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Re: FFX/2 Remaster - Relive your teen years again, unfortunately
« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2014, 07:50:57 PM »
- That it's too girly and too embarrassing to play, and for that reason it's not worth playing ever.

...says the person who pitched a fit when SP wouldn't let her make a female character

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That's a pretty bad comparison you realize. I read you could in numerous previews. It was an advertised feature from what I read. Also, I was not annoyed you had to play as a boy, I was annoyed you couldn't make a girl despite the customization being there. When a game has customization, to me, all bets are off. Compared to a game that has no customization whatsoever like X-2. More over, I'm still going to get South Park. And finally, most games force you to be dudes anyways.

Compared to "I can't play FFX-2 because it's too girly" or whatever nonsense I've been exposed to for 11+ years.
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« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2014, 08:10:09 PM »
Compared to "I can't play FFX-2 because it's too girly" or whatever nonsense I've been exposed to for 11+ years.

No time for uguu shit.

I will play an Atelier game when I'm dead.

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« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2014, 09:48:37 PM »
:yeshrug

Go play your uguu games.

X-2 is not uguu.
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« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2014, 10:47:30 PM »
Yuna being all super bubbly did not make sense to me due to her past characterization in X-1 (lul) along with the main plot/point of her adventure in X-2. Also Lulu >>>>Paine-Sol. Still had fun anyway. :yeshrug
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« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2014, 11:06:24 PM »
WTF is uguu?

How is X-2 not uguu when Lightning Returns is?

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« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2014, 11:14:50 PM »
Now I can play the massage mini-game in high definition. :jawalrus

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« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2014, 11:19:40 PM »
I am laughing already, dude.
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« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2014, 11:38:35 PM »
WTF is uguu?

How is X-2 not uguu when Lightning Returns is?

X-2 was pre-moe. Uguu essentially means moe, mostly due to the source of uguu, the anime Kanon.

See:



XIII is full of moe characters, most particularly Vanille. X-2 is definitely weeabootastic. But it's not moe.

Meanwhile:

4:09



That's FF13LR's opening. FFX-2's opening has gay background dancers.

Toriyama even backs this up.

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According to the instructions from Toriyama-san, we wanted to show both Lightning’s “moe” side and her “burning” side. There’s a scene when Lightning is undercover is Yusnan and she’s shy when she walks up on stage, and this is “moe.”

There’s also a scene when she waits for the Chocobo to recover. I like it a whole lot personally. In this scene she’s leaning casually on a fence. Normally you’d see the old Lightning always dashing or jumping, and she always had a reason for every action. Therefore I like it personally, because such a casual gesture was something rare for her. Since this kind of charming gestures are scattered here and there (in the game), please enjoy them.

X-2 is about making the main trio of ladies as cool and sensual as possible. It's girl power as fuck. LR is about making Lightning as vulnerable and cute as possible. It's trying to market Lightning as a gaming sex icon (or at least, Toriyama's sex icon). Hence, uguu.
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« Reply #69 on: March 16, 2014, 12:40:18 AM »
I must admit, leaning casually on a fence is super uguu
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« Reply #70 on: March 16, 2014, 02:27:45 AM »
:bow pop gaf :bow2
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« Reply #71 on: March 16, 2014, 04:57:12 AM »
Lightning isn't sexy, she's femme-cloud. :P
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« Reply #72 on: March 16, 2014, 06:28:49 AM »
X-2 isn't uguu or moe.  It's Pop-GAF.  It's To Wong Foo.

Some of us preferred The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert

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« Reply #73 on: March 16, 2014, 07:10:06 AM »
X-2 isn't uguu or moe.  It's Pop-GAF.  It's To Wong Foo.

it's still pretty hypocritical to say "people that don't play this game i like for a spergy reason are dumb, but i won't go near this game for a spergy reason" in fact i don't have enough :comeon to express it

:comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon  :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon :comeon

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« Reply #74 on: March 16, 2014, 07:43:28 AM »
For trying to make Lightning cute and moe, they sure did a poor job at it. Since she's still basically the same "emotionless" and distant tough chick she's been. Except now you can dress her up and they upped the sex appeal.

This is different then X-2 how? The game where they upped the sex appeal of the characters and also allowed you to watch as they changed into outfits and maybe did a dry hump as they did it.

I guess one difference is that the tone of the two games is different, Lightning Returns is far more serious. Doesn't change the fact that both kind of do the same thing, both make objects out of the female characters. Both also attempt to empower them.


I like how X-2 is pre-moe, except for the fact that moe has been around for quite awhile and Kanon actually pre-dates FFX-2.

This just seems like lame "I want to validate the one I like and not the other".

I think all this talk of ill defined uguu and moe is dumb and so I'm just going to classify moe as "cute little girls designed to make you feel warmth and an urge to protect them". That seems to me what all this moe stuff is about, having cute characters who you feel thier innocence and cutness. Since I don't think thats the attempt with either Lightning Returns and FFX-2-since the female characters have thier own urgency and whatnot- I don't think either are moe or uguu.
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« Reply #75 on: March 16, 2014, 03:09:47 PM »
Wait, Magus is opposed to this game? These girls too old for you? :teehee :holeup
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« Reply #76 on: March 16, 2014, 03:15:41 PM »
hahahahahhaha :sabu good one buddy
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« Reply #77 on: March 16, 2014, 03:18:32 PM »
Wait, Magus is opposed to this game? These girls too old for you? :teehee :holeup

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« Reply #78 on: March 16, 2014, 03:37:23 PM »
Wait, Magus is opposed to this game? These girls too old for you? :teehee :holeup

i'm pretty sure rikku is like 9 year old or something... at least her dialogue would indicate so! :heh
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« Reply #79 on: March 16, 2014, 03:42:31 PM »
From what I've seen of LR its aesthetics are mostly 90s x-treme to the x-treme, which is why I wanna play it
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« Reply #80 on: March 18, 2014, 05:33:55 PM »
Got this. Love this.

Really liking expert grid. International changes to X-2 are also fab.
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« Reply #81 on: March 18, 2014, 05:51:33 PM »
:heartbeat



Game is beautiful as well. Redone bgs are wow. The clarity is amazing. The remastered soundtrack sounds BEAUTIFUL on an hdtv set.



Never seen so much effort put into an hd port. AAA effort and fantastic product.

X-2's International shit is fucking awesome. :bow Rogue like :bow Creatures
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« Reply #82 on: March 18, 2014, 07:37:40 PM »
Any word on the Vita version? I haven't really played this since release but i did kinda like it
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« Reply #83 on: March 18, 2014, 07:38:38 PM »
Waiting for UPS to drop off my copy.
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« Reply #84 on: March 18, 2014, 10:09:23 PM »
Is the International version of X-2 okay for a first timer?

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« Reply #85 on: March 18, 2014, 10:10:43 PM »
Should be. So far it is the same thing but with even more content.
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« Reply #86 on: March 18, 2014, 10:21:47 PM »
All the X-2 content is after the game, afaik. If youve never played it, it should be largely the same.
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« Reply #87 on: March 18, 2014, 11:14:59 PM »
It isn't. I've already gotten a new dress sphere. Creatures are unlocked as soon as you get the airship as well.
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« Reply #88 on: March 19, 2014, 03:17:42 AM »
X is same old boring shit.

I love X-2 mannnnnnnnn. :noah having monsters in your party kicks ass.
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« Reply #89 on: March 19, 2014, 04:17:15 AM »
Played X-2 all night.

It's senior high school year all over again. :noah
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« Reply #90 on: March 19, 2014, 04:31:20 AM »
How far is the Shiva fight in FFX? I remember I quit there when I was in college and traded in the PS2 then cause I was so dissapointed.

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« Reply #91 on: March 19, 2014, 04:35:44 AM »
Dark Shiva? I dunno. We didn't get the International extras in NA. You should be avoiding all dark aeons until end game anyways. You don't fight Shiva in regular FFX. In FFX Int. Dark Shiva appears when you return to Macalania Temple. She has 1,100,000 hp.
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« Reply #92 on: March 19, 2014, 07:08:37 AM »
I don't think I had the Int version. I bought the PS2+FFX bundle when it came out.

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« Reply #93 on: March 19, 2014, 07:14:04 AM »
shiva fight was like halfway, i think? maybe a little farther than that.

edit: yeah not a fight with shiva, a fight at shiva temple
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« Reply #94 on: March 19, 2014, 08:18:13 AM »
It was in Europe yes, I def didnt finish the game but I do remember she looked like Shiva alright...

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« Reply #95 on: March 19, 2014, 10:55:38 AM »
Optional fight. You dont fight shiva in regular ffx. Avoid dark aeons.
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« Reply #96 on: March 19, 2014, 11:03:15 AM »
Speaking of which everyone grab Valefor's second od before leaving Be said because when you come back when you get the airship, dark valefor will be waiting for you at besaid entrance.
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« Reply #97 on: March 19, 2014, 02:45:56 PM »
FFX, even with the expert grid, still has game play that is boring as all fuck. Playing X-2 exclusively for now on.
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« Reply #98 on: March 19, 2014, 07:38:28 PM »
just beat the first blitzball match on the first try.

still got it
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« Reply #99 on: March 19, 2014, 07:53:09 PM »
Hmm, all the good word of mouth is making me want to replay FFX and X-2 someday with this remaster.  If I didn't have a backlog of a ton of good rpgs I could rationalize replaying old rpgs a lot more easily! 

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« Reply #100 on: March 19, 2014, 08:01:32 PM »
I replayed X-2 to 100% it in like 2007 or so. Too bad, wish I'd waited for HD!
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« Reply #101 on: March 19, 2014, 08:26:17 PM »
This game looks great.

Speaking of which everyone grab Valefor's second od before leaving Be said because when you come back when you get the airship, dark valefor will be waiting for you at besaid entrance.

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« Reply #102 on: March 19, 2014, 08:30:11 PM »
I replayed X-2 to 100% it in like 2007 or so. Too bad, wish I'd waited for HD!

Just replay X-2 but don't 100% or try to 100% it. Still fun as balls. You know you want to do it dude.
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« Reply #103 on: March 19, 2014, 08:31:55 PM »
Been trying to go to high rank places too early to increase the difficulty in X-2. I've game covered about four times. Tried Gagazet and Zanarkand. I always start the game out at Luca and Kilika and work my way up because they're so low. I want the game harder this time and it is fitting the bill currently. I need to increase HP and Def. Paine stays alive consistently as a warrior while Yuna and Rikku die too fast. I need to learn SOS abilities on Paine asap.

This game looks great.

Speaking of which everyone grab Valefor's second od before leaving Be said because when you come back when you get the airship, dark valefor will be waiting for you at besaid entrance.

how

On the day you leave to take Yuna to the boat go back to Besaid. Talk to the shopkeeper girl. You won't have to buy shit. Just go to shop menu and exit. Then she'll talk about her dog. Search the town for the dog. Then you got Valefor's second OD that real high dmg.
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« Reply #104 on: March 19, 2014, 10:10:05 PM »
Are there any missable Jecht Spheres? I don't want to use a guide but I do have an Al Bhed checklist.

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« Reply #105 on: March 19, 2014, 10:20:39 PM »
Jecht spheres? You mean the flashback spheres? I think those are nigh impossible to miss.

Check this out.

http://www.ign.com/wikis/final-fantasy-x/Jecht_Spheres
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« Reply #106 on: March 20, 2014, 01:38:55 AM »
I don't remember these games ever being this detailed before. I mean, it was there, but maybe it's because I played on sd.

Just beautiful.



btw Viscen, save at least 2000 gil for O'aka on the ship. You want to give him 10001 gil and you have four chances to do so. Each contribution works towards that total. He gives great discounts if you get do it before then. After the fourth time he won't take donations and you'll be stuck with your prices. This is very useful in the late game. I suggest not buying anything from the shop at Besaid, even weapons and potions.
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« Reply #107 on: March 20, 2014, 09:08:16 AM »
They tweaked the textures and models, etc... its a Remaster
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« Reply #108 on: March 20, 2014, 09:09:00 AM »
dat looks really fun and cheerful in a 2000 weeaboo way
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« Reply #109 on: March 20, 2014, 10:55:27 AM »
Thanks for the O'aka tip. I have 1200 gil and I am about the board to ship. I guess I should grind around here for more money?

I double dipped also  :-[

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« Reply #110 on: March 20, 2014, 11:05:41 AM »
Mmmm, I wouldn't grind. Just give O'aka the 1000. That leaves 9000 more to give him. In the long run, save your money for O'aka until you give him 10k. I don't mean at once. Just, to be careful with your money. ALso, don't even bother donating unless you are going to give him 10,001 gil exactly or you're wasting your cash. Give him the 1k. The next time he's around give him 3k or so. Sell your old equipment when you get new stuff. FFX is so easy you should be fine with your pickups without buying anything for a while.
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« Reply #111 on: March 20, 2014, 11:22:23 AM »
I remember having my levels get stalled out by a lack of ability spheres when I played this the first time. There's a way to add ability sphere drop to a weapon or something, right? When/how do I do that?

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« Reply #112 on: March 20, 2014, 11:26:13 AM »
X International adds the Extract ability...ability. It essentially allows you to extract spheres from monsters in battle. There's also an extract magic ability which does the same for magic spheres. On the expert grid, which I'm using, extract magic is on Lulu's side, and extract ability is on Yuna's side. They're right at the beginning too, right next to Kimahri. THey were the first thing I grabbed with Yuna and Lulu respectively. Not sure about standard grid if you're using that but they're in there. Really cool Intl version fixes that inherent flaw that was in FFX. Places like M'ihen Highroad and Mushroom Rock are especially big in lacking ability spheres.
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« Reply #113 on: March 20, 2014, 11:35:45 AM »
For us FFX International newbies I thought a list of dark aeons would be good:

i) Dark Valefor (DAV)
LOCATION: Entrance to Besaid Village NOT beach. An event will occur where the
Summoner calls Yuna an infidel and sends Dark Valefor charging at you.

ii) Dark Ifrit (DAI)
LOCATION: Bikanel Island. The area before the entrance of Home, where you
started the Cactuar mini-game for Rikku’s Sigil. Talk to the Al Bhed
woman who claims she has lost her child in the ruins of Home, select Yes, then
watch the events that follow. When you walk to the cliff, the Al Bhed woman
will show herself as a Dark Summoner.

iii) Dark Ixion (DAIX)
LOCATION: Thunder Plains. Exit the Agency (where the airship drops you off)
and head north. Continue north and you notice a Bevelle solider resting under
a Lightning tower. Talk to him and he calls you a heathen and watch the events
that follow. You are required to fight Dark Ixion twice.

iv) Dark Shiva (DAS)
LOCATION: Head back to Macalania Temple. Walk to the entrance and the old
Guado will summon Dark Shiva who snaps at you.

v) Dark Bahamut (DAB)
LOCATION: Zanarkand Ruins, at the area where you fought Yunalesca. Dark
Bahamut will self-station himself there.

vi) Dark Yojimbo (DAYO)
LOCATION: Cavern of the Stolen Fayth, go to the back of the cavern using
either the teleport pad or walking there, then head back to the direction of
the Save Sphere and watch the events that follow. You are required to fight
Dark Yojimbo FIVE times.

vii) Dark Anima (DAA)
LOCATION: Mt.Gagazet. From the point where the airship drops you off, take the
teleport pad to ‘Cave Entrance’. This was the cave where you had
to solve a simple puzzle to form paths leading to the summit. Anyways, head
north downwards (do not take the stairs leading up) and then swim towards
north. Remember the ball-throwing puzzle? Do it again and when you hit the
center, Dark Anima will be pulled out of the ground. Save before fighting.


viii) Dark Magus Sisters (DAMS)
LOCATION FOR ALL 3: Mushroom Rock Road, enter via exit of Mi’ihen
Highroad. Walk in between the 2 summoners who are talking to each other, a
scene will occur. Run to the left at the nearest fork. Take the elevator up
and a cat and mouse chase game will occur. Your objective is to run until
Cindy (the fat one tires out). But if you are good enough, you can make it to
the end of the valley, take the elevator up, after the short scene, BEAT THEM
UP ONE BY ONE! Dark Cindy will be at the same place where she tired out.

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Re: FFX/2 Remaster - Relive your teen years again, unfortunately
« Reply #114 on: March 20, 2014, 12:56:12 PM »
I just found Extract Ability and Extract Agility on the normal Sphere Grid, very early on. So you don't even need to get into weapon crafting for that problem to be fixed.

It just occurred to me - could I have done the International version with the standard sphere grid instead of expert?


edit - fuck, looks like that's a yes. I would have done that if I had known. Oh well.
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« Reply #115 on: March 20, 2014, 01:00:00 PM »
You're still playing FFX International with standard grid. Standard grid has more nodes so you get a beefier party, but expert allows you to freeform and customize more easily.
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« Reply #116 on: March 20, 2014, 01:58:10 PM »
if anyone has a X-2 Vita code they don't want, lmk
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« Reply #117 on: March 20, 2014, 07:34:24 PM »
So did they add giggle to Lulu's victory pose? I don't remember it being there and I think I saw it.....


I don't care if this is embarrassing.

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« Reply #118 on: March 20, 2014, 07:45:03 PM »
Kay so here's my X expert grid game plan:

Tidus -> Auron's path, no abilities, unless they're Knight based
Auron -> Tidus path
Kimahri -> Tidus path only learning support skills like haste and hastega, concentrating on stats
Yuna -> Yuna path
Wakka ->  Wakka and Auron path in full, it just makes more sense for Wakka to use stuff like Power Break when he has also status effect shit like Dark Attack.
Rikku -> Rikku path
Lulu -> Lulu path

After going through their paths everyone will go through the whole sphere grid except for ability nodes that aren't the ones listed above. I hate copy pasta characters but I want a beefy party for Penance and Dark Aeons.

Let's go.

Also, so far the game is slightly harder in Kilika than before. I'm getting into yellow almost all the time. This is good.I may be crazy but is FFX Intl better balanced than regular X?

I also saw a cut scene I've NEVER seen before on the ferry to Luca.
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Re: FFX/2 Remaster - Relive your teen years again, unfortunately
« Reply #119 on: March 20, 2014, 08:38:25 PM »
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