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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #120 on: March 20, 2014, 12:28:12 PM »
Dany's season 2 stuff was straight mid 90's syndicated show level.

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« Reply #121 on: March 20, 2014, 12:34:30 PM »
Dany is a great character with mostly terrible storylines.  ADWD

I just hope the show can fix all the problems in the 5th book, because the more I think I about it the more I think Martin doesn't have any idea where the story is going.
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« Reply #122 on: March 20, 2014, 02:46:06 PM »
Oh you're finished? So I can finally ask you

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Who is Jon's mom breh
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« Reply #123 on: March 20, 2014, 03:00:19 PM »
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I've thought about that and I have no idea, but it isn't the fisherman's daughter, or she wasn't a fisherman's daughter beforehand.  it is, of course, important.
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« Reply #124 on: March 20, 2014, 03:12:36 PM »
:leon

So I get to pop your cherry huh :noah
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Jon Snow isn't Ned Stark's son. He's the child of Rhaegar Targaryen and Lyanna Stark

the following link features the other theories about his parentage, but R+L=J is the universally accepted theory. Martin asked Benioff and Weiss who they believed Jon's mother was, as a "test" to see whether he was going to let them adapt the books into a show. They gave the right answer, and while we don't know what they said...they almost certainly said Lyanna.
http://towerofthehand.com/essays/chrisholden/jon_snows_parents.html
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« Reply #125 on: March 20, 2014, 03:27:06 PM »
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What about hair color though?  If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic
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« Reply #126 on: March 20, 2014, 03:32:22 PM »
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What about hair color though?  If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic
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Don't know because a lot of Targ's are results of incest.
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« Reply #127 on: March 20, 2014, 03:36:54 PM »
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They're hair is always silver!  It's a plot point in ADWD, and hair color is a huge part, so basically setting it aside is just sloppy
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« Reply #128 on: March 20, 2014, 03:37:33 PM »
Good point.
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« Reply #129 on: March 20, 2014, 03:39:31 PM »
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And young Griff is the reult of Targ+Martell and his hair is still silver, so intermarriage doesn't matter.  I'm not saying it's not true, but it would be obsfucation for plaot sake and not consistent.
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« Reply #130 on: March 20, 2014, 03:47:11 PM »
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Baelor from Dunk and Egg had black hair, he also had a Martell mother. So did a few minor Targs mentioned here and there so it's not a constant.
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« Reply #131 on: March 20, 2014, 03:49:05 PM »
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That's all well and good, but it's just lazy storytelling if true.
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« Reply #132 on: March 20, 2014, 03:53:17 PM »
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What about hair color though?  If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic
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The Targaryen silver hair/purple eye trait are not dominant; many Targaryens don't have silver blonde hair either. In fact the very same book Ned uses to prove Joffrey isn't a Lannister gives it away. Robert Baratheon's grandmother is a Targaryen, and all her children had black hair.

Also, Jon is compared to Lyanna, looks wise.
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« Reply #133 on: March 20, 2014, 03:57:23 PM »
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What about hair color though?  If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic
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The Targaryen silver hair/purple eye trait are not dominant; many Targaryens don't have silver blonde hair either. In fact the very same book Ned uses to prove Joffrey isn't a Lannister gives it away. Robert Baratheon's grandmother is a Targaryen, and all her children had black hair.

Also, Jon is compared to Lyanna, looks wise.
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It's still lazy!
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« Reply #134 on: March 20, 2014, 04:05:12 PM »
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What about hair color though?  If Martin starts the whole fucking series on hair color and then abandons it for Jon thats fucking idiotic
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The Targaryen silver hair/purple eye trait are not dominant; many Targaryens don't have silver blonde hair either. In fact the very same book Ned uses to prove Joffrey isn't a Lannister gives it away. Robert Baratheon's grandmother is a Targaryen, and all her children had black hair.

Also, Jon is compared to Lyanna, looks wise.
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It's still lazy!
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The Targaryens have a pretty detailed family tree, and feature a mixture of hair colors because their features aren't dominant. Jon Arryn's comment about the seed being strong was in reference to the Baratheon blood line/traits. All Robert's ancestors have black hair no matter who they marry.

Robb and Sansa have reddish hair (from Catelyn/Tullys) whereas Bran/Rickon/Arya have browner, Stark features. Jon has brown hair as well.
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« Reply #135 on: March 20, 2014, 04:11:23 PM »
The Meereenese Blot blog proves that Dany's ADWD chapters are great material so I can't wait for the TV version.

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« Reply #136 on: March 20, 2014, 04:15:27 PM »
One thing about your ADWD point and hair color, Cohen
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Aegon isn't a Targaryen, he's a Blackfyre fraud. :whew

welcome to the world of ASOIAF theories breh. I'll explain when I get off work. Gonna send you some links that will blow your mind :lawd
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« Reply #137 on: March 20, 2014, 04:15:53 PM »
Her chapters are so fucking boring.

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What do we do with the character with the Dragons?  Lets see...politicking!  In fact they made almost all the characters in ADWD boring.  Even Stannis is more boring, and he's Stannis!
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« Reply #138 on: March 20, 2014, 04:37:42 PM »
Actually with a few months to think about it ADWD was definitely my least favorite of the books.
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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #139 on: March 20, 2014, 05:22:20 PM »
The Meereenese Blot blog proves that Dany's ADWD chapters are great material so I can't wait for the TV version.

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« Reply #140 on: March 20, 2014, 05:25:53 PM »
Tyrion's story was worse :ufup
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« Reply #141 on: March 20, 2014, 05:34:30 PM »
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Victarion is just a shitty character.  It's really hard to get excited about those because it's all rape this, murder that, angryangryangry.  Agreed the Barristan chapters capped the book off satisfactorily.   Like I told PD though, leaving Stannis in the snow was a I can't think of what the fuck I'm doing cop out.
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« Reply #142 on: March 20, 2014, 05:43:07 PM »
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Victarion is just a shitty character.  It's really hard to get excited about those because it's all rape this, murder that, angryangryangry.  Agreed the Barristan chapters capped the book off satisfactorily.   Like I told PD though, leaving Stannis in the snow was a I can't think of what the fuck I'm doing cop out.
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Martin basically had to end the book. It ends in the middle of what he wanted to do- wanted to get the Winterfell and Dany battles in but couldn't. The Barristan chapters were some of the few I actually enjoyed in the book- agreed on Tyrion, I enjoyed his first few chapters but then he just went to shit. BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M SAD AND HERE'S PENNY, WHERE DO WHORES GO BLAH. The Jon chapters sucked too I thought. "Let me send all of my most loyal friends/supporters away and make increasingly unpopular decisions, what could go wrong?" I really hope the next book turns shit around, PD will stan the fuck out of the book but I thought it was crap.
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« Reply #143 on: March 20, 2014, 05:46:35 PM »
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Victarion is just a shitty character.  It's really hard to get excited about those because it's all rape this, murder that, angryangryangry.  Agreed the Barristan chapters capped the book off satisfactorily.   Like I told PD though, leaving Stannis in the snow was a I can't think of what the fuck I'm doing cop out.
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Martin basically had to end the book. It ends in the middle of what he wanted to do- wanted to get the Winterfell and Dany battles in but couldn't. The Barristan chapters were some of the few I actually enjoyed in the book- agreed on Tyrion, I enjoyed his first few chapters but then he just went to shit. BLAH BLAH BLAH I'M SAD AND HERE'S PENNY, WHERE DO WHORES GO BLAH. The Jon chapters sucked too I thought. "Let me send all of my most loyal friends/supporters away and make increasingly unpopular decisions, what could go wrong?" I really hope the next book turns shit around, PD will stan the fuck out of the book but I thought it was crap.
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There's a lot of time wasted in the book, I mean there's a few chapters on young Griff landing and what not.  Who gives a fuck?  In the first three books that would be handled with one of the main characters hearing about it.  Stannis in the snow?  Who gives a shit, again.  It's obvious that yes, he needed to end the book, and no, he did not have an idea of how exactly it was going to end.
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« Reply #144 on: March 20, 2014, 05:51:35 PM »
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Stannis isn't just in the snow though. He settled his army in a village, and is planning for the battle to occur there. You should read Theon's TWOW chapter...
http://archive.is/eoIl

The battle was moved from ADWD to TWOW sadly.
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« Reply #145 on: March 20, 2014, 05:53:36 PM »
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Stannis isn't just in the snow though. He settled his army in a village, and is planning for the battle to occur there. You should read Theon's TWOW chapter...
http://archive.is/eoIl

The battle was moved from ADWD to TWOW sadly.
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That's what I mean, Stannis settling into a village isn't exactly compelling reading :zzz
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« Reply #146 on: March 20, 2014, 06:32:38 PM »
By the way I'm talking about this in this thread with PD over pms :fbm

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« Reply #147 on: March 20, 2014, 06:40:51 PM »
Tyrion's story was worse :ufup
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the Heart of Darkness-esque trip down the Rhoyne and the reveal of Aegon, which made Tyrion's chapters in ADWD awesome.
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« Reply #148 on: March 20, 2014, 06:44:25 PM »
Tyrion's story was worse :ufup
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the Heart of Darkness-esque trip down the Rhoyne and the reveal of Aegon, which made Tyrion's chapters in ADWD awesome.
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« Reply #149 on: March 20, 2014, 07:20:04 PM »
I suppose we can all agree
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that chapter with the stone men attacking the boat was pretty dope tho
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« Reply #150 on: March 20, 2014, 10:32:56 PM »
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« Reply #151 on: March 21, 2014, 12:21:33 AM »
the TWOW chapter that was released today:

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Tyrion II. If you haven't read Tyrion I, basically he's playing cyvasse with Ben Plumm trying to convince him to switch sides again. Plumm heads out to for a military meeting, then Jorah notices scores of Iron Born ships have arrived in the bay.

Tyrion II
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« Reply #152 on: March 21, 2014, 12:50:42 AM »
:noah

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Tyrion's best chapter in 12 years.
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« Reply #153 on: March 21, 2014, 02:45:05 PM »
:whew gonna save this for my break tonight.
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« Reply #154 on: April 06, 2014, 07:12:39 PM »
couple more hours brehs


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« Reply #155 on: April 06, 2014, 10:10:06 PM »
dat arya
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« Reply #156 on: April 06, 2014, 10:22:03 PM »
arya is now in badass-mode.

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« Reply #157 on: April 06, 2014, 11:01:54 PM »
Ser Duncan The Tall reference :rejoice
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« Reply #158 on: April 07, 2014, 12:11:31 AM »

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« Reply #159 on: April 07, 2014, 12:36:18 AM »
was alright.  arya steals the show yet again
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« Reply #160 on: April 07, 2014, 06:21:11 AM »
Finally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers. 
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Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end.  It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk.  Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter.  Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc.  Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall.  Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.

Definitely was the weakest book imo.  People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS.  The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too.  Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).

Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.
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« Reply #161 on: April 07, 2014, 06:48:15 AM »
Oberyn's actor sold me on the character, even if he's still not quite the book description of him physically. Also fucking awesome to see Indira Varma working in another genre show again. She was so great in Rome.

And she's fucking beautiful, too.

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« Reply #162 on: April 07, 2014, 07:16:54 AM »
Finally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers. 
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Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end.  It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk.  Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter.  Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc.  Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall.  Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.

Definitely was the weakest book imo.  People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS.  The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too.  Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).

Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.
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no worries breh

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« Reply #164 on: April 07, 2014, 10:28:40 AM »
Episode was pretty cool. The first episodes of GOT have kinda always been dull to me because it doesn't feel like a premiere... just another episode.
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« Reply #166 on: April 07, 2014, 01:17:47 PM »
Quite impressed with the showrunners, managed to ruin two Arya scenes with one stone, other than that the episode was pretty good.

Show only watchers don't read this:

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I assume they are eliminating the son of the current Magnar of Thenn from the story? no way would Stannis let a cannibal merry a Karstark.
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« Reply #167 on: April 07, 2014, 01:29:41 PM »
Seriously that chapter had some fantastic lines and the show runners had them sitting there talking about chickens :snoop
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« Reply #168 on: April 07, 2014, 01:39:42 PM »
if you don't like the Hound's chicken one liners you're a square. That shit was funny

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« Reply #169 on: April 07, 2014, 01:46:37 PM »
Finally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers. 
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Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end.  It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk.  Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter.  Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc.  Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall.  Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.

Definitely was the weakest book imo.  People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS.  The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too.  Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).

Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.
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no worries breh

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Yeah but

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While I'd like that because Stannis is the only interesting guy left fighting and Jon is kind of lovable pup, it just would add more bs fake out deaths and bs plot armor for the pov characters which is getting worse and worse as the books come out.  How many times has Tyrion fake died?  The series started off very non-cliche and GRRM wasn't afraid to kil off characters, but now it's like a cheesy anime where no one really dies until endgame when he starts getting rid of everyone.

Also at least with Jon's death you get a feeling that some important stuff happened in ADWD.  Without those deaths, the book feels even less important.
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« Reply #170 on: April 07, 2014, 02:08:49 PM »
Finally finished reading ADWD and am caught up so I can read spoilers. 
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Man, I enjoyed the first half of the book but jesus did it fall apart by the end.  It was still a very entertaining read but so many of the stories are junk.  Tyrion starts solid on his journey and then it just meanders for the whole second half once he meets Penny and Dany was all terrible all throughout and she gets like every 3rd chapter.  Then it builds up Stannis/Bolton showdown the entire book Westeroes side and doesn't show it (yeah, I understand it was carried over to the next battle) and instead we're left with a letter from Ramsey saying "Yup, Stannis died, Mance is captured/dead and I'm still alive bitches!" which was an incredibly unsatisfying way to end that arc.  Then Jon gets killed and even though Jon is dumb, I gotta wonder whose left to PoV the further stories of the wall since I can't think of one other interesting character at the wall.  Also Arya does nothing for the whole book and Victorian is just pissed off angry Kratos.

Definitely was the weakest book imo.  People give AFFC a lot of shit, but I thought it was fairly good even if it was a step down from ASoS.  The Jaime stuff was fantastic and the Dorne stuff was great too.  Brienne's chapters are kind of filler as they end up on a pointless goose chase, but Cersei's gives some needed insight into her character and a satisfying YOUR FUCKED end (which I'm not really happy with ADWD changing and getting her back to the castle).

Hopefully Book 6 is more satisfying and starts really pulling all the threads together so that he can setup the endgame and close it out in another book or two.
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no worries breh

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Stannis and Jon aren't dead
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Yeah but

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While I'd like that because Stannis is the only interesting guy left fighting and Jon is kind of lovable pup, it just would add more bs fake out deaths and bs plot armor for the pov characters which is getting worse and worse as the books come out.  How many times has Tyrion fake died?  The series started off very non-cliche and GRRM wasn't afraid to kil off characters, but now it's like a cheesy anime where no one really dies until endgame when he starts getting rid of everyone.

Also at least with Jon's death you get a feeling that some important stuff happened in ADWD.  Without those deaths, the book feels even less important.
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We don't know if the letter is accurate. It seems way too ridiculous to me. Read Theon's first TWOW chapter (it occurs before the letter is presumably sent).

On Jon...remember the prologue? Also Melisandre saying every time she looks for Azor Ahai in the flames she sees Jon. Also she says she sees Jon in the flames as a man then a wolf and then a man again. And his direwolf's name is Ghost...

Jon warged into Ghost at the end, hence why he didn't feel the final stab. Perhaps he's dead but I don't expect he'll stay dead. I'll give Martin a pass here since I think he's going to shit can a pretty big trope. IE the hero with a mysterious past/Chosen One has to live for the final act. Well what if the Chosen One dies and is brought back, perhaps as a villain? Or brought back worse off. Should be interesting.

I agree the fake out deaths are stupid. I really hated Asha's fake out, where it seemed like she got killed and  then boom she's Stannis' prisoner.
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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #171 on: April 07, 2014, 02:26:43 PM »
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People seriously think Stannis is dead based ONLY on the Bolton bastard's letter? Yeah, cause he's trustworthy. :gurl
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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #172 on: April 07, 2014, 02:37:21 PM »
I'd bet cash money right now that
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The Freys attack Stannis, who is encapped on an island surrounded by a frozen lake. They begin to fall into the water, and the Manderlys start slaughtering them from behind. Manderly meets with Stannis, proves he didn't kill Davos, and then they team up. Manderly takes "Lightbringer" to Winterfell as proof he defeated Stannis, while Stannis' army slowly creeps closer to Winterfell. Then one night Manderly's men open the gates and let Stannis' men in.
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on the show: man the chicks at work are SO bummed Daario was recast. That guy looked so weird, I assumed chicks would dig the new guy.
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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #173 on: April 07, 2014, 02:43:21 PM »
The new guy is even worse that the other Daario and looks so ordinary and boring, is Danny suppose to fall for this fool after taking that manly Dothraki dick for months?
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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #174 on: April 07, 2014, 02:54:52 PM »
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People seriously think Stannis is dead based ONLY on the Bolton bastard's letter? Yeah, cause he's trustworthy. :gurl
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Well, whenever anyone dies off-screen in the series, it's usually a fake-out, so I mean the chance of Stannis dying seems like 1/5 or something.  The bigger problem with the letter was it had a few specifics that were annoying like mance Rayder actually being named (I'm guessing he got Mance's name through torturing him because otherwise how the hell would Ramsey even know what Mance looks like) and lightbringer being named.  Also the letter just sucks because it means regardless of if Stannis lived or died in the battle, Ramsey is still alive and boyyyyy did I want to see Stannis smash his blade through that guys face.

I like PD's theory thought about how Ramsey got lightbringer.  Could definitely see something like that happening.
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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #175 on: April 07, 2014, 03:00:57 PM »
also
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Dany sees Stannis in her vision, as one of the three lies she'll disprove. I assume he'll live long enough for her to show up. But then again "blue eyed king who cast no shadow" could also refer to him being less than human by the time she arrives. Stannis=the new Night's King?
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/1jfatm/spoilers_all_the_identity_of_the_new_nights_king/
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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #176 on: April 07, 2014, 03:09:38 PM »
That guy looked so weird, I assumed chicks would dig the new guy.

:what

Please tell me you are not this dumb nor not this blind. Old Dario is a hottie. New Dario is a bum.
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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #177 on: April 07, 2014, 03:11:54 PM »
Reading some of these posts, I'm glad I don't spend too much time fucking around with fan theories.

fan theories called the two biggest twists in ADWD before it came out
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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #178 on: April 07, 2014, 03:22:02 PM »
ADWD had twists?

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Re: Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi
« Reply #179 on: April 07, 2014, 04:00:00 PM »
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All hail HBO’s Game of Thrones. The fourth-season premiere of the fantasy delivered the show’s biggest audience yet: 6.6 million viewers. That makes Sunday’s Thrones HBO’s most-watched program since The Sopranos’ series finale in 2007. Two replays of the Thrones episode drove the show’s full-night tally up to 8.2 million viewers.

By comparison, season 3 opened to 4.4 million viewers and eventually peaked at 5.5 million for the sixth episode (no, the Red Wedding was not a record high, and nor was the finale, which delivered 5.4 million).

Last season Thrones averaged 14.4 million viewers per episode, second only to The Sopranos as HBO’s most-watched series. This year, Thrones might very well overtake the classic mob drama to claim the premium cable network’s all-time crown, especially given its history of growing its audience as a season progresses.

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crazy ratings
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