Has anyone ever gone full nostalgia distinguished mentally-challenged fellow mode

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i mean full on crt to play ur old games, no mods or anything?

[CatsCatsCats]

If you count keeping a small tube TV aroun to still be able to play duck hunt, yes

[MyNameIsMethodis]

If you count keeping a small tube TV aroun to still be able to play duck hunt, yes

ya this counts. are snes and genesis even playable on HDTV?

[Raban]

This is almost exclusively how I play old games. I have a little flatscreen CRT that has incredible composite video quality. Anything I play on my LCD has got to be component or I won't even bother.

I bet the people who don't do this are the first to shit on the graphics of old games. I played MGS HD on 360 and MGS3S on PS2 through component back to back, and it looked better on PS2. Far superior visual effects.

If you count keeping a small tube TV aroun to still be able to play duck hunt, yes

ya this counts. are snes and genesis even playable on HDTV?

The cables are really expensive but I'm pretty sure both systems can output an RGB signal.

[ToxicAdam]

No, I'm pretty sure I would get the same feeling I got when I watched old A-team episodes.

"I can't believe I wasted my life playing/watching this shit"

[tiesto]

My plasma does a good enough job of upscaling so I don't need a CRT, although I might go ahead and get one one day...

I thought you meant gone full nostalgia as in only play older games, I think that's about 95% what I play nowadays.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I've been trying to track down a cube to go 100% old school. Would like to pick up some old football games too for my genesis and saturn; besides Sensible Soccer any reccomendations?

[Raban]

Gamecube looks great in RGB but good luck getting the cable. Better to just get an old Wii and the cable for that. It's the same hardware, anyways

[Rahxephon91]

I have a CRT still set-up for PS2, Dreamcast, and Xbox.

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

Totes. I have a dinky (by today's standards!) 21" Trinitron in my office for retro shit. Have an NES, SNES, Saturn and Dreamcast hooked up to it; fun times.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

dat trinitron 

[Rufus]

I still have a tiny CRT I keep around to play pre-PS360 systems on. Mostly PS2 these days. Some titles I play on PC via emulators. I wanted to do that with all titles that don't have any emulation issues, but ended up playing even many well emulated ones on real hardware. Dunno why.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

has anyone managed to emulate xbox 1 yet?

[Arbys Roast Beef Sandwich]

I'm surprised nobody has even tried (?)

Isn't it pretty much a Pentium III-class PC?

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Maybe people just think theres no worthwhile games to play / everything is on GCN and PS2.

To that I say "where is Amped 2 and Voodo oVince?!?!?" :colbert

[fistfulofmetal]

I have a crt setup in my room which i use to play my snes when i feel so inclined.

[demi]

No, but the option is there. I have a bunch of old machines, and an older TV stuffed in the sun room. If I ever got my own place, I would probably dedicate an area to being the place to veg out.

[cool breeze]

I have a trinitron somewhere in my garage.  If I ever had a bunch of extra space I'd consider hooking it up but it ain't worth doing now.

The worst nostalgia ridden thing I do is is play PS1 games at normal resolutions.  Rendering those games to be super crisp in emulators somehow makes them look worse to me.  And old handhelds from time to time.

I'm surprised nobody has even tried (?)

Isn't it pretty much a Pentium III-class PC?

years back people tried but it didn't go anywhere.  it's a shame.  but I'm more surprised that n64 emulation has stagnated for almost a decade.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

I'm not a huge fan of emulators; they just never seem to "feel right". I dunno how to explain it, but just having them be like super emulated or something makes it all feel really off.

That said, does anyone have a decent spec guide for building a pc that can play most dolphin and pcsx2 games well? gotta build a new pc anyways soon

[cool breeze]

depends on the emulator.  like, zsnes and snes9x have been around forever and can run on any computer at the cost of accuracy.  BSNES is pretty much perfect (better than nintendo's virtual console emulators) but is far more taxing than you'd expect.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

woah theres something better than even zsnes? what makes it better anyways

[Fifstar]

I'm not a huge fan of emulators; they just never seem to "feel right". I dunno how to explain it, but just having them be like super emulated or something makes it all feel really off.

That said, does anyone have a decent spec guide for building a pc that can play most dolphin and pcsx2 games well? gotta build a new pc anyways soon

I think for Dolphin it's all about the CPU. Any proper videocard from the last couple of years will be enough, but some games don't run full speed on any cpu. An i5 4670 will run most games at decent enough speed probably.

[Raban]

woah theres something better than even zsnes? what makes it better anyways

More accurate emulation.

What you're describing is a real thing. Video games aren't like any ol' computer program. The hardware for older consoles is often proprietary and the games are written specifically for that hardware. No matter how close emulators get, they're just that: emulators. It's fundamentally not the same thing as having the real hardware rendering the game right in front of you.

EDIT: I'm okay with emulation for games that would be too unreasonable for me to play legitimately, but I try my damndest to play the real thing. I'd give anything to get a NeoGeo AES and play shit like Windjammers or SamSho 2 in RGB

[MyNameIsMethodis]

That would explain it then. Sucks they can't capture that magic perfectly

[demi]

Nothing beats an original. Anyone who says otherwise is probably a stinky poor.

[Great Rumbler]

Emus and DosBox all the way, guys.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

Is there a good site to keep up to date on all the emulators now a days anyways or do u guys just use gaf

[Rufus]

You can get awfully close, but as BSNES illustrates, you need surprisingly beefy hardware to do it.
PCSX2 does a fine job though. I played Persona 4 (with Japanese VO because ) that way and it was near flawless. Ugly UI scaling and some minor slowdown here and there because of my weak CPU, but no glitches or anything.

[tiesto]

Last time I checked, BSNES made it so that you needed to run some special chksum checker/restorer to get your ROMs working, thus meaning that any patched ROMS/translations won't work... all in the name of 'purity' in contrast to usability. Does this still happen on the latest BSNES? I'm using an old version and would like to play the Ys 5 patch soon.

[Positive Touch]

Nothing beats an original. Anyone who says otherwise is probably a stinky poor.

save states + no load times = much better experience

complaining about perfect console emulation = complaining about about perfect 60fps on pc

[Positive Touch]

Last time I checked, BSNES made it so that you needed to run some special chksum checker/restorer to get your ROMs working, thus meaning that any patched ROMS/translations won't work... all in the name of 'purity' in contrast to usability. Does this still happen on the latest BSNES? I'm using an old version and would like to play the Ys 5 patch soon.

iirc I tried ys 5 and smt1 a few weeks ago and had no issues

[MyNameIsMethodis]

it seems to only load .sfc files which is p dum

[Himu]

Shenmue I+II via emu shit on playing on dreamcast. Dreamcast versions have a lot of slow down. Emulated, I've never had a frame drop. Playing the original is overrated.

[Raban]

it seems to only load .sfc files which is p dum

You can force it to load any type, just select "Import file..." I believe.

[Rufus]

save states + no load times = much better experience

Yeah, fuck looking for save points.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

ya I got it to work; just have to use the romconverter it comes with. Turtles in Time gets 40 fps for me

[demi]

Stinky poors up in here. Pee-yew

[cool breeze]

yeah I don't like abusing quicksaves but being able to stop when you want without losing progress is great.  Wii virtual console would auto save where you left off and that was good enough.  And 3ds/wii u quicksaves take ~10-15 seconds, which is enough of a bother that you don't do it frequently.

[Steve Contra]

I like playing 8/16-bit games on the original hardware just to avoid the temptation of save stating my way through.  Save states change the difficulty of a game dramatically.  I don't blame anyone for using them, but that kind of bullshit is part of why I go back to that generation to begin with.

Save states are bullshit.

[Positive Touch]

  how bout practice some damn self-control? i dont use save states to content tourist my way through a game; i do it cuz i dont have the desire to sit there for 60-90 minutes and play thru a whole beat-em-up start-to-finish, or worse backtrack to a save point in an rpg while running from like 10 stupid random battles. with save states i can play thru a level or quit, then quit and come back later. if i get a game over i can still start over from the beginning, just like i would normally. its just that now i have the ability to stop playing when i want with no shitty penalty incurred.

[Positive Touch]

youre not cool unless you like sitting through a consoles boot up sequence

[HyperZoneWasAwesome]

Yeah, its awesome.

somebody in my apt building tossed a pristine Sony Trinitron (heavy as shit) a while back and I rescued it from the garbage pretty much just so I could dust off my Guncon.
gawrsh dang, its frigging wonderful.  And its bonkers how great PS2 games look through a component hookup on a good-ish CRT.  I forgot how much ass 480i could kick.

[DCharlieJP]

yup - i had full rgb outputting retro consoles (with the exception of the FC because i never got around to getting one) and - i dunno - at least 2-300 actual physical games on each platform and whole slew of unboxed games (which don't count)

at one point the wife and I had four arcade cabinets and maybe a high point of around 300 PCBs between us

and after we got rid of those we got a couple of RGB CRT Monitors.

Here - here's some older photos - i never got round to snapping everything but you get the idea : http://www.flickr.com/photos/dcharlie/sets/72157634862200989/

oh and now ? we have next to none of it - sold the damned lot and , as sad as it is, i have no regrets.

[Raban]

thank you, dcharlie, for masturbation material that will last me for the rest of this decade

[Shadow Mod]

I want a gamecube just to play Master Quest.

So yes I guess...

[DCharlieJP]

thank you, dcharlie, for masturbation material that will last me for the rest of this decade

i think the PS2 collection was my most outrageous excess - i think i got around the 800 game mark, this wasn't even at the high point :

[Great Rumbler]

WHY

[Raban]

Because the Playstation 2 is the greatest video game console to have ever existed, dog.

[Positive Touch]

there sure as shit aint 800 games worth playing on it

[Himu]

This is what I meant in that one thread where you're buying games just to buy games and you feel like you have to buy EVERYTHING instead of just sticking to what you like. I mean, I'm sure it's an amazing collection. But Jesus Christ, Charlie.

[Joe Molotov]

there sure as shit aint 800 games worth playing on it

Owning =/= Playing

[Himu]

there sure as shit aint 800 games worth playing on it

Combined with imports (and remember, charlie lives in japan), I can believe that number getting that high.

[MyNameIsMethodis]

i just wanna sit in dat wroom and watch old vidjas be played

[DCharlieJP]

let me clarify that a large portion of this is out and out collectionism and not "Gonna sit and play all these" - though i did make a dent into number of games played through to about 2004, life slowly took over and it -was- literally about collecting. I'm not making any bones about that.

It was a fun hobby to be honest - i lost money overall, but with some of the arcade boards and a few of the rarer games i made a pretty sizable profit. Still - it was excess - and ultimately the need for more space for the kids trumps being able to play native RGB retro games. That's obviously going to trump emulated options any day of the week, but the reality is my laptop/t100 has pretty much every game i owned retro wise and a ton of the PS2/GC/Wii ones and i no longer need to dedicate a huge chunk of space to it.

That said - if you ever woke up and thought "i just fancy trying something weird" or "i just fancy playing <game>" - chances are it was on the shelf - and that was a nice to have, but little more than that.

[tiesto]

I like collecting but I usually give games a fair shake... there are several games that sit unopened, unplayed... but I do get around to those games in my backlog. Currently playing Suikoden 3 which was sitting there since Christmas 2002, for instance. Most of what I try to collect are RPGs though lately I've been going for the NES kusoge (King's Knight! Hydlide!) and assorted obscure retro games like Clash at Demonhead or Firepower 2000.

I'm lucky since I'm at the point in my life where I have a relatively large (~1600 sqft) condo and I'm the only one living in it, so collecting isn't a problem.

[DCharlieJP]

yeah, our house prior to this one was 158 sq m and our new one is, techincally, 320 sq m - though split in two - but both of those sizes are pretty big by Japanese standards.

But hell, there's now 7 of us !