Author Topic: Shaka has not seen a Star Wars movie (Read 11341 times)

Eschaton · « **on:** January 30, 2014, 09:08:01 PM »

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Olivia Wilde Homo · « **Reply #1 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:09:17 PM »

Neither have I

or Star Trek for that matter

tiesto · « **Reply #2 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:20:30 PM »

I've gotten duped into seeing 5 of them. $:-\$

Steve Youngblood · « **Reply #3 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:23:20 PM »

Quote from: tiesto on January 30, 2014, 09:20:30 PM

I've gotten duped into seeing 5 of them. $:-\$

Wait, which one aren't you counting?

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #4 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:28:41 PM »

I remember when I was playing basketball for a Baptist school (junior high), there was this guy on the team who couldn't watch 99.9% of things on television. If he was watching sports he couldn't watch the commercials, and the only cable channel he was allowed to watch was TV Land. Anyway one day the team was on the bus heading to an away game, and I overheard another kid on the team explaining the entirety of Star Wars to him. Pretty much scene for scene.

So I'm listening and kind of think it's funny, then the guy gets to the part in ESB where Vader tells Luke he's his father. The kid was like "what? Wow, amazing, really?" The shock on his face, and the fact that the twist was ruined for him forever in such a shitty manner bummed me out for hours.

Van Cruncheon · « **Reply #5 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:36:00 PM »

don't do it, star wars is shit for fatties

cool breeze · « **Reply #6 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:38:30 PM »

I didn't see them until I was older and it was for a class. going from the kick ass star wars games of the 90s straight to return of the jedi

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #7 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:54:58 PM »

Quote from: Esch on January 30, 2014, 09:38:21 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2014, 09:28:41 PM
I remember when I was playing basketball for a Baptist school (junior high), there was this guy on the team who couldn't watch 99.9% of things on television. If he was watching sports he couldn't watch the commercials, and the only cable channel he was allowed to watch was TV Land. Anyway one day the team was on the bus heading to an away game, and I overheard another kid on the team explaining the entirety of Star Wars to him. Pretty much scene for scene.

So I'm listening and kind of think it's funny, then the guy gets to the part in ESB where Vader tells Luke he's his father. The kid was like "what? Wow, amazing, really?" The shock on his face, and the fact that the twist was ruined for him forever in such a shitty manner bummed me out for hours.

didnt you use to be a baptist or some awful shit like that

I was never a Baptist breh

My parents were Pentecostals, but we became non-denominational for the majority of my childhood/teen years. I used to troll Baptists and ask them where in the bible does it say Gentiles are supposed to be baptised. I was a fierce lil nicca for god breh

Your Stalker · « **Reply #8 on:** January 30, 2014, 09:55:19 PM »

so? they're mostly garbage anyway

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #9 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:04:59 PM »

After the special editions came out on VHS in the late-90's, I watched all three movies nearly one a week for a whole year [maybe even longer].

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2014, 09:54:58 PM

I used to troll Baptists and ask them where in the bible does it say Gentiles are supposed to be baptised. I was a fierce lil nicca for god breh

The bible even had black people getting baptised.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #10 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:07:19 PM »

Quote from: Esch on January 30, 2014, 10:06:32 PM

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2014, 10:04:59 PM
After the special editions came out on VHS in the late-90's, I watched all three movies nearly one a week for a whole year [maybe even longer].

Me too bro. Gold or silver box? I think I still have mine around here?

Maybe it was the silver box? I can't even remember anymore, I haven't had it around for so long.

Joe Molotov · « **Reply #11 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:11:00 PM »

Silver box was the Widescreen Edition, right? Yeah, I had that.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #12 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:12:05 PM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 30, 2014, 10:04:59 PM

After the special editions came out on VHS in the late-90's, I watched all three movies nearly one a week for a whole year [maybe even longer].

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2014, 09:54:58 PM
I used to troll Baptists and ask them where in the bible does it say Gentiles are supposed to be baptised. I was a fierce lil nicca for god breh

The bible even had black people getting baptised.

/sunday school hat

Jesus' message was for the Jews and preached of the kingdom of heaven on earth; baptism and repentance were a part of that. That doctrine had no place for Gentiles, who were only addressed after the death and resurrection of Christ. Paul is the apostle to the Gentiles. Today salvation is solely through the death of Christ, not works. Only by believing Christ died and rose for your sins can you gain salvation brehs

Shaka better cut that buggery out tho

/sunday school hat

CatsCatsCats · « **Reply #13 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:15:56 PM »

Pentecostal churches are friggin crazy. Speaking in tongues

Positive Touch · « **Reply #14 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:32:57 PM »

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2014, 10:12:05 PM

Today salvation is solely through the death of Christ, not works.

so this is why so many christians dont see a problem with being evil asshats?

ps the sad truth about star wars is that it sucks doodoo. marathon lotr instead brehs

nudemacusers · « **Reply #15 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:34:13 PM »

Star Wars sucks

BSG sucks

B5 sucks

Firefly sucks

Star Trek sucks

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #16 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:35:39 PM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on January 30, 2014, 10:32:57 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2014, 10:12:05 PM
Today salvation is solely through the death of Christ, not works.

so this is why so many christians dont see a problem with being evil asshats?

ps the sad truth about star wars is that it sucks doodoo. marathon lotr instead brehs

Hobbits brehs

Positive Touch · « **Reply #17 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:37:28 PM »

hobbits aint that bad duder

and i mean jesus christ even at their lowest theyre still 10000¹⁰⁰⁰⁰⁰x better than the prequel trilogy

Positive Touch · « **Reply #18 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:38:18 PM »

something about epic cg battles that makes me forget the cism

Human Snorenado · « **Reply #19 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:38:56 PM »

Quote from: Esch on January 30, 2014, 10:37:28 PM

lord of the rings is an anglican homosexual tory white supremacist wankfest

its pretty good tho

Orc apologist

nudemacusers · « **Reply #20 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:40:35 PM »

Quote from: Esch on January 30, 2014, 10:37:28 PM

lord of the rings is an anglican homosexual tory white supremacist wankfest

its pretty good tho

You just listed some of my favorite things

Mupepe · « **Reply #21 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:43:47 PM »

Star wars is meh

StealthFan · « **Reply #22 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:46:41 PM »

Space operas

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #23 on:** January 30, 2014, 10:49:52 PM »

Quote from: Positive Touch on January 30, 2014, 10:32:57 PM

Quote from: Phoenix Dark on January 30, 2014, 10:12:05 PM
Today salvation is solely through the death of Christ, not works.

so this is why so many christians dont see a problem with being evil asshats?

Most Christians don't believe in absolute salvation, and think works ultimately get you into heaven. Our non-denomination were like the hipsters of Christendom breh.

Eel O'Brian · « **Reply #24 on:** January 30, 2014, 11:41:49 PM »

Watch Empire, wiki the rest

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #25 on:** January 30, 2014, 11:53:20 PM »

Quote from: Spencer on January 30, 2014, 10:15:56 PM

Pentecostal churches are friggin crazy. Speaking in tongues

That's just African American Vernacular English. Trust me, I'm a linguist.

Madrun Badrun · « **Reply #26 on:** January 30, 2014, 11:59:09 PM »

Also, in between sucking cock and thinking about sucking cock, one would think you could take in a starwars movie, Jin.

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Stoney Mason · « **Reply #27 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:35:34 AM »

Skidmark who occasionally posts here had also never seen a Star Wars or Star Trek film. I talked him into watching Star Wars over skype with me. It was a fun experience but I don't think he liked it very much.

I'll probably also try to get him to eventually watch one of the newer Star Trek films.

edit: I also tried to get him to watch BSG. He couldn't make it through the opening mini-series. :'(

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #28 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:36:37 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 31, 2014, 12:35:34 AM

Skidmark who occasionally posts here had also never seen a Star Wars or Star Trek. I talked him into watching Star Wars over skype with me. It was a fun experience but I don't think he liked it very much.

I'll probably also try to get him to eventually watch one of the newer Star Trek films.

:himu

Himu · « **Reply #29 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:39:22 AM »

watch all three

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #30 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:41:16 AM »

It's fun watching something that has such cultural cache for my age group and then watching a younger person see it and get almost nothing from it. It makes you realize how everything you like in 20 years nobody will give a shit about. Very humanizing.

Himu · « **Reply #31 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:51:03 AM »

stoney i give a shit. I GIVE A SHIT!!!

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #32 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:51:54 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 31, 2014, 12:41:16 AM

It's fun watching something that has such cultural cache for my age group and then watching a younger person see it and get almost nothing from it. It makes you realize how everything you like in 20 years nobody will give a shit about. Very humanizing.

I think you're right in general, but not about Star Wars. It's achieved such a high level of continued awareness far beyond anything else that came out around that time. I mean, does anybody remember Towering Inferno? But it was big in its time, too. Part of that was George Lucas' genius as a marketer, churning out everything you can think of with a Star Wars logo slapped on it, followed by sequels and spinoffs and books and whatever else he could think of. People will still be watching Star Wars, and wearing Star Wars t-shirts, 20 years from now, but nobody's going to care about Avatar.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #33 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:56:47 AM »

watch a new hope and empire and then jerk off or something, thats it

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #34 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:57:01 AM »

Quote from: Great Rumbler on January 31, 2014, 12:51:54 AM

Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 31, 2014, 12:41:16 AM
It's fun watching something that has such cultural cache for my age group and then watching a younger person see it and get almost nothing from it. It makes you realize how everything you like in 20 years nobody will give a shit about. Very humanizing.

I think you're right in general, but not about Star Wars. It's achieved such a high level of continued awareness far beyond anything else that came out around that time. I mean, does anybody remember Towering Inferno? But it was big in its time, too. Part of that was George Lucas' genius as a marketer, churning out everything you can think of with a Star Wars logo slapped on it, followed by sequels and spinoffs and books and whatever else he could think of. People will still be watching Star Wars, and wearing Star Wars t-shirts, 20 years from now, but nobody's going to care about Avatar.

I think Star Wars will continue to be a big deal because it had a massive cultural impact. And things that achieve that always tend to have a big footprint. But show the original movies to young people now and I have a feeling the resounding impression will be a lot of boredom. But that's just my anecdotal experience.

Which is a separate debate from quality. (I think the first two movies are still great and I like Jedi more than most other nerds do.)

Himu · « **Reply #35 on:** January 31, 2014, 12:59:13 AM »

ROTJ has the best scene in star wars though. Jedi is great!

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #36 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:00:10 AM »

I don't know, I think if the movies are introduced at a young age, rather than waiting until the kid is like in middle school, they'll be fondly looked upon for several generations. But I also think thats true of any movie or music, honestly. If a parent raises a kid around that stuff, they'll most likely become acclimated and fond of that stuff later in life. That's how I got into the Beatles, Happy Days, and Spider-Man.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #37 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:01:29 AM »

Jedi's got some great parts to it, but also some not so great parts. You can definitely see the wheels starting to come off, though, setting the stage for the true disaster that was to come.

Jedi's space battles were

, though:

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #38 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:01:49 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 31, 2014, 12:59:13 AM

ROTJ has the best scene in star wars though. Jedi is great!

I understand why nerds have issues with Jedi. And technically it is the weakest of the three but I just think people are holding it to a very high bar. It's fine. Ewoks and such for me don't Jar Jar the movie. There is still enough there to stand on its own merits versus something like The Phantom Menace which is awful on all fronts.

Himu · « **Reply #39 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:03:28 AM »

I disagree with that. I didn't listen to the Beatles until I was in college and in my 20's. In fact, a lot of the music I've explored, I did myself in my teens and 20's. I also didn't even see Star Wars until the Special Edition trilogy in 1997, and by then, the effects were dated compared to Independence Day and Jurassic Park but I still loved the shit out it and was I was 11 years old at the time.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #40 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:04:04 AM »

Jedi is good but I think it hints way too much at what Star Wars had become and was ultimately going to become 15 years after Jedi. Lucas' original image was much darker and it dabbled a bit in hard-scifi. I'm not familiar enough with Lucas to understand why the shift.

Rufus · « **Reply #41 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:06:12 AM »

I was always more of a Star Trek kid. The only cool thing about Star Wars were the lightsabers.

Himu · « **Reply #42 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:06:25 AM »

This is the best part of Star Wars. Luke violently attacking his father is still my favorite part of the trilogy.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #43 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:07:35 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 31, 2014, 01:04:04 AM

Jedi is good but I think it hints way too much at what Star Wars had become and was ultimately going to become 15 years after Jedi. Lucas' original image was much darker and it dabbled a bit in hard-scifi. I'm not familiar enough with Lucas to understand why the shift.

It's the change where he suddenly decided that to attract kids he had to do things like put ewoks in the movie and have big big space battles that took awhile to keep the audience engaged. I think it still works in Jedi. But its definitely where you can start to see him lose focus a bit from the first two.

TakingBackSunday · « **Reply #44 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:07:38 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 31, 2014, 01:03:28 AM

I disagree with that. I didn't listen to the Beatles until I was in college and in my 20's. In fact, a lot of the music I've explored, I did myself in my teens and 20's. I also didn't even see Star Wars until the Special Edition trilogy in 1997, and by then, the effects were dated compared to Independence Day and Jurassic Park but I still loved the shit out it and was I was 11 years old at the time.

You're not exactly disproving my point. You listened to the Beatles in college, that meant that you had the intellect/desire to explore past music. That doesn't mean you wouldn't have liked them if you listen to them as a kid.

And the Special Edition trilogy was my first experience with them as well, you're actually proving my point a bit. 11 is still young enough to be impressionable.

Himu · « **Reply #45 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:08:57 AM »

Quote from: BrandNew on January 31, 2014, 01:07:38 AM

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 31, 2014, 01:03:28 AM
I disagree with that. I didn't listen to the Beatles until I was in college and in my 20's. In fact, a lot of the music I've explored, I did myself in my teens and 20's. I also didn't even see Star Wars until the Special Edition trilogy in 1997, and by then, the effects were dated compared to Independence Day and Jurassic Park but I still loved the shit out it and was I was 11 years old at the time.

You're not exactly disproving my point. You listened to the Beatles in college, that meant that you had the intellect/desire to explore past music. That doesn't mean you wouldn't have liked them if you listen to them as a kid.

And the Special Edition trilogy was my first experience with them as well, you're actually proving my point a bit. 11 is still young enough to be impressionable.

But you said middle school. SE came out when I was in 5th/6th grade.

Stoney Mason · « **Reply #46 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:09:31 AM »

Quote from: Rufus on January 31, 2014, 01:06:12 AM

I was always more of a Star Trek kid. The only cool thing about Star Wars were the lightsabers.

To this day I'm still more of a Star Trek person (the shows not the new movies which are okay but not what the shows were about). But I also like Star Wars. It probably helps that I also didn't watch any of the Star Wars stuff until I was in my 20's versus growing up and watching Trek from a very early age.

Himu · « **Reply #47 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:11:18 AM »

Also you said that you later became a fan of the Beatles mostly because your parents listened to it. My parents didn't listen to The Beatles or heavy metal or punk rock or electronic music. I had very little exposure to that stuff growing up.

Quote from: Rufus on January 31, 2014, 01:06:12 AM

I was always more of a Star Trek kid. The only cool thing about Star Wars were the lightsabers.

I hated Star Trek as a kid.

I love Star Trek as an adult.

Life is full of mysteries.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #48 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:13:25 AM »

Quote from: Esch on January 31, 2014, 01:04:05 AM

EDIT: the original Star Wars trilogy has some of the best music ever known to movies as well. Look at how many times those pieces were riffed and improvised for different games, movies, television. Incredible.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #49 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:15:23 AM »

Quote from: Formerly Known As Himuro on January 31, 2014, 01:11:18 AM

I hated Star Trek as a kid.

I love Star Trek as an adult.

Life is full of mysteries.

I watched TNG and Voyager a lot when they were new because my dad really liked Star Trek, and it was also my dad who got me into scifi in general [like reading Rendezvous with Rama and Rocket Jockey, among other books, to me before I could read on my own].

Himu · « **Reply #50 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:18:26 AM »

Star Trek is at its best - I feel - when it's a show about humans and special/human relationships than space exploration. That said, I think the procedural nature of Star Trek works to its benefit.

I watched a lot of Trek growing up but my father too, is a big fan. I wouldn't say hate, but I was mixed on it. I just don't think Star Trek is the best for kids pre-puberty. Definitely better for kids teenager and up.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #51 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:20:39 AM »

Sure. Star Wars was specifically designed to be a very easy to follow hero story that just happened to be set in space. Star Trek was more about exploring complex human problems through the lens of a futuristic society. Not exactly something that's going to bring the kids running.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #52 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:20:51 AM »

I didn't know people disliked ROTJ until I discovered internet forums. In hindsight sure, the ewok stuff is dumb...but that movie has so much solid stuff. Jabba, all the space battles, Luke v Darth Vader (arguably the best duel in the series), the assault on the ewok planet, etc. It's the worst of the first three but isn't some disaster.

Himu · « **Reply #53 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:22:46 AM »

Yeah, I didn't know nerds hated ROTJ until forums. It was my favorite as a kid.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #54 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:24:04 AM »

ROTJ was also my favorite growing up, I didn't know that people hated it until the internet.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #55 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:27:44 AM »

Quote from: Esch on January 31, 2014, 01:23:29 AM

please tell me at least one of you stans the EU

i need one last Kyle Katarn game.

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Rufus · « **Reply #56 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:31:08 AM »

Quote from: Stoney Mason on January 31, 2014, 01:09:31 AM

It probably helps that I also didn't watch any of the Star Wars stuff until I was in my 20's versus growing up and watching Trek from a very early age.

Yup. Get 'em young.

The movies were before my time and I don't think we had cable or satellite TV when they aired on TV, either. I think I saw part of Return of the Jedi without even knowing what it was, then years later I watched all three. I did see Episode I in the cinema with some friends who were more into it than I. Dunno how they caught the bug. Older siblings maybe?

I think Kotor 2 is the only Star Wars thing I really like.

Phoenix Dark · « **Reply #57 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:31:19 AM »

I hate to categorize nerd shit on this scale...but Star Wars will always be cooler than Star Trek. There's just no comparison. Looks better, cooler weapons, more interesting aliens, more badass villain, etc.

Great Rumbler · « **Reply #58 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:32:17 AM »

Himu · « **Reply #59 on:** January 31, 2014, 01:33:33 AM »

Yup.

The problem is, they're so different though. I consider Star Wars...science fantasy. It has almost nothing in relation with sci-fi. I consider Star Trek sci-fi, doe.

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Author Topic: Shaka has not seen a Star Wars movie (Read 11341 times)

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