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Rahxephon91

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I've already waited this long and would rather the game be polished as possible.

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I was never going to buy FFXV day 1 anyway. Day 1 FF purchases died with FFXIII. I'll wait and hear consensus and wait for the inevitable price drop. It just means its a little further out. No biggie.
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sound of a million slash fangirls screaming out etc
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Game could be a trainwreck...
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Confirmed - FFXV releasing on Nov 30

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wepgwx_9kto&feature=youtu.be

Basically delayed because of poors who dont have internet so they're including the "day 1 patch" in the new master.
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Square dropped 50mn of footage on Youtube. Too lazy to link it.
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zomg fishing minigame confirmed
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Footage looks good. Cant wait to see what the achievements are
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I'm gonna double post this in the movie thread and here.  So I saw Kingsglaive FFXV tonight.  I don't know anything about FFXV.  Haven't played any demos, watched any trailers since like it was revealed as Versus and then the revealed as FFXV trailers and that's it.  These days I'm generally in media blackout on every videogame, just because I don't care and nothing worse than getting hyped up for a game that ends up sucking.  But anyhow, so knowing nothing about FFXV here's my thoughts:

While FFVII Advent Children was a bombastic stupid videogame movie that embraced itself and FF and was all about SUPER MELODRAMATIC slow moments and CRAZY ACTION at ultra-high speed with dramatic orchestra music pounding, Kingsglaive is a very mild low-key videogame cutscene movie.  It's a bit odd because the low-key more western cinematic style to it (aka, general lack of melodrama) would make it seem like it'd fit more as a movie, but it just doesn't feel like a movie at all.  It feels really close to like the Type-0 opening movie if it was 2 hours long and without the cool "We have arrived" music.  Just a bunch of action with no impact, bad editing, and the worst videogame sound effects I've ever heard.  Like they get in the car and it sounds like Gran Turismo 3 car sound effects.  It doesn't sound like a movie because the sound effects are like gameplay sound effects.  It's weird.  Also the music not being Shimomura but low-key background movie music really keeps it generic feeling.  At least if it had FF style music it'd have its own unique character to it.

The few little bits of character stuff are generally solid.  My favorite scene is the ONE melodramatic slow scene in the entire movie where Somnus is playing and the old Versus painting is in the background and it feels nice and character-y and it feels like the stuff I like FF and jrpgs for.  But then it quickly gets back into 90 mins of action action action that's for the most part terribly directed/edited with non-stop quick cuts and only the final fight really has decent fight choreography in a Cloud/Sephiroth way.

Story was alright.  Honestly, now that I know what FFXV is about, I'm sorta interested because I assume it's an old but workable story of an exiled prince taking back a kingdom.  But at the same time the quality of Kingsglaive makes me feel like the execution of the concept is gonna be pretty terrible like Type-0, which also had an interesting story but awful execution of it all.  If FFXV is anything like Kingsglaive the general feeling I'm getting is that it's FFXII x Type-0; lots of parts of Kingsglaive felt very Type-0.

Voice acting was a mixed bag.  Most of the non-big name actors were total shit anime dub.  The most elitist thing I'm ever gonna say about my Japanese is that I'm really glad I became fluent in Japanese before jrpgs started having voice acting because I have no idea how people put up with anime dub acting.  Aaron Paul is actually really good!  And Lena Headey's quality as well.  Sean Bean kinda sucks and his character doesn't emote visually which is weird, so that's disappointing, but on the antagonists the cowboy hat dude actually has a decent dub voice.  But then you have the 2ndary characters like white trash Barrett and no-name NPCs who really suck and take you out of the movie when they talk.

Visuals are weird too.  Like, you can tell these are video game cutscenes as they're decently above real-time PC/PS4 graphics, but nowhere near the quality of modern CG films.  You can see that most of the assets, especially in the environment are seriously in-game PS4 assets.  Some of the outdoor locations look really rough and some of the character animations are pretty bad too.  Even the lip-synch is off a lot, which gives it more of a dub anime feeling, but I'm under the impression the lip-synch was done to the English voice track.  Just feels budget.  And then the one seen that is seriously in-game PS4 graphics running on a giant theater screen wow, that looks terrible.

In the end it's not a bad movie, story is ok as a prologue, there's a couple cool scenes and most of the time it's passively enjoyable, but it's not good either and it's never really great like the highs of Advent Children.  Kingsglaive abandons its Japanese melodramatic epic FF roots and is the poorer for it.  It's the movie equivalent of those last gen Japanese games that tried so hard to westernize for a wider audience.  I don't know if this reflects on the game as well, but hopefully not.  Also, I never want to see a realistic Ultros again.

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Well I really hated Advent Children for how over the top it was. I hated the battle scenes in AC because of how ridiculous and stupid they were, with no rules or logic to them. Just complete ridiculousness. Hated the characters because of how "emo" and unfun they generally were.

Kingsglaive was more low key and I like it for that reason. Yes, the combat was still over the top, but even then there was a clear logic and reason to how the glaive's used their powers and when they did'nt have that power they were'nt Dragonball characters. It's only the final battle that is really over the top and by then it's earned because one character has earned the "ultimate power".

I thought pretty much every character outside of the three mains and villians sounded terrible. Like, I just don't know how they thought that was ok.

I don't really share your opinions on the visuals. Outside of noticeable poor lip synch and bland looking non-important characters I thought the visuals were really good. I don't remember anything looking like PS4 visuals. Then again, I don't seem to understand peoples problem with the actual XV graphics at this point. At this point it just seems like everyone wants to hate anything regarding this game. Were they Pixar level? No, but I don't expect SE to make something like that. Clearly they were Blizzard level CG which is what I'd expect for one of these CGI video game movies. A little bit above the quality of these direct to dvd things.

The movie did have some really bad scene transition though. One part they fade to black every 5 seconds only to be at a scene that maybe happen a minute after the previous scene. That was really bad editing., no storyboarding.

As for the story. The world of FFXV strikes a good balance between feeling simple and not overly complicated and feeling uniquely interesting. Nothing here felt too complicated and anime stupid. Unlike AC I can actually make sense and relate to everyone motivations. Were some backgrounds a bit cliche? Sure and it's bad writing when characters just all of a sudden decide to tell you about their dead sister during a high speed escape, but whatever. Either the way the setting and conflict of FFXV is really cool, but without feeling like anime over the topness which makes zero sense and just asks you to go with it. Like there's no real sense of logic and thought behind it, which is something thats been bothering me about all these Light novels and anime and shit from Japan recently.

What I'm getting at between Kingsglaive and the recent showing of FFXV is that XV seems rather low key and avoiding some of the more over the top anime shit I've seen recently. Yes its still anime, but I don't know things feel more restrained then what I've seen in the previous 5 years. I mean XV opens up with your buddies pushing a broken down car and half the enjoyment comes from being on a road trip. Kingsglaive is about some soldiers who yes zero shift all around, but it's a job and they still go home to their fantasy Tokyo to eat and drink.

This sounds more interesting and digestible then a Goddess rescuing souls from the Apocalypse in 13 days and I'm very excited to see where XV takes this universe. Which I guess was the whole point of Kingsglaive anyway.

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So only the beginning of the game is confirmed open world, rest is more linear

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Rahxephon91

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So only the beginning of the game is confirmed open world, rest is more linear

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I think people are kind of over blowing that statement.

Xenoblade and Final Fantasy XII are linear games. They are not at all linear like FFXIII. The always said the game was linear, now it's just a matter of knowing how? Because the 2nd half could easily still have open environments. I mean camping and stuff is how you level up, I doubt that changes. So I doubt the environments become smaller or something. Which is all I want in the end. If the game becomes linear, but still has open environments to explore I'll be happy. If becoming more linear means the story ramps up and there's less tedious activities to do and more specific set pieces and missions, then I'm all for it.

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Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
« Reply #1276 on: September 30, 2016, 12:35:32 AM »
Today we should be playing FFXV.
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Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
« Reply #1277 on: September 30, 2016, 03:03:23 AM »
Saw the trailer for World of Final Fantasy, it looks pretty nice, no clue if the game is any good of course

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Re: Making a Final Fantasy thread and no one can stop me. (Finalphile Support Group)
« Reply #1278 on: September 30, 2016, 08:39:22 AM »
FFXIV Patch 3.4 came out this week though and it's pretty darn great.
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Any FFXIVers here? Would love to ask some questions/receive some advice! I'm kinda stuck after a long break, and feeling like I have no clue what to do.

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yes i play the game and fucking love it what are your questions
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yes i play the game and fucking love it what are your questions
My char is now a level 51 PLD, and I've been gone for a year or so, and completely forgot how to work this job.
Is this guide still viable?
http://www.ffxivinfo.com/guides/paladin.php

I'm due to do a party dungeon next, so I need to get my tank shit together and not fuck it up for the rest.
Need to do well with aggroing and enemity stuff, as well as outputting enough damage/proper skill rotation.

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if you're not doing heavensward yet then old strategies still apply so the guide should work fine. don't worry about damage bc you're a tank. you might want to practice with some fates or something first.

the max i level for gear in 2.x is like 130. do activities that give you tomestones of poetics like daily roulettes, then go to mor dhona and talk to one of the women near the top of the hill to use the tomes to buy ironworks gear. that'll get you closer to i120 so you can do all the 2.x dungeons and bosses. might as well take your time because you'll need to do all the many many story quests before you can get to Ishgard and heavensward.
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if you're not doing heavensward yet then old strategies still apply so the guide should work fine. don't worry about damage bc you're a tank. you might want to practice with some fates or something first.

the max i level for gear in 2.x is like 130. do activities that give you tomestones of poetics like daily roulettes, then go to mor dhona and talk to one of the women near the top of the hill to use the tomes to buy ironworks gear. that'll get you closer to i120 so you can do all the 2.x dungeons and bosses. might as well take your time because you'll need to do all the many many story quests before you can get to Ishgard and heavensward.
This is more helpful than what others have told me, so thank you very much!

I still have most of the 7th Astral Era Quests left before I can start the HS stuff. No stress on that, leveling in FFXIV is far less draining and annoying than a lot of MMORPGs I've played. The one thing I'm worried about is if I'll be missing out on something that will help me a lot. Such as crafting, for instance. Should I just not care until I'm lvl 60? Or is it something I could do while leveling and doing the 7th Astral Era stuff?

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crafting isn't something you need to do at all, especially now that there are npcs that can affix materia. the main reasons people craft tend to be to raise money or to make personal items to wear or decorate your house with. you can start crafting any time; it's real easy. doesn't take as much time to level as you might think, especially if you grind levequests.  personally i think crafting is pretty fun and have more levels in those classes than combat ones.
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Square confirmed that FFXV will be getting PS4 Pro support:

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An update adding 4K and HDR support will be released alongside the game on November 29, but they want to release an update that has been optimized a bit more at a later date. They want to release another PlayStation 4 Pro update in December as well, which aims to implement support for 1080p at 60 frames per second on HDTVs. They’re currently at the tuning stage, but have it running roughly between 40 and 50 frames per second.
Read more at http://gematsu.com/2016/11/list-ps4-pro-enhanced-japanese-games#rqyd4W58oAaPRCTp.99

I would definitely wait until December to play it if I cared about this game and wanted a Pro.
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Oh shit that sounds great. I wonder if Pros will be hard to get.

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ffxv is my most anticipated game of the year
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Trailer from the new "Judgment" demo on JPSN

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Oh god, no, why. Whyyyy.

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