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Re: omg da SKIES OF ARCADIA remix!
« Reply #60 on: April 21, 2014, 08:04:59 PM »
Nah, I had most of a power 9 set ages ago, in the late 90's. I had a bunch of legacy shit like 3 years ago (dual lands, force of wills, etc) that I sold for a couple grand so I could buy a car.
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Re: omg da SKIES OF ARCADIA remix!
« Reply #61 on: April 21, 2014, 09:56:08 PM »
Pathologic and Cart Life are good, boring games. More disheartening than relaxing maybe. But good. And boring!

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« Reply #62 on: April 21, 2014, 10:14:45 PM »
lol shenmue

more like shitpoo

Well that's redundant

(Just like Shenmue 2)

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« Reply #63 on: April 21, 2014, 11:38:53 PM »
Yeah yeah yeah, the game advertised as being a big real world being compared to sandbox games is not a strange comparison. Which is why I brought up L.A. Noire, which does a lot of what Shenmue does but actually made it into a game.

But not a good game.

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« Reply #64 on: April 22, 2014, 04:32:08 AM »
How does LA Noire work? I have it on steam, never played it, because I have it on Steam.

Does LA Noire feature multiple paths - like Shenmue - or is it a straight linear trek? Shenmue works by using logical puzzles and most puzzles have a different way to get to that destination. If you're just talking about LA Noire's face technology, that's not really an improvement. But since you likely haven't played Shenmue in quite a long time, since you even say you can't remember, I don't see the point in talking about it.

I just watched a video of an interrogation in LA Noire. It's pretty cool, but it's basically Ace Attorney. Saying it does something better than Shenmue is grasping at straws. In LA Noire, you solve cases. In Shenmue, you get clues to continue the story. These games have completely different goals. At that point, you may as well compare GTAV to SRIV because they feature the ability to drive cars, despite being totally different games with completely different goals with very little in the way of similarities.

What I'm looking at is a very linear, game-like experience. Which isn't an improvement on Shenmue.

lol shenmue

more like shitpoo

Well that's redundant

(Just like Shenmue 2)

Please stop sucking Oscar's cock and commenting on things you have never experienced.
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« Reply #65 on: April 22, 2014, 04:49:20 AM »
Pathologic and Cart Life are good, boring games. More disheartening than relaxing maybe. But good. And boring!

Holy fuck Cart Life.

Thanks for this. I also think Papers Please kind of works.
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« Reply #66 on: April 22, 2014, 07:33:22 AM »
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« Reply #67 on: April 22, 2014, 08:33:10 AM »
Pathologic and Cart Life are good, boring games. More disheartening than relaxing maybe. But good. And boring!

Holy fuck Cart Life.

Thanks for this. I also think Papers Please kind of works.

I posted about Cart Life once before, you seemed into it then too.

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« Reply #68 on: April 22, 2014, 10:34:23 AM »
lol shenmue

more like shitpoo

Well that's redundant

(Just like Shenmue 2)

Please stop sucking Oscar's cock and commenting on things you have never experienced.

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« Reply #69 on: April 22, 2014, 11:22:09 AM »
i like how even though you love shenmue to pieces you seem to have not picked up the main lesson it was trying to teach.

I am not trying to kill anyone. I swear.
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Re: omg da SKIES OF ARCADIA remix!
« Reply #70 on: April 22, 2014, 11:40:34 AM »
How does LA Noire work? I have it on steam, never played it, because I have it on Steam.

Does LA Noire feature multiple paths - like Shenmue - or is it a straight linear trek? Shenmue works by using logical puzzles and most puzzles have a different way to get to that destination. If you're just talking about LA Noire's face technology, that's not really an improvement. But since you likely haven't played Shenmue in quite a long time, since you even say you can't remember, I don't see the point in talking about it.

I just watched a video of an interrogation in LA Noire. It's pretty cool, but it's basically Ace Attorney. Saying it does something better than Shenmue is grasping at straws. In LA Noire, you solve cases. In Shenmue, you get clues to continue the story. These games have completely different goals. At that point, you may as well compare GTAV to SRIV because they feature the ability to drive cars, despite being totally different games with completely different goals with very little in the way of similarities.

What I'm looking at is a very linear, game-like experience. Which isn't an improvement on Shenmue.

lol shenmue

more like shitpoo

Well that's redundant

(Just like Shenmue 2)

Please stop sucking Oscar's cock and commenting on things you have never experienced.

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« Reply #71 on: April 22, 2014, 11:58:19 AM »
Eh, I liked it a lot due to me enjoying Noire in general, the gameplay wasn't bad and people seemed to be expecting GTA in old LA with better motion capture. Seeing as I remember Shenmue having a lot of ask questions, get answers type adventure game gameplay I would see how some elements fit in comparison. So yeah, if LA Noire isn't a good game while doing somethings Shenmue did but better, then where does that leave Shenmue?

Exactly my point.

The parts of it which worked were the in-game cinematics, driving, and shooting. So... yeah, the GTA-like parts. The portion of gameplay which didn't work were the investigations and interrogations.

The former manages to try to be a point-and-click adventure, but due to layered middleware making fine character movement a chore, players experience distress just navigating to the point of interest instead of being able to tap-to-interact during the clue's brief "here I am!" vibration. Doubly pointless because the clue has an examination cutscene which could be used immediately, alleviating player stress.

The latter is an even greater offense, as the great technological leap of LA Noire was the 3D facial mo-cap, but here's the main place it would have been useful, and we're viewing from a fixed camera. Moreover, there is no consistency with the player's interactive choices, due to a late-development change in gameplay, but needing to work with the existing performances.
http://www.significant-bits.com/l-a-noires-interrogation-system

Anyway, yeah, I'm still bitter. I love crime fiction, I love GTA and open world games, and I was so excited about this game. It's utter rubbish to me though.

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« Reply #72 on: April 22, 2014, 12:20:59 PM »
Persona 3 and 4 pulled off the "boring" mundane aspects of life better than Shenmue. Making friends, studying for finals, getting a job, making time in your schedule to go to soccer practice, etc.
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« Reply #73 on: April 22, 2014, 12:39:14 PM »
I disagree because those are normally just five second cut scenes. When you "study" you as a player are nor actually studying. You decide to study, and you get a cut scene of you studying that's three seconds long and then get an Intelligence Up message. In Shenmue, you actually do it. When you go to work in Persona 4, you don't actually work. You watch the mc washing windows and shit. In Shenmue, you actually use a forklift every day from 8 - 5. You have a quota you need to hit every day. In Shenmue II, you actually lift crates for money. When you search for the final Wide, you actually wipe soot off the walls. That is the difference between Shenmue (actually doing it and taking advantage of the interactivity of the game medium) and everything else (watching a cut scene.)

Persona 3/4 are passive in their mundane interactions. They're just things to pass the time while you're not dungeon crawling, not a core part of the experience. Whereas Shenmue forces you to catch leaves falling to the ground to calm you like you're in a kung fu movie, any other game would have you watch it as a cut scene rather than actually doing it.
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« Reply #74 on: April 22, 2014, 01:15:41 PM »
NO GAME BUILT OFF SHENMUE BECAUSE NO GAME DID IT EXACTLY LIKE SHENMUE THEREFORE IT DOESN'T COUNT SORRY NOT SORRY
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« Reply #75 on: April 23, 2014, 02:10:06 PM »
SOA is still one of my fave JRPG's ever simply because exploration was at the heart of the game and we had a lead character who wanted to explore the world with a smile on his face and adventure in his heart. Not mope around and be all gothy.

Blue skies and ship battles.Curse Sega for not doing a sequel.

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Re: omg da SKIES OF ARCADIA remix!
« Reply #76 on: April 23, 2014, 04:14:05 PM »
I disagree because those are normally just five second cut scenes. When you "study" you as a player are nor actually studying. You decide to study, and you get a cut scene of you studying that's three seconds long and then get an Intelligence Up message. In Shenmue, you actually do it. When you go to work in Persona 4, you don't actually work. You watch the mc washing windows and shit. In Shenmue, you actually use a forklift every day from 8 - 5. You have a quota you need to hit every day. In Shenmue II, you actually lift crates for money. When you search for the final Wide, you actually wipe soot off the walls. That is the difference between Shenmue (actually doing it and taking advantage of the interactivity of the game medium) and everything else (watching a cut scene.)

Persona 3/4 are passive in their mundane interactions. They're just things to pass the time while you're not dungeon crawling, not a core part of the experience. Whereas Shenmue forces you to catch leaves falling to the ground to calm you like you're in a kung fu movie, any other game would have you watch it as a cut scene rather than actually doing it.

That all sounds like an improvement over the banal day to day BS of Shenmue. :jawalrus
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« Reply #77 on: April 23, 2014, 04:17:29 PM »
SOA is still one of my fave JRPG's ever simply because exploration was at the heart of the game and we had a lead character who wanted to explore the world with a smile on his face and adventure in his heart. Not mope around and be all gothy.

Blue skies and ship battles.Curse Sega for not doing a sequel.

overworks apparently had a sequel in the works.


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« Reply #78 on: April 23, 2014, 04:31:07 PM »
SOA is still one of my fave JRPG's ever simply because exploration was at the heart of the game and we had a lead character who wanted to explore the world with a smile on his face and adventure in his heart. Not mope around and be all gothy.

Blue skies and ship battles.Curse Sega for not doing a sequel.

overworks apparently had a sequel in the works.

http://www.p4rgaming.com/sega-ceo-we-cant-make-a-skies-of-arcadia-sequel-because-wed-probably-let-you-down/

Quote from: Sega CEO Hajime Satomi
Unfortunately, there are currently no plans to release a sequel for Eternal Arcadia (Japanese name for Skies of Arcadia). To be honest, I’m not sure if we even deserve to be in the games business.

Even if we did release an Eternal Arcadia sequel, we can not ensure that the quality would be to your liking. The long-awaited sequel to NiGHTS was also met with negative reviews. How many more people can we afford to let down? I say, none.

Please do not get your hopes up for an Eternal Arcadia sequel. Just play the Valkyria of the Battlefield series as Vyse appears in it as a playable character. It may not be the same, but at least you will be playing a good game.

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« Reply #79 on: April 23, 2014, 05:09:27 PM »
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IGN: Are you working on a sequel to Eternal Arcadia and if you are, what platforms will the title be on?

Noriyoshi Ohba: We're considering a sequel to "Eternal Arcadia." Regarding which platform, we're still evaluating it.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2001/06/15/interview-with-team-overworks

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« Reply #80 on: April 23, 2014, 05:14:09 PM »
I'm trolling, check the site. :hitler

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« Reply #81 on: April 23, 2014, 05:36:51 PM »
that site only contain real gaming news, like this one

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Citing fears that Square Enix would ruin a remake of Final Fantasy VII, Yoshinori Kitase, the original director of the game, does not care what company works on the remake as long as Square Enix is not involved

Talking to interviewers in preparation for the release of Rise of Mana, Kitase was bombarded with questions unrelated to the game. These questions mostly revolved around a possible remake of Final Fantasy VII.

“Look, I would love for Square to work on a remake of Final Fantasy VII, but that is no longer an option,” reminisced Kitase, “To be honest, I can not picture an outcome where a remake of Final Fantasy VII will be better than the original as long as Square Enix is behind it. Have you played Lightning Returns? Even I thought that game would not receive good reviews and I produced it.”

Reporters were shocked that Kitase would be so blasé about disparaging the company that he worked for. Others were not so surprised.

“I pretty much have immunity,” remarked Kitase, “They can not fire the man who directed Final Fantasy VII. That is like firing Miyamoto from Nintendo. The last thing Square Enix needs is headlines about firing the guy who helped direct Chrono Trigger. People still remember that as a good game. Will people remember Rise of Mana as a good game? The answer is no in case you were wondering.”

He then elaborated on his thoughts about a potential Final Fantasy VII remake and who he would want to work on this treasured title.

“Anybody but Square Enix would be fine,” said Kitase, “Even bad developers would be acceptable because they would have respect for the franchise and rise to the occasion. Look around you. I am supposed to be promoting Rise of Mana right now. This is a free-to-play game on smartphone platforms that is supposed to be another landmark title in a franchise that is now even further ruined. However, I can not leave this company. Ito-san still needs a friend.”

Square Enix CEO Yosuke Matsuda has said that this is some of the most positive attention Square Enix has received in the last few days.
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Re: omg da SKIES OF ARCADIA remix!
« Reply #82 on: April 23, 2014, 07:51:53 PM »

I'm trolling, check the site. :hitler

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Santa's probably trolling too, what with his reply being a 13-year old interview.

Well he did say they had a sequel in the works and he was right, to a certain extent. I don't know how that's trolling, lol.

But this thread turned into a Shenmue wank-fest so I think we're all automatically being trolled by posting here. :-\
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« Reply #83 on: April 23, 2014, 08:34:59 PM »
Having a discussion on Shenmue is hardly a wank fest!
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« Reply #84 on: April 23, 2014, 08:41:26 PM »
Shenmue: less interesting than masturbation
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« Reply #85 on: April 23, 2014, 09:09:00 PM »
I dunno, I think you were doing enough wanking for the lot, Himu-chan.

Eh. I was the only one. It takes more than one to be a fest!
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« Reply #86 on: April 23, 2014, 09:34:38 PM »
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« Reply #87 on: April 23, 2014, 09:35:15 PM »
I dunno, I think you were doing enough wanking for the lot, Himu-chan.

Eh. I was the only one. It takes more than one to be a fest!

Not the way you do it when it comes to Shenmue!

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« Reply #88 on: April 23, 2014, 10:16:18 PM »
Wankosuka.
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« Reply #89 on: April 24, 2014, 01:57:02 PM »
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