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spoiler (click to show/hide)What about hair color though? If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic[close]
Quote from: Steve Contra on March 20, 2014, 03:27:06 PMspoiler (click to show/hide)What about hair color though? If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic[close]actuallyspoiler (click to show/hide)The Targaryen silver hair/purple eye trait are not dominant; many Targaryens don't have silver blonde hair either. In fact the very same book Ned uses to prove Joffrey isn't a Lannister gives it away. Robert Baratheon's grandmother is a Targaryen, and all her children had black hair.Also, Jon is compared to Lyanna, looks wise.[close]
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on March 20, 2014, 03:53:17 PMQuote from: Steve Contra on March 20, 2014, 03:27:06 PMspoiler (click to show/hide)What about hair color though? If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic[close]actuallyspoiler (click to show/hide)The Targaryen silver hair/purple eye trait are not dominant; many Targaryens don't have silver blonde hair either. In fact the very same book Ned uses to prove Joffrey isn't a Lannister gives it away. Robert Baratheon's grandmother is a Targaryen, and all her children had black hair.Also, Jon is compared to Lyanna, looks wise.[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)It's still lazy![close]
The Meereenese Blot blog proves that Dany's ADWD chapters are great material so I can't wait for the TV version.
spoiler (click to show/hide)Victarion is just a shitty character. It's really hard to get excited about those because it's all rape this, murder that, angryangryangry. Agreed the Barristan chapters capped the book off satisfactorily. Like I told PD though, leaving Stannis in the snow was a I can't think of what the fuck I'm doing cop out.[close]
Quote from: Steve Contra on March 20, 2014, 05:34:30 PMspoiler (click to show/hide)Victarion is just a shitty character. It's really hard to get excited about those because it's all rape this, murder that, angryangryangry. Agreed the Barristan chapters capped the book off satisfactorily. Like I told PD though, leaving Stannis in the snow was a I can't think of what the fuck I'm doing cop out.[close]spoiler (click to show/hide)Martin basically had to end the book. It ends in the middle of what he wanted to do- wanted to get the Winterfell and Dany battles in but couldn't. The Barristan chapters were some of the few I actually enjoyed in the book- agreed on Tyrion, I enjoyed his first few chapters but then he just went to shit. BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M SAD AND HERE'S PENNY, WHERE DO WHORES GO BLAH. The Jon chapters sucked too I thought. "Let me send all of my most loyal friends/supporters away and make increasingly unpopular decisions, what could go wrong?" I really hope the next book turns shit around, PD will stan the fuck out of the book but I thought it was crap.[close]
spoiler (click to show/hide)Stannis isn't just in the snow though. He settled his army in a village, and is planning for the battle to occur there. You should read Theon's TWOW chapter...http://archive.is/eoIlThe battle was moved from ADWD to TWOW sadly. [close]
Tyrion's story was worse
Quote from: Steve Contra on March 20, 2014, 05:25:53 PMTyrion's story was worse Except for spoiler (click to show/hide)the Heart of Darkness-esque trip down the Rhoyne and the reveal of Aegon, which made Tyrion's chapters in ADWD awesome.[close]
Finally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers. spoiler (click to show/hide)Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end. It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk. Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter. Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc. Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall. Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.Definitely was the weakest book imo. People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS. The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too. Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.[close]
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Quote from: Bebpo on April 07, 2014, 06:21:11 AMFinally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers. spoiler (click to show/hide)Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end. It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk. Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter. Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc. Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall. Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.Definitely was the weakest book imo. People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS. The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too. Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.[close]no worries brehadwdspoiler (click to show/hide)Stannis and Jon aren't dead[close]
Quote from: Phoenix Dark on April 07, 2014, 07:16:54 AMQuote from: Bebpo on April 07, 2014, 06:21:11 AMFinally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers. spoiler (click to show/hide)Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end. It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk. Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter. Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc. Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall. Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.Definitely was the weakest book imo. People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS. The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too. Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.[close]no worries brehadwdspoiler (click to show/hide)Stannis and Jon aren't dead[close]Yeah butspoiler (click to show/hide)While I'd like that because Stannis is the only interesting guy left fighting and Jon is kind of lovable pup, it just would add more bs fake out deaths and bs plot armor for the pov characters which is getting worse and worse as the books come out. How many times has Tyrion fake died? The series started off very non-cliche and GRRM wasn't afraid to kil off characters, but now it's like a cheesy anime where no one really dies until endgame when he starts getting rid of everyone.Also at least with Jon's death you get a feeling that some important stuff happened in ADWD. Without those deaths, the book feels even less important.[close]
adwdspoiler (click to show/hide)People seriously think Stannis is dead based ONLY on the Bolton bastard's letter? Yeah, cause he's trustworthy. [close]
That guy looked so weird, I assumed chicks would dig the new guy.
Reading some of these posts, I'm glad I don't spend too much time fucking around with fan theories.
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