New Castlevania Lords of Turd 2 trailer (official thread of stink)

[SantaC]

gaf going bananas over graphics in favor of gameplay yet again. Mirror of Fate was a disgrace to the Castlevania series and yet MercurySteam keeps em coming. I guess sales >>> gameplay.

[Himu]

Says the chump who is going to buy this game.

[SantaC]

Says the chump who is going to buy this game.

i'll boycott it. Promise.

[Rahxephon91]

I'm gonna buy this and enjoy it.

 

[The Sceneman]

I'm gonna buy this and enjoy it.

 

You are part of the problem. It is YOUR fault Castlevania is DEAD

[Tasty]

Oscar's GOTY

[D3RANG3D]

The first game upset me.  But ever since they announced this would be the last CV game from these chumps, I've been less cranky.  Wherever the series goes after this, at least it didn't suffer long.

But they'll shit on Contra next :'(

[Rahxephon91]

I'm gonna buy this and enjoy it.

 

You are part of the problem. It is YOUR fault Castlevania is DEAD

Psh. Konami dosen't make games anymore. Its this or nothing.

[D3RANG3D]

Actually if Cox and Mercurysteam hadn't come along, we'd assuredly still be getting IGA's games, probably continuing down the Ecclesia/Rebirth path.  So it was actually this or something a lot closer to proper CV.

I really wish there were HD ports of Contra/Castlevania Rebirth on DD services :'(

[Himu]

Ecclesia was

it seems like we're fucked no matter what

[Himu]

i'm sure it was.

[SantaC]

Ecclesia was IGA going outside of the box a bit.  It wasn't the best, or even his best, but it was encouraging.  It was also a considerably better game than Castlespainia.

Ecclesia also ramped up the challenge a bit. Wasn't IGAs last castlevania game harmony of despair a success for Xbox live? Considering the low budget.

[The Sceneman]

Ecclesia was awesome. Harmony of Despair raked it in, I believe. Due to the $15 entry fee coupled with a large amount of high priced DLC, which the fans (myself included) ate up. It was an amazing game when the community was there

[SantaC]

Ecclesia was awesome. Harmony of Despair raked it in, I believe. Due to the $15 entry fee coupled with a large amount of high priced DLC, which the fans (myself included) ate up. It was an amazing game when the community was there

and yet it became IGA's swan song.

[Trent Dole]

Ecclesia was awesome. Harmony of Despair raked it in, I believe. Due to the $15 entry fee coupled with a large amount of high priced DLC, which the fans (myself included) ate up. It was an amazing game when the community was there

and yet it became IGA's swan song.

Motherfucking tragedy, that. SUCH a good game.

[StealthFan]

aw yiss. This is what the Castlevania series is now. No more of that sidescroller trash.

[The Sceneman]

aw yiss. This is what the Castlevania series is now. No more of that sidescroller trash.

[Bebpo]

That hurts less, since the series is currently dormant and it won't even be the first time shitty western devs poop all over Contra.

Best not be talking about Contra IV 

[Oblivion]

Well, on the plus side, that Carmilla chick looks stacked, so there's that.

[SantaC]

GameInformer gave the game a 6/10 and said it is worse than first one 

The Spanish experiment gotta be over. Time to bring back IGA.

[Joe Molotov]

Time to get some F2P IAP gaming up in that bitch!

[Purple Filth]

GameInformer gave the game a 6/10 and said it is worse than first one 

The Spanish experiment gotta be over. Time to bring back IGA.

On one hand its "game informer    they suck" but on the other its "game informer not giving their usual 8/9/10 so it must be really bad  "

[Joe Molotov]

GameInformer gave the game a 6/10 and said it is worse than first one 

The Spanish experiment gotta be over. Time to bring back IGA.

On one hand its "game informer    they suck" but on the other its "game informer not giving their usual 8/9/10 so it must be really bad  "

LoS 2 even has Gamestop exclusive DLC and a poster.

[Smooth Groove]

Is this game back in a medieval setting? 

After the 1st ending, I thought that the game was moving into the modern era. 

[demi]

Its both

[Purple Filth]

GameInformer gave the game a 6/10 and said it is worse than first one 

The Spanish experiment gotta be over. Time to bring back IGA.

On one hand its "game informer    they suck" but on the other its "game informer not giving their usual 8/9/10 so it must be really bad  "

LoS 2 even has Gamestop exclusive DLC and a poster.

that score with all that hatting? 

now i'm curious to see how it pans out at other places

[Bebpo]

So glad to see this game being so terrible it can't even score well with the audience its made for.  The first game was just so, so, so bad.   But so many magazines ate it up.  Mercury Steam sucks.  And they're not pulling a Double Helix and slightly improving (supposedly, we'll see with Strider) over the years.  Time to forget about them and stop funding their games.

[SantaC]

So glad to see this game being so terrible it can't even score well with the audience its made for.  The first game was just so, so, so bad.   But so many magazines ate it up.  Mercury Steam sucks.  And they're not pulling a Double Helix and slightly improving (supposedly, we'll see with Strider) over the years.  Time to forget about them and stop funding their games.

how gaf likes this shit is beyond me.

[Trent Dole]

GAF is brain dead, dude.

[bork]

So glad to see this game being so terrible it can't even score well with the audience its made for.  The first game was just so, so, so bad.   But so many magazines ate it up.  Mercury Steam sucks.  And they're not pulling a Double Helix and slightly improving (supposedly, we'll see with Strider) over the years.  Time to forget about them and stop funding their games.

how gaf likes this shit is beyond me.

Because the game has the name "Castlevania" attached to it and some people are just that desperate for anything associated with it. 

I couldn't even get through the demo for the original game before getting sick of it.  I want Castlevania, not God Of War.   :'( 

At least Mirror Of Fate was more CV-like...but unfortunately nowhere near enough.  Sold that off and didn't bother with the HD version.

[Purple Filth]

It isn't outright terrible, but damn is it a boring piece of shit.

Patrick Stewart taking the ham to 11 in the final parts was fucking enjoyable/hilarious tbh

[Purple Filth]

It isn't outright terrible, but damn is it a boring piece of shit.

Patrick Stewart taking the ham to 11 in the final parts was fucking enjoyable/hilarious tbh

Wouldn't know, couldn't force myself through the 50%+ portion of the game where he sounded completely bored and disinterested.

Indeed 

Maybe that's what made the last half shenanigans hilarious to me.

[Van Cruncheon]

why does this exist

[Human Snorenado]

why does this exist

Because you keep touching yourself

[Bebpo]

I dunno, most of the Castlevania fans I know range from indifference to outright hatred of LoS.  Most of its fanbase seems to be composed of people who liked CV's concept but weren't interested in the games at all.  I think its popularity on GAF comes from a few things.  It's got a handful of people who are very invested in it, there's a defined group of people who want to fight those that like it so fans can play the hipster/victim card, and the game isn't outright terrible.

I remember you following along when I played this and posted about the electric spider room and how the game design was TERRIBLE and you were like "yes, yes it is".

It's not the worst game ever made or anything, and I've played worse even in the past years, but the gameplay in LoS is so bad I don't think I could say it isn't outright terrible with a straight face.  The only thing LoS has going for it is:

1)  Graphics
2)  Music
3)  Cutscenes
4)  Story

It's not even like the story is anything great, but it's ok for videogame storytelling and the cutscenes which are the best part are actually fairly well directed with good pacing, angles, tension.  The problem is the game underneath it sucks.  Cox made a decent movie, but shit game.  I never finished LoS either, ended up giving in about 10 hours in or something and watching the rest of the cutscenes on youtube.  I might youtube the cutscenes for LoS out of curiosity, but I'd never touch the game after LoS1's gameplay. 

[SantaC]

it's just not Castlevania.

Atleast Curse of Darkness feels like a CV game.

[bork]

it's just not Castlevania.

Atleast Curse of Darkness feels like a CV game.

Is that one of the Iga 3D games?     And then there was Nanobreaker 

[SantaC]

it's just not Castlevania.

Atleast Curse of Darkness feels like a CV game.

Is that one of the Iga 3D games?     And then there was Nanobreaker 

yes the IGA game...it had an explorable World and a shit load of equipment and weapons.

[Rufus]

I thought they were OK. Recognizably Castlevania at the very least.

[Bebpo]

I liked Iga's first PS2 3d game.  Lament of Innocence was it?  I mean it was just Devil May Cry, but at least it felt like DMC Castlevania. 

[StealthFan]

Demo impressions aren't positive.

Is Curse Of Darkness worth a rental?

[The Sceneman]

Nanobreaker

[cool breeze]

yeah, demo wasn't good.  positive stuff: you can turn off QTEs, which makes me wonder why you wouldn't turn off QTEs.  runs well on PC.

also, using a sotn line/meme out of context is so absolutely tone deaf.  and it's read by a bored scotsman.

[StealthFan]

Robert Carlyle was so bored in the first one. I like the dude but that shit was phoned the fuck in.

Is Nanobreaker worth checking out?

[cool breeze]

yeah, the cast of the first game was awesome but everyone sounded tired and bored.

[SantaC]

yeah, just tried this demo, these clowns haven't learned a thing.  another so-so god of war knock-off incoming.

4 years and they haven't learned a thing? Time to get these clowns to mobile games development.

[El Babua]

The first game had some of the most embarrassingly bad writing. I hope they continue the tradition.

[Purple Filth]

Apparently EDGE gave it a 4   


i really hope that's true

[SantaC]

Apparently EDGE gave it a 4   


i really hope that's true

gaf explosion in 5..4..3..2..1

[SantaC]

don't worry, the reviewer probably just sucks at the game/has a feminist agenda/is a butthurt IGA fan/didn't play the whole game/is a weeaboo

it's just EDGE! Except when they give my favorite game high scores. I hate that gaf mentality.

[Trent Dole]

Rip Castlevania.

[Purple Filth]

Seems they have been discussing some of the review in the demo thread (with brandon83 stanning the fuck out of the game  ) so i guess the score is legit.


speaking of the demo i downloaded, played it and i'm like

  

wasted that space for fucking nothing.

[MoxManiac]

Demo was really boring. Got sick of mashing attack on the same stupid knight enemy over and over. Fighting on top of a giant enemy was kinda cool back in 2010 but nowadays it's like meh.

The "What is a man, a miserable pile of secrets" line that they put in there to masturbate Castlevania nostalga seemed pretty forced.

[StealthFan]

I enjoyed the demo. That platforming is BAD tho.

[SantaC]

haha gaf seems shocked over the low Review scores 

[SantaC]

 

[Positive Touch]

the world's tiniest vampire

[Purple Filth]

Iga got released from the dungeon?

http://schedule.gdconf.com/session-id/828360

From its beginnings with 8-bit classics like Metroid, through its rebirth in Castlevania: Symphony of the Night and several games in the series since -- right up to the current generation of hardware -- "Metroidvania"-style games' mix of action/adventure and exploration/backtracking has stood the test of the time. Join long-time Castlevania-producer Koji Igarashi for an exploration of his experiences and methodology in creating some of the most popular and influential games in the genre over the last 15 years.

[Rufus]

(Image removed from quote.)

 

Arkham City had similar issues with giant cars.

[bork]

Wow.   

From GAF:

I thought this deserved its own thread. User Kingshango from the Castlevania dungeon has had constant comunication with a Mercurysteam employee since months ago; now with Lords of Shadow 2 released and under polarized critics and confused fans, a new chapter begins: The man blames Enric Alvarez, studio director for being up on his own asshole becoming a tyrant after the LoS1 release, details silent layoffs and resignations as that of the Art director of the first game and other important employees.

This was translated from spanish with lots of mistakes. but still. Full testimony:

Good , before going into the new turn of events , I would like to shed some light on the development of this game ... Working with Mercury Steam, and I would like to tell anonymousl so they donn't recognize me, is about the frustrations and information everyday from here. This is dedicated to all of us that have left the skin in the development of this game, but especially those that have precipitated nto the mess that is Lords of Shadows 2 . - Kojima had little or nothing to do with the development of the first game , set a seal , visited the studio, we signed things and that's it ... no one thinks otherwise . The vast majority of this team is aware that the game we've done is a real shit... Nobody is surprised by the reviews the reviews nor the average marks obtained . - The weight of the guilt should charge who should carry, Enric Alvarez . It is certainly the person who has achieved dent the development of this game based on their personal criteria jumping over programmers, designers and art. Despite the good image in front of the press, creative "visionary" in the style of David Cage and Molyneaux , this guy has serious problems. It is a mean and naughty person, since the " success Lords of Shadows 1" his ego has grown to the edge of not being able to say hello when you meet him in the hallway.

The distrust of his own workers is enormous . People in this business usually find out things before us by the press ...that's unfortunate . And there is no corporate culture, zero ... a handful of people working blind and at the mercy of the vagaries of an alleged visionary. - The internal structure is archaic, based on the old partners of Scrapland times . For people to get an idea , the engine with its many shortcomings, was uniquely developed by two people , one of them a member of the company and Enric's confident. Access to new programmers is impossible to renew core ... things are still done like10 years ago . - Many of the founders of the company are department heads, people with zero mentalities regarding the direction and delegation of responsibilities. In most cases, the bloke developers know more than their bosses. This structure helps the general stagnation of development , proof of this is the end result of the Lords of Shadows 2 . - Absolutely all design decisions should be monitored , appropriate and maimed by Enric Alvarez.

Several designers have grown tired of this. - The art direction in this project has been erratic and beheaded . First overturning ideas from the art director of the earlier projects , he decided to leave. It was a battle of egos by Enric Alvarez, he was here since the times of Rebel Act Tequila and is currently working on developing Ryme . - Many people have decided to listen to outside offers , weary of the pace and progress of the company. Rare is the month we do not see people picking up their things and getting out . It's amazing that the biggest game developer in Spain AAA not even have the shame to offer people a counteroffer . This company does not appreciate his talented workers and their good work . There has never been bonus or anything that resembles it . Not even a "Good job team!" - The organization in production project is harmful , often the heads of each department dismissed production deadlines superimposing their own criteria. Proof of this is that development was delayed for six months paid out of pocket Mercury Steam. -

Many can not help but see the parallels between the decline of the company and one where many have worked prior, Rebel Act Games.. - The QA department is treated like cattle , with wages of shame and unfortunate deal. The treatment in general is unfortunate for their folly and cutrez levels of heads . - Expectations for the future are quite void ... with a publisher like Konami tht is not happy ay all after the mediocrity we've made ... - After developing Lords of Shadows 2, the company I work for has laid off about 35 workers , coincidentally this has not been said or filtered in any medium. New layoffs are not discarded soon. And finally , why are not all bad things , the human team of this company is incredible. If the majority of people who are not allowed to rise because of this Jurassic caste, I had the opportunity to decide the new direction of the company , I am convinced that things would change very much . There is a quality as I've ever seen, but contained in the worst jars . I hope those who read this, understand (or not) what I've outlined here . If someone does not say it will be forgotten and will not be echoed behind the furor launch.

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