Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi

[Phoenix Dark]

I'll take A Storm Of Swords over Beloved any day of the week.

[Mandark]

I guess I'm with Triumph on this.  I didn't realize so many people rated ASOIAF that highly.  Base material for a tits'n'guts series on pay cable seems just about right to me (and gratuitous sex scenes are right in Martin's wheelhouse).  But everyone has their own fictional canons which they're a bit too protective of, so whatevs.

[Himu]

Are you getting the books and the tv show mixed up? Because upon re-reading the books, they're not gratuitous in their sexuality. Explicit, yes. But just as explicit as the violence and anything else. But not gratuitous.

[Human Snorenado]

I guess I'm with Triumph on this.

I knew you'd come around on Jane Austen eventually, breh

[Himu]

Honestly, I'm more shocked you guys don't realize that's how some people feel about ASOIAF.

I think ASOS is the best fantasy book ever written.

[Phoenix Dark]

Are you getting the books and the tv show mixed up? Because upon re-reading the books, they're not gratuitous in their sexuality. Explicit, yes. But just as explicit as the violence and anything else. But not gratuitous.

I'm done with this conversation. Can we talk about the show now?

[Human Snorenado]

I for one do realize that lots of people put the series and in particular ASoS on that kind of pedestal. However, I just disagree. It's good, the first three books are REALLY good, but ultimately I don't think it's anything too special for me.

This could be because:

1) I read the first three books over 10 years ago
2) I'm an old, grouchy asshole
3) I'm hyper critical by nature and not given to hyperbole
4) I generally discount the opinions of people who think Avatar was awesome or that change their minds frequently (this is a low blow, but see # 2)

Take your pick!

[Phoenix Dark]

Meh. It's probably the best "modern" fantasy series, and unless Martin fucks up the next two books it's a shoe horn as the biggest fantasy since LOTR. And has clearly had quite an impact on the genre over the last couple decades.

I'm not going to compare it to anything. But I will say I'm tired of "literature" snobs looking down on genre novels. And the criticism rings especially hollow coming from a Malazan stan

[CajoleJuice]

I've read no fantasy outside of this series, but I'm with Triumph, even if I loved ASoS.

[Human Snorenado]

I read Ulysses twice, bro. Come at me.

[Phoenix Dark]

That's two too many.

[Mandark]

I guess I'm with Triumph on this.

I knew you'd come around on Jane Austen eventually, breh

Honestly, I'm more shocked you guys don't realize that's how some people feel about ASOIAF.

I think ASOS is the best fantasy book ever written.

 

I know for a fact you've read Jonathan Strange.

[Phoenix Dark]

Isn't that the tween version of Harry Potter?

[Mandark]

Harry Potter

The Roald Dahl/Ursula Le Guin crossover fanfic, right?  I've heard good things.

[Madrun Badrun]

Wait who thinks Avatar was awesome?

[CajoleJuice]

One being the Willco Troll-O-Meter

[Phoenix Dark]

Anyway...

I loved how the cold open mixed the Stark and Lannister themes, and the Lannister theme slowly took over.

[Bebpo]

It's a good series.  I put it with Gundam, Metal Gear Solid, Xenogears, and other giant complex world building mythos that I generally enjoy because they cater to my taste of war, backstabbing and epic-sized tales of grey areas and people involved in things much bigger than them.

I don't try to convince people any of them are college-level classics though.  I also don't care if people don't like them, I get my kicks enjoying them and discussing them and universes with other people who enjoy them too.  Stuff doesn't have to be considered objectively good for anyone to enjoy it.  Tastes are pretty subjective, especially on the internet.


It's also the first book series I've ever read though, everything I've always read has been a standalone novel, novella, or short story collection; so it makes me want to try more.  Thinking about reading Harry Potter next?  Would read the Dark Tower series since I love 99% of everything Stephen King, but I heard the series goes to shit halfway and is incredibly disappointing in the end which makes me want to avoid starting it.
*edit* actually I did read the Dune series and one of the Star Wars trilogies back when I was a kid.

[Human Snorenado]

It's a good series.  I put it with Gundam, Metal Gear Solid, Xenogears

Whoa whoa whoa

I said it was pretty good, there's no need to go talking crazy shit about the series

[Human Snorenado]

At least he didn't say Xenosaga.

Gears is worse than Saga.

[ZephyrFate]

The sexposition scenes are fucking terrible, stop defending them PD your arguments for them won't work because the scenes are fucking stupid.


Also, the show got renewed for two more seasons. Get to writing, you fat fuck!

also I do agree that ASOS is the best fantasy book written. His first work, Sandkings, is one of the top five science fiction stories ever written, too.

[Diunx]

Honestly, I'm more shocked you guys don't realize that's how some people feel about ASOIAF.

I think ASOS is the best fantasy book ever written.

Agreed.

[Diunx]

I like tits so I have no problem with the sexposition, not gonna front thou I'm gonna complaint if they star showing cocks

[CatsCatsCats]

Y'all getting pretty silly with this "is it a classic" debate.

[Steve Contra]

It'll be remembered as a "pretty good fantasy series" when all is said and done

[CatsCatsCats]

I'm kinda worried it will fall off at the end and be remembered as a huge disappointment, to be honest.

[Himu]

It likely will

[Steve Contra]

If the quality of the last two books keeps up, yeah.

[Steve Contra]

In a land beset by war a young girl finds 3 dragons to battle a long dormant supernatural threat #jrpgplotorliterarymasterpiece

[Human Snorenado]

In a land beset by war a young girl finds 3 dragons to battle a long dormant supernatural threat #jrpgplotorliterarymasterpiece

It's even got all sorts of loli shit

[Steve Contra]

In a land beset by war a young girl finds 3 dragons to battle a long dormant supernatural threat #jrpgplotorliterarymasterpiece

It's even got all sorts of loli shit

And incest

[Snake]

*A Dance With Dragons spoilers*

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I wasn't jerking off to a little girl, mom. Her name is Leaf. And she may be called one of the "Children of the Forest," but she's over two hundred years old.

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[ZephyrFate]

they need to start showign more cocks in GoT

[Himu]

they need to start showign more cocks in GoT

[Phoenix Dark]

*A Dance With Dragons spoilers*

spoiler (click to show/hide)

I wasn't jerking off to a little girl, mom. Her name is Leaf. And she may be called one of the "Children of the Forest," but she's over two hundred years old.

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fuck, this is going to become a real thing. I just know it

[Phoenix Dark]

[ZephyrFate]

Just as soon as the show stops objectifying 90% of its female characters!

[Himu]

Fairs fair! The next time I see a pair of boobs I want to see a cock in between those tits.

[Diunx]

  Stop messing with our game of tits.

[Himu]

Nope. Creepy said "wide audience"

[Human Snorenado]

Nope. Creepy said "wide audience"

As a straight, white, CIS male I of course meant a wide audience of straight, white, CIS males.

Life ain't fair, and right now HBO isn't showing cack. Deal with it, sister.

[ZephyrFate]

HBO sucks for that. Well, they did air two seasons of Enlightened tho. I guess we're even, HBO.

[Himu]

Spartacus showed dick, tits, man chest, balls, vagina, AND ass. The egalitarian show we all deserve

[Phoenix Dark]

Could HBO show titty fucking? It's not penetration.

I don't think I've see an erect penis on HBO. Unless I'm forgetting something from Rome.

[brawndolicious]

I don't think anybody wants to see erect genitals in something with a story. I know I don't.

[Mandark]

Could HBO show titty fucking? It's not penetration.

I don't think I've see an erect penis on HBO. Unless I'm forgetting something from Rome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mull_of_Kintyre_test

[ZephyrFate]

I don't think anybody wants to see erect genitals in something with a story. I know I don't.

I don't want to see vagina, either, then.

[Bebpo]

Been catching up on the TV show this week.  Halfway through S3, pretty surprised how fast they're blowing through Dany's & Jon's arcs.  Not really sure why they feel they have to move so fast where Dany gets to a city one ep and leaves the next ep.  Also Dany's arc seems way less gory/violent than I kind of expected.  Overall it's pretty ok thanks to some of the good actors elevating the adaptation like Tywin/Tyrion/Hound/Jamie.  Joffery seems less annoying this season than I remembered him being.

Hopefully gonna be caught up for the next S4 ep!

[brawndolicious]

I don't think anybody wants to see erect genitals in something with a story. I know I don't.

I don't want to see vagina, either, then.

I don't mind seeing them, it's the fact that the actor is aroused that is uncomfortable.

[ZephyrFate]

I don't think anybody wants to see erect genitals in something with a story. I know I don't.

I don't want to see vagina, either, then.

There's no equality here. Sorry brehs.

I disagree, so whatever. HBO needs more dong. It's honestly a bit sexist, and the double standards present are fucked.

FWIW, an erect penis can occur randomly and doesn't always signify someone is currently happy about what's going on. It's a physical stimulus, not always a mental/emotional one.

[Phoenix Dark]

The lack of penis vs the casual female nudity is pretty jarring. But it comes directly from the producers. Neil Marshall said that while he was directing his episode of S2 a producer (Benioff or Weiss) came up to him and essentially told him he needed a naked girl in some shots. Which is how the naked chick was added to the drinking scene with Bronn.

That plus the show's continuance of sexposition just makes it clear they have no trust in the audience, and continues to seperate the show from great shows; same with some of the almost comical violence, like Tyrion chopping a guy's leg off with one swing of an axe.

I don't want to sound like a herb, I'm just saying I'd rather have less (but balanced) nudity than one sided hyper nudity.

[huckleberry]

If HBO is going to show tits and bush then they should show dong.

...but thats all GoT needs is more sex scenes to take away from the story. Its borderline ridiculous how those scenes are shot and PD is absolutely right about how they feel about the audience.

[Human Snorenado]

Judging by the increasing ratings, they appear to have judged their audience correctly

[Himu]

I've never seen anyone ever say they watch the show for the sex scenes. And in fact, showing dong would probably increase ratings even more.

[CatsCatsCats]

I would rather see less female nudity than more male nudity, and you're kidding yourself if you think dong would drive ratings up. A huge portion of viewers are bros.

[Himu]

The fanbase is actually about split 50-50.

And none of that stopped Spartacus from having a scene where they see which slave has the biggest cock. if you're going to have exploitation, do it right and make it egalitarian.

[CatsCatsCats]

Even if it's 50/50, I would speculate you would cause more douche bros to stop watching than you'd gain in cock hungry women. Besides, more women like to see titties than guys like to see cocks. Personally I could go without a sex scene in every fcking episode.

[Himu]

No sex scene every ep ISNT going to happen so might as well pray for something possible!

[AdmiralViscen]

i like to look at tits

[ZephyrFate]

I don't think showing dong would have any negative effect on GoT's viewership. And if bros turn away, then they're just insecure about their own superbly small dicks