Game

[Himu]

They did the same thing with game boys, no?

PURPLE.

[Cerveza mas fina]

N64 had some dope system seller genre defining games though, unlike the wii u.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

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Nintendo also pretty much copied off of Apple when designing the DS Lite and the Wii.

Nintendo "innovation" = copying off of Apple

[tiesto]

And Apple "innovation" was copied from Braun, your point?
http://gizmodo.com/343641/1960s-braun-products-hold-the-secrets-to-apples-future

[Tasty]

Good design is good design.

[benjipwns]

I thought that was ripping off play it loud game boys

The thing I'll always remember about that was when word first came out that Nintendo was preparing to release "colored Game Boys" and some people naturally assumed they were talking about the screen.

[Human Snorenado]

This aggression will not stand

[Phoenix Dark]

good time to buy Nintendo's stock, brehs. Buy low sell high

[brob]

Sound financial advice PD, but I put all my money in dogecoins and I don't think any exchange is accepting them (yet).

[radioheadrule83]

I've actually been thinking of buying some. Could see a rebound from this position certainly... Friday morning was the best time for NTDOY and NTO by the look of it, and really... Feb 2013 was even lower than it is now. Was that pre 3DS price cut or something?

The stock at the height of the Wii days was something like 70+, I can't see it going back that high unless they really do go IOS or something

[Cerveza mas fina]

If you really want to make money easy on the stock exchange buy oil in the summer and sell in the winter.

Don't speculate on a toy company.

[archnemesis]

If there were any sure ways to make money on the stock market then everyone would do it. Don't expect to gain more money than the average growth.

[Rufus]

For most mortals stocks are only useful to keep their money from depreciating too much.

[archnemesis]

Sure, but if you don't have any inside information you might as well put your money into a mutual fund.

[Rufus]

Yup.

[bachikarn]

Sure, but if you don't have any inside information you might as well put your money into a mutual fund.

Index fund*

[mjemirzian]

Maybe I'll just skip the Wii U.

[Tasty]

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2014/01/nintendo-mobile/

ckohler spittin' that truth

[Stoney Mason]

One publishing executive, working on perhaps the biggest franchise in games today, recently told CVG that he felt Nintendo "just doesn't care about US developers". He claimed that not only is there a language barrier when studios submit development queries up the chain, but that his studio had to wait days for Nintendo to reply.

"Nintendo was dead to us very quickly," one EA source told me when asked about why the publisher fell out with Nintendo so soon after committing to the system.

"It became a kids IP platform and we don't really make games for kids. That was pretty true across the other labels too. Even the Mass Effect title on Wii U, which was a solid effort, could never do big business, and EA like Activision is only focused on games that can be big franchises".

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/446277/blog/nintendo-must-reinvent-itself/

[Mr. Gundam]

Every single WiiU ad I've seen has been targeted at kids. Every single one.

[Tasty]

EA like Activision is only focused on games that can be big franchises

Biggest problem with the industry summed up so succinctly.

[Stoney Mason]

I don't know any gamer outside of forums above the age of let's say 18 who owns a Nintendo console. Which is not to say they don't exist at all. But that they lost that demographic in significant numbers a long time ago. It's a kid's console and a kid's brand for demographic and marketing purposes. And outside of the Wii which bucked that trend because it was a Hammer Please don't hurt em crossover success this has been the established pattern for a long time now.

[Stoney Mason]

The amount of those people who exclusively want to play Mario and Zelda on a console is not enough to sustain one as they are painfully finding out now.

[cool breeze]

otoh kids games seem to sell well on the wii u.  I think rayman and maybe just dance are the two wii u games to sell as well or better than other consoles.
 

[helios]

All of the kids are playing GTA Online

[Human Snorenado]

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2014/01/nintendo-mobile/

ckohler spittin' that truth

People who like what Nintendo still does sure like to keep saying Nintendo should just keep doing that

Too bad there are fewer of you every year, ask anyone with two brain cells at Nintendo if that worries them or not (assuming you can find someone who meets that criteria)

[Cerveza mas fina]

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2014/01/nintendo-mobile/

ckohler spittin' that truth

Holy shit talk about that kohler missing the point

[Himu]

I don't know any gamer outside of forums above the age of let's say 18 who owns a Nintendo console. Which is not to say they don't exist at all. But they that lost that demographic in significant numbers a long time ago. It's a kid's console and a kid's brand for demographic and marketing purposes. And outside of the Wii which bucked that trend because it was a Hammer Please don't hurt em crossover success this has been the established pattern for a long time now.

you don't even know someone with a 3ds or ds?

[Himu]

yeah i've been buying nintendo systems as second/third console since n64 days. it is never my main console. just a system to play nintendo stuff on.

[Stoney Mason]

I don't know any gamer outside of forums above the age of let's say 18 who owns a Nintendo console. Which is not to say they don't exist at all. But they that lost that demographic in significant numbers a long time ago. It's a kid's console and a kid's brand for demographic and marketing purposes. And outside of the Wii which bucked that trend because it was a Hammer Please don't hurt em crossover success this has been the established pattern for a long time now.

you don't even know someone with a 3ds or ds?

I know lots of kids who own a 3ds or ds. Almost no grown people.

And this isn't a diss. I'm not saying Nintendo makes kids games. I'm saying the perception is that Nintendo makes kids games. Which only drives away the core mainstream gamer dude. Go to any dorm or frat in America and I bet the number of Playstation and Xboxes dwarf the number of Nintendo consoles.

Now this wasn't an issue with the Wii because that was a once in a lifetime aberration of a success. But if they aren't going to be able to do that everytime, then they are in trouble at least on the console side. They will essentially be a declining gamecube every generation.

[Himu]

I'm not suggesting it was a diss. I'm just surprised you don't know any people. Your gamer circle is different from mine I guess. My gamer circle all had 3ds systems and we all have nintendo consoles for secondary systems.

[Stoney Mason]

I'm not suggesting it was a diss. I'm just surprised you don't know any people. Your gamer circle is different from mine I guess. My gamer circle all had 3ds systems and we all have nintendo consoles for secondary systems.

I think your group of friends probably represent a group that is similar to the type of people that exist on neogaf and thebore. I think there is a large swath of people who are the real mainstream who are under-represented on forums.

None of this really reflects either way on the enjoyment one receives from the system and games a person owns. The Wii U I'm sure is some people's favorite console of all time. I just think its part of a declining demo of Nintendo fans that the original Wii made people forgot. At least in this country.

[Himu]

Oh completely. it's hard to forget that gamers like my circle just don't represent the majority of game fans.

[Raban]

None of this really reflects either way on the enjoyment one receives from the system and games a person owns. The Wii U I'm sure is one person's favorite console of all time. I just think its part of a declining demo of Nintendo fans that the original Wii made people forgot. At least in this country.

Fixed.

[Stoney Mason]

lol. Really I don't have much to shit talk about the Wii U. I mean I think I'm one of the few people on here who really dig the controller. And like most gamers I think Nintendo generally makes excellent stuff. I miss playing their stuff. Not enough to purchase Nintendo home consoles exclusively for that anymore but you get my point.

Not that I think going third party is the right move for them but I really would buy their software if I could get it on other platforms.

[Damian79]

Ill just post a rumor and the response to the rumor from Kotaku here.

http://www.nintendonews.com/2014/01/nintendo-fusion-could-be-nintendos-next-gen-hardware-name/

Domain Name: nintendofusion.com
Registry Domain ID: 98528369_DOMAIN_COM-VRSN
Registrar WHOIS Server: whois.melbourneit.com
Registrar URL: http://www.melbourneit.com.au
Updated Date: 2013-04-02T09:18:58Z
Creation Date: 2003-05-29T19:33:46Z
Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2014-05-30T05:33:46Z
Registrar: Melbourne IT Ltd
Registrant Name: Nintendo of America Inc.
Registrant Organization: Nintendo of America Inc.
Registrant Street: 4820 150th Avenue NE
Registrant City: Redmond
Registrant State/Province: WA
Registrant Postal Code: 98052
Registrant Country: US
Registrant Phone: +1.4258822040
Registrant Phone Ext:
Registrant Fax: +1.4258823585
Registrant Fax Ext:
Registrant Email: webmaster@nintendo.com
Name Server: DNS1.NINTENDO.COM
Name Server: DNS2.NINTENDO.COM
Last update of WHOIS database: 2014-01-21T12:17:01Z

NOTE: nintendofusion.com was originally purchased because of the Nintendo Fusion Tour — a touring rock music and video game festival sponsored by Nintendo of America. The tour began in 2003, which explains the date of the domain name purchase. This may, or may not be, related to the tipped information below regarding Nintendo’s possible hardware. Additionally, the Nintendo Fusion Tour was last active in 2006.

Now, onto the other stuff.

The following information comes from our source, of whom which has provided us with possible hardware specifications related to Nintendo’s new hardware systems, said to be named “Fusion DS” and “Fusion Terminal,” respectively. I want to reiterate that everything below may not be guaranteed so please take that into consideration when viewing the information.

Fusion DS

CPU: ARMv8-A Cortex-A53 GPU: Custom Adreno 420-based AMD GPU
COM MEMORY: 3 GB LPDDR3 (2 GB Games, 1 GB OS)
2 130 mm DVGA (960 x 640) Capacitive Touchscreen
Slide Out Design with Custom Swivel Tilt Hinge
Upper Screen made of Gorilla Glass, Comes with Magnetic Cover
Low End Vibration for Gameplay and App Alerts
2 Motorized Circle Pads for Haptic Feedback
Thumbprint Security Scanner with Pulse Sensing Feedback
2 1mp Stereoptic Cameras
Multi-Array Microphone
A, B, X, Y, D-Pad, L, R, 1, 2 Buttons
3 Axis Tuning Fork Gyroscope, 3 Axis Accelerometer, Magnetometer
NFC Reader
3G Chip with GPS Location
Bluetooth v4.0 BLE Command Node used to Interface with Bluetooth Devices such as Cell Phones, Tablets
16 Gigabytes of Internal Flash Storage (Possible Future Unit With 32 Gigabytes)
Nintendo 3DS Cart Slot
SDHC “Holographic Enhanced” Card Slot up to 128 Gigabyte Limit
Mini USB I/O
3300 mAh Li-Ion battery
Fusion Terminal

GPGPU: Custom Radeon HD RX 200 GPU CODENAME LADY (2816 shaders @ 960 MHz, 4.60 TFLOP/s, Fillrates: 60.6 Gpixel/s, 170 Gtexel/s)
CPU: IBM 64-Bit Custom POWER 8-Based IBM 8-Core Processor CODENAME JUMPMAN (2.2 GHz, Shared 6 MB L4 cache)
Co-CPU: IBM PowerPC 750-based 1.24 GHz Tri-Core Co-Processor CODENAME HAMMER
MEMORY: 4 Gigabytes of Unified DDR4 SDRAM CODENAMED KONG, 2 GB DDR3 RAM @ 1600 MHz (12.8 GB/s) On Die CODENAMED BARREL
802.11 b/g/n Wireless
Bluetooth v4.0 BLE
2 USB 3.0
1 Coaxial Cable Input
1 CableCARD Slot
4 Custom Stream-Interface Nodes up to 4 Wii U GamePads
Versions with Disk Drive play Wii U Optical Disk (4 Layers Maximum), FUSION Holographic Versatile Disc (HVD) and Nintendo 3DS Card Slot
1 HDMI 2.0 1080p/4K Port
Dolby TrueHD 5.1 or 7.1 Surround Sound
Inductive Charging Surface for up to 4 FUSION DS or IC-Wii Remote Plus Controllers
Two versions: Disk Slot Version with 60 Gigs of Internal Flash Storage and Diskless Version with 300 Gigs of Internal Flash Storage
So, until Nintendo officially reveals their next-gen hardware lineup, don’t get too carried away with what we have presented in this article. The domain name, and information provided for the domain name, is entirely real. The hardware name and technical hardware specifications, along with some questionable code names, is another story.

Kotaku's response.

Here at Kotaku, we love insider info. We like getting information both from random tipsters and our own sources. And because of those people—to whom we grant anonymity in our reporting—we're able to tell you stories you might not otherwise know about, and give you all the details about games like Titanfall and Alien: Isolation before they're even announced.
 
Of course, we're not the only ones: other outlets have also reported some terrific scoops using secret sources.
 
But the danger of anonymous sourcing is that when not handled judiciously, it can allow false information to spread.
 
Take "Nintendo Fusion," the recently-rumored "next Nintendo console" that you might have seen reported on major gaming websites like Destructoid, The Escapist, and VentureBeat. The rumor is this: in the wake of a rough 2013, Nintendo has started development on their next console, Nintendo Fusion, which will have two parts, called the Fusion DS and Fusion Terminal. There's also a giant list of specs for the system, including some questionable bullet-points like "Thumbprint Security Scanner with Pulse Sensing Feedback" and "SDHC 'Holographic Enhanced' Card Slot up to 128 Gigabyte Limit."
 
The timing is suspect, given that news just came out about Nintendo's rough 2013, and given that the company's last console launched just over a year ago. But while the list is full of red flags, the premise is certainly possible—plenty of pundits and observers would love to see Nintendo use its mighty developer talent for one hybrid console, rather than two. (Nintendo, when asked about the rumor, told me they don't comment on rumors and speculation.)
 
There's one bigger problem with this rumor: sketchy sourcing.
 
Where did all this come from? The above gaming sites all cite this article, written by Kevin McMinn for a website called Nintendo News, which says that this Nintendo Fusion rumor came from "an anonymous tip from one of [their] very reputable sources." Nintendo News presents the specs and information as a possibility, not a guarantee, and they warn readers to be skeptical about what's written there.
 
But when reached by e-mail last night, McMinn told me he doesn't actually know who gave him this Nintendo Fusion story. Although he believes that this is a "very reputable source," McMinn said he doesn't know who they are or how they might be privy to so many specific details about a new Nintendo console.
 
"I know little to nothing about the person who sent the email with the information," McMinn said. "All I know is that the person has been proven to have inside information and has given details to other sources as well; not just Nintendo News."
 
McMinn didn't elaborate, but said he hasn't published everything he's received from this anonymous tipster in the past, and what's more, he seems to regret allowing a rumor like this to spread.
 
"I'm really not sure why the Internet is blowing up right now over this," McMinn told me. "I've made it completely clear on numerous occasions throughout the article that the information is not 100% guaranteed and for readers to take caution when viewing the contents. I'm at a point now where I'll probably just keep tips to myself and not publish the info. This one article has been nothing more than a pain in the neck, really."
 
But the rumor might not have even started at Nintendo News. Yesterday, a website called GaminRealm also published those same specs, complete with one hell of a warning:
 
"Before I go any further though, let me make a disclaimer: Take all of this with a huge grain of salt. I'm not going to lie and make it out to seem like I have inside industry sources, because I don't. The information you're about to see comes from an anonymous origin, and an acquaintance of mine brought this to my attention – I'm just being honest with you. Yep, it's one of those situations."
In other words, GaminRealm's tipster could have been anyone ranging from Shigeru Miyamoto to a 14-year-old 4channer. Both websites list the same spec breakdown for this alleged Nintendo Fusion, and neither writer seems to know who provided the information in the first place.
 
It's not our norm to ask other reporters about their sources, but when a rumor is spreading and the origin of that rumor seems potentially suspect, we have to ask for any context that will help us size things up and discern what's worth sharing with our readers. So in an attempt to distinguish fact from fiction and untangle the confusing sourcing here, I asked GaminRealm founder Marlon Reid for more context.
 
"Our information came from one of our own sources whose information I cannot disclose," Reid told me in an e-mail. "I am well aware of [Nintendo News]. Unfortunately for them, my reporter was the first to have that info and has had that info for a while now."
 
Reid wouldn't elaborate on who sent GaminRealm the information or why they put a disclaimer like that, insisting in a follow-up e-mail that he "can not disclose source information," although the article itself makes it quite clear that writer Jahmai Williams did not know who sent in this info or whether it's real or not.
 
Meanwhile, Nintendo News's McMinn said he isn't sure whether the rumor he reported is legitimate.
 
"With regard to the hardware specifications, I can't give you an accurate answer," he told me in an e-mail. "I don't know enough about the listed hardware to provide you with an educated answer. For that reason alone, I cannot tell you if I think it holds any weight."
 
This is how the sausage gets made—from one or two anonymous e-mails to some of the largest websites in gaming. Flimsy rumors like Nintendo Fusion illustrate just how strange some of this stuff can get.

http://kotaku.com/tracking-down-the-odd-rumors-about-nintendos-next-cons-1506566012

[tiesto]

I dunno, I wouldn't count Nintendo out of the hardware business just yet. Trends change and they've got a history of making seemingly innocuous things that catch absolute fire. Considering how 'safe' MS and Sony have been lately, I miss that kinda huge risk taking in gaming.

What would be so beneficial to Nintendo on phones anyways (which is where everyone wants to see them go)?

[Human Snorenado]

Eh. It's kind of impossible to argue that other than the aberration that was the Wii, they've been on a pretty consistently downward slope as far as share of the home console market since the SNES. They haven't shown an ability to stake a large claim to a stable share of the market as it exists; they've shown that once, they can catch lightning in a bottle. Which strategy sounds good to you?

[tiesto]

For all that we know, Nintendo could bomb on smartphones, their games getting crowded out in the market or highly compromised to meet phone pay models... I have no stake in Nintendo as a stockholder and have no idea what they'll do, but I can see them to be the type of stubborn Japanese old guard company who will stick through till they don't have any $ left.

[Himu]

Eh. It's kind of impossible to argue that other than the aberration that was the Wii, they've been on a pretty consistently downward slope as far as share of the home console market since the SNES. They haven't shown an ability to stake a large claim to a stable share of the market as it exists; they've shown that once, they can catch lightning in a bottle. Which strategy sounds good to you?

N64, aside from being cart based, did a lot right tbf. It wasn't until gc that I think things started getting bad.

[cool breeze]

I dunno, I wouldn't count Nintendo out of the hardware business just yet. Trends change and they've got a history of making seemingly innocuous things that catch absolute fire. Considering how 'safe' MS and Sony have been lately, I miss that kinda huge risk taking in gaming.

What would be so beneficial to Nintendo on phones anyways (which is where everyone wants to see them go)?

3DS and Wii U are arguably safer than the competition.  Both are basically a traditional power bump + whatever was popular two years ago.

Not that I disagree.  I think that's why I want Valve's whole mess to work out.

[Human Snorenado]

Eh. It's kind of impossible to argue that other than the aberration that was the Wii, they've been on a pretty consistently downward slope as far as share of the home console market since the SNES. They haven't shown an ability to stake a large claim to a stable share of the market as it exists; they've shown that once, they can catch lightning in a bottle. Which strategy sounds good to you?

N64, aside from being cart based, did a lot right tbf. It wasn't until gc that I think things started getting bad.

They absolutely got their asses kicked by the PSX that gen compared to what they used to do. I'm not dreaming this, am I? I'm pretty sure sales numbers reflect that.

[Stoney Mason]

The thing is back in the old days, even if they got outsold on the console side, they were still crazy profitable. So in a bottom line sense it didn't matter. Now not so much.

I mean I think you can trace them not keeping up with the market and the effect that would eventually have way down the road but that's a more speculative discussion.

[Himu]

Eh. It's kind of impossible to argue that other than the aberration that was the Wii, they've been on a pretty consistently downward slope as far as share of the home console market since the SNES. They haven't shown an ability to stake a large claim to a stable share of the market as it exists; they've shown that once, they can catch lightning in a bottle. Which strategy sounds good to you?

N64, aside from being cart based, did a lot right tbf. It wasn't until gc that I think things started getting bad.

They absolutely got their asses kicked by the PSX that gen compared to what they used to do. I'm not dreaming this, am I? I'm pretty sure sales numbers reflect that.

everyone got their butt beat by psx. the point is that n64 was an actual alternative compared to what nintendo has...now. And the sales reflected this. n64 still sold VERY well.

[Olivia Wilde Homo]

How many consoles in 3rd place have been financially viable?  The PS4 will outpace the Wii U by the end of this month if they haven't already and the Bone will be ahead of the Wii U probably by March.

[Human Snorenado]

I didn't say the N64 wasn't profitable or didn't have 40% (just spitballing, probably less) of the US marketshare for that gen. My point is that Nintendo stopped being one of the big swaggering dicks of the console industry with the SNES, and the only time they managed to get back in the game was by making an underpowered gimmick machine that people forgot they owned after 2 years.

I also think focusing on profits when talking about Nintendo is missing the forest for the trees. Sure, they keep making money (until very recently at least) and have a fuck ton stashed away... what the fuck good is that doing them or you?  Not a fucking thing when they cheap out on hardware, don't have a solid launch lineup, are negligent at best or outright hostile at worst towards developing relationships with 3rd parties, and still in the 90's as it regards online play. 

Basically, they're not worth admiring because you like pokemanz, playing dress up with dumb fucking animals, or playing mascot brawl 37: button mash prime. This is like stanning for a chick that used to be hot and shits herself now. People can do better.

[Himu]

I dunno. 3ds had an amazing year, partly due to nintendo support. I know you don't like handhelds, but nintendo did a really great job last year and was easily the best publisher/developer of the year.

[Himu]

The problem Nintendo has is staying current with modern gaming tastes outside of japan. I think they had that in the 90's with the n64 with titles like goldeneye and perfect dark. I really would like to see a nintendo take on caller duty or halo or uncharted or some story-based game that is catered to people outside japan.

[Trent Dole]

Yeah those two games made by their non-JP studio Rare who they don't have anymore...

[Himu]

They've got retro, and Nintendo has money. They could probably find a way if they really wanted to.

[tiesto]

The problem Nintendo has is staying current with modern gaming tastes outside of japan. I think they had that in the 90's with the n64 with titles like goldeneye and perfect dark. I really would like to see a nintendo take on caller duty or halo or uncharted or some story-based game that is catered to people outside japan.

I'm the opposite, I feel if you want western-oriented FPS or linear cinematic games there are 2 other platforms that have more than enough of it going around... Nintendo should concentrate on what they do best and it's not those types of games.

In fact, I argue with Wii U's awful marketshare in Japan, they have done even less to cater to Japan... outside of Monster Hunter, Wonderful 101 and Sonic there's not really a whole lot going for it with Japanese 3rd parties, there are definitely more western 3rd party games on the platform.

[Himu]

I'm only saying that I would to like to see Nintendo's spin on it. Also, Goldeneye's existence didn't stop Nintendo from releasing new games in classic nintendo franchises. So your argument is kind of odd. Plus, as games like Vanquish have shown. Japanese spin on western genres can result in very, very awesome software.

[Human Snorenado]

Console gaming in Japan is apparently dead as dogshit just in general, though, so that's not really surprising.

[cool breeze]

Console gaming in Japan is apparently dead as dogshit just in general, though, so that's not really surprising.

I am curious about what the most expensive console game meant for the Japanese audience is.  If I had to guess I'd say the yakuza or tales series.

[Human Snorenado]

I think the issue is that Nintendo could do more, but doesn't. Or maybe doesn't know how to anymore. It's kind of sad and frustrating.

And can anyone seriously tell me that Nintendo is currently on a path to doing anything other than satisfying their increasingly small and statistically irrelevant core fan base with what they're doing?

[Himu]

Console gaming in Japan is apparently dead as dogshit just in general, though, so that's not really surprising.

I am curious about what the most expensive console game meant for the Japanese audience is.  If I had to guess I'd say the yakuza or tales series.

final fantasy.

[magus]

I think the issue is that Nintendo could do more, but doesn't. Or maybe doesn't know how to anymore. It's kind of sad and frustrating.

And can anyone seriously tell me that Nintendo is currently on a path to doing anything other than satisfying their increasingly small and statistically irrelevant core fan base with what they're doing?

Is anyone in the video games industry?

eeeehhh but nintendo is a big company that has a ship that is going to hit an iceberg that they need to steer, it's not like they are konami and can or are willing to outsorce everything they have to pachinko companies, otherwise we wouldn't be talking about them every odd numbered week in the first place

[Damian79]

It's the exact same illness that killed the American comic book companies.  Pandering to a shrinking fanbase with no plan or idea of how to pull in anyone new.  It works until that fanbase leaves the hobby or dies off, and then you're right fucked.  Those kids who are playing tablets or smart devices right now instead of the consoles/computers we played when we were kids?  What makes anyone think those kids aren't going to just keep on playing on those devices as they grow up?  This isn't all of Nintendo's problem by any stretch of the imagination (I don't even think it's a tenth of what their problem is), but it is a factor in their present woes, and it's something that is absolutely coming down the line to your favorite gaming company.

Glad to see people here getting it.  People are going to migrate to "i" devices sooner than they think .

[D3RANG3D]

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=756524

[Human Snorenado]

Look at all them fegs. Unban me, EviLore. They must be reckoned with, and I'm the one to do it.