Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi

[Squiddy]

I have to admit, as great as most of the stuff was, there were some iffy scenes here and there (like when the wildings first popped out of the woods - looking like 50 wildings top).

[Human Snorenado]

http://www.thecoli.com/posts/8766869/

Obarth has abandoned us

[CatsCatsCats]

I'm a bit worried about the amount of shit they're going to have to cram into the next episode, we're probably getting less than I want to see or it will be rushed :/

[Himu]

everything can be resolved in one episode

[Human Snorenado]

Yup

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-goat herder brings daughter's bones, dany locks up the 2 dragons and drogon escapes
-10 minutes in king's landing to take care of that bit
-15 minutes at the wall
-some bran shit
-stoneheart reveal

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[Squiddy]

I predict this:

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5 minutes of Brienne/Pod running into the brotherhood, taken capture.
5 minutes back to Jon doing shit
5 minutes of goat herder bringing his son's bones to Dany
15 minutes of wall stuff, manniss, etc
5 minutes of Hound getting sick and Arya leaving after wistfully looking at her Bravoosi coin or some shit.
14 minutes of Tyrion escaping and one-shotting papa & hoe
5 minutes of Dany locking up dragons, fancy scene
10 minutes of Bran shit
1 minute dedicated to one shot of Stoneheart turning around to face teh captured Brienne & Pod.

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[Mandark]

But also

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Arya leaving The Hound.

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[helios]

You guys are forgetting minutes devoted to naked people

[Squiddy]

But also

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Arya leaving The Hound.

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Yep, yep, forgot about that one.

[Phoenix Dark]

I don't see why they feel like every arc has to be dealt with in the finales. Seemed like they could have finished some stuff in episode 8, mainly

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Arya's arc. Having a two minute scene of them getting to the Eyrie and laughing at the news of Lysa's death seemed dumb. Few more minutes and they could have resolved that, and then in the finale just have Arya hop on a boat to Braavos.

I agree with the decision to hold off Stannnis btw. Having him save the day would have felt like a rehash of the Blackwater ep, where a last minute arrival resolves the battle.

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[Mandark]

Not every arc.  I'm not expecting to see Sansa/Littlefinger or Reek/Ramsey in the finale.  But yeah, there's a lot of stuff to deal with.  I'm fine with it.

Just wish it didn't bump into Finals game 5.  More proof Martin wasn't planning this far ahead.

[Phoenix Dark]

I think we'll see Sansa/LF actually.

AFFC

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I get the impression we'll get that LF master plan scene.

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[Brehvolution]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.richapps.hodorkeyboard.app

[Phoenix Dark]

 

[ZephyrFate]

i haven't watched him since his Ned Stark reaction but his "Otakuuuuuuuu Assseemmmmblee!" opening thing made me stop watching right there.

[Phoenix Dark]

Dude is such a baby. I didn't like the first 12 minutes of the episode either but it was aces after that.

[Human Snorenado]

I worry that Obarth died or something 

[Phoenix Dark]

I worry that Obarth died or something 

Nah he said he's done with reviews because people are too demanding

[Human Snorenado]

[Diunx]

I worry that Obarth died or something 

Nah, he dapped some of my dope posts 

[Squiddy]

I can't wait for some Khaleesi action tonight.
I wonder what will happen with Jon, much excite.

[helios]

On tonight's episode of Game of Thrones

[ZephyrFate]

ASOS spoilers:

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no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit

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[cool breeze]

awesome episode

[Squiddy]

This episode only sucked if you're a booktard.

It was fucking amazing.

We had motherfucking skeleton undeads, fucking elven ancients throwing fireballs, Bran going Hodor, that J-dude being stabbed by aforementioned skellies, motherfucking dragons and the mother of dragons throwing them in chains, speaking of dragons - burnt to crisp children (Drogon ain't about that), Stannis riding into the north not giving a fucking shit.

AND MOTHERFUCKING BRIENNE VERSUS THE HOUND.
Arya with that fucking cold stare at the end, I swear to god, she'll do great over there in Braavos.

ASOS

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No one who watches this gives a shit about Tysha or whatever the fuck she's called, or that Stoneheart wasn't in this episode as opposed to next season's first episode.

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[ZephyrFate]

o ok.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

someone spoiled the ending to me earlier on Wow and i didnt bleive them cuz it sounded so dumb but it was true. wow. what a shit epi

[Human Snorenado]

I thought the ending felt kind of abrupt, too. If that was all they were going to show in that episode, I would have ended it with the dragons.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

The editing in the Jon Snow parts were atrocious.

[Squiddy]

I really liked the ending, it was an up-beat ending that makes is ponder Arya's upcoming Braavosi adventures.
It is in a way also a conclusion of her arc, discarding the vengeance she was so focused on to realize a long-lost dream (I loved the Arya-Brienne back and forth convo before things got nasty, so cute seeing the two girls talk about being fighters).

[Himu]

It is in a way also a conclusion of her arc, discarding the vengeance she was so focused on to realize a long-lost dream

[Phoenix Dark]

ASOS spoilers:

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no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit

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Side note: I can't stand book readers whose first reaction to every fucking episode is "x wasn't in it/done wrong." No comment on the quality of the acting, no comment on scenes that worked, no comment on an interesting change they liked, nothing. Just "this thing I know about that non-viewers don't know about didn't happen."

I haven't seen the episode, but I did hear that YOU KNOW WHAT wasn't in it, which is quite surprising. That being said I'd imagine it'll be the final shot of S5's premier, and if not it's being completely cut.

[cool breeze]

ASOS spoilers:

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no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit

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Side note: I can't stand book readers whose first reaction to every fucking episode is "x wasn't in it/done wrong." No comment on the quality of the acting, no comment on scenes that worked, no comment on an interesting change they liked, nothing. Just "this thing I know about that non-viewers don't know about didn't happen."

I haven't seen the episode, but I did hear that YOU KNOW WHAT wasn't in it, which is quite surprising. That being said I'd imagine it'll be the final shot of S5's premier, and if not it's being completely cut.

realistically, how much would've been in the episode.  inadvertently read two things:
 
ASOS? / SOMEBOOKSPOILERIDON'TKNOWWHICH spoilers:

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this Stoneheart shows up and Brienne doesn't fight the hound? or something?

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[Squiddy]

Lmao, the reddit outrage is hilarious:

So I fucking downloaded a LSH background for my computer like fucking years ago now at season 1. My husband only watches the shows so I've held on to it waiting in anticipation, using this shitty background of Dany and Drogon (which is awesome, but old now) so today I thought was the day and I was like, fuck yeah I'll use this after tonight and I fucking saved it on my desktop and I was gonna use it tonight fucking finally and ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME!!! One more fucking year!!!!? And my husband totally doesn't get it, he's like just use it baby I won't even know probably. Yes you will fucking know. WtF!!! Thanks for listening, my only book reading friend doesn't watch the shows.

[Tasty]

Tywin killed on the crapper

[ZephyrFate]

ASOS spoilers:

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no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit

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Side note: I can't stand book readers whose first reaction to every fucking episode is "x wasn't in it/done wrong." No comment on the quality of the acting, no comment on scenes that worked, no comment on an interesting change they liked, nothing. Just "this thing I know about that non-viewers don't know about didn't happen."

I haven't seen the episode, but I did hear that YOU KNOW WHAT wasn't in it, which is quite surprising. That being said I'd imagine it'll be the final shot of S5's premier, and if not it's being completely cut.

side note: I don't give a fuck

Other side note: This was a pretty great episode. The Leaf/Bloodraven part was such a great scene in the books and it was adapted well. "But you will fly..."

[Human Snorenado]

ASOS spoilers:

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no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit

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Side note: I can't stand book readers whose first reaction to every fucking episode is "x wasn't in it/done wrong." No comment on the quality of the acting, no comment on scenes that worked, no comment on an interesting change they liked, nothing. Just "this thing I know about that non-viewers don't know about didn't happen."

I haven't seen the episode, but I did hear that YOU KNOW WHAT wasn't in it, which is quite surprising. That being said I'd imagine it'll be the final shot of S5's premier, and if not it's being completely cut.

I have a theory about that...

ASOS/AFFC

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I think they've decided to cut Stoneheart out completely. If they were going to use her, they would have set up a potential reveal pretty easily by having someone mention at council meeting in King's Landing that a gang of brigands were going around hanging people. No mention. Makes me think they've decided to cut it. I hope they do, because Zephyr's head would fucking asplode.

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[TakingBackSunday]

goddamit andrex, the fuck

anyhoo

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Little disappointed with Tyrion's escape.  None of the heated dialogue between Jaime and Tyrion regarding Tysha, which I really wanted to see.  I guess I should have expected that, however...they never really played Tysha up.  It was all Shae, all the time in the show.  Still though, I feel like that sculpts a fairly different character for Tyrion going forward in the show than in the books.  In the show, Tyrion at least knows he has a supporter in Westeros...but in the book, he has a certain anger and malice that I feel won't be reflected in the show.  Also, wtf at Varys boarding the ship?

Don't give a shit about Stoneheart because thus far the books have not given any sort of weight to her story.

Brienne vs. the Hound was awesome

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[etiolate]

Brienne v Hound was pretty good. I love how it broke down into a straight street fight at the end. People on my FB crying because Tyrion was rocking some Chris Brown in the castle.

[Tasty]

goddamit andrex, the fuck

[etiolate]

spoilers you pod child

[ZephyrFate]

As far as seasons go, that was definitely my second favorite (first season I think was basically pitch perfect). Next season will be a real test for the showrunners to either adapt a much larger plot or make more things out of whole cloth, which they are hit and miss with.

[Tasty]

spoilers you pod child

We're supposed to mark spoilers for episodes that have already aired?

Why don't you spoiler that Brienne fights the Hound then.

[Himu]

Great episode! Hound v Brienne is fantastic even if it didn't happen in the books. Wonderful choreography. Also, speeding up Brienne's crap adventures

ASOS spoilers:

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no Stoneheart was fucking bullshit

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Side note: I can't stand book readers whose first reaction to every fucking episode is "x wasn't in it/done wrong." No comment on the quality of the acting, no comment on scenes that worked, no comment on an interesting change they liked, nothing. Just "this thing I know about that non-viewers don't know about didn't happen."

I haven't seen the episode, but I did hear that YOU KNOW WHAT wasn't in it, which is quite surprising. That being said I'd imagine it'll be the final shot of S5's premier, and if not it's being completely cut.

I have a theory about that...

ASOS/AFFC

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I think they've decided to cut Stoneheart out completely. If they were going to use her, they would have set up a potential reveal pretty easily by having someone mention at council meeting in King's Landing that a gang of brigands were going around hanging people. No mention. Makes me think they've decided to cut it. I hope they do, because Zephyr's head would fucking asplode.

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This is good, because Stoneheart sucks anyways.

[Human Snorenado]

I kind of agree. I think it would make for a neat "oh shit" moment, but as far as storytelling goes, I much prefer

ADWD

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Manderly's revenge against the Freys/Boltons

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[Phoenix Dark]

Real talk, the Brienne Hound fight was way better than the poorly edited Mountain Viper fight. Less quick edits and it had some weight to it, whereas IMO the Mountain Viper fight felt tacked onto the episode. Also Jon's fight with Styr from episode 9 was also better.

I liked this episode overall, although I'm struck by the decision to go for an uplifting finale and sort of whitewash some of the content by making it lighter. I understand the Tyrion/Jaime changes so I'm not going to bitch about that; obviously I prefer the book version.

Didn't like the skeletons, especially this


It kind of seemed comical, whereas in the book it felt like a scene from a horror film. Also didn't like how the Children look, or how she threw the fireball but I suppose that's nitpicky. Bloodraven looked great IMO, perfectly done in a way that wouldn't look ridiculous. Great last scene with him telling Bran he'd fly.

STANNIS STANNIS STANNIS


Nice dialogue between Jon and Stannis as expected. Really enjoyed the scene between Jon and Tormund as well.

Arya's scene with the Hound was the best scene IMO. Great acting from both, truly harrowing stuff. It'll be interesting to see how the show handles things from here on out with respect to her.

Finally Tyrion. I knew they'd make it self defense, however I thought they'd have him also accidentally stab her instead of do the strangling. Great last scene with Tywin. I'm going to miss Charles Dance.

[Tasty]

Sandor fucking Clegane losing to Brienne cheapens his character. He's the goddamn Hound, not Loras Tyrell. It worked to fix a book deviation, but I'm not a fan.

It  was different in the book? How? (Spoilers are fine.)

[Himu]

I'm surprised that zephyr doesn't care about

ASOS

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the fact that Jaime tells Tyrion about the truth about his wife, and they have a falling out and that leads to Tyrion killing Tywin. The tv versions way of events made things far less convincing. Tyrion had little reason to kill Tywin in this case, I think. At least compared to the book. It felt abrupt and forced. Also, no "wherever whores go" but oh well. It was still a good scene, but not as emotionally packed as it was in ASOS.

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[Phoenix Dark]

I kind of agree. I think it would make for a neat "oh shit" moment, but as far as storytelling goes, I much prefer

ADWD

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Manderly's revenge against the Freys/Boltons

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I don't give a shit, I want John Goodman to play him next season, with a bad British accent. Dude just completely took over that book with quotables for days and world class baking skills.


ADWD

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“So young," said Wyman Manderly. "Though mayhaps this was a blessing. Had he lived he would've grown up to be a Frey.”

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[Himu]

Sandor fucking Clegane losing to Brienne cheapens his character. He's the goddamn Hound, not Loras Tyrell. It worked to fix a book deviation, but I'm not a fan.

It  was different in the book? How? (Spoilers are fine.)

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they never run into each other. Brienne didn't even know about the hound having arya. By this point in the book, Brienne hasn't even set off yet. Brienne's journey is meanderning in A Freast for Crows, and full of filler, so they cut on it by having her interact with Arya rather than have her go on an aimless journey. In the book, in the riverlands, the Hound is injured in the fight at the inn with Poliver and co. which was shown earlier this season. That was at the end of the book originally. In that fight, the Hound is gravely injured. They plan on going to set sail, but he's too injured to go on. Everything else plays like exact: Arya doesn't kill him, takes him money, and sails for Braavos.

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[Himu]

Sandor fucking Clegane losing to Brienne cheapens his character. He's the goddamn Hound, not Loras Tyrell. It worked to fix a book deviation, but I'm not a fan.

It doesn't. Brienne is a real knight. Much better than

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those bums in the inn or some shit.

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[Mandark]

I'm surprised that zephyr doesn't care about

ASOS

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the fact that Jaime tells Tyrion about the truth about his wife, and they have a falling out and that leads to Tyrion killing Tywin. The tv versions way of events made things far less convincing. Tyrion had little reason to kill Tywin in this case, I think. At least compared to the book. It felt abrupt and forced. Also, no "wherever whores go" but oh well. It was still a good scene, but not as emotionally packed as it was in ASOS.

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Eh, I like the TV version better.  Shae's response to his story was on the money.  A woman who barely escapes being raped then rewards her rescuer with sex?  Sheeeeeeit

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[Phoenix Dark]

My favorite Bloodraven art. I understand and like what they did in the show though.

I'm surprised that zephyr doesn't care about

ASOS

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the fact that Jaime tells Tyrion about the truth about his wife, and they have a falling out and that leads to Tyrion killing Tywin. The tv versions way of events made things far less convincing. Tyrion had little reason to kill Tywin in this case, I think. At least compared to the book. It felt abrupt and forced. Also, no "wherever whores go" but oh well. It was still a good scene, but not as emotionally packed as it was in ASOS.

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Eh, I like the TV version better.  Shae's response to his story was on the money.  A woman who barely escapes being raped then rewards her rescuer with sex?  Sheeeeeeit

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asos

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But she wasn't almost raped, it was an act. Tyrion acknowledges he was young and couldn't put 1 and 1 together at the time so I dunno what the argument against the book version is. I think the book take is superior but I'm not surprised it was cut. It fits the general goal of making Tyrion more likable, which is what the show has been doing from the beginning.

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[Mandark]

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Haven't read the books for years and years, so I'm quite fuzzy on the details.  The way I remember Jaime's revelation is that Tyrion's wife wasn't a whore and the meeting hadn't been arranged by Jaime. So she had been threatened (with rape I think?) and rescued at that point.  Unless Jaime's lying or she was running an independent con?  But I don't remember anything to that effect.

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[Himu]

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Haven't read the books for years and years, so I'm quite fuzzy on the details.  The way I remember Jaime's revelation is that Tyrion's wife wasn't a whore and the meeting hadn't been arranged by Jaime. So she had been threatened (with rape I think?) and rescued at that point.  Unless Jaime's lying or she was running an independent con?  But I don't remember anything to that effect.

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his father had his entire guard take turns fucking her and then had Tyrion finish the job. Why? Because he told Tyrion she was a whore. Shape was not his wife, Taesha was. When Tyrion confronts Tywin where his wife went, Tywin said,"wherever whores go." Tyrion killing his father for Taesha was the whole justification. Without knowing the Taesha revelation, Tyrion has little reason to do it.

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[Phoenix Dark]

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Haven't read the books for years and years, so I'm quite fuzzy on the details.  The way I remember Jaime's revelation is that Tyrion's wife wasn't a whore and the meeting hadn't been arranged by Jaime. So she had been threatened (with rape I think?) and rescued at that point.  Unless Jaime's lying or she was running an independent con?  But I don't remember anything to that effect.

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she was paid to pretend like two men were chasing her, she wasn't threatened. Jaime later told Tyrion she was a whore he hired, but he eventually confessed she wasn't a whore: she was a peasant girl who genuinely liked Tyrion.

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[Himu]

I'm surprised that zephyr doesn't care about

ASOS

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the fact that Jaime tells Tyrion about the truth about his wife, and they have a falling out and that leads to Tyrion killing Tywin. The tv versions way of events made things far less convincing. Tyrion had little reason to kill Tywin in this case, I think. At least compared to the book. It felt abrupt and forced. Also, no "wherever whores go" but oh well. It was still a good scene, but not as emotionally packed as it was in ASOS.

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Eh, I like the TV version better.  Shae's response to his story was on the money.  A woman who barely escapes being raped then rewards her rescuer with sex?  Sheeeeeeit

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I'm confused by this post. Shae doesn't say anything in that scene tonight. Am I missing something?

[Mandark]

It was her response after hearing Tyrion's story about his marriage, when they're doing a drinking/truth game with Bronn before the battle against the Stark forces, back in Season 1.  Dunno if it was in the books or not.

[Bebpo]

Thought it was pretty good.  Arya/Hound scene was definitely the highlight (vs. Tyrion/Tywin in the book).  Kind of like that the last 2 eps have really slowed the pace of the show/book ratio.  Most of the arcs are at the end of ASOS, so S5 should still be 90% AFFC/ADWD mix. 

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LSH is probably S5 cliffhanger as she'll try to hang Brienne at the end of S5 after Brienne spends the season wandering on a version of her AFFC quest.  Then S6 has Brienne meeting Jaime and taking her to LSH by mid-season along with battle for winterfell and meeren and Jon death.  Really feeling that AFFC/ADWD material will last through mid-S6 right now besides Bran (who may just be doing book flashbacks from tree viewpoint) and Sansa (whose gonna be the one TWOW material or filler). 

Looking forward to seeing next season just to see how they change up stuff for the better.  Like Arya's training is SO.BORING in the book despite readers expecting it to be AWESOME ASSASSIN GUILD STORY at the end of ASoS, so maybe they can make that more interesting.  Also Stannis x Jon next season should let show Stannis be cool again.

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[Himu]

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Arya's training is awesome. Disagree heavily, bebs.

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