Final Fantasy VIII on Steam, the launch trailer made so happy ;_;

[Himu]

Sweet fuck the launch trailer.





It is PERFECTLY cut. FINALLY, FFVIII fans get some love.

WHERE'S MY LAGUNA SIDE GAME, S-E?

That trailer man

Borys-sannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn



Hold me.

[Himu]

This trailer perfectly displays why I fucking love this game.



THE PACING. It's so action-packed, never lets up, gets better and better, awesome moment after awesome moment.

[Himu]

The remastered game over music in that trailer

Sweet lord. Why couldn't S-E release an actual good version?

[MCD]

I'm positive now more than ever that Himu is a guardian force user.

[Himu]

That trailer
The steez
The music

Borys-san Positive-san

[Himu]

Fuck.

YES.

Those cheevos.

[Himu]

Doing finish the initial level cheev could be challenging because some areas REALLY have a lot of enemies - notably the prison - where it's very easy to get xp and level up. Not to mention that you can't level up at the initial game where you're stocking up some abilities. In order to get Card, it'll take 40 AP, in order to get Card Mod it'll take 100 ap iirc. Going to have to find a good way to also get W-MG Refine early without leveling up too. Fuck yes.

You would have to run away from all enemies in the fire cave and the world map, and beat Ifrit for some 20 AP towards the 40. You theoretically beat the Fastitocalon-F for the extra 20 but you'd be killing them in the process but you're looking at 6-13 xp per kill, with a cap of 1000 xp required to level. So definitely possible.

I'm already thinking on how to do this run.

FFVIII

I've done a lot of low level runs, I've never done a Don't Level Up run. And unlike those losers who use Enc-None or Enc-Half, I just card every enemy because I like the challenge.

Here are my rules for this run:

- No leveling up, ever.
- No running away except at the beginning.
- No Enc-None or Enc-Half except in that dungeon where you fight Ultima Weapon because FUCK THAT PLACE.
- Card. Every. Enemy. If it's a human, turn them into stone.

[Great Rumbler]

Cool! I'll pick it up for $1.25 during a Steam sale!

[Himu]

Another great thing about this. You could hack the game files and make your party level 100. You'd be starting on hard mode from the outset.

[hampster]

Everyone buy this (and 14 whenever that comes) so FFXV comes to the PC

[Positive Touch]

Everyone buy this

FUCKING DO IT

[MCD]

Everyone buy this (and 14 whenever that comes) so FFXV comes to the PC

This is Square trying to get their money back after announcing Bravely Second. Don't kid yourself.

[Human Snorenado]

 

Give me IX, bitches

[Himu]

IX didn't have a PC port so you'll be waiting forever.

[Positive Touch]

VIII's biggest problem is that people suck too much to understand its majestic and progressive systems

[Himu]

Also they lack the imagination to make their own game rules. FFVIII is no different from FFV in that regard. I may make an FFVIII equivalent of FFV5JF next year.

[Positive Touch]

i would love that.

ff8 is incredibly versatile; most peoples problem seems to be that they think they need to stand around in battles and grind out spells. making rules that force them to use other ways to get spells would really push people to fully explore the games flexibility.

[magus]

you two are gayer than the brothers summon

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[Human Snorenado]

IX didn't have a PC port so you'll be waiting forever.

Can I get IX on PSN? If so I'll just buy it there and stfu.

[Rahxephon91]

Game is garbage.

Just buy the music CD and there. You've seen the best of VIII.

Maybe get an art book too.

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I'm going to buy this.

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[Your Stalker]

can't wait to pirate it. i coulda pirated it years ago tho

[Great Rumbler]

IX didn't have a PC port so you'll be waiting forever.

Can I get IX on PSN?

Yes.

[thisismyusername]

Haters get out.

Himuro: HOLD ME. I've been waiting for this so I can go through FF8 a twelveth time for the achievements. 

Probably my favorite FF until 12 took that spot, so second favorite FF.

[Positive Touch]

another member to the club

[Human Snorenado]

IX didn't have a PC port so you'll be waiting forever.

Can I get IX on PSN?

Yes.

Fuck all of that, Chrono Cross is on PSN.  Might as well play the best 32 bit era rpg if I'm gonna play one at all   

[Great Rumbler]

IX didn't have a PC port so you'll be waiting forever.

Can I get IX on PSN?

Yes.

Might as well play the best 32 bit era rpg if I'm gonna play one at all   

Good choice, Breath of Fire 3 is an all-time classic!

[Positive Touch]

breath of fire 3 and chrono cross being better than a ps1 final fantasy

take that shit back to the gutter brehs

[Human Snorenado]

breath of fire 3 and chrono cross being better than a ps1 final fantasy

take that shit back to the gutter brehs

The PS1 FF games are some of the most overrated in the series.

I realize you guys have rose tinted memories of those games cause they were some of your formative gaming memories, but they're not all that great.

[Positive Touch]

yeah for real i know that all three games had lots of great ideas with gameplay and story and shit that came together like 80% of the way but couldnt quite make it past the finish line, but still FINAL FANTASY HOLY SHIT ALL THE NERD FEELS YESSSSS

[Positive Touch]

ok im gonna go play some elder scrolls to get all this weeaboo off me

[Stoney Mason]

Never played 8. The criticism of it was so great when it originally launched that I didn't try it.

I should probably give it a try.

[Himu]

Haters get out.

Himuro: HOLD ME. I've been waiting for this so I can go through FF8 a twelveth time for the achievements. 

Probably my favorite FF until 12 took that spot, so second favorite FF.

ONE OF US.

FF5, 8, and 12 TRIFECTA CLUB.

[thisismyusername]

Never played 8. The criticism of it was so great when it originally launched that I didn't try it.

I should probably give it a try.

Definitely give it a try, but make sure you're in 1999 mode because the graphics are very aged now.

But the gameplay itself is still fine for the age.

[Himu]

Never played 8. The criticism of it was so great when it originally launched that I didn't try it.

I should probably give it a try.

Definitely give it a try, but make sure you're in 1999 mode because the graphics are very aged now.

But the gameplay itself is still fine for the age.

Graphics are dated but the art direction is as beautiful as ever. Also it looks BEAUTIFUL on a psp.

[Himu]

[Himu]

you know a game is good when you have to find your own ways of making it fun

To be fair, this is true for practically every FF since IV, often due to their customization systems. V-X are fuck easy. Unless you make your own rules. I personally find FFV easy as hell without doing 5JF, and you have to actually go out of your way to make VI challenging. VII? Pssh. Impossible, might as well  get some hack for the pc version. IX? Same thing, except there's no pc to hack. X? The only means is a no sphere grid run. VIII however allows challenges and limitations within its own game sub systems, similarly to V. FF has been "create your own fun" for a LONG time. FFXII and arguably XIII are the lone exceptions, since Tactics, and if you're talking about the main series, the nes FF's. X-2 is fun by itself despite being a broken mess.

[Great Rumbler]

take that shit back to the gutter brehs

I will not.

[Positive Touch]

FF5, 8, and 12 TRIFECTA CLUB.

SPECIAL APPRECIATION AWARD FOR 10-2 ALSO

[Himu]

I think junctions are fun as hell. I also like the characters and story. Much better story than XIII's, at least. VIII's story is flawed, but I respect the vision behind it. It had a lot of thought put into it and I'd rather have an inspired yet flawed story than something like XIII's, or IX's.

There is no super secret handshake. The game lays all of these options on the table. It is up to you to use them. There is also no "right" way to play the game.

And to be fair to the story, I've heard from a lot of people that many niggles people have with it are due to the translation. For instance, Squall never says,"whatever" in the Japanese version apparently, and talks in a much more apologetic, polite manner.

[magus]

Never played 8. The criticism of it was so great when it originally launched that I didn't try it.

I should probably give it a try.

the art direction is good,really good like every other psx FF,however a lot of the gameplay system are either stupid or odd (you get spells by sucking them from monster and then use spells by linking them to stat and you can only link them to certain stat if the summon you have equipped on your character says you can do so... so for example you get 100 fire from some bug monster and then ifrit can link strenght with those and as long as you keep those 100 fire in your inventory you get a strenght bonus... another odd one is that monster don't drop money,you get a wage after a certain amount of dicking around and to increase your wage you have to answer quizzes about the game like "are fire monster weak to water attacks?",the monster in this game level up with you and your character's always need to get 1000 XP to level up,since the game works that way in fact it's completly possible to grind your way to level 99 right at the start of the game even though it's pretty pointless to do so) and the plot is convoluted enough to make you say "fuck this shit!"  by the time is over and yes i'm applying FF standard's here

you know a game is good when you have to find your own ways of making it fun

To be fair, this is true for practically every FF since IV, often due to their customization systems. V-X are fuck easy. Unless you make your own rules. I personally find FFV easy as hell without doing 5JF, and you have to actually go out of your way to make VI challenging. VII? Pssh. Impossible, might as well  get some hack for the pc version. IX? Same thing, except there's no pc to hack. X? The only means is a no sphere grid run. VIII however allows challenges and limitations within its own game sub systems, similarly to V. FF has been "create your own fun" for a LONG time. FFXII and arguably XIII are the lone exceptions, since Tactics, and if you're talking about the main series, the nes FF's. X-2 is fun by itself despite being a broken mess.

the steam version let you start with 100 of every -ra spell,just saying

[Himu]

That's true. It does have a lot of tutorials within its menu though. So they are there, just optional. And you have to read them in order to gain SEED rank, anyways, unless you hit the guide and jam in all the right answers. The problem being that they give tutorials for the most tedious means of play and make getting many alternative means (card for instance) tough work.

I just disagree that the other FF's are fun playing normal. VI, VII, IX, and X bore me to tears playing normally now.

the steam version let you start with 100 of every -ra spell,just saying

What?

[Rahxephon91]

Has the best battle music.



I was with this game up until what the end of disc 1? Whatever disc ends with you trying to assassinate Edea. Then the game revealed she wasn't the villain and like the cool 1940s world went away for stupid rocket ships and invisible futuristic world and I just started spamming GFs. The game lost me.

[magus]

Key Features:

    Magic Booster

    When Magic Booster is used, the player’s inventory of the following spells is increased by 100:

    Cure, Cura, Curaga, Fire, Fira, Blizzard, Blizzara, Thunder, Thundara, Sleep, Blind, Silence, Berserk, Bio, Esuna, Aero, Confuse, Break, Zombie

    This feature can be used from the launcher.

honestly i can't realize why they would do this other than knowing that drawing spell is so fucking boring

[Himu]

Has the best battle music.



I was with this game up until what the end of disc 1? Whatever disc ends with you trying to assassinate Edea. Then the game revealed she wasn't the villain and like the cool 1940s world went away for stupid rocket ships and invisible futuristic world and I just started spamming GFs. The game lost me.

You try to assassinate Edea on disc 1, but she's the villain well into disc 2. You go to Esthar and go into space () on disc 3.

It also has the best town theme in an rpg.



I really liked space, though. It creeped me out when I was kid and Rinoa goes ape shit.

[Himu]

Key Features:

    Magic Booster

    When Magic Booster is used, the player’s inventory of the following spells is increased by 100:

    Cure, Cura, Curaga, Fire, Fira, Blizzard, Blizzara, Thunder, Thundara, Sleep, Blind, Silence, Berserk, Bio, Esuna, Aero, Confuse, Break, Zombie

    This feature can be used from the launcher.

honestly i can't realize why they would do this other than knowing that drawing spell is so fucking boring

Eh...good news, you can just equip those Ra spells to your Mag at the beginning of the game. After that, I'd delete all of that magic except that Ra spell and draw on the field for 10 per turn.

[thisismyusername]

I've tried to play 9 like 3-4 times now and it just... bores me to tears. It's so slow and I loathe it's ability learning system. I hated it in FFTA1-2 as well. So it isn't just exclusive to 9.

I've tried 10-2 and stopped for some reason, I forget... I should probably pick up the HD re-release and see if achievements spur me to finish it...

[Himu]

IX is boring to play. I play it for the characters and world and side quests these days.

[Himu]

It is a great game no doubt. I just find the game play too simple these days. It hits the same problem as IV: the character growth never really changes, so you're stuck along the same path every time you play. This isn't bad by itself, it is just that it is never as fun as the first time you play it because you've experienced it before and there's not much you can do to alter that experience.

I still feel it is a top tier FF though.

I think it'd be much better if it had a job system that expanded upon Tactics' and faster battles.

[Smooth Groove]

Game must look like ass on high res PC monitors since they didn't redo the pre-rendered backgrounds

[Lucretius]

I loved FF VIII right up until…

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… I got to the end and realized I'd apparently been playing it wrong the whole time and couldn't get passed Ultimecia's Castle.

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[Joe Molotov]

I loved FF VIII right up until…

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… I got to the end and realized I'd apparently been playing it wrong the whole time and couldn't get passed Ultimecia's Castle.

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Just go to The Island Closest to Heaven, equip Enc-None, draw all the badass spells and then spam them to victory.

[thisismyusername]

Game must look like ass on high res PC monitors since they didn't redo the pre-rendered backgrounds

You can put it in a window. Just keep the aspect ratio checked since it's 4:3.

As for Ultemecia's Castle, you only need to worry about the first boss if you've been spamming GF's. Once you've downed that one get the GF ability back, junction GF's again (IIRC Junction isn't locked) and then spam them to victory again.

[Beezy]

Fun fact: This is the first FF game I actually played through. I also quit once I got to Ultemecia's castle.

Never understood the hate for it and I don't care to.

[Positive Touch]

HELL YES BEEZY AND LUCRETIUS ON THE WINNING TEAM

[Rahxephon91]

Some winning team. Desperate to count people who couldn't even finish the game.

[Beezy]

I didn't even make an attempt. I was so pissed that they took all my abilities. Ran around a bit, found Ultemecia, lost badly, and never touched it again.

I still have FF8 & 9 for PS1. Not sure who I borrowed them from, but I guess they didn't want them back.

[thisismyusername]

I didn't even make an attempt. I was so pissed that they took all my abilities. Ran around a bit, found Ultemecia, lost badly, and never touched it again.

I still have FF8 & 9 for PS1. Not sure who I borrowed them from, but I guess they didn't want them back.

Well now's the time to finish FF8 at least?

Go in with the knowledge your stuff will be sealed until you beat bosses. Unless you're EXTREMELY confident in beating Ultimecia with nothing but attacks, anyway.

Once you've got:

Draw, Magic, GF, and maybe item you should be set to go for her. But IIRC there's like 8 bosses hidden in the castle before that to unlock all abilities.

[Beezy]

I'm definitely buying it on Steam.

I knew about the other bosses. 12-13 year old me just thought that was some bullshit to pull at the end of the game.

[Lucretius]

If I remember right, I couldn't beat any of Ultimecia's servants because I got to the end of the game never having upgraded any of my weapons.  Couldn't survive any of the fights to get back my abilities back.

[Rahxephon91]

I had some trouble with the final boss. I believe she is scaled with Squall's level right? The game was one of the early jrpgs I played and I was really bad at party management. Kind of just relied on Squall and well he was a bit more leveled then everyone else. Made for a tough final battle.