Game Of Thrones S4: Her name isn't Khaleesi

[Phoenix Dark]

why not just post the quotes

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“I think we’re gonna start out with a big smash with the two enormous battles,” Martin says. Presumably one of those battles refers to the clash between Ramsay’s army and Stannis’s forces in the North (the outcome of which was described in Ramsay’s letter in ADWD—perhaps falsely?—but not actively shown), while the other takes place across the narrow sea when Yunkai attacks Meereen in an attempt to overthrow Daenerys.

In addition, Martin says, “We have more deaths, and we have more betrayals. We have more marriages.” Let the speculation begin.

As he’s noted before, Martin says the Dothraki are coming back into the story (“in a big way”), and he says “a lot of stuff is happening at The Wall.”

I also asked Martin about one extremely eagerly anticipated character pairing: Tyrion and Daenerys. What will their interaction be like?

“Well, Tyrion and Dany will intersect, in a way, but for much of the book they’re still apart,” he says. “They both have quite large roles to play here. Tyrion has decided that he actually would like to live, for one thing, which he wasn’t entirely sure of during the last book, and he’s now working toward that end—if he can survive the battle that’s breaking out all around him. And Dany has embraced her heritage as a Targaryen and embraced the Targaryen words. So they’re both coming home.”

That “coming home” should get fans excited—unless Martin was merely speaking metaphorically. (The Targaryen words are “Fire and Blood.”)

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http://shelf-life.ew.com/2014/06/26/george-r-r-martin-winds-winter-tease/

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Pretty sure Martin is indeed speaking metaphorically. Both characters were "out of character" in ADWD, as Martin mentioned - Tyrion was suicidal, depressed, and on the verge of a breakdown; meanwhile Dany shunned her conqueror ancestry in order to play politics with enemies. By the end of ADWD but stumble across personal realizations, and get out of their "funk." So I think when he said both are coming home he meant both are returning to who they initially were. Tyrion the sly survivor, Dany the conqueror.

Sounds like Dany is indeed going back to free the crones. Marriage wise...Sansa and Harry? Aegon and Arianne? Betrayal...I'd be money that Randyl Tarly will switch sides after meeting with Connington.

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[Steve Contra]

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If he is indeed speaking metaphorically and they are not actually coming home in the next book look out for book 8.

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[Phoenix Dark]

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I think they'll head for Westeros by the end, perhaps not together though. But not right away. He pretty much confirms that Dany is heading back to Vaes Dothrak, as seen in the HOTU vision. I wonder how she's going to hear about Meereen getting fucked up lol.

The marriage I forgot about: Devan Lannister and his Frey bride, at Riverrun. Which the BWB has infiltrated (and Nymeria's pack just happens to be within the area). I have a feeling that's gonna get ugly.

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[Phoenix Dark]

book talk below, specially a theory video

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I don't even believe most of this stuff yet it blew my mind


Quite an elaborate theory that mixes a bunch of shit, some old and some new. The most interesting thing to me was the Brave Companions shit, and the idea that Oberyn may have founded them. While reading ASOS and AFFC I didn't understand why such a seemingly religious group of fascists would kill septons and burn down churches. But it makes a lot of sense if the goal was to frame someone. We've seen this done before (such as when Ramsay burned Winterfell) so it's not a new concept.

I don't believe everything was the carefully planned genius of Doran Martell, that's too convenient. But clearly he's in quite a good position to benefit from Robert Strong being exposed, whether it happens during or after Cersei's trial.

He completely loses me with the "Quentyn is alive" shit. Yea it could be true, people have been arguing about it since ADWD came out but god I hope that's bullshit. IIRC Elio has said it's one of the dumbest theories. But I will say this: for such a cautious, careful man...Doran's plan for Oberyn seemed dangerous as fuck, and he wasn't prepared AT ALL to carry it out.

One thing not in the video...Qyburn being a Martell ally would explain how Doran found out about Cersei's plot to assassinate Trystane. Doran claims he has loyal followers in King's Landing feeding him information, and who else could it be? Cersei seemingly only shared the plan with Swann, however she would have had to include Qyburn to set everything up (since he is in charge of espionage)

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[Squiddy]

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I think they'll head for Westeros by the end, perhaps not together though. But not right away. He pretty much confirms that Dany is heading back to Vaes Dothrak, as seen in the HOTU vision. I wonder how she's going to hear about Meereen getting fucked up lol.

The marriage I forgot about: Devan Lannister and his Frey bride, at Riverrun. Which the BWB has infiltrated (and Nymeria's pack just happens to be within the area). I have a feeling that's gonna get ugly.

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He needs to write an 8th book then.
Who the fucks want

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only one book of Dany fucking about in Westeros? The show viewers certainly won't stand for that.

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[ZephyrFate]

As a book reader, I'm ok with that outcome.

[El Babua]

ADWD

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I think Dany being in Westeros for one book was the plan all along. So yeah, just don't have her arc be dragged on like ADWD.

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Edit: Keep forgetting this isn't the ASOIAF thread lol

[Phoenix Dark]

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ADWD

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When the series was thought to be a trilogy, Martin planned on having Dany land in Westeros in the second book (ADWD), so she'd only be in Westeros for one full book (the third). Seems like that is still the plan. I guess she'll burn the shit out o Khal Jhaqo, take his khalasar, free Vaes Dothrak, and then learn that Meereen is under attack. I'd imagine she'll fly back to deal with that and then...leave? She can either leave with the Iron Fleet or the Volantis ships, which are carrying a bunch of slave soldiers that I'd imagine will switch sides.

She could get the Westeros by the last chapters...but I have a feeling that won't happen. In order to make it work I'd imagine the first third of the book would be Dany's Dothraki shit and the Meereen battle; second would be Dany returning to Meereen and dealing with the aftermath; third would be planning, a long absence in chapters, then one where she sees Westeros. Aegon got from Volantis to Westeros in one book, Dany could do the same if Martin skips the day-to-day aspect of such a journey. I just doubt he'll do it that way...

Still betting leper status that "Aegon" will be king by the end of TWOW.

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[Phoenix Dark]

Preparations for Game of Thrones season 5 filming in Seville and Osuna under way
http://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/04/preparations-game-thrones-season-5-filming-seville-osuna-way/

location pics

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[Squiddy]

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ADWD

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When the series was thought to be a trilogy, Martin planned on having Dany land in Westeros in the second book (ADWD), so she'd only be in Westeros for one full book (the third). Seems like that is still the plan. I guess she'll burn the shit out o Khal Jhaqo, take his khalasar, free Vaes Dothrak, and then learn that Meereen is under attack. I'd imagine she'll fly back to deal with that and then...leave? She can either leave with the Iron Fleet or the Volantis ships, which are carrying a bunch of slave soldiers that I'd imagine will switch sides.

She could get the Westeros by the last chapters...but I have a feeling that won't happen. In order to make it work I'd imagine the first third of the book would be Dany's Dothraki shit and the Meereen battle; second would be Dany returning to Meereen and dealing with the aftermath; third would be planning, a long absence in chapters, then one where she sees Westeros. Aegon got from Volantis to Westeros in one book, Dany could do the same if Martin skips the day-to-day aspect of such a journey. I just doubt he'll do it that way...

Still betting leper status that "Aegon" will be king by the end of TWOW.

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Yeah, but when it was a trilogy, Dany would essentially spend 33% of the series in Westeros. He turned it into a Septalogy without increasing the proportional time Dany would spend in Westeros - which is really lame as someone who's really mostly in this shit to see dragons reck Westeros.

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[Bebpo]

Preparations for Game of Thrones season 5 filming in Seville and Osuna under way
http://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/04/preparations-game-thrones-season-5-filming-seville-osuna-way/

location pics

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Daznak Pit & Water Gardens?

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[Phoenix Dark]

yup

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[helios]

[CatsCatsCats]

Context for that?

[Rufus]

Context for that?

To people who want him to finish the books before he dies.

There:

[Squiddy]

Schriftsteller sounds more awesome than what it is.

[Rufus]

It translates to "script setter", so no, not really.

[Phoenix Dark]

hmmmm, S5 is currently filming and this location is being used...


http://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/23/signs-point-game-thrones-season-5-filming-underway/


full book spoilers

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Tower of Joy flashback?


I...doubt it, but it would be very interesting. The show will have to handle R+L=J eventually, I'd imagine this upcoming season will at least begin the hints. While I understand why the show has ignored most of the foreshadowing and prophesies in the books (viewers are already struggling to remember people's names, throwing more complicated stuff on top wouldn't work) I still feel they've written themselves into a corner in which they could be accused of shark jumping. Revealing Jon's parentage or "Aegon" will just make people look back and say hey, this was never hinted at or insinuated. They really wasted a golden opportunity to kill two birds with one stone in S2 with the HOTU. That could have addressed Jon and "Aegon" similarly to the way the book did (but with different imagery, obviously).

I'd imagine the tower will likely be used for either Arianne's imprisonment or it'll be CGI'd into King's Landing for when Cersei burns the Tower of The Hand.

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[Phoenix Dark]

for the show, sure. for the books nah.

[Tasty]

It'll be like when you find out you're a Hylian in OOT. It really cheapens the whole story.

[Phoenix Dark]

omfg

[huckleberry]

Only $30?   

[Bebpo]

hmmmm, S5 is currently filming and this location is being used...

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http://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/23/signs-point-game-thrones-season-5-filming-underway/


full book spoilers

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Tower of Joy flashback?


I...doubt it, but it would be very interesting. The show will have to handle R+L=J eventually, I'd imagine this upcoming season will at least begin the hints. While I understand why the show has ignored most of the foreshadowing and prophesies in the books (viewers are already struggling to remember people's names, throwing more complicated stuff on top wouldn't work) I still feel they've written themselves into a corner in which they could be accused of shark jumping. Revealing Jon's parentage or "Aegon" will just make people look back and say hey, this was never hinted at or insinuated. They really wasted a golden opportunity to kill two birds with one stone in S2 with the HOTU. That could have addressed Jon and "Aegon" similarly to the way the book did (but with different imagery, obviously).

I'd imagine the tower will likely be used for either Arianne's imprisonment or it'll be CGI'd into King's Landing for when Cersei burns the Tower of The Hand.

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My first thought is the

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Monastary where Cersei is imprisoned and shamed before her naked walk.

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[Phoenix Dark]

For those unaware, it's a lore and history book written from the perspective of a few maesters, some of whom are biased (similar to how the Princess & The Queen novella was written from a pro-Aegon II view). And some pages will be blotted out with ink spills on "accident" to withhold information we're not supposed to know about yet, like the Tragedy at Summerhall.

[chronovore]

http://imgur.com/a/c3013

[Phoenix Dark]

casting news coming out of the Comic Con panel.

DORAN MARTELL

Alexander Siddig

fuck yes


http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/07/25/game-of-thrones-season-5-cast/
Johnathan Pryce

[Phoenix Dark]

The cast sheet lists Trystane as Doran's heir so I guess Quentyn has been cut. Also looks like Arianne has been cut. I'm assuming Ellaria will basically replace her role? Makes sense, and I called it last year.

This isn't the full casting but I really think a lot of characters are getting cut. The only noteworthy characters I'd imagine remain to be cast (or are being withheld for spoiler reasons) are:

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Griff and Young Griff, ie Connington and "Aegon." I bet the Greyjoys are shitcanned.

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[Phoenix Dark]

One more post I swear. Martin revealed who will be the prologue character in TWOW:

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Jeyne Westerling. RIP

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[toku]

whew Siddig!

[Snake]

Alexander Siddig is one of my biggest dreamcastings come true. And a relative big name for the High Sparrow is great news for that storyline.

[helios]

Winter comin' yo!

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"Yo, that's ten points on the dollar, sucker," Cheese Wagstaff intoned, feeling the colour rise to his cheeks. Redwyne's men were all snickering in the market square. They thought him a fool, then. The man's shiny plate far outmatched Cheese's own scuffed and dirty Jordans, far outshined his loose, white shirt emblazoned with Method Man's crest.

"You deign to tell me what price you set for the King's supply, ser? You whelp! I will have satisfaction!" Redwyne drew his notched longsword to gasps of surprise from onlookers and amusement from his own men. Rheumatic Lin gave him a supportive nudge at his swordarm, ready to be his second. "Draw, you dog, you miserable whoreson spawn!"

Cheese had had enough. He tossed the sealed container back at his man Ed Bizzy, staring sheer waves of hate at the pompous knight in front of him.
"My momma? Shit, nicca, now it's on."
With that, Wagstaff drew his glock 9 from beneath his house colours and shot three times, point blank. One round flew wide, blowing a chunk off a porter boy's ear, the next rebounded off of Redwyne's lobstered steel guantlet, jerking his arm back. The third punctured his enameled plate, through ribs and lung and viscera.

The maester's eyes widened, full of stunned horror. The talks had failed. There was no way they could re-up in time for the coming battle. Blood poured, thick and dark from Redwyne's wound.

"Yeah, that's some red wine for your boys now, motherfucker," Cheese snorted, motioning to his crew to get to their horses. He backed up slowly, piece still smoking in the late autumn twilight.

"Milk..." rasped the knight, as his attendants rushed to him. "Poppy..." he strained.
The maester rushed to his side, glancing between the young men from the Summer Isles and his liege lord's right hand man.
"Please!" he cried. "You've done your harm today, give us a dram, so that he might not suffer."

Cheese switched the safety on his firearm and motioned once more. He tossed the container full of the sweet poppy's milk towards the dying man.
"Price just went up, suckers. Fifteen points on the dollar. Let them know." He chuckled, turned, and mounted up his chrome-plated destrier. They left the dying knight and his entourage in the middle of the street, knowing that they had succeeded in this, the latest move in the neverending game.

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[Phoenix Dark]

My mental picture was moreso similar to Ghassan Massoud, but Siddig pretty much looks like a younger version of Massoud so it's perfect to me.

All the casting is cool thus far, as usual. Obara is more naturally beautiful than in the books but who cares: they got a really good actress.

And Jonathan Pryce as the High Sparrow? Dope.

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although he's a bit too old to be Howland Reed

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[Phoenix Dark]

George R.R. Martin won’t be writing an episode for Season 5, talks The Winds of Winter prologue

George R.R. Martin will be setting aside a little more time to work on the next installment of his book series, ‘The Winds of Winter’. He revealed yesterday at San Diego Comic-Con that for the first time, he will not be writing an episode of Game of Thrones for the upcoming season.

In a new interview with Vulture, Martin says that he will be taking Season 5 off “because I have this book to finish.”

He’ll also be clearing out his schedule, and won’t be making a trip to the set of Game of Thrones until next year. “I might make it over there early next year, but I’ve got to finish the book The Winds of Winter. So I’m making the trips I’m already obligated to make, but I’m not adding any new trips at this time. So I don’t think I’m going to do a set visit this year, sadly.”

http://winteriscoming.net/2014/07/26/george-r-r-martin-wont-writing-episode-season-5-talks-winds-winter-prologue/

2015 brehs, I can feel it. This wait really doesn't feel anything like the AFFC/ADWD ones to me.

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Martin spoke with Zap2It’s Terri Schwartz about his comments during yesterday’s panel that Robb Stark’s book wife, Jeyne Westerling, would be making an appearance in ‘The Winds of Winter’ prologue. He reveals that she won’t be the POV character, and that he may just break his own rules in terms of the fate of those who appear in his prologues. He also talks about fans finding hints for future plot points throughout the books, and expands on why he won’t be writing an episode for Season 5.

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[ZephyrFate]

#t=200s

pls stop gurm

[huckleberry]

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2014/aug/11/george-rr-martin-game-of-thrones-gay-sex

:zephyrcry

[Phoenix Dark]

It could happen since

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Connington is gay

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although I doubt it, since he doesn't seem interested in banging anyone anymore.

[ZephyrFate]

Bran's storyline has been cut out of S5 entirely.

Rumors that

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Aegon and Victarion are not appearing either, with Jorah contracting grayscale and possibly Gendry as a replacement for Aegon.

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Do not like those changes at all.

[Phoenix Dark]

I heard the Bran thing, but the rest is new to me. Link?

all books

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Really shocked by the Bran news, and as of right now I'm more apt to believe that Hodor isn't in the season, but Bran is; we're basing all of his off the actor who plays Hodor saying he's not in this season. It doesn't make sense: why wouldn't they just film some made up shit, or delve into TWOW spoilers but avoid major stuff (I'm pretty sure Bran's chapters will reveal Jon's parentage in TWOW).

Not buying that Aegon isn't in the season either. It would make sense for them to avoid discussing him considering it would be a massive spoiler for show watchers to learn a (alleged) new Targaryen will show up. Similarly they kept secrecy all around the Ramsay Snow role in S3, going so far as to name him "Boy" in casting calls and the scripts. I'd imagine something similar is happening with Aegon.

One concrete thing we know: Mace Tyrell (replacing the role of Harys Syft in the book) is going to Braavos to treat with the Iron Bank. Meryn Trant is coming along with him which is interesting, as it could mean they'll

TWOW preview chapter spoiler:

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film the Mercy chapter, and have Arya kill Trant (since Raff The Sweetling isn't in the show).

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[Kara]

Dr. Bashir in GOT.

[Phoenix Dark]

set pic

[ZephyrFate]

best scene.

[I'm a Puppy!]

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is that? is that? it is isn't it? I can't wait.

[Dickie Dee]

I'm drawing a blank here - can someone clue me in to what that (probably) is?

[Phoenix Dark]

I'm drawing a blank here - can someone clue me in to what that (probably) is?

affc/adwd

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The House of Black and White, where Arya trains with the Faceless Men, skinchanges cats, etc. There are rumors that the show is going to bring back Jaqen Hagar to take the role of the Kindly Man who trains Arya in the book.

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[helios]

[Phoenix Dark]

https://gfycat.com/LegalRealisticIndianabat



spoiler pictures for S5

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http://imgur.com/a/upR1V
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2jf0vy/spoilers_all_more_dorne_pics_from_spain/

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[El Babua]

https://gfycat.com/LegalRealisticIndianabat



spoiler pictures for S5

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http://imgur.com/a/upR1V
http://www.reddit.com/r/asoiaf/comments/2jf0vy/spoilers_all_more_dorne_pics_from_spain/

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Clicked on the spoilered pic first. For a second, I thought "why is Doran wearing a tie?", since I imagined him as some fat sultan looking guy in a wheelchair.

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[Phoenix Dark]

Lost's Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje Joins Game of Thrones

Adewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje, of Lost and Thor: The Dark World fame, has signed on to a role in the upcoming fifth season of Game of Thrones.

According to The Hollywood Reporter, not much has been revealed about the actor's place on the HBO show, but it is said that the actor's character isn't in the books and goes by the name of Malko.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/10/17/losts-adewale-akinnuoye-agbaje-joins-game-of-thrones#disqus_thread



Malko...new character? Or did they just change the name of

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Moqorro


"Dragons old and young, true and false, bright and dark. And you. A small man with a big shadow, snarling in the midst of it all."

We know Volantis is in, so we'll get Tyrion and Jorah seeing the R'Hollor temple, seeing the red priests etc. At which point I guess Malko will join them - assuming he's Moqorro from the books.

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[toku]

What are the chances of this being solid PD-san? I know TT games are hit and miss for most but I loved both seasons of TWD and Wolf Among Us. Might impulse buy this shit this weekend while it's still $26

[El Babua]

First teaser for season 5:

https://twitter.com/GameOfThrones/status/537352703173607424

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Why'd they have to make Bloodraven look so whack in the show though!?

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[Phoenix Dark]

Short teaser: https://twitter.com/GameOfThrones/status/537352703173607424

What are the chances of this being solid PD-san? I know TT games are hit and miss for most but I loved both seasons of TWD and Wolf Among Us. Might impulse buy this shit this weekend while it's still $26

We'll see. Honestly I'm more interested in this type of GoT/ASOIAF game than a straight up action RPG, which would probably suck. Granted I'd love a big ass Skyrim type game but that's not going to happen.

Ty Franck, Martin's assistant, is helping Tell Tell develop the game and handle lore so who knows, maybe it'll be cool. The main house in the game exists in the books, but apparently the game is going to create a rival family for them that isn't in the books. You'll play characters in the Forrester house, including someone in Essos. Why a member of a minor Northern house would be in Essos...we'll see lol.

[king of the internet]

He was exhiled for banging some noble chick. There's a character guide out there. Mobile.  :'(

There it is: http://m.imgur.com/a/r3qT2

[Himu]

I think GOT Telltale game has potential to be good to great. They've been on a roll for a while now.

[toku]

[Bebpo]

The graphics are actually so bad it's distracting because seeing these versions of real life actors/actresses with creepy shitty animation is just...disturbing.

[chronovore]

http://variety.com/2015/film/news/game-of-thrones-to-hit-imax-screens-1201393367/

[Phoenix Dark]

dat glimpse of

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