four times now.  More if you include Tactics which I havent played. Let it go. It is now boring.

[Himu]

I agree with you. I mean it could be cool if they had the game set somewhere else in the postapocalyptic world like China, India, Europe, or Africa, but this is Bethesda and the majority of people who buy and develop Fallout are provincial cacs so it is what it is.

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Yeah I'd be interested if it isn't in America. But of course it will be and it will explore the same themes and stories we've heard a billion times now.

Let me guess.

The game will look like this.



TES has the advantage of being a large world full of lore. Sky rim looks nothing like Morrowind and  each area has its own history. But Fallout will ALWAYS look like this picture.

[Great Rumbler]

I'll stop trolling your Tex Mex thread if you leave Fallout alone, Himu.

[Himu]

I would geek the fuck out if that were true. Water settings

[Great Rumbler]

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But Fallout will ALWAYS look like this picture.

And if it didn't, I'd be pretty upset. Hopefully Bethesda decides to release a new Fallout game every year, each with even less color than the last, just to troll you.

[Himu]

That'd be the fast track to Fallout DYING so bring it.

[cool breeze]

I bet this will have multiplayer of some kind.  Either something passive like Dark Souls/Journey or full on bro-op.

they have tons of freedom on where to set it to make it feel different.  Fallout 3 and NV were set around the same time, which isn't that far after Fallout 2.  Jump some time into the future, maybe there's some progress; people rebuilding and living in patched up cities.  Or crib from Judge Dredd and have the megacities and the cursed earth.

[Great Rumbler]

That'd be the fast track to Fallout DYING so bring it.

[cool breeze]

Oh man, can't wait for TESVI, the Summerset Isles in next gen....

Maybe they'll have a sailing element like in Wind Waker (but less homo/terrible)

like this:
http://abload.de/img/untitledhh-12f8k1y.gif

polish excellence 

[Himu]

IS THAT THE WITCHER 3? Because fuck!!! . WATER!

[Himu]

I bet this will have multiplayer of some kind.  Either something passive like Dark Souls/Journey or full on bro-op.

they have tons of freedom on where to set it to make it feel different.  Fallout 3 and NV were set around the same time, which isn't that far after Fallout 2.  Jump some time into the future, maybe there's some progress; people rebuilding and living in patched up cities.  Or crib from Judge Dredd and have the megacities and the cursed earth.

Didn't they give a hint that Three Dog is returning in 4 before?

[Human Snorenado]

Witcher 3 is gonna be SO TITS. SO TITS, BREHS.

It will almost make up for Borys and Kosma.

But not really.

[Himu]

I have lost every ounce in me that was interested in Assassins Creed 4 after that pic.

[Himu]

I wish CDP would put Witcher 2 on ps4

[meni stronk]

I agree Fallout desperately needs a new setting. still hyped though.

of the two series I'm more worn out on Elder Scrolls. TES can fuck off forever until the terrible combat gets a revamp. I would even be OK with a fast-forward-this-trash-so-I-can-go-back-to-exploring button like VATS

[Himu]

Fallout 4 is rumored to be in Boston.

[Great Rumbler]

The point of playing Bethesda games is not to interact with people. It gives you your own little mmo sandbox to play around with without the usual dregs of humanity (see Bore MMO threads) to deal with.

Please understand.

That's one of the things I like most about those games. No multiplayer angle, just pure singleplayer sandboxing.

[Himu]

I'm fine with including Dark/Demon's Souls notes for quests and tips. It isn't like you have to interact with anyone, and it helps make the game feel more alive. But always, let's be purists and keep doing the fucking shit over and over.

[Great Rumbler]

But always, let's be purists and keep doing the fucking shit over and over.

Sounds good to me.

[Steve Contra]

Hopefully Bethesda isn't making it

NV

F:3   

[Great Rumbler]

I'm fine with including Dark/Demon's Souls notes for quests and tips. It isn't like you have to interact with anyone, and it helps make the game feel more alive. But always, let's be purists and keep doing the fucking shit over and over.

Well, one of the reasons I like Skyrim and Fallout is the persistent changes that I and the AI make to the environment staying around for a long time.

I don't really want any of these filthpeople interacting with my virtual world , plus how would it impact mods?

I'm all for change, but adding any component of multiplayer to these games is a mistake and encroaches on part of the reason why they are different and good.

EXACTLY. If you want to go play an MMO, go play an MMO. Don't try to take a proven system with tons of fans and guaranteed success and then pee all over it by trying to follow after the latest trend.

I know exactly what I'm getting when I buy a Fallout or mainline Elder Scrolls game, and it's exactly what I want.

[Himu]

I don't think anyone suggested an mmo.

[Great Rumbler]

I don't think anyone suggested an mmo.

Not in this thread, at least not yet, but it has been.

But that doesn't change the fact that the latest trend is that every major game just has to have multiplayer components wedged in wherever possible. If it's totally optional and completely avoidable, then fine, whatever, but I don't want any kind of multiplayer whatsoever forced on me in a Bethesda RPG.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

Skyrim was the first Bethesda RPG that was playable and functional.  Will Fallout 4 be even more playable or will it go back to the Bethesda formula of bloated, buggy, near-unplayable messes?

I'm on pins and needles waiting to find out.

[Himu]

Hmmm.

Seems George Ziets agrees with me. I like his idea for a new Fallout.

The downside of Fallout? Well… true to its opening monologue, Fallout never changes. A century or two after the bombs fell, people are still scavenging for junk in ruined supermarkets, living in bombed-out shells of buildings, and most of the world still looks like a dull gray wasteland. The survival game isn’t all that compelling to me anymore.

What I do find interesting are all the tribes and factions – Great Khans, Twisted Hairs, New Canaanites. Where did they come from, how do they survive, how do they relate to one another?

So if I could design another Fallout game… I might not design a traditional RPG at all. Instead, think of a strategy-RPG hybrid like King of Dragon Pass – set in the Fallout universe. You’re placed in the role of the tribe’s leaders, responsible for establishing a home base, keeping your people safe and fed, exploring the surrounding wasteland, and managing relations with other tribes and factions.

You’d mold the future of your tribe by plundering knowledge from Vaults and ruins and deciding whether to utilize that knowledge/technology or keep it hidden from your people. Revealing old world secrets would always have consequences, both positive (e.g., economic or military benefits) and negative (e.g., jealousy or fear from your neighbors). Unearthing stories from the old world might unlock opportunities to change the organization and personality of your tribe - think of how old-world stories opened possibilities for Caesar or the Three Families. You’d also choose how to feed and supply your people - by looting ruins, raiding other tribes, or trying to rediscover secrets of agriculture and animal husbandry from the Vaults. Ultimately, you’d have to decide how to survive in the face of external threats. Would you build a slave empire like Caesar, establish a democratic federation of tribes, or just turn to cannibalism and prey on your neighbors? It may or may not have mass market appeal… but I’d play that game.

[Human Snorenado]

Frankly, I'm ok with stuff that I like iterating rather than innovating.  You're obviously coming at it from a different angle, but I'm sure there are series where you just want them to hit all the right notes and appreciate new content rather than try to reinvent the wheel.

All this is meant to say: QUIT ADVOCATING FUCKING UP MY FALLOUT, YOU WHORE.

[Himu]

Well, even with games like SMT where the game traditionally takes place in post apocalyptic demon infested Tokyo, they manage to switch it up. Hey, let's make this one in Antarctica. Or hey, let's make it so that it has Tokyo, but you don't get to Tokyo for like 10 in-game hours to make its introduction have more impact. Let's make a spin off franchise about demons fighting their way into a normal Earth as we know it - Persona - or let's make one where it's in a cyberpunk setting - Soul Hackers? Don't get me wrong; I love Fallout - that's why I care so much. But I fail to see what would be enticing to have another wasteland, handled in the same manner, for the third time five-six years. I'm coming from this as a fan of the series and nothing more. Then again, I've always been the type who gets bored when developers keep doing the same things and that's usually when I abandon them. I said nothing of innovation. However, I do embrace creativity.

That said, out of my love for Bethesda - the only wrpg studio I really even like aside from CPR - and Fallout, I'll be getting Fallout 4. So I'm definitely a part of the problem.

I hope to fuck this isn't being made by Obzzzidian.

[Great Rumbler]

It's cool that you've got the inside track on what Bethesda is going to do with Fallout 4.

[Himu]

Rumbler, you really think it'll be all that different, especially with the Three Dog hype, as well as the setting being rumored as taking place in Boston - oh hey, remember how we set the last game in one of the historical founding NE USA cities to tell a story of America's downfall? Let's put it in BOSTON this time! Which TOTALLY won't somehow fall into a similar area. Even if it's not in a New England city, what could they possibly do to make the setting refreshing if it's in America? Texas? Oh hey, New Vegas was already full of desert, let's do that again. The one place I'd settle for in USA again is Georgia for some good ol' Southern Gothic. Imagine the swamps, full of radiation that you have to trek through.

[Raban]

Himu is sperging this hard over a trademark filing. I can't imagine what'll happen when we actually know something about this game. I'm gonna need to take a vacation from this board

[fistfulofmetal]

is himomo just being hormonal?

[Himu]

Of course I'm talking about this because a trademark filing - that's all we have to go on! And in actuality, wanting the same thing over and over via routine WITHOUT CHANGING THINGS is a common symptom of aspergers.

[Raban]

...and you sure as hell are sticking to your routine of making molehills into mountains

[fistfulofmetal]

...and you sure as hell are sticking to your routine of making molehills into mountains

a funny euphemism for his current transition. 

[Himu]

I don't see how it is a molehill. I am killing time while watching YouTube videos. I am bored out of my skull. What do you want us to discuss? Oh, I'm so excited for Fallout 4? This isn't gaf. Fuck that. I'm gonna bitch that Fallout 4 has the potential of being g redundant and boring because at least that's fun. But then, you go and call discussion for the sake of discussion sperging out. I'm not even mad about this. I just want something to talk about. Okay then, what should we talk about if not Fallout 4 being redundant?

[Great Rumbler]

Let's talk about how awesome Fallout 4 will be, sounds more interesting than griping about whatever.

[Positive Touch]

why the shit would you assume fallout 4 is gonna be a retread? fo3 was nothing like 1&2, and the only reason new Vegas was so similar is because it was a quick cash-in. no reason to assume 4 is gonna be 3 with more quests.

and iirc Boston was already in fo3

[fistfulofmetal]

you're thinking of Pittsburgh

[Positive Touch]

oh yeah

[Great Rumbler]

Fallout 3's expansions had:

-A backwoods swamp
-Alaskan tundra
-A massive industrial complex
-An alien space ship

But Himu's got the inside track, you guys, Fallout 4 is totally going to be just another desert exactly like Fallout 3 had.

[mjemirzian]

One, and only one question.

Is it still based on Gamebryo?

Thank you.

[Human Snorenado]

One, and only one question.

Is it still based on Gamebryo?

Thank you.

The registered trademark, which is our only known information so far, will totally answer that very specific question!

[naff]

Pretty sure that's a yes, I cant imagine why they would transition from it when they've spent so much time and effort customising it. Only other option would be Id tech and that has heaps of its own issues with open world stuff, day night cycles etc afaik. Biggest problem with gamebryo by the time Skyrim came around seemed to be memory management which shouldn't be as big a deal now.

[StealthFan]

is himomo just being hormonal?

I love you breh and I say the word cheeseburger a lot but damn.

[mjemirzian]

It was a joke.

[Great Rumbler]

Look, people need to realize that Bethesda's game are the way they are because they're developed by Bethesda, not because they're using Gamebryo. And that's why Skyrim plays like their other games even though it supposedly used a brand new engine and games like Epic Mickey, Catherine, and Divinity II use Gamebryo but are totally different.

[Damian79]

WTF at that George Zeits quote.  I hope he is normally a story writer and not a game designer.

[Himu]

Keep your excitement. I'll keep my apathy and express it as well.

[Great Rumbler]

Sounds like an awful way to live life.

[Himu]

Looking at how defensive you are towards the product, you aren't really one to talk.