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headwalk

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can an american explain this to me? is this how congress works?
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headwalk

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It's a corny attempt at combining battle rap and academic debate. It's horrible and incomprehensible and fails at being both.

I blame House of Konsciousness videos for starting this weird, strange new trend.

the second one doesn't even have any battle rap credentials though. it's just turbo autism.

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That kid in the first vid got a great afro. You go girl.
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benjipwns

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Is the number and style of Rubbermaid tubs a sign of debate class status?

can an american explain this to me? is this how congress works?
No, Congress consists of people reading out pre-written speeches to an empty room except for some long suffering interns/staff and then later everyone votes how they always were going to. It'd be awesome of it they did it this way. Especially when 80% of the Senators keel over.


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CDABXXX1 hour ago (edited)
 
Spreading is merely a tool that allows debaters to have both deeply in-depth and wide-breadth discussions in a short amount of time. If policy debate was merely a contest of who is the fastest reader/speaker, then it wouldn't be called "debate" at all in the first place. Policy debate is a contest of argumentation, involving analysis, philosophy, and logic. I'm sorry, but if you "feel like everything [you] said was demonstrated in this video", then it is obvious that you probably only merely watched a few minutes of this video, and only paid attention to the speed of argument delivery, rather than truly take the arguments discussed in this video into account. This is NOT just "rambling", and this IS discussion.
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matthew johnson1 month ago
 
This is Debate, my friend.This is how you get your evidence out. The faster the evidence is spread, the more you get out, and the more likely they are to not catch or forget some of the evidence. Its actually very easy to understand once youve done it yourself. like nathan said, as well, you develop an ear for it.
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Brandon Moore1 month ago
 
Kids be careful! Mr Anthony Clark is an accused child molestor and a teacher at OPRF special ed. He attempted to molest a teenage boy. If he threatens or touches you in any way seek help from a teacher or faculty member immediately! 
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Debbie Lee6 months agoin reply to Aman Prasad
 
At this level of debate professionality, or what you're wearing is of no concern to the debaters and or judges. It's all about the content and high level of critical thinking, information processing, and strategic decision making that matters here. Not "oh he's sitting on the floor" or "he's wearing shorts" At a certain point in the debate community it's more about content then what the debaters are wearing or whether or not someones sitting on the floor.
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MrRedwingfanfl1 year ago
 
It is policy debate, you go that fast to cover as many arguments as possible. You people are to ignorant to dig deeper than the surface
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Scott Phoenix3 seconds ago
 
You idiots in the comments don't have a fucking cue!! This is a type of modern debate. It's not because "who look, affirmative action is rewarding blacks for doing nothing" In fact they were slow, one of the girls was stopping and taking breaths. It's supposed to be fast with without stops. So fuck off you racists losers.
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IEnjoyBeingNaked2 minutes ago
 
Was that debate? I though those clips from the new Tyler Perry movie about becoming auctioneers. Unless they're auditioning for Jerry Springer, I don't see the purpose in yelling incoherent ebonics.

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sha-theed  Guest • 17 days ago
This article is a total mischaracterization of the most popular methodologies within the debate style they are talking about. They make it sound like you just rap and win. The argument is that traditional knowledge production hides certain things. Like one's relationship to the argument through position. Talking about personal experience is one way to remedy this. The argument is also that traditional debate hides certain intellectuals who may have interesting things to say but don't have PHDs. Reading poetry or playing hip hop is one way of admitting organic intellectuals to the debate space.

Their argument is not: play hip hop and win. The argument is traditional knowledge production hides certain things and the methodology of this "new debate(which is hardly new)" tries to unconceal them.
And in debate it is not about whether the argument is fact or not, it is about which team deploys their defense of their own arguments and attacks the opponents arguments in THAT round.

It is not the atlantic's fault, the debate community is esoteric and insular.
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sha-theed  Malcom Warner • 16 days ago
Your type of knowledge production would hide one's relationship to the argument. I'm not going to explain why that matters, because this comment board is clearly to stupid to get it.
Sha-theed? Hey, that's how my kid Shithead pronounces his name.

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thejimmy • 18 days ago
I'm not going to lie. I actually thought this was satire.

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What the fuck is this?
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headwalk

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I have to admit, I'm kind of disillusioned. My high school didn't have a debate team, but I always imagined competitive debate being... you know, probably the way 99% of the population imagines competitive debate to work (and I always imagined that I would have been pretty fantastic at it if we had had a debate team).

This is... horseshit. It has about as much in common with traditional debate as 300 APM Starcraft has to do with military strategy.

Also, legend has it that Ted Cruz (of government shutdown fame) was pretty dominant at competitive debate. Is this what he did? I would love to see video of Ted Cruz spazzing out like these fucks.

i imagine when teddy was doing his thing, black sabbath was just about the heaviest band around. things escalate.

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I eagerly await the inevitable film adaption of this by Tyler Perry. I'm imagining a scene where a black contestant recites each digit of pi while break dancing, with 99 Problems playing in the background and multiple reaction shots of exasperated whites.
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What's with all the plastic boxes? and is the first video a read fast and loud competition? no wonder a fat black girl won it :hitler
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What's with all the plastic boxes? and is the first video a read fast and loud competition? no wonder a fat black girl won it :hitler

They fit a painstaking amount of research in there, only to vomit it at a high velocity over the course of 8 minutes.

they must maintain their hamon energy

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